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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by NGpatriot: 3:07am On Mar 25, 2020
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Xisnin:



Stick to what you know!

Fashola is a medical illiterate.

Sanitizers are not only antibacterial.
As general advice for your health, just because something is written on the body(that is not how drugs are prescribed)
it doesn't mean it is good for you.

The information on packages are for ignorant laymen and not for experts and
many sanitizers do not mention bacteria on their body(since that is what you are fixated on).
Most that do mention germs which is a non-technical term encompassing virus, bacteria, fungi and
other disease-causing agents.


Do you even know what a virus is?


When your basics are wrong all your listed points are wrong. This isn't politics where opinion reins.
This is science.

BTW, did they write on the body of the soap and water you use that it kills virus?
Why would you use soap and water when it is not written on the body? grin grin grin
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The only illiterate I see here is you.

They are antibacterial regardless of whatever else they use them for. PERIOD.

Can you show us a bottle of sanitizer that says antiVirus?

This is why olodo people fail WAEC, they ask them if it's antibacterial or not and they answer back that you can also use it for this and that?

Where is the sense in acting as if you know more than the manufacturers that put antibacterial on the bottle instead of antivirus?

Your issue just moved from illiteracy to rettardation.

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by Xisnin(m): 3:19am On Mar 25, 2020
NGpatriot:
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The only illiterate I see here is you.

They are antibacterial regardless of whatever else they use them for. PERIOD.

Can you show us a bottle of sanitizer that says antiVirus?

This is why olodo people fail WAEC, they ask them if it's antibacterial or not and they answer back that you can also use it for this and that?

Where is the sense in acting as if you know more than the manufacturers that put antibacterial on the bottle instead of antivirus?

Your issue just moved from illiteracy to rettardation.







What a stark illiterate grin
He uploaded a photo of hand sanitizer killing "germs" but he is still arguing blindly.
You are a danger to yourself and those around you.


Copy and paste more text that you don't understand.

You will soon win the Darwin award grin
Just ask Kyari how far.

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by NGpatriot: 3:42am On Mar 25, 2020
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Xisnin:


What a stark illiterate
He uploaded a photo of hand sanitizer killing "germs" but he is still arguing blindly.
You are a danger to yourself and those around you.


Copy and paste more text that you don't understand.

You will soon win the Darwin award
Just ask Kyari how far.
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Hand sanitizers are antibacterial regardless of whatever else they use them for.

Is there not a reason why you can not show us any sanitizer that says anti-virus? grin

Illiterate, your elementary and basement mentality is getting more and more embarrassing and totally boring.

Whats kyari got to do with the topic?

Now I see you are just another illiterate ipob shallow and empty head comedian. grin grin

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by bilulu(m): 4:24am On Mar 25, 2020
mikezuruki:


You didn’t understand the source you quoted. Fashola said rubbish.
Why wasting time replying someone who's brain is filled with coconut water?
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by sociologymajor: 5:49am On Mar 25, 2020
You probably misquoted or misunderstood what Fashola said.
From what I watched in the video, he said and I quote;
"When I came in here we were given Santizers at three different point, but it is a Bacterial sanitizer but we are dealing with a Virus".

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by OruExpress: 5:53am On Mar 25, 2020
mikezuruki:


What of China and other advanced countries that advised we use sanitizers?

arent they dying ?
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by LabDNA: 6:00am On Mar 25, 2020
Xisnin:
Fashola is 100% wrong.
He is a lawyer.
Don't listen to medical illiterates, listen to real experts or read medical and research literature.

Virus are far more fragile than bacteria.
Any solution(sanitizer or not) with 70% alcohol will destroy any kind of virus.
Lower concentration sanitizers will also destroy viruses if used in sufficient quantities.

Thank you very much, Fashola should concentrate on his legal turf and only give legal opinion not medical or scientific declarations..

The coronavirus is an enveloped virus, very susceptible to detergents and alcohol. It only becomes 'boss' when it invades the body system and develops into millions of progenies in the human cells.

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by Aphrygian(m): 6:03am On Mar 25, 2020
Xisnin:
Fashola is 100% wrong.
He is a lawyer.
Don't listen to medical illiterates, listen to real experts or read medical and research literature.

Virus are far more fragile than bacteria.
Any solution(sanitizer or not) with 70% alcohol will destroy any kind of virus.
Lower concentration sanitizers will also destroy viruses if used in sufficient quantities.
viruses are more fragile than bacteria,is this a joke? Something that exists at the submolecular lever, do you no some can exist as particles for years?https://www.oie.int/doc/ged/d8191.pdf

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by DagobertoEli: 6:59am On Mar 25, 2020
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NGpatriot:



The only illiterate I see here is you.

They are antibacterial regardless of whatever else they use them for. PERIOD.

Can you show us a bottle of sanitizer that says antiVirus?

This is why olodo people fail WAEC, they ask them if it's antibacterial or not and they answer back that you can also use it for this and that?

Where is the sense in acting as if you know more than the manufacturers that put antibacterial on the bottle instead of antivirus?

Your issue just moved from illiteracy to rettardation.






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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by IlovePMB: 7:02am On Mar 25, 2020
mikezuruki:
I saw a clip where Fashola said we are trying to prevent the spread of a Virus and not bacteria hence we don’t need hand sanitizers because it is used for bacteria.

This I not only find unintelligent but a high level ignorance was displayed. He did think about ways one can contract it before making such shameful statement.

But if I’m wrong and he’s right, I stand to be corrected.

Cheers


NGpatriot:


1. Sanitizers are antibacterial, not an antivirus, Fashola was 100% CORRECT and there's not a single sanitizer out here that says antivirus sanitizer because they are antibacterial regardless of what other things you use it for.

2. Regardless of access to soap and water or not, it doesn't change the fact that hand washing is far superior and more effective than hand sanitizers..

3. Yes, hand sanitizers are provided as alternatives, but they are not effective, they give you nothing but a false sense of protection, this is why the CDC put out advisories to highlight the superior effect and effectiveness of handwashing over sanitizers.

4. Again, Fashola was 100% correct and the CDC agreed with him.


5. Fashola never said you should not use sanitizers, he only highlighted the fact that it's antibacterial, rightfully so, a perfect and correct statement. He also emphasized the importance and better effect of handwashing.

6. This is why my first post in this thread referenced poor comprehension on other people's part, they either did not watch the video or did but didn't comprehend.

I use sanitizers, but with the understanding that I'm not 100% protected and still must be careful and vigilant until I'm able to do proper handwashing with soap and water.

Instead of losing sleep over this issue, stick to what you believe in, stick to sanitizers and let other people stick to handwashing, it's your choice.

Btw, I'm not a lawyer or a doctor, but I know a lot about this virus, about how to protect myself and what I need to do either per handwashing or sanitizer, this is common sense and you don't have to be a lawyer or doctor to know all that.




What can I do to protect myself and prevent the spread of disease?

Protection measures for everyone
Stay aware of the latest information on the COVID-19 outbreak, available on the WHO website and through your national and local public health authority. Many countries around the world have seen cases of COVID-19 and several have seen outbreaks. Authorities in China and some other countries have succeeded in slowing or stopping their outbreaks. However, the situation is unpredictable so check regularly for the latest news.

You can reduce your chances of being infected or spreading COVID-19 by taking some simple precautions:

Regularly and thoroughly clean your hands with an alcohol-based hand rub or wash them with soap and water.
Why? Washing your hands with soap and water or using alcohol-based hand rub kills viruses that may be on your hands.

Maintain at least 1 metre (3 feet) distance between yourself and anyone who is coughing or sneezing.
Why? When someone coughs or sneezes they spray small liquid droplets from their nose or mouth which may contain virus. If you are too close, you can breathe in the droplets, including the COVID-19 virus if the person coughing has the disease.
Avoid touching eyes, nose and mouth.
Why? Hands touch many surfaces and can pick up viruses. Once contaminated, hands can transfer the virus to your eyes, nose or mouth. From there, the virus can enter your body and can make you sick.
Make sure you, and the people around you, follow good respiratory hygiene. This means covering your mouth and nose with your bent elbow or tissue when you cough or sneeze. Then dispose of the used tissue immediately.
Why? Droplets spread virus. By following good respiratory hygiene you protect the people around you from viruses such as cold, flu and COVID-19.
Stay home if you feel unwell. If you have a fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical attention and call in advance. Follow the directions of your local health authority.
Why? National and local authorities will have the most up to date information on the situation in your area. Calling in advance will allow your health care provider to quickly direct you to the right health facility. This will also protect you and help prevent spread of viruses and other infections.
Keep up to date on the latest COVID-19 hotspots (cities or local areas where COVID-19 is spreading widely). If possible, avoid traveling to places – especially if you are an older person or have diabetes, heart or lung disease.
Why? You have a higher chance of catching COVID-19 in one of these areas.

