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Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 10:42am On May 10, 2020
Nobleking1994:


The players at inter milan has won the league for two straight years before his arrival so they have a very good momentum and team spirit.

Inter milan team was a better team than barcelona team pep inherited.

Remember Barcelona went trophyless a season before guadiola arrived. A back to back champions and a trophyless team which one is better.

Inter Milan better than a team that won 6 trophies the year before?? Or the team that would have won UCL 3ce back??

That year it was either inter or Barca for the treble.... 2009/10
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 10:45am On May 10, 2020
Nobleking1994:


you said the truth most of them downplays peps achievement because they think he coaches already made teams.

Lol... Barcelona fans complaining of downplaying a person's success...how ironic... Wonders shall never end.... The fans that downplay other players to raise their own....

Barca fans have downplayed

Alex Ferguson
Jose Mourinho
Cristiano Ronaldo
Zinedine Zidane

Lol....
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Nobleking1994(m): 10:47am On May 10, 2020
Jokerman:


Inter Milan better than a team that won 6 trophies the year before?? Or the team that would have won UCL 3ce back??

That year it was either inter or Barca for the treble.... 2009/10

Dont misunderstand me. I am talking about the team each coach inherited in his first season at the club.

Inter milan of 2010 and Barcelona team of 2008 before the season started which team was in better shape and form.

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Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 10:48am On May 10, 2020
Nobleking1994:


you said the truth most of them downplays peps achievement because they think he coaches already made teams.

Aren't you Barca fans the highest downplayed? grin...just imagine, youse that downplay Ferguson, Mourinho or Cristiano, complaining of downplay... Lol

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Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by senatordave1(m): 10:49am On May 10, 2020
AAA593:

I should be telling because you can't throwaway his past records because he had difficult times in his last days. Nawa for u o bro

Am not.am only placing him where he rightly is,4th.he could only manage 3 EPL titles in 20 years while mourinho won 3 within 4 years and pep 2 in 4 years.Jose and pep have more winning ratios.Wenger cannot survive under stiff competition.when he came in 1996,his only competition was Sir Alex and Wenger only managed 3 titles in 8 years.by the time mourinho came,he started struggling for 4th.with the emergence of city and spurs as strong contenders,Wenger was out of it.

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Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by charlesonwubolu: 10:51am On May 10, 2020
Olutola88:
Barcelona didn't have any condition. They only had people issue. Don't make it sound like there was an irredeemable crisis. They had very fantastic players.

The players at Inter Milan were very old, most of them in their 30s. The question is what did Inter achieve with those players One year before Mou came and One year after Mou left. Bros, this is more conspicuous than anything. Don't bother arguing.


There was an irredeemable crisis there because it seemed Frank Rijkaard, the coach was too lenient with them. This somewhat transcended into late night club rendezvous and training schedule misses, especially ronaldinho and Etoo, belleti..this came to a head as videos of indecent exposure of those guys started surfacing on the internet (use of "a head" is a double entendre.. Do the math)
Suffice to say it showed in performance so much so that they didnt compete at all.
Pep didnt just change players. He took major risks... Brought back a struggling Gerard Pique from man united and built his defence around him (la masia connection). He niw promoted all those la masia boys and made them the big boys... Iniesta et al plus others... Built team around busquets a la yaya toure.. Promoted alcantara, pedro, etc... Played the best football at the time in all of Europe by his 2nd season...
Give him his f...... Flowers Pls. Dude is a revolutionary. #false9 #4-6-0 #80 - 20%....

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Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 10:54am On May 10, 2020
Nobleking1994:


Dont misunderstand me. I am talking about the team each coach inherited in his first season at the club.

Inter milan of 2010 and Barcelona team of 2008 before the season started which team was in better shape and form.

Yeah.... Inter was in better form locally, but internationally Barca was better....
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 10:55am On May 10, 2020
senatordave1:


Am not.am only placing him where he rightly is,4th.he could only manage 3 EPL titles in 20 years while mourinho won 3 within 4 years and pep 2 in 4 years.Jose and pep have more winning ratios.Wenger cannot survive under stiff competition.when he came in 1996,his only competition was Sir Alex and Wenger only managed 3 titles in 8 years.by the time mourinho came,he started struggling for 4th.with the emergence of city and spurs as strong contenders,Wenger was out of it.

Did you consider the type of players each coach had??
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by senatordave1(m): 10:58am On May 10, 2020
Jokerman:


Did you consider the type of players each coach had??
Is that not solely the fault of the coaches? Wenger was like the sole administrator at arsenal
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Mavrick2012: 11:03am On May 10, 2020
Jokerman:


See for yourself clown....
1, you still didn't answer my simple question.
2,How does this makes him better than pep?
3,Sir, we are talking trophies, you talking??
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Myself2(m): 11:10am On May 10, 2020
1. Sir Alex Ferguson
2. Arsene Wenger ( the longest serving premier league manager and the one that won the most FA cups also only expert chef that could prepare exquisite continental dishes on a low budget, Genius


The rest ( Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola) are just there on the list because they had enough money to guy titles literally
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 11:11am On May 10, 2020
Mavrick2012:

1, you still didn't answer my simple question.
2,How does this makes him better than pep?
3,Sir, we are talking trophies, you talking??

Mourinho has won best coach award 4 times as opposed to Pep with two... Moreover pep just won them with Barcelona, Mou has won it with 4 different teams (Porto, Chelsea, Inter and Madrid)

Mourinho has won every trophy Pep has won in football...

Mou successes at Porto > Pep career
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 11:16am On May 10, 2020
senatordave1:

Is that not solely the fault of the coaches? Wenger was like the sole administrator at arsenal

So you forgot Arsenal was in debt and paying for the Emirates??
When Wenger had great players like Henry, Bergkamp, etc, we saw what he could do... Moreover I'm no Arsenal fan
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Mavrick2012: 11:17am On May 10, 2020
Jokerman:


We are not talking of trophies here. Coz if we are talking of trophies,you would be crazy to put Pep above Fergie, but just football.. honestly Ole is a better coach than Pep. Do you know what it is to use lingard and mctominay to trash you 3ce with the likes of Kelvin de Bryne and David Silva??
I never put pep above sir Alex.
I only insist pep is a very good coach and 100times better than ur ole.
Ole better than pep Hahaha hahaha hahaha.
How does that sound to you?
See how u just underrated Jesse linguard.
Show me what places Kevin above linguard.
See,when it matters most,pep Will always trash ole, reason why he trashed ole 3-0 right at old Trafford because he needed to advance to carabao final.
Beating pep at a league where Liverpool have won and peps City are sure of second place?its just inconsequential bro. Hahaha.
Ole better than pep? Hahaha
Go ask those that knows football,no one,i repeat,no one will pick ole above pep, except you and those who knows little about the round leather game.
Hahaha
Show me ole's trophY.
Hahaha

Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by senatordave1(m): 11:18am On May 10, 2020
Jokerman:


So you forgot Arsenal was in debt and paying for the Emirates??
When Wenger had great players like Henry, Bergkamp, etc, we saw what he could do... Moreover I'm no Arsenal fan
He did nothing special.that Emirates debt was imaginary and audio.other clubs have built stadium and it did not crumble them.don't forget arsenal was more prudent than this clubs.Wenger is a failure pls
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Rroszy(m): 11:21am On May 10, 2020
1. Sir Alex Ferguson 2. Arsen Wenger 3. Jose Mourinho 4. Pep Gaudiola

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Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 11:23am On May 10, 2020
Nobleking1994:


Italian teams does perfectly well with aged players. Even then uptil now.

Mourinho has world class players at his disposal there than pep.

if you doubt let us compare individual players. and check their stats.

GK Victor valdes and julio ceasar.
who was better as of then.

Lol....the top 3 players that year were...

Messi
Xavi
Iniesta

Which inter Milan player was better??
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Mavrick2012: 11:25am On May 10, 2020
frankmoney:
they said greatest premier league manager of all time . How will you put someone that has only two premier league titles and one fa cup ?
And 3 carabao cups,
And 2 community shields.
Sir,pep holds the best trophy/match ratio in the entire history of your epl.
While Fergi has 65percent epl win,pep currently holds 75percent win (again,the Best in The entire history of the epl)
Trophy/match ratio and percentage of win is the best indices used to access coaches since they have varied coaching period.

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Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 11:28am On May 10, 2020
senatordave1:

He did nothing special.that Emirates debt was imaginary and audio.other clubs have built stadium and it did not crumble them.don't forget arsenal was more prudent than this clubs.Wenger is a failure pls

Can you name any 3 world class player after the golden league players, Wenger had, as compared to Fergie, Mou or pep....
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Nobleking1994(m): 11:28am On May 10, 2020
Jokerman:


Yeah.... Inter was in better form locally, but internationally Barca was better....

So barca was in poor form locally but he came in and improved their fotunes locally and internationally from finishing third to winning the trophy and from semi final to winning the champions league but most guys downplays his achievements that year to praise mourinho achievement.
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Nobleking1994(m): 11:33am On May 10, 2020
Jokerman:


Lol....the top 3 players that year were...

Messi
Xavi
Iniesta

Which inter Milan player was better??

Prior to the start of that season were these players known as being world class.

ETO
MILITO
SNEIJDER
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Hndrrxxx(m): 11:36am On May 10, 2020
Considering all data and stats here on NL,
Arsene Wenger takes the first spot immediately followed by Sir Alex Ferguson then Lord Jose Mourinho comes before Pep Guardiola��






Damnnn@@$#
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by senatordave1(m): 11:37am On May 10, 2020
Jokerman:


Can you name any 3 world class player after the golden league players, Wenger had, as compared to Fergie, Mou or pep....
Fabregas,rvp,Lehmann,adebayor(at a point) Gilberto Silva,Sanchez,ozