Lyoncrescent:
Him, Emmanuel Omotunde Omoniyi and Daniel Orekoya were mightily used by God. The issue I have with some of his followers is the extent they now practice idolatry using babalola. Some even hold crusades at his tomb. Some put his posters on their cars for protection. All sorts , Jesus is the only way; Jesus is our teacher. Babalola are like class representative or class captains in schools, they too will write exam and be judged so we shouldn't encourage idolatry

Galactico4ever:
okay thanks for the info but am only interested in my own church

seunayantokun:


Does Babalola have followers today? I don't think so. Even those who went around with him during his lifetime were not his followers but Christ's - he might have brought them to Christ and trained them for ministry just as some may have been blessed through him. All true Christians are followers of Jesus Christ.

For those who have made him a god or idol, it is their personal decision.Praying to him, holding crusades at his tomb and using his posters for protection are manifestations of the spirit of error. You may have to get closer to them to find out what their problem is. CAC as a church and its leaders do not see him as a god or an idol to be worshipped; do your findings.

I wouldn't have problems with people who have his pictures all around them as a form of love they have for him because his ministry was/is a blessing to them; as a souvenir; or as a form of identification with the church and its unity. Once it doesn't go beyond that, I think it's okay.

Babalola, as one of the founders of CAC, was the church's first general evangelist, not even the president of the church at any time. However, there is no doubt that God granted him exceeding grace. The Lord Jesus passed a lot of blessings to humanity through him; some of them were encapsulated in covenants which are supported by the Bible. When some CAC members say God of 'Ayo Babalola', they know what they mean. Is anything wrong in calling God the way you have experienced Him? Jacob called Him 'God of my father'; He identified Himself to Moses and the children of Israel as ' the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob'. If your biological father has a blessed standing with Him, seeing Him as the God of your father is not an issue. Daniel called Him 'my God who I serve day and night'. If you serve Him and He approves your way with Him, He is also your God. Just like David called Him his God, He is my God! God has never stopped making covenants, based on the all-time ultimate covenant of the blood of Jesus Christ, with people. And He honours them. That is also why He is called 'the covenant-keeping God'. If makes a covenant with me - great one! - It doesn't benefit me alone, all my biological and spiritual children can login into the account and benefit from it provided they also keep their part of it which is normally obedience that fulfills the requirements of the Bible.

MyVILLAGEpeople:


Hmmm
I heard some of his exploits. Pls tell me more.

Lyoncrescent:


You have made a lot of valid points which I agree.however please visit this link on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIERvnXdEIg

It is a video by the new General Evangelist of CAC who succeeded Abiara. His name is Prophet Hezekiah and on his YouTube page, he wrote it there clearly that Revival on babalolas tomb at Efon Alaye.whats the role of adding babalolas tomb to the caption if not idolatry from the General Evangelist ? You can also check prophet Sam olu alos page on YouTube and see him doing several revivals at babalolas tomb as he captioned it; does babalolas tomb have more power to answer prayers or is it a " marketing gimmick" ?. Prophet Alo is closely affiliated with Prophet Hezekiah the general evangelist of CAC. These are senior figures in CAC . Can you confirm if that's idolatry or not ?

In your words you said :Praying to him, holding crusades at his tomb and using his posters for protection are manifestations of the spirit of error.

These actions are done by some senior CAC leaders. I understand what you mean by covenant and your explanation is detailed. However, I have gone to churches and if for example the name of the pastor of that local CAC church is sofowora, you hear people praying first with olorun babalola then with olorun sofowora. Sofowora may not have the genuine calling or covenant that babalola had, however some just follow the precedence without having a deep spiritual understanding of what they are doing . There has also been cases of people praying with Olorun Hezekiah who is the current evangelist and Olorun Abiara the previous evangelist. The funny thing is the current and previous general Evangelist just let it fly and don't correct people praying with their names . So it's not as if I don't understand your explanation but it's been abused and peopl are getting lost. I'm a Christian and I believe Jesus is the only way not doing revivals at a dead man's tomb however great the grace of God was on the man when he was alive .

I learnt a lot from your explanation nevertheless. That's the point of engaging in such conversation; to learn . Thanks

Nauttyprof:



So that I hold a Crusade at MKO Abiola Stadium does that mean I am praying to Abiola or I am exalting Abiola?

You need to go into the history of CAC to understand them better before you begin to criticise. There are several praying points for the CAC for personal prayers without any form of disturbance.

The two Prophets you mentioned have captioned several of their prayer programmes or crusade according to the area where it is held. Why did you just pin point one?

When God is to reveal Himself to the Israelites, He said I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. God used the people Israelites hold in high esteem to talk to them.

So, as long as prayers are directed to God and not any man then it has no form of idolatry in it except they worship man in place of God and call on man in place of God.

You will always hear of God of..... And not the name of the person while praying.

Lyoncrescent:


Okay. God said...

Please sir can you confirm if it's biblical to pray with God of Prophet Hezekiah the current CAC general evangelist and God of Abiara in the same context you referred to God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob ? Can you confirm if it happens that church members pray with Olorun Hezekiah and Olorun Abiara ?

I am not criticizing. We are shedding light to better know and worship God in spirit and truth . The truth is key.

About the mko abiola stadium comparison to naming revivals at babalolas tomb, I reserve my comment . However, how many other churches in the whole world do you know that do the revivals and label it with the tomb of their founders ? For example, Baba Adeboye doing revival at the area of Pa Akindayomis tomb ? Any similar examples we can draw from?

Nauttyprof:


Can you also answer this - Is it just at Babalola's tomb they hold prayers? If No, why are you just being selective in your argument?

Go and understand the history of CAC before you criticise.

Who created these people you just mentioned? Then tell me if God of..... is wrong?

Galactico4ever:
Southern part

Lyoncrescent:


You have made a lot of valid points which I agree.however please visit this link on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIERvnXdEIg

It is a video by the new General Evangelist of CAC who succeeded Abiara. His name is Prophet Hezekiah and on his YouTube page, he wrote it there clearly that Revival on babalolas tomb at Efon Alaye.whats the role of adding babalolas tomb to the caption if not idolatry from the General Evangelist ? You can also check prophet Sam olu alos page on YouTube and see him doing several revivals at babalolas tomb as he captioned it; does babalolas tomb have more power to answer prayers or is it a " marketing gimmick" ?. Prophet Alo is closely affiliated with Prophet Hezekiah the general evangelist of CAC. These are senior figures in CAC . Can you confirm if that's idolatry or not ?

In your words you said :Praying to him, holding crusades at his tomb and using his posters for protection are manifestations of the spirit of error.

These actions are done by some senior CAC leaders. I understand what you mean by covenant and your explanation is detailed. However, I have gone to churches and if for example the name of the pastor of that local CAC church is sofowora, you hear people praying first with olorun babalola then with olorun sofowora. Sofowora may not have the genuine calling or covenant that babalola had, however some just follow the precedence without having a deep spiritual understanding of what they are doing . There has also been cases of people praying with Olorun Hezekiah who is the current evangelist and Olorun Abiara the previous evangelist. The funny thing is the current and previous general Evangelist just let it fly and don't correct people praying with their names . So it's not as if I don't understand your explanation but it's been abused and peopl are getting lost. I'm a Christian and I believe Jesus is the only way not doing revivals at a dead man's tomb however great the grace of God was on the man when he was alive .

I learnt a lot from your explanation nevertheless. That's the point of engaging in such conversation; to learn . Thanks

Lyoncrescent:


Are you saying that CAC allowing all this people and water containers in the tomb of a dead man is biblical ? Praying at the tomb of babalola is biblical ? CAC is a great church and I know and recognise the great grace in the church but we need to correct wrong doings . We shouldn't say this is just a small wrong doing. We should condemn it . CAC members pray in churches and mountains which I have no problem with. But when Abiara dies or the late obadare, then another set will go to his tomb and be praying there ?

lalasticlala:
Joseph Ayo Babalola Turns 116 Today



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Ayo_Babalola

commodore007:
A man whose ministry has touched and impacted Generations,God has eternity to reward his servants,God bless you for helping the Body of Christ in your time...

RiyadhGoddess:
Waoooh Baba Rere. My number one Pastoral Mentor. I read about you and also listened to your daughter's interview about. A Great Prophet who brought Revival into the land. The candles you lit are still burning and shinning brightly. Sleep on Prophet of God till we meet at that beautiful river where the feet of angel thread which flows by the throne of God.

Nauttyprof:



Stick to what works for you and if possible make findings.

Were they praying to the Apostle or praying to God while using this as a connection?

Do you know that part in the Bible where Jesus addressed the resurrection of the dead and said I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He is not the God of the dead but of the living (Matthew 22:31-32)? So, what do you think of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob going by what Jesus said?

Idolatry comes when you worship any other god except the Almighty God (quoting the Bible)

Please, provide me an audio of the scene where they were worshipping him and bowing to him.

shola07:
one of the great revivalist...

rest on papa

RTSC:

He is the greatest.

There is no Pentecostal church in Nigeria that is not linked to him, if you trace it.

shola07:
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Jesus is the greatest, don't misused word