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by DagobertoEli: 7:03am On Mar 25, 2020
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NGpatriot:



Hand sanitizers are antibacterial regardless of whatever else they use them for.

Is there not a reason why you can not show us any sanitizer that says anti-virus? grin

Illiterate, your elementary and basement mentality is getting more and more embarrassing and totally boring.

Whats kyari got to do with the topic?

Now I see you are just another illiterate ipob shallow and empty head comedian. grin grin





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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by horlahwaley(m): 7:12am On Mar 25, 2020
Hes right, Alcohol are effective against bacteria, which are a living thing outside the host but viruses are non living things outside the host. If you ate a microbiologist, you will understand better

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by StaffofOrayan(m): 7:45am On Mar 25, 2020
Dude!
You would make a patient teacher/educator
If that dude still continues to argue,
Please move on

NGpatriot:


1. Sanitizers are antibacterial, not an antivirus, Fashola was 100% CORRECT and there's not a single sanitizer out here that says antivirus sanitizer because they are antibacterial regardless of what other things you use it for.

2. Regardless of access to soap and water or not, it doesn't change the fact that hand washing is far superior and more effective than hand sanitizers..

3. Yes, hand sanitizers are provided as alternatives, but they are not effective, they give you nothing but a false sense of protection, this is why the CDC put out advisories to highlight the superior effect and effectiveness of handwashing over sanitizers.

4. Again, Fashola was 100% correct and the CDC agreed with him.


5. Fashola never said you should not use sanitizers, he only highlighted the fact that it's antibacterial, rightfully so, a perfect and correct statement. He also emphasized the importance and better effect of handwashing.

6. This is why my first post in this thread referenced poor comprehension on other people's part, they either did not watch the video or did but didn't comprehend.

I use sanitizers, but with the understanding that I'm not 100% protected and still must be careful and vigilant until I'm able to do proper handwashing with soap and water.

Instead of losing sleep over this issue, stick to what you believe in, stick to sanitizers and let other people stick to handwashing, it's your choice.

Btw, I'm not a lawyer or a doctor, but I know a lot about this virus, about how to protect myself and what I need to do either per handwashing or sanitizer, this is common sense and you don't have to be a lawyer or doctor to know all that.

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by Barryseal: 9:03am On Mar 25, 2020
I stopped taking Fashola seriously when he said there was nothing like renewable energy. The man has no buisness in the ministry he found himself. He should have been attorney General / minister of justice with his legal background.

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by Ojiofor: 9:23am On Mar 25, 2020
Fashola,the charge and bail lawyer and failed Energy minister wannabe medical expert.SMH.
Your advise is Quackery.
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by adedayoa2(f): 9:32am On Mar 25, 2020
mikezuruki:


What of China and other advanced countries that advised we use sanitizers?
they may be wrong.
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by Xisnin(m): 1:30pm On Mar 25, 2020
Aphrygian:
viruses are more fragile than bacteria,is this a joke? Something that exists at the submolecular lever, do you no some can exist as particles for years?https://www.oie.int/doc/ged/d8191.pdf
Yes, they are more fragile.

You didn't even read the link you posted as it deals exclusively with the fragile virus
and nothing on bacteria. No part of the summary supports your position.


You are obviously a layman, virus doesn't exist in submolecular level.
In fact, it is made up of many molecules.

Even your irrelevant argument is mute, an atom is more stable than an electron(a subatomic particle)
and a molecule more than an atom.

Check the meaning of molecules first before you use the word.

We have bacteria that can survive a nuclear winter and thrive in extreme conditions.

An average bacteria leave a virus in the dust for stability.

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by Aphrygian(m): 7:57am On Mar 26, 2020
Xisnin:

Yes, they are more fragile.

You didn't even read the link you posted as it deals exclusively with the fragile virus
and nothing on bacteria. No part of the summary supports your position.


You are obviously a layman, virus doesn't exist in submolecular level.
In fact, it is made up of many molecules.

Even your irrelevant argument is mute, an atom is more stable than an electron(a subatomic particle)
and a molecule more than an atom.

Check the meaning of molecules first before you use the word.

We have bacteria that can survive a nuclear winter and thrive in extreme conditions.

An average bacteria leave a virus in the dust for stability.
it was a mistake I meant sub-cellular and for your information I don't think you are good at logic cos if you are you would have known that someone that sent you a link to an academic journal is not a lay man as you infered up there. Now to the issue of fragility I guess what you are thinking is the 'effect of the action of sanitizers on them'?but that is wrong in all perspective because if you are a pathologist or epidemiology you will know that the term 'ruggedity' is 'persistency' in pathology. So do you want to tell me an organism that affects your protein synthesis,that copies your RNA and cellular DNA information,that is always mutating,that it is sure even though you've succeeded eradicating it newer strains will still be birthed later on, an organism that protects it's genetic code with a protein coat(the capsid) with a mere cellular organism that can be treated with an antibiotic?

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by 989900: 8:03am On Mar 26, 2020
NGpatriot:


1. Sanitizers are antibacterial, not an antivirus, Fashola was 100% CORRECT and there's not a single sanitizer out here that says antivirus sanitizer because they are antibacterial regardless of what other things you use it for.

2. Regardless of access to soap and water or not, it doesn't change the fact that hand washing is far superior and more effective than hand sanitizers..

3. Yes, hand sanitizers are provided as alternatives, but they are not effective, they give you nothing but a false sense of protection, this is why the CDC put out advisories to highlight the superior effect and effectiveness of handwashing over sanitizers.

4. [s]Again, Fashola was 100% correct and the CDC agreed with him.
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5. Fashola never said you should not use sanitizers, he only highlighted the fact that it's antibacterial, rightfully so, a perfect and correct statement. He also emphasized the importance and better effect of handwashing.

6. This is why my first post in this thread referenced poor comprehension on other people's part, they either did not watch the video or did but didn't comprehend.

I use sanitizers, but with the understanding that I'm not 100% protected and still must be careful and vigilant until I'm able to do proper handwashing with soap and water.

Instead of losing sleep over this issue, stick to what you believe in, stick to sanitizers and let other people stick to handwashing, it's your choice.

Btw, I'm not a lawyer or a doctor, but I know a lot about this virus, about how to protect myself and what I need to do either per handwashing or sanitizer, this is common sense and you don't have to be a lawyer or doctor to know all that.

Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by 6digitscomrade: 8:07am On Mar 26, 2020
mikezuruki:
I saw a clip where Fashola said we are trying to prevent the spread of a Virus and not bacteria hence we don’t need hand sanitizers because it is used for bacteria.

This I not only find unintelligent but a high level ignorance was displayed. He did think about ways one can contract it before making such shameful statement.

But if I’m wrong and he’s right, I stand to be corrected.

Cheers
obviously u passed through school school never went through you.. don’t ever deceive yourself in solitude that u weren’t a science student I’m vast because I gave education and knowledge a chance..
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by Nobody: 8:21am On Mar 26, 2020
6digitscomrade:
obviously u passed through school school never went through you.. don’t ever deceive yourself in solitude that u weren’t a science student I’m vast because I gave education and knowledge a chance..

Truth be told, you didn’t say anything.
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by 6digitscomrade: 8:24am On Mar 26, 2020
mikezuruki:


Truth be told, you didn’t say anything.
yes because I’m an old English man and we have a saying say nothing and keep saying it.. I didn’t expect an infant to understand me it wasn’t meant for feeble and cradle minds.. u can now go look for legos and build ur marvel characters.. let adults discuss..run along kiddo
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by 989900: 8:41am On Mar 26, 2020
Fashola is passing on a poor understanding of how stuffs work here.

1. Hand washing with soap (especially a microbial one) is still number 1.

2. All hand sanitizers are not mates.

3. 60% and above alcohol based 'antimicrobial' hand sanitizers is almost as good hand washing with soap.

4. Washing with Dettol is bae!

P.S. 95% Alcohol Methylated Spirit would rip apart most germs/microbes, novel Corona virus inclusive.
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by sweetsell: 8:47am On Mar 26, 2020
Even your own submission exposed that you are being foolish. I bet you are Igbo ?

Watch the Fashola clip n note what he said about the emboldened.


989900:
Fashola is passing on a poor understanding of how stuffs work here.

1. Hand washing with soap (especially a microbial one) is still number 1.

2. All hand sanitizers are not mates.

3. 60% and above alcohol based 'antimicrobial' hand sanitizers is almost as good hand washing with soap.

4. Washing with Dettol is bae!

P.S. 95% Alcohol Methylated Spirit would rip apart most germs/microbes, novel Corona virus inclusive.
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by 989900: 8:49am On Mar 26, 2020
sweetsell:
[s]Even your own submission exposed that you are being foolish. I bet you are Igbo ?

Watch the Fashola clip n note what he said about the emboldened. [/s]



Ode ni boboi sha!
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by Nobody: 8:49am On Mar 26, 2020
6digitscomrade:
yes because I’m an old English man and we have a saying say nothing and keep saying it.. I didn’t expect an infant to understand me it wasn’t meant for feeble and cradle minds.. u can now go look for legos and build ur marvel characters.. let adults discuss..run along kiddo

Lol
You should run along old man. I created the thread.
Mumu. I’m sure you know what it means
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by 6digitscomrade: 8:53am On Mar 26, 2020
mikezuruki:


Lol
You should run along old man. I created the thread.
Mumu. I’m sure you know what it means
that u are the young landlord of the thread and like everything u can mess on it .. no yawa I understand u
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by Nobody: 9:00am On Mar 26, 2020
6digitscomrade:
that u are the young landlord of the thread and like everything u can mess on it .. no yawa I understand u

I no Dey beef you Bro.
But next time, try correct someone instead of cheap insults.
No body Dey above making mistakes
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by GamalNasser: 9:04am On Mar 26, 2020
NGpatriot:




Nigerians and poor comprehension skills, he was right because sanitizers are not all that effective, hence his views that hand washing is far more effective than sanitizers, that was the context and the point he was trying to make, wash your hands instead of depending on sanitizers as if it's the magic bullet.


Wash your dirty hands.



Stop trying to spin this when you know Fashola explicitly said " Sanitizers don't kill Virus they they only kill bacteria" and not this spin you are trying to push . Fashola has always been shallow and that's why despite a budget of 35 billlions naira he couldn't complete a mere 35km Lekki Epe road after 8 years even with pre -tolling of the road and that's what he ended up being Nigerias worst power minister ever without a single improvement to the power sector under his watch other than tarriff increase
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by 6digitscomrade: 9:04am On Mar 26, 2020
mikezuruki:


I no Dey beef you Bro.
But next time, try correct someone instead of cheap insults.
No body Dey above making mistakes
ok I hear u naaa nor vex I retract and apologise for every..

Shalom

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Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by EagleNest(m): 9:10am On Mar 26, 2020
People are dying. Why waste energy debating on sanitizers. Soon nobody will really care. And any sanitizer for that matter can't be seen on shelves of supermarkets.
Re: Is Fashola Right To Say We Only Need Sanitizers For Bacteria And Not Viruses? by 989900: 9:23am On Mar 26, 2020
NGpatriot:
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The only illiterate I see here is you.

They are antibacterial regardless of whatever else they use them for. PERIOD.

Can you show us a bottle of sanitizer that says antiVirus?

This is why olodo people fail WAEC, they ask them if it's antibacterial or not and they answer back that you can also use it for this and that?

Where is the sense in acting as if you know more than the manufacturers that put antibacterial on the bottle instead of antivirus?

Your issue just moved from illiteracy to rettardation.







Oga calm down, there are a million and one antimicrobial/germs killing hand sanitizers out there!

Most 60% and above alcohol content hand sanitizers would do the job against most viruses Corona inclusive.

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