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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 12:07pm On Jun 18, 2020
ndoeyopbennet:


I guess you don't know what full funding means. You should google that.

Basically, he won't need to spend a dime of his money for as long as the funding is on.

N500,000 is enough to cover for flight expenses. If he has more than that, its all good. If not, he shouldn't seek any sponsor or borrow money. That's the point here.
my brother not to hear stories that touch. It’s better he has more .. you think with this covid-19 flight won’t cost more
So it’s better he has just way more

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Deltayankeeboi: 12:36pm On Jun 18, 2020
Frankrobbn1:


Well, it's true that fully funded applicants have upper edge to other prospective applicants with no funding. With that being said, this doesn't guarantee 100% that the visa will be approved as I have seen applicants with full funding been rejected and end up losing their scholarships. The scholarship beneficiary must present his/her application in a very satisfactory manner that will convince the visa officer that he/she is indeed a genuine applicant with adequate economic and professional ties back home that could motivate their departure after studies. I trust the op will make the most of the advices given and put his application in a better prospect of getting an approval.


All the best in his application.


It will end in praise


Hello, good to know that someone brought this issue of fully funded scholarship up.

In regards to what you said, do you mean a fresh graduate with very good undergraduate result(first class) that got a fully funded scholarship will be denied visa because he has no prior work or professional experience or home tie.

Like immediately after Nysc, then apply directly for masters in Canada on fully funded scholarship. No work experience whatsoever.

Also bro, fully funded scholarship are they professional courses specific?
Can someone who with first class in zoology(research area in environmental management, wildlife and biodiversity conservation, toxicology and climate change) likely get a fullyfunded scholarship due to the fact that such courses are not well appreciated in Nigeria.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by ndoeyopbennet: 12:50pm On Jun 18, 2020
Tonyodg:
my brother not to hear stories that touch. It’s better he has more .. you think with this covid-19 flight won’t cost more
So it’s better he has just way more


I agree that he should have as much money as possible but he doesn't need to go out of his way to borrow or get a sponsor. He will be fine as long as other things are in place.

I'm saying this as a Nigerian funded PhD student who has met more than 10 fully funded PhD or Masters students so far. They all got their permits without the need to borrow money or to look for sponsors.

I concede that you should have more money in your account if you can but we shouldn't allow those without money to panic. They'll be fine. Some funded applicants got approved with less than 100k in their personal accounts. I kid you not.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by ndoeyopbennet: 1:01pm On Jun 18, 2020
Deltayankeeboi:


Hello, good to know that someone brought this issue of fully funded scholarship up.

In regards to what you said, do you mean a fresh graduate with very good undergraduate result(first class) that got a fully funded scholarship will be denied visa because he has no prior work or professional experience or home tie.

Like immediately after Nysc, then apply directly for masters in Canada on fully funded scholarship. No work experience whatsoever.

Also bro, fully funded scholarship are they professional courses specific?
Can someone who with first class in zoology(research area in environmental management, wildlife and biodiversity conservation, toxicology and climate change) likely get a fullyfunded scholarship due to the fact that such courses are not well appreciated in Nigeria.

You don't need work experience to get a study permit. You only need to explain your prospects in terms of job opportunities and leadership or academic potentials.

Fully funded scholarships apply mainly to thesis based research. Masters by thesis and PhD. Not all Masters by thesis gets full funding though. You have to research and know if the department gives full funding. Full funding here means complete tuition and living expenses. Some departments offer partial funding for Masters. If you get such, you must show proof of funds for the extra costs.

PhD applicants usually get full funding (there are still notable exceptions too). PhD funding comes via fellowships, teaching assistantships, research assistantships, etc. In my case, I got a fellowship for four years. Fellowships are the best and they are guaranteed too. If you get a TA or RA, you work for the money and things can change at any time so you must have a backup plan too.

The courses you mentioned would have funding for thesis based programmes. The universities that typically offer the most funding at the Masters degree level in Canada are: University of Alberta, Simon Fraser University, McMaster University, Wilfred Laurier University, University of Western Ontario and University of Saskatchewan. At the PhD level, the list is even longer.

Note that thesis based programmes are extremely competitive. Even with a first class, you may not get in. You need a strong proposal/statement of program and sometimes the approval of a prospective supervisor. In my program, they admitted only 4 PhD students out of over 100 applicants. They took only 8 Masters by thesis applicants out of over 250 applicants. Get ready for that level of competition except your discipline generally has fewer applicants.

Frankrobbn1 should be able to say more on this too.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nyenyenwq(m): 1:05pm On Jun 18, 2020
Considering submitting extra documents as proof of funding for students already got full funding either from his or her supervisor's grant of scholarships, I don't think you need to submit a fat bank account. Someone I know didn't even bother submitting any bank statement, she only submitted the funding letters she got and she got approved. People are actually saying that you must submit your personal bank account to show you have no ey for flight and itinerary, mind you there are some that even the flight ticket, airport pickup and accommodation is already taken care of by your supervisor from the grant. Just do your best, pray and keep believing for the best outcome!... People from very poor background and who has nobody to even beg for money to supplement the little they have can't kill themselves over showing proof of funds when they already have full funding

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by ndoeyopbennet: 1:09pm On Jun 18, 2020
Nyenyenwq:
Considering submitting extra documents as proof of funding for students already got full funding either from his or her supervisor's grant of scholarships, I don't think you need to submit a fat bank account. Someone I know didn't even bother submitting any bank statement, she only submitted the funding letters she got and she got approved. People are actually saying that you must submit your personal bank account to show you have no ey for flight and itinerary, mind you there are some that even the flight ticket, airport pickup and accommodation is already taken care of by your supervisor from the grant. Just do your best, pray and keep believing for the best outcome!... People from very poor background and who has nobody to even beg for money to supplement the little they have can't kill themselves over showing proof of funds when they already have full funding


Thank you. This was the point I was making. If you have the money to fatten you account, please, by all means, do so. If you don't, you shouldn't worry. You'll be fine. As long as the funding is genuine and from within Canada, you'll get approved. Just focus on other things that can cause rejection such as home ties or prospects. You are always expected to convince the VO that you are a genuine student, with or without funding.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 1:11pm On Jun 18, 2020
ndoeyopbennet:


I agree that he should have as much money as possible but he doesn't need to go out of his way to borrow or get a sponsor. He will be fine as long as other things are in place.

I'm saying this as a Nigerian funded PhD student who has met more than 10 fully funded PhD or Masters students so far. They all got their permits without the need to borrow money or to look for sponsors.

I concede that you should have more money in your account if you can but we shouldn't allow those without money to panic. They'll be fine. Some funded applicants got approved with less than 100k in their personal accounts. I kid you not.
You have spoken well!!
It’s left for the applicant to make wise decisions.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nyenyenwq(m): 1:23pm On Jun 18, 2020
[i fall in that category of people that didn't really submit a fat bank statement cos I already got full funding from my supervisor via his grant plus extra full funded scholarship from my school for my PhD. Yes, I did my best and I pray for the best outcome. quote author=ndoeyopbennet post=90804531]


Thank you. This was the point I was making. If you have the money to fatten you account, please, by all means, do so. If you don't, you shouldn't worry. You'll be fine. As long as the funding is genuine and from within Canada, you'll get approved. Just focus on other things that can cause rejection such as home ties or prospects. You are always expected to convince the VO that you are a genuine student, with or without funding. [/quote]

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Ayanbiodun: 2:02pm On Jun 18, 2020
Hello
GCMS notes after refusal mention family ties in Canada, employment ties to country of residence, last level of education as core reasons.
Great minds kindly help with relevant suggestions.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Phatkayconcept: 2:39pm On Jun 18, 2020
Ayanbiodun:
Hello
GCMS notes after refusal mention family ties in Canada, employment ties to country of residence, last level of education as core reasons.
Great minds kindly help with relevant suggestions.

You should share your profile and documents submitted so that contributors can have comprehensive overview about your case
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Deltayankeeboi: 2:55pm On Jun 18, 2020
ndoeyopbennet:


You don't need work experience to get a study permit. You only need to explain your prospects in terms of job opportunities and leadership or academic potentials.

Fully funded scholarships apply mainly to thesis based research. Masters by thesis and PhD. Not all Masters by thesis gets full funding though. You have to research and know if the department gives full funding. Full funding here means complete tuition and living expenses. Some departments offer partial funding for Masters. If you get such, you must show proof of funds for the extra costs.

PhD applicants usually get full funding (there are still notable exceptions too). PhD funding comes via fellowships, teaching assistantships, research assistantships, etc. In my case, I got a fellowship for four years. Fellowships are the best and they are guaranteed too. If you get a TA or RA, you work for the money and things can change at any time so you must have a backup plan too.

The courses you mentioned would have funding for thesis based programmes. The universities that typically offer the most funding at the Masters degree level in Canada are: University of Alberta, Simon Fraser University, McMaster University, Wilfred Laurier University, University of Western Ontario and University of Saskatchewan. At the PhD level, the list is even longer.

Note that thesis based programmes are extremely competitive. Even with a first class, you may not get in. You need a strong proposal/statement of program and sometimes the approval of a prospective supervisor. In my program, they admitted only 4 PhD students out of over 100 applicants. They took only 8 Masters by thesis applicants out of over 250 applicants. Get ready for that level of competition except your discipline generally has fewer applicants.

Frankrobbn1 should be able to say more on this too.

Thanks.

In terms of technicality, Thesis based masters and normal course based masters, which is harder and more demanding? (permit me to use harder to qualify what I'm trying to say)

And also, can one get a fullyfunded scholarship on a normal course based masters(no thesis)

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Yads97: 3:18pm On Jun 18, 2020
Ayanbiodun:
Hello
GCMS notes after refusal mention family ties in Canada, employment ties to country of residence, last level of education as core reasons.
Great minds kindly help with relevant suggestions.

Do you have any family member in Canada?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by sarmamotors: 3:36pm On Jun 18, 2020
@Frankrobbn1 Thanks for the response Chief.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by jamesy212(m): 3:37pm On Jun 18, 2020
Frankrobbn1 please check your email. Thanks
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by sarmamotors: 3:37pm On Jun 18, 2020
@Yads97 Thanks for the response

I got this email twice even when I hadn’t put in application. I doubt it means anything towards your application.[/quote]
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by aamstih: 3:38pm On Jun 18, 2020
Hello guys,

Please, I need all the advice that I can get from the house. What are the chances of getting a visa when applying for a diploma course?

The school that I am considering is a Community College, I do have an SSCE and I am about 32 years -hope I am not giving out too much info?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by ndoeyopbennet: 4:00pm On Jun 18, 2020
Deltayankeeboi:


Thanks.

In terms of technicality, Thesis based masters and normal course based masters, which is harder and more demanding? (permit me to use harder to qualify what I'm trying to say)

And also, can one get a fullyfunded scholarship on a normal course based masters(no thesis)

They are the same in terms of course work and technicality but in the thesis option, you are expected to write an original research which will be examined by a supervisory committee.

Course based Masters are not usually funded via fellowships. Although you can get funded through TAships or RAships. However, the amount may not totally cover your tuition and/or living expenses.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Pimp04: 5:25pm On Jun 18, 2020
@frankrobbn1
How come some April/May online applicants got their application processed and have received final decision from IRCC and even some March/February online applicants are yet to receive final decision??
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by ayztech(f): 5:42pm On Jun 18, 2020
Good day sirs/mas,

please my sister is about filling the Canadian Study Permit form but has only the National Identity Slip, not the ID card itself.

Now the Study permit form requires the issue and expiry dates of the national ID to be filled but they do not appear on the slip.

I will very much appreciate an advice on the way forward please.

Thank you all
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by nochyks87: 6:32pm On Jun 18, 2020
ayztech:
Good day sirs/mas,

please my sister is about filling the Canadian Study Permit form but has only the National Identity Slip, not the ID card itself.

Now the Study permit form requires the issue and expiry dates of the national ID to be filled but they do not appear on the slip.

I will very much appreciate an advice on the way forward please.

Thank you all

It is not mandatory to provide a national ID, the most important document is her international passport which always has issue date and expiry date.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by JustMellow: 6:50pm On Jun 18, 2020
ndoeyopbennet:


Contrary to what Frankrobbn has said, I'll tell you to only make sure you have some money in your account. Even N500,000 will be enough. Don't go and borrow money or look for sponsors when you already have funding. Getting a sponsor will complicate your application and indicate desperation. Borrowing money will attract question marks as to the source of lump deposits and your rationale.

If you already have up to or more than N500,000 in your account then you're good to go. If not, get a family member, friend or close associate to gift you the money and then explain that in your SOP. The VOs already know that applicants with funding will definitely find a means of leaving Nigeria. They are more concerned with what happens when you reach Canada and your funding answers that concern.

I've seen people who applied for fully funded thesis Masters and PhDs with only N100,000 in their accounts and they were approved. Don't complicate your rather straightforward study permit application. Focus more on home ties and prospects.

Ignore what I've written if what you have is PARTIAL FUNDING.

Hello Ndoeyopbennet,

The bolded isn't true. The Letter of Support comes to mind for this category of sponsorship. With this letter coupled with the sponsor's BS, the necessary financial conviction is passed across to the VO's fond memory.

Will NGN 500k suffice in this case? Yes, it will but not an assured guarantee. Certain full-funded or scholarship applications has also been refused on the grounds of finance. It hurts not doing the needed whether using a sponsor or increasing the funds. Additionally, personal circumstances also makes each situation varies in scrutiny.

I for one has seen for my own eyes the use of sponsors by full-funded applicants and they didn't even break a sweat doing lots of convincing or including irrelevant documents to make a claim.

In this journey, the least expected is what actually becomes reality only if IRCC study application regulations are met. Being adept to some of these regulations may make use understand why using a sponsor in this kind of scenario won't make the application susceptible but more of a contributive advantage.

Stay blessed!

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by purleesh(f): 7:47pm On Jun 18, 2020
nochyks87:


It is not mandatory to provide a national ID, the most important document is her international passport which always has issue date and expiry date.

Thanksalot for your response sir but please what issue and expiry dates do you advise she fills in those spaces for the National ID in the permit form?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Pee2Jay9: 7:57pm On Jun 18, 2020
I'm thrilled by this write up so kindly enlighten me on what made your application stand out.. It seems getting this scholarship and supervisors is more difficult than getting a job in a Nigeria.. Many just read and ignore ur numerous emails.. What made yours exceptional apart from favour?

ndoeyopbennet:


You don't need work experience to get a study permit. You only need to explain your prospects in terms of job opportunities and leadership or academic potentials.

Fully funded scholarships apply mainly to thesis based research. Masters by thesis and PhD. Not all Masters by thesis gets full funding though. You have to research and know if the department gives full funding. Full funding here means complete tuition and living expenses. Some departments offer partial funding for Masters. If you get such, you must show proof of funds for the extra costs.

PhD applicants usually get full funding (there are still notable exceptions too). PhD funding comes via fellowships, teaching assistantships, research assistantships, etc. In my case, I got a fellowship for four years. Fellowships are the best and they are guaranteed too. If you get a TA or RA, you work for the money and things can change at any time so you must have a backup plan too.

The courses you mentioned would have funding for thesis based programmes. The universities that typically offer the most funding at the Masters degree level in Canada are: University of Alberta, Simon Fraser University, McMaster University, Wilfred Laurier University, University of Western Ontario and University of Saskatchewan. At the PhD level, the list is even longer.

Note that thesis based programmes are extremely competitive. Even with a first class, you may not get in. You need a strong proposal/statement of program and sometimes the approval of a prospective supervisor. In my program, they admitted only 4 PhD students out of over 100 applicants. They took only 8 Masters by thesis applicants out of over 250 applicants. Get ready for that level of competition except your discipline generally has fewer applicants.

Frankrobbn1 should be able to say more on this too.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Pee2Jay9: 8:04pm On Jun 18, 2020
U've not even given out any info and u're concerned about giving out too much info... You'll have to explain to the VO why you now want to study and what you've been doing so far

aamstih:
Hello guys,

Please, I need all the advice that I can get from the house. What are the chances of getting a visa when applying for a diploma course?

The school that I am considering is a Community College, I do have an SSCE and I am about 32 years -hope I am not giving out too much info?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Pee2Jay9: 8:09pm On Jun 18, 2020
Ur international passport is a National identifier.. Use that one and fill the issue and expiry dates on it

purleesh:


Thanksalot for your response sir but please what issue and expiry dates do you advise she fills in those spaces for the National ID in the permit form?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by purleesh(f): 8:15pm On Jun 18, 2020
Pee2Jay9:
Ur international passport is a National identifier.. Use that one and fill the issue and expiry dates on it


Thank you very much sir

I appreciate
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by ron5ke: 8:26pm On Jun 18, 2020
Frankrobbn1:


Concordia University admission process takes about 4-5 months prior to a decision is made. The current pandemic could have also prolonged the admission processing. My suggestion is that you should keep sending them a reminder mail every two (2) weeks to know the factual status of your application.


It will end in praise

Thanks. That was the reply I got when I emailed last. Will send a reminder again rhis week
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by ron5ke: 8:27pm On Jun 18, 2020
Siobhanle:



Hey, I applied for fall 2020 in november 2019 and got a decision in 2-3weeks.

They said engineering course takes 16weeks and it's been over 16weeks
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by FieryJoe: 8:31pm On Jun 18, 2020
Sanovsky007:
Hey everyone i just got an offer to study in calagry and i want to apply for study permit, personally what are my chances of succeeding?

Or do i need an agent to ensure smooth process.

I have my IELTS result, proof of funds, offer letter etc

Am a bit confused, I just need some guidance on how to go about it please i would appreciate if anyone could guide me through.

Did anyone applied to University of Regina recently? They are taking forever to respond to application...
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by ron5ke: 8:43pm On Jun 18, 2020
Luckymama:


If you were refused a study visa then I would expect that your letter of explanation should be centered around showing why the last refusal was a mistake or how your situation has changed. There’s no need avoiding the topic. As soon as your application is opened the last VO’s notes which details his reasons why he refused you.

It’s better you try your best to address the issues otherwise you might just get the same response

Thanks. That's what I thought too.just wanted to be sure
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by ndoeyopbennet: 9:00pm On Jun 18, 2020
Pee2Jay9:
I'm thrilled by this write up so kindly enlighten me on what made your application stand out.. It seems getting this scholarship and supervisors is more difficult than getting a job in a Nigeria.. Many just read and ignore ur numerous emails.. What made yours exceptional apart from favour?


It wasn't easy for me too. I got in after a year of initial attempt and I was very lucky. I applied for PhD at some universities in Canada in 2018 but was rejected in ALL of them. I had to use the rest of the year to rethink what went wrong and I believe what I did can be useful to prospective PhD and Masters by research applicants. I finally got 3 fully funded PhD offers in my second attempt. I had to select the one with the best offer.

1. Do not write like a Nigerian. This is kind of hard but you should know that the language of Nigerian research is not the typical language of research in the Western world. This is very important when you write your proposal/statement of program. You should try to read as many successful proposals as you can and then model yours after them. The implication of this point is that you should be mindful of your expressions, research interests, how your present your work/structure, etc. Locate the page that lists current graduate students on the department's website and mail current students. Ask them questions about the programme, the admission process, the Professors you can contact and most importantly, ask them to send you their proposals. You can also read the chapter one of recent theses from the department via their online theses repository.

2. If you're applying to thesis-based programmes, you should focus on a concrete research plan rather than personal stories of how you grew up in poverty or how you've always dreamt of studying in Canada and so on. Those personal tales are not necessary for research based programmes. You may probably start with a personal anecdote or motivation for your work but leave it there and concretize your research plan by detailing research questions, gaps in scholarship, purpose of proposed work, methodology, theories to be used, anticipated findings, and if possible, a short working bibliography.

3. You should establish contact with prospective supervisors as early as possible. Many of them select their students months before applications commence. This means that some supervisors already have candidates 3-4 months before application portals are opened. This is why they ignore other mails. If you want to apply to a thesis programme by September, start mailing prospective supervisors by January or February. Introduce yourself politely and attach your CV, transcript, and a short proposal. Make sure the email is customised and, if possible, draw connections between the supervisor's research and what you want to do. Try and leave a very strong impression.

4. Do not limit yourself to one school. Apply to as many as 5 or 6 schools. Initiate contacts with supervisors from a wide range of schools and then apply to the ones where you have supervisory confirmation. Note that some departments do not require you to get a supervisor before application. You should always confirm this on the department's website or with the Graduate Programme Coordinator. In any case, apply to many schools. Sometimes, the gamble can pay off and you'll get into more than one school.


5. Always emphasise what the department can offer you. Since resources are small and the applicant pool is large, you have to establish how your research "fits" into the department. Many departments have peculiar interests or focus. For instance, Carleton University's Department of Linguistics may focus on generative linguistics whereas University of Alberta's Department of Linguistics may focus on historical linguistics. You should always confirm this through the staff profiles and strengths. You can also ask the Graduate Programme Coordinator for confirmation.


The 5 points above will only be useful if you have good university grades (strong 2:1 or first class). Your last two years in school are very important.

Feel free to ask further questions.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Emmyinks: 9:01pm On Jun 18, 2020
Is there anybody here who has started his or her online course(probably for may intake) with university of Regina? I will like to ask few questions please

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