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Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by johndavid1(m): 5:29pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by Sharonf(f): 5:56pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
sledge406: And this is your own useful insight? That stu pid mother of yours must be real proud to have made an internet warrior come from her stinky vagin a |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by texazzpete(m): 6:12pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
beknown: Do you realize this is kidnapping? Abeg, don't go and take a child from his/her parents without their consent. They'll skin you alive. Let's keep contributions sensible, please. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by oweniwe(m): 6:57pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
Dem fulani people gan. . . I no understand them at all. At most motor park or junction in warri, a 5 yrs old fulani boy or girl runs after you with a rag in hand and wipes your shoes and then waves at u for money. Then the mother too appears from nowhere and smiles casually "abeg giv am something oga" I look at the kid and tell him\her "begging is not your lot" and walk away |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by ladej(m): 6:59pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
snthesis:registered orphanages for starters. texazzpete:true say beknown:excellent contribution |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by buzugee(m): 7:02pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
oweniwe:you are a stingy and heartless vato. so the kid actually takes the time to wipe your shoes and yet you just walk away casually without even giving him a bubble gum ? geezzzz |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by buzugee(m): 7:06pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
whatever will make a person beg on the streets is either 'poverty of morals' or 'actual poverty'. either way, 'poverty' is involved. so please give them food or money. it does say in the bible that 'whomsoever sees me hungry and does not feed me does not love me' , or something like that. that kid is made in the lords image. feed him. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by beknown(m): 7:14pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
texazzpete: It is not kidnapping if done sensibly and with authorisation. This is why a registered NGO volunteers/personnel is required, not ordinary people. It is done with the support of local Police. Any child collected from the streets will automatically be recorded with the local Police in case they have been reported missing. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by buzugee(m): 7:23pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
beknown:you think this is london ?? this vato has spent too long in london. time to come home bruh. you are getting soft |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by lovejo(m): 7:32pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
If the parens and the government has failed, how can i pass? this is government task and NGO can also assist, then we individual can assit through NGO if they are not as corrupt as the government. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by oweniwe(m): 7:33pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
buzugee:Its not that i'm stingy or wicked. At first, i used to give (after giving, other kids will surround u, hold ur trousers and escort me around begging for money causing u embarrasment) but later, i thought its not good. Giving the kids money will encourage then to continue begging so next time i don't giv even though my conscience is seriouly hammaring me. If you give to the kids, the mother collects the money for them. What the mother does wit the money. . . WHO KNOWS? From whatever angle you see it, begging is not good and should not be encouraged in any way |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by Sunboy400(m): 7:37pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
The fact is that most of them are sent by thier lazy parents or guardians to beg for them.The national Assembly should pass a bill baring child beggars and if caught thier guardian should be fined a particular fee or spend 2weeks in a police cell of thier choice. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by texazzpete(m): 8:08pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
beknown: This is illegal as heck. You have to inform the parents FIRST. Either you obtain their consent or legally take the child away to a better home. Until you have the appropriate laws in place, any 'NGO' that just goes out and picks up a child from the streets is kidnapping. Remember also that the kids have grown up with begging as a profession. They may very well love their families. At the least, most of the kids you pick up will be unwilling to leave. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by buzugee(m): 8:11pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
oweniwe:i hear ya bruv. as for me ? as long as i have, i will never stop giving. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by MrCork17: 8:47pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
Sorrry i cannnut relate to this topick we do nut has such things here in london: childs beggers. this is London, not Nigeria (no oofeinse)! |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by beknown(m): 11:53pm On Jan 11, 2011 |
texazzpete: No child will be taken without their consent. The essence of orphanages is to look after children without parents and guardian. The job of the NGO is to help care for child destitutes in the community. Any community or parent that refuse help will be left alone. No fight or force. For example, in London, some people sleep on the street willingly. Some these destitutes in London are given food and shelter as a matter of choice. No force. @texazzpete, I am very disappointed that all your 'legal' knowledge can only produce argument without any solution to the problem. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by Nobody: 12:46am On Jan 12, 2011 |
This is why I cant stand some Nigerians. . . . complaining like biaches. mtcheww Stop giving them money and stop pitying them. Pity only affects the pitier, if nothing is being actively done about it. What do you expect from motherless, poor children to do? BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO? 1. If each person, barren or not, can adopt and take care of one or more of these children, it would help. 2. If they beg for money, refuse to hand out free money. Tell them to clean your compound or cut your grass etc. Let them work for it. Why? Because it shows them that hardworking earns money. 3. If you decide to bring them home as housemaid or gateman, let their children get a glance of education with your own kids. Like let them read with your children. While you're helping your children with homework, let them also see what you're doing. 4. Pass out condoms. Educate them about contraceptions. SOME people wants to prevent pregnancy, but dont know how to. It's annoying when you have beggars having 10kids. Like seriously, se x is GREAT (oh yes!) , but dont be popping kids everytime. Little stuff like that can help. I'm thinking of adopting one or two fulani kids in the future, if Nigeria's government would let me bring them here as one of my own. Those kids are so cute and innocent This is what I cant stand about the North. You despise western education, but run off to a westernized region of Nigeria to beg. Dont you think if you educate yourself a lil, the begging would lessen? Education will cut down the amount of beggar children in your region. Not saying that all of the beggars are Northerners, but most of them are! And sharia does have a lot to do with this. How is a man supposed to work in Nigeria's rough atmosphere if you cut off his two hands or two legs because he stole a cow? Anywaz, stop sending your beggars to the South Deal with what you created. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by Princek12(m): 2:09am On Jan 12, 2011 |
Novice1: How is it irresponsible? Guyman02: Na the Sharia people cut 'em off. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by marabout(m): 5:29am On Jan 12, 2011 |
Awwwww. But OP, if everyone starts giving lots of money to orphanages, you will soon see bogus orphanages springing up everywhere like churches (God Punish Devil Church, Earth-Wind-n-Fire Church, Water-from-the-Rock Miracle Church, Pharaoh Perish in Redsea Miracle Church, Staff Turned to Snake Miracle Church, etc). Some will just gather their children, their neighbours' kids, nieces and nephews, rent a rundown bungalow in Ajegunle and pretend to be an orphanage. If boosting the "entrepreneural ingenuity" of some people is your aim, then it is welcome. With NASS only managing to pass 24 bills almost all relating to appropriation or other kind of jamboree and you chop i chop self-serving venture, chickens will grow teeth before they lift a finger. Anyway those who really want to give to orphanages can still do so in a discrete manner or contact Aisha or any other public spirited person. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by Olaedo1: 5:47am On Jan 12, 2011 |
The only thing i would give is a piece of advice, "read a book and don't become like your mama". |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by marabout(m): 6:34am On Jan 12, 2011 |
I don't generally give cash. I mean to beggers here in the West but I do ocassionally go to the nearest KFC or McDonald and pay for their order. Usually if I am not in a hurry. If you offer to buy guguru ati Epa or any other food for someone and he says no, then you know he's been used to make money. Please remember what Jesus said in: Matthew 25: 35-46. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,f you did it to me.’ 41“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42" For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” WHETHER YOU TAKE THIS LITERALLY OR NOT, IT CERTAINLY HAS A MORAL MESSAGE.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by saul9steve(m): 6:40am On Jan 12, 2011 |
Abusing children and forcing them to beg should be stopped totally. This awareness should be invoked in public itself. Such poor kids should be helped as begging and all is forcefully done by them either by their parents or by some Masterminds (as we all know), |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by larimo(m): 7:09am On Jan 12, 2011 |
There was a newspaper article published sometime last year on what these beggars make daily. Some vowed never to stop 'cos they get as much as N2,000 to N3,000 a day. No doubt, these children are being used illegally and shamefully by their irresponsible parents who are not even disabled. The government must pass a law to stop it. There are thousands of menial but respectable jobs that can be done especially in this Lagos, but the parents decide to be lazy. I admire the physically challenged persons I see especially on Sanusi Fafunwa in VI who help in controlling the traffic. The guys are working and they get tips from drivers. There are some who also sell on the road though its dangerous but they have an initiative. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by Holla2: 8:39am On Jan 12, 2011 |
Lets not lose sight of the underlying principle behind that post while pushing blames: if the parents have failed and the government has equally failed in her responsibility, the society must NOT fail. The society is you and I. So the question is "what can I do to effect a change?" In the first place, leave those fulani kids out of this. Their parents are so hard-hearted that they would never allow you take a kid away for whatever reason except there's a force backed up by the law. They are here strictly for business. Now, many of the kid beggars we see around lagos and other states are rather unfortunate. They are a product of failed parents and insensitive goverment. We must realise that the same kids when fully grown becomes the armed robber(for instance) that terrorizes innocent citizens, not the parent or government. We are not different when all we can do is trade blames. N/land is a community of intelligent people. I believe something great can come out of here to positively affect our society IF the solution-oriented comments so far, are not drowned by arguments that seek to make us look handicap and capable of doing nothing. Its not a bad idea if a "save the street kids"(or whatever) project can emerge from our many discussions. "be the change that you want to see". |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by texazzpete(m): 8:52am On Jan 12, 2011 |
beknown: I've told you, stop giving these kids money. Stop making begging lucrative for their parents. Simple as that. The OP talked about what we as individuals can do, any solution i will bring up is tied to what the average joe on the street can do. Talking about NGOs and Government laws is off topic, sorry. Also, i've given you sound advice on how to avoid being arrested (or mobbed and burnt on the streets of Lagos) for kidnapping. Show some gratitude, willya? |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by Holla2: 9:05am On Jan 12, 2011 |
Beknown gave us this valuable contribution: To set the ball rolling, we need a simple plan: 1. Provide a list of registered orphanages in Lagos (done! Additions are welcome) 2. The next step is to contact each orphanage to determine their capacity and their current vacancy (pending) 3. The next step is to collect these children every day/night and take them to their nearest orphanage with vacancy (I'm aware that some NGOs do so. What we need is the method they've been using. Its not impossible, contributions please). 4. People can then make donations to these orphanages in cash or kind (Viable. Donations could be made directly to the orphanages to cater for kids we have picked to sponsor) Wouldn't it be nice to someday boast that N/landers currently sponsor about 50 kids in different orphanages across Lagos? Its possible people. |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by Busybody2(f): 9:07am On Jan 12, 2011 |
Holla!: Welcome to Nigeria and Nigerians with their not-in-my-backyard-mentality Hope you would not end up screaming yourself hoarse. Freaking crab-in-a-basket set of entities |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by ifyalways(f): 9:08am On Jan 12, 2011 |
Folks suggesting taking them willingly from their parents or giving them jobs to do must be living in la la land or have NOT really encountered those fulani/chad beggars . . . .The love/ties btwn them and their parents is extremely strong.No amount of money can entice them to disobey or leave their parents to work or go to any home. I think the solution is to deal with the root cause,the parents. @Toyin,adoption is not as easy as we think.There are age limits . . . You cant just wake up and adopt an 8Yr old boy off the streets of lagos and bring into ur home unless u have a death wish for urself.We can however foster a child age,notwithstanding. Btwn,those child beggars aint even going nowhere,begging is their only known source of livelihood,they sort of believe they are born to beg . . .even the pretty grown up ones don't enter pro.stitution,they marry a fellow beggar and the cycle goes on . . . |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by abrahym(m): 9:10am On Jan 12, 2011 |
Survival first |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by ifyalways(f): 9:15am On Jan 12, 2011 |
Btwn,strong tower Mission give out free food items,clothing,accommodation and go as far as starting up small-scale biz for ppl,all for free . . .I have lost count of how many times we have had to beg,coerce some of these beggars to just say yes and atleast get a roof over their head,get the kids in school etc.Guess what,once that suggestion is made . . .they never come back again,even for the free food. http://www.stmng.org/about.html |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by delimit(m): 9:21am On Jan 12, 2011 |
The almajiris are born to beg so their is nothing you can do about it. in the north,male child are send to learn Koran and Koran teacher will thereby send them out to beg because nobody cares for them even the parents that send them to Koranic school. the Hausa's only care for female child in this situation what can we do. In 2002 when i was in warri, i was made to understood that most of this beggar in the street of warri and effurun have houses and trucks (tankers), because warri and effurun people dont give some money to beggars (oil rich state). NL Do your best in little way you know you can help those genuine beggar among them |
Re: Child Beggars On Lagos Street by collinsoft(m): 9:46am On Jan 12, 2011 |
This is my little contribution. Give each of this kids CONDOM and tell them to play safe when they grow old so that their kids dont end up in the street just like they are doing. if you support this condom project say I but if you dont just shut up. |
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