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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 6:40pm On Apr 24, 2020
nuelyoyo:
since everything you said here is legitimate and is within the laws that set up the universities, why can't the lecturers cite them to defend themselves. Since it's their official leave they used, why can't they provide thier BVN and earn thier 'legitimate' salaries. The lecturers never talk wetin dey hungry dem.

Good question. The refusal for submitting the BVN is because it's linked to the IPPIS which the union have rejected. The union rejected it because it doesn't not capture the peculiarities of the university system.Also, Accountant general asked University bursar's to bring the account details of staff not paid, so what stops them from paying. My question is if IPPIS restructured their platform to capture the peculiarities for doctors, why are they refusing to do same for University lecturers?. The goal is to kill public University system
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by tony5(m): 6:40pm On Apr 24, 2020
I'm Looking Forward To A Reduction In Our Legislative Arms Salaries, At Least, That Will Save Us From Spending Wastefully And Divert That To Our Economic Growth
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Emenime: 6:51pm On Apr 24, 2020
Why asking for their bvn when you have their account numbers already. Forward these this account to the respective banks and ask the banks to forward their bvn.

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Basher8583: 6:51pm On Apr 24, 2020
ejibaba:


Exactly the point... Government has it why ask them to submit? Pally, they are not ready to pay...The so called multiple salaries are sabbaticals and adjunct positions, which is normal within the university system globally...why is it a problem in Nigeria...Excess workload is for teaching more than 30 students and that's in your school not other schools

If you are my staff and I asked you to provide your BVN and you refuse. I will simply give you the option to provide or resign. Its not a must to work in cumpulsion. The lecturers should either provide or resign rather than go back and forth on this issue.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by omonnakoda: 6:59pm On Apr 24, 2020
That is in a country where there are no laws
It is to protect themselves from such capriciousness that workers join unions

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 7:03pm On Apr 24, 2020
Basher8583:


If you are my staff and I asked you to provide your BVN and you refuse. I will simply give you the option to provide or resign. Its not a must to work in cumpulsion. The lecturers should either provide or resign rather than go back and forth on this issue.

That's why they are not your staff and you can never have them as your staff.

The current staff loyalty is to the people not government....poor institutional framework knowledge is what makes people think like this.... Government comes and go but public servant remains and they are not loyal to politicians

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Peppermintflav: 7:06pm On Apr 24, 2020
ejibaba:


It is actually a standard globally sir!

How about Doctors? IPPIS designed a suitable template for them but refuse to do same for academics cos they feel they are of no value in a country where knowledge is not valued.
What you are saying in essence is that as a lecturer it is right to be drawing full salary from 2-3 federal universities.? Straight from federal purse?
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by oluwaseunla(m): 7:18pm On Apr 24, 2020
Peppermintflav:

What you are saying in essence is that as a lecturer it is right to be drawing full salary from 2-3 federal universities.? Straight from federal purse?

Only if you are an adjunct, sabbatical, or on contract. Those three are perfectly legal not only in Nigeria, but worldwide.

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Weeliweeli(m): 7:18pm On Apr 24, 2020
ejibaba:


Exactly the point... Government has it why ask them to submit? Pally, they are not ready to pay...The so called multiple salaries are sabbaticals and adjunct positions, which is normal within the university system globally...why is it a problem in Nigeria...Excess workload is for teaching more than 30 students and that's in your school not other schools
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 7:20pm On Apr 24, 2020
rexlims:
very lame excuse from FG.
my reasons are;
1. is it that before now these lecturers receive their stipends by hand?
2. is FG saying that these lectures teaching in other schools use different names and Ids?


Seek facts before criticizing the federal government. FG reserves the right to regularize the payment structure of its staff.

Before now, the universities send their bill to the FG and FG pays, now FG says we'll make the payments ourselves, what's wrong with that?

By asking for their BVN, are they required to bend backwards? It's your type that opposed the introduction of BVN in the first place.

I don't think any sane person would criticize FG's move except you're a beneficiary of the fraud and obviously have something to hide.


At the bolded, do you know what BVN is? Seems you have problems with discernment
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by OGHENAOGIE(m): 7:21pm On Apr 24, 2020
kikero:
The reason why lecturers have multiple jobs is simple...Nigeria does not have enough lecturers.

Indeed, the NUC issued a report in 2012 that pointed this problem of lecturer shortages out. And 8 years later, it is still a big problem

As a result, lecturers have jobs in 2 or 3 universities, because if they did not, many of those universities, mostly private, would lose their accreditation immediately. And with the number of people writing and passing JAMB far higher than the number of available spaces for them in university, that is a disaster waiting to happen.

Also, there is something called 'sabbatical' where lectures go and do some academic work elsewhere in another university, using facilities that their uni might not have. If government cuts that off because they want to stop waste...what would happen next.

Yes, let us get this IPPIS thing on the ground...but let the Educaiton ministry be realistic....otherwise, we may end up with universities lacking lecturers.
stop this rubbish talk I have bsc, some of my class mate get MSc we can fit in as a academic why should one man collect salary 4 people should collect... dem born them with books ni

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 7:23pm On Apr 24, 2020
Peppermintflav:

What you are saying in essence is that as a lecturer it is right to be drawing full salary from 2-3 federal universities.? Straight from federal purse?

1. It is not full salary sir. 2. It's not more than 2 University (first is parent University & the other is adjunct or sabbatical) interestingly most senior academias prefer private universities so this argument of 2-3 Universities is just a gimmick
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by shiwex: 7:27pm On Apr 24, 2020
Nothing wrong with having two jobs as long as appropriate tax is paid to the government. in developed countries a lot of people have two jobs, the only thing is you pay a higher tax on the second job to the government.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by OGHENAOGIE(m): 7:27pm On Apr 24, 2020
Fkj202004:
I have read so many comments here that lecturers have something that they are hiding. Well, they are trying only to safeguard their source of income in which the FG wants to take away.

Let me point to you that it is simply not wrong for any lecturer to lecture in more than one university. It is because there are no much lecturers in federal or even state universities; that is why you see one lecturer handling almost 4000 students which is not supposed to be so. So the few that is available tries to go to other schools to lecture as visiting-lecturer and even part time, and so they must be paid.

Now FG is trying every possible way to cut that off.

Who are they deceiving?

Mind you am not a lecturer not to talk of been an ASUU member.

let any school getting a visiting lecturer pay from their internal generated funds... we have intelligent guys who can do these Jobs most times recruitment are Done without the public knowing its man know man...

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by intruder15(m): 7:28pm On Apr 24, 2020
ejibaba:


They are not complaining of excess workload from other schools stop this crap. It's well... you guys are paid 30k to run down other people's life...keep it up...

This is not an issue of excess workload...it's about a policy that will affect the university system...how much do you think University lecturers earn?? How much?? That will warrant unnecessary frustration from government...

A school in UK and even SA will employ a supervisor for you for the 2 or more years period of your thesis and dissertation. There is
exchange program and a host of other programs that allows a lecturer learn salary from her school and other schools that their services are rendered temporarily.

Don't join this government destroy the public universities because the government will come and go but Nigeria will remain and when your children complain of the terrible state of our Universities be so sure you will be bold to tell them you collected 30k to through social media destroy the university system.

I don't get your write up. The government asked the lecturers to submit their BVN to aid link their payments. What's the big deal in that?
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 7:28pm On Apr 24, 2020
kikero:
The reason why lecturers have multiple jobs is simple...Nigeria does not have enough lecturers.

Indeed, the NUC issued a report in 2012 that pointed this problem of lecturer shortages out. And 8 years later, it is still a big problem

As a result, lecturers have jobs in 2 or 3 universities, because if they did not, many of those universities, mostly private, would lose their accreditation immediately. And with the number of people writing and passing JAMB far higher than the number of available spaces for them in university, that is a disaster waiting to happen.

Also, there is something called 'sabbatical' where lectures go and do some academic work elsewhere in another university, using facilities that their uni might not have. If government cuts that off because they want to stop waste...what would happen next.

Yes, let us get this IPPIS thing on the ground...but let the Educaiton ministry be realistic....otherwise, we may end up with universities lacking lecturers.



Stop this crap. Most schools no longer employ the best graduates because the wage bill is already too high. In actual sense, they've messed up the system by adding fictitious names to the payroll and allocated fake overtime claims.

Federal universities after cleansing via IPPIS, would be able to employ as many lecturers as they currently have, which would greatly reduce unemployment. Think for a while, stop this knee jerk reaction by believing that FG is always wrong.

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by OGHENAOGIE(m): 7:31pm On Apr 24, 2020
omonnakoda:

Federal government DID NOT EMPLOY ANY LECTURERS

Lecturers are not government employees by law.

Try and comprehend that before replying.
Universities are autonomous LEGAL PERSONS under the Universities Autonomy Act 2003.

If Unilag owes you money you cannot sue the government and vice versa
since they are autonomous let them pay themselves na stop disturbing us...

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by OGHENAOGIE(m): 7:34pm On Apr 24, 2020
otokx:
The government official is not being truthful, in this corona period, most of the medical experts practice in the teaching hospital and lecture in the university.

Scenario A
For instance Professor A is paid an Honorarium by LUTH where he does research and practices he drops his BVN there

Scenario B
Professor A is also a lecturer in UNILAG where he lectures and does research in the college of medicine and you have with held his salary for months and is now asking for BVN.

Let us assume he now gives his BVN to the VC of UNILAG, how will the government reconcile this scenario?

That is just a tip of the ice berg that ASUU is fighting against.
luth should decide how to pay them from their internal money period...
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 7:34pm On Apr 24, 2020
intruder15:


I don't get your write up. The government asked the lecturers to submit their BVN to aid link their payments. What's the big deal in that?

So much big deal. First, they are asking they fill a form not just submit BVN. The form is the same reason they denied them their salaries because ASUU have rejected enrollment in IPPIS...Academic staff is saying capture our peculiarities in the system like they did for Doctors, that also consult for other hospitals...is that a big deal too?
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by DavidEsq(m): 7:35pm On Apr 24, 2020
Nukilia:
Lecturers don suffer! grin grin

Quota system folks are teaching them common sense
She dem help rig election na. Dem never see fire. Foolish illiterates, masquerading as educationists.

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by OGHENAOGIE(m): 7:35pm On Apr 24, 2020
olmoRoc:
Lecturers all over the world have multiple jobs, and some even have jobs in multiple countries. This is the kind of accusation you get from a government populated by illiterates and dropouts.
you are the illiterate here... let school use their internal money to pay visiting lecturer simple...

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 7:39pm On Apr 24, 2020
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ejibaba:


They are not complaining of excess workload from other schools stop this crap. It's well... you guys are paid 30k to run down other people's life...keep it up...

This is not an issue of excess workload...it's about a policy that will affect the university system...how much do you think University lecturers earn?? How much?? That will warrant unnecessary frustration from government...

A school in UK and even SA will employ a supervisor for you for the 2 or more years period of your thesis and dissertation. There is
exchange program and a host of other programs that allows a lecturer learn salary from her school and other schools that their services are rendered temporarily.

Don't join this government destroy the public universities because the government will come and go but Nigeria will remain and when your children complain of the terrible state of our Universities be so sure you will be bold to tell them you collected 30k to through social media destroy the university system.
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You're not making sense. Destroy the system in what way? What's all this fuss about if they don't have things to hide? Can you provide proof that the poster gets 30k for his opinion?
It's downright dirty to say this because his opinion differs from yours. Be civil
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Caleb17: 7:39pm On Apr 24, 2020
While others have non?.. clap for yourself!
nairavsdollars:
Whats wrong in lecturers having multiple jobs? As long as they are not ghost workers
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by asanwafo: 7:40pm On Apr 24, 2020
maklelemakukula:
Useless government!! How much are you paying them that you don't want them to do multiple jobs.
How will they use the peanuts you pay them to cater for themselves and their families?
The same IPPIS that made this criminal government refuse to pay LUTH resident doctors since November 2019 is what this idiotic government is talking about.

Pay them their money retarrded government of Nigeria.
If you have plans for your life and no connection in this useless country better leave Nigeria and travel out. Failed system!
As if u are not one of those who are spoiling the country.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 7:47pm On Apr 24, 2020
Jaeis:
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You're not making sense. Destroy the system in what way? What's all this fuss about if they don't have things to hide? Can you provide proof that the poster gets 30k for his opinion?
It's downright dirty to say this because his opinion differs from yours. Be civil

Destroying the system through introducing a policy that will affect the functionality of the university system. Interestingly sir, are you aware that the payment system of the university staff used to Central through NUC but owing to the failure of that system, ASUU protested and the government changed it. So why take us back to a central system of finances?? Why?? A policy that has failed to capture the peculiarities of the academic job. This is what I mean by they want to destroy the academic system.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by intruder15(m): 8:04pm On Apr 24, 2020
ejibaba:


So much big deal. First, they are asking they fill a form not just submit BVN. The form is the same reason they denied them their salaries because ASUU have rejected enrollment in IPPIS...Academic staff is saying capture our peculiarities in the system like they did for Doctors, that also consult for other hospitals...is that a big deal too?

I get now. Well, they should resolve their differences and submit their BVN. I see no reason why anybody on government payroll should be paid without BVN linked to the payment.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by jolyment: 8:14pm On Apr 24, 2020
leosahm:




i'm in unical.....and why are u asking


Just wanna know which school the sorting is going on.
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:15pm On Apr 24, 2020
they should submit their bvn nah?

NASU don submit there own since last year.



ASUU will be making a mountain out of a molehill.

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Tobimillar1(m): 8:17pm On Apr 24, 2020
ejibaba:


They are not complaining of excess workload from other schools stop this crap. It's well... you guys are paid 30k to run down other people's life...keep it up...

This is not an issue of excess workload...it's about a policy that will affect the university system...how much do you think University lecturers earn?? How much?? That will warrant unnecessary frustration from government...

A school in UK and even SA will employ a supervisor for you for the 2 or more years period of your thesis and dissertation. There is
exchange program and a host of other programs that allows a lecturer learn salary from her school and other schools that their services are rendered temporarily.

Don't join this government destroy the public universities because the government will come and go but Nigeria will remain and when your children complain of the terrible state of our Universities be so sure you will be bold to tell them you collected 30k to through social media destroy the university system.
What’s the school fees in those schools in uk and South Africa? In those schools in uk, do MOST of the lecture collect money or try to sleep with our daughters to pass them ?

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Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by kunletexs: 8:19pm On Apr 24, 2020
Nwodosis:
They should look at the Medical Consultants having private hospitals and also working in government hospitals!

you are right! that has seriously affected the public hospital making it more a shadow of itself
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by Nobody: 8:20pm On Apr 24, 2020
intruder15:


I get now. Well, they should resolve their differences and submit their BVN. I see no reason why anybody on government payroll should be paid without BVN linked to the payment.


BVN is not a big deal. The government can get if they wish
Re: ASUU Salaries: Use Of BVN Will Expose Lecturers With Multiple Jobs – FG by leosahm(m): 8:22pm On Apr 24, 2020
jolyment:



Just wanna know which school the sorting is going on.



u have a low act rate.... How do i explain unical 4 u, should i draw it 4 u

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