Hold on

Jeez


I want to disproved the fact that there was no Benin-ife connections that it was all made up for political gains........


What do i get

gregyboy:
Jeez


I want to disproved the fact that there was no Benin-ife connections that it was all made up for political gains........


What do i get

Sorry no prize for that.

samuk:


Sorry no price for that.

Ok

it span back from the 12th century.when crowned prince ekaladerhan that was sentenced to death was set free at ughoton near benin.

Ekaladerhan found his way to ile ife.and also changed his name to izoduwa.whom the ife people call oduduwa.the people of benin wanted ekaladerham as king after the death of his father but due to his already advanced age he presented oranmiyan his grandson instead

INnaMAN:
it span back from the 12th century.when crowned prince ekaladerhan that was sentenced to death was set free at ughoton near benin.

Ekaladerhan found his way to ile ife.and also changed his name to izoduwa.whom the ife people call oduduwa.the people of benin wanted ekaladerham as king after the death of his father but due to his already advanced age he presented oranmiyan his grandson instead

Please provide the 12th century book your historical accounts was written in and get your account details ready to receive the prize.

If you don't have a bank account, don't worry, your prize will be sent to you via western union.

samuk:


Please provide the 12th century book your historical accounts was written in and get your account details ready to receive the prize.

If you don't have a bank account, don't worry, your prize will be sent to you via western union.

The history of the acient benin kingdom and empire by chief D.N Oronsaye.

Hmm. Between 1476 and 1987, you say.

Hmm. If I go to my archives and dig up the books written by Talbot, Egharevba, etc, and you no wire me this 1K, I go swear for you oh. Hehn!

RedboneSmith:
Hmm. Between 1476 and 1987, you say.

Hmm. If I go to my archives and dig up the books written by Talbot, Egharevba, etc, and you no wire me this 1K, I go swear for you oh. Hehn!

The challenge is on, mind you Egharevba was written after 1897.

INnaMAN:
The history of the acient benin kingdom and empire by chief D.N Oronsaye.

D. N Oransaye was written after 1897. Nice try anyway.

samuk:

D. N Oransaye was written after 1897. Nice try anyway.

Thanks sir

RedboneSmith:
Hmm. Between 1476 and 1987, you say.

Hmm. If I go to my archives and dig up the books written by Talbot, Egharevba, etc, and you no wire me this 1K, I go swear for you oh. Hehn!

Redbone appears to be a man who pays close attention to details like dates. It’s a characteristic that serves historians well.

Please donate some of the money to charity on my behalf.

The history exists

Those who are ready to prove it should go ahead but It was Ife king that send his son to Bini to rule over them..


Revisionist are always weak in their own argument.

Juliusmalema:
The history exists

Those who are ready to prove it should go ahead but It was Ife king that send his son to Bini to rule over them..


Revisionist are always weak in their own argument.

Why don't you provide the answer to the challenge instead of calling on others to do it for you.

The period in question is 1475 to 1897.

samuk:


Why don't you provide the answer to the challenge instead of calling on others to do it for you.

The period in question is 1475 to 1897.

I have already proved that.

Ife ruled over Bini even till this day.

This like bringing two blood brothers and ask another person to tell the story of the same blood brothers when it is obvious one ruled over the other.

Juliusmalema:


I have already proved that.

Ife ruled over Bini even till this day.

This like bringing two blood brothers and ask another person to tell the story of the same blood brothers when it is obvious one ruled over the other.

Nna men forget about blood brothers fighting, all you need to do is simply repost your original prove since you claimed to have proved it before. You will not only embarrass me but deprive me of $1000 US dollars.

This is going to be a big embarrassment to the Igbos and Yorubas if they can't answer this simple question.

samuk:


Nna men forget about blood brothers fighting, all you need to do is simply repost your original prove since you claimed to have proved it before. You will not only embarrass me but deprive me of $1000 US dollars.

This is going to be a big embarrassment to the Igbos and Yorubas if they can't answer this simple question.

Igbos shouldn't be more concerned on the Ife history.

Don't you think so.

Hahahah! He fled after the humiliation. Follow thread below, people:

https://www.nairaland.com/5314103/benins-first-educated-nigerians-dr/9#89185234

TAO11:
Hahahah! He fled after the humiliation. Follow thread below, people:

https://www.nairaland.com/5314103/benins-first-educated-nigerians-dr/9#89185234

The queen of copy and paste fabrications doesn't know how to give a simple citation with date any more.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

samuk:


The queen of copy and paste fabrications doesn't know how to give a simple citation with date any more.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

You've been so badly humiliated that you forgot what your own challenge says even while you're looking at it.

You:
I need a writing not later than 1897 showing the names "Oduduwa, "Ife", "Oranmiyan", etc.

Me:
S. Johnson's work was completed in writing by 1897, and it's littered with these names.

You:
Eeeerm ... (#scratches head#) ... It wasn't typed and printed until afterwards.

Me:
I won't say a word.



What you should focus on now after your humiliation is below:

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.

Your idiocy must be obvious to you now at this point.

Samuk I can't imagine everyone is backings out on 1000k dollars
Seriously,

I guess the question is too tough for them since only the benin history was documented it will be unfair to the undocumented folks too



Be leaned with them by asking for the bones found in orun oba ado site, or any achaeological evidence between ife and benin

gregyboy:
Samuk I can't imagine everyone is backings out on 1000k dollars
Seriously,

I guess the question is too tough for them since only the benin history was documented it will be unfair to the undocumented folks too


Be leaned with them by asking for the bones found in orun oba ado site, or any achaeological evidence between ife and benin

The only person backing out on $2500 is samuk.

Not only that, he's been humiliated beyond repair on his own moronic challenge. See link below:

https://www.nairaland.com/5834711/benin-ife-history-1000-challenge#89188523

You may help him tho.

The Yoruba told us that the Benin people had a fantastic relationship with Ife since 1180AD.

When the European started visiting Benin from 1475 up till 1897, the Benin completely forgot to tell the various Europeans that documented Benin history about Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan. Some of these Europeans were resident in Benin for years. They never saw or hear anything about Benin/Ife relationship. They never saw any message from Benin to Ife or from Ife to Benin.

The Benin remembered to tell the Europeans about everyone else except Ife. Various rulers and people were spoken about and recorded but Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are missing from the Benin history books and European archives of Benin history between 1475 to 1897.

In 1897, after the fall of the Benin empire, the Benin suddenly woke up and realised that there was one small and very important detail about their history they haven't told anyone for 400 years. That is the Benin/Ife relationship.

Why did Benin forget this very important father and son relationship between Benin and Ife for over 400 years. Was it because there was no relationship in the first place or the Benin were just too busy decimating, conquering, colonising and killing every rebellious rulers around them and in far away lands.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

samuk:
The Yoruba told us that the Benin people had a fantastic relationship with Ife since 1180AD.

When the European started visiting Benin from 1475 up till 1897, the Benin completely forgot to tell the various Europeans that documented Benin history about Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan. Some of these Europeans were resident in Benin for years. They never saw or hear anything about Benin/Ife relationship. They never saw any message from Benin to Ife or from Ife to Benin.

The Benin remembered to tell the Europeans about everyone else except Ife. Various rulers and people were spoken about and recorded but Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan are missing from the Benin history books and European archives of Benin history between 1475 to 1897.

In 1897, after the fall of the Benin empire, the Benin suddenly woke up and realised that there was one small and very important detail about their history they haven't told anyone for 400 years. That is the Benin/Ife relationship.

Why did Benin forget this very important father and son relationship between Benin and Ife for over 400 years. Was it because there was no relationship in the first place or the Benin were just too busy decimating, conquering, colonising and killing every rebellious rulers around them and in far away lands.

I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

I didn't expect you to openly admit in your own words to being humiliated by your own inane challenge.

The conversation is however there as the internet doesn't forget. It's summary went as follows:

You: 
I need a writing not later than 1897 showing the names "Oduduwa, "Ife", "Oranmiyan", etc.

Me:
S. Johnson's work was completed in writing by 1897, and it's littered with these names.

You: 
Eeeerm ... (#scratches head#) ... It wasn't typed and printed until afterwards.

Me:
I won't say a word.  

Having been humiliated by your own challenge, here is a challenge for you for 2500 whopping dollars.

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.



Having said that, João de Barros, Duarte Pacheco Percira, Manuel de Figueirdo, Dierick Ruiters, and Alonso de Sandoval all wrote in the early1500s and the 1600s about the Binis regard as Oghene who was an overlord to your Benin kings.

Scholars of Benin history, examining those early European writings, conlude unanimously that this Oghene is none other that the Ooni of Ife:

The following are scholars who examined those European writing, and have reached that same conlusion:

Stoll (1902), Roth (1903), Marquart (1913), Talbot (1926), Schurhammer (1928), P. Marti (1960), Mauny (1961), R. Bradbury (1964), I. Akinjogbin (1967), R. Law (1973), F. Willett (1973), A. Obayemi (1976), R. Horton (1979), R. Thompson, H. Drewal, S. Blier, S. Akintoye, et al.


But according to samuk, all these experts of African history are all LyInG.

TAO11:


I didn't expect you to openly admit in your own words to being humiliated by your own inane challenge.

The conversation is however there as the internet doesn't forget. It's summary went as follows:

You: 
I need a writing not later than 1897 showing the names "Oduduwa, "Ife", "Oranmiyan", etc.

Me:
S. Johnson's work was completed in writing by 1897, and it's littered with these names.

You: 
Eeeerm ... (#scratches head#) ... It wasn't typed and printed until afterwards.

Me:
I won't say a word.  

Having been humiliated by your own challenge, here is a challenge for you for 2500 whopping dollars.

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.



Having said that, João de Barros, Duarte Pacheco Percira, Manuel de Figueirdo, Dierick Ruiters, and Alonso de Sandoval all wrote in the early1500s and the 1600s about the Binis regard as Oghene who was an overlord to your Benin kings.

Scholars of Benin history, examining those early European writings, conlude unanimously that this Oghene is none other that the Ooni of Ife:

The following are scholars who examined those European writing, and have reached that same conlusion:

Stoll (1902), Roth (1903), Marquart (1913), Talbot (1926), Schurhammer (1928), P. Marti (1960), Mauny (1961), R. Bradbury (1964), I. Akinjogbin (1967), R. Law (1973), F. Willett (1973), A. Obayemi (1976), R. Horton (1979), R. Thompson, H. Drewal, S. Blier, S. Akintoye, et al.


But according to samuk, all these experts of African history are all LyInG.

You tried your best but all your references are after 1897, so you failed yet again on this attempt. You can try again.

I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

samuk:



You tried your best but all your references are after 1897, so you failed yet again on this attempt. You can try again.

I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

Of course, 1500s and 1600s European writings (as well Johnson's work completed in 1897) are all aFtEr 1897.

Challenge For You for a whooping $2500:

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.

TAO11:

Of course, 1500s and 1600s European writings (as well Johnson's work completed in 1897) are all aFtEr 1897.

Challenge For You for a whooping $2500:

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.

Where are all the Yoruba men here. This is becoming very embarrassing. Poor TAO11, she can't insult, copy and paste her way out of this, please guys, she needs your help come to her rescue.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

samuk:


Where are all the Yoruba men here. This is becoming very embarrassing. Poor TAO11, she can't insult, copy and paste her way out of this, please guys, she needs your help come to her rescue.


I am throwing an open challenge to anyone here to provide any mention of Ife, Oduduwa and Oranmiyan in Benin written history between 1475 to 1897, a 400 years period. I will send that person $1000, yes one thousand dollars to cushion the effects of these lockdown.

Hahahahahaha!

If they join hands in this, then that will be tantamount to maltreating you.

People will be like Oranmiyan did his own in the real-world, and you people are doing your own to Edos on Nairaland.

Provide me a book written between 1475 and 1930 with the mention of the name "Ekalderhan". I will send you $2500 to cushion the effect of the lockdown if you can.

And if you can't, then know that such person does not exist and your ancestors have been deceived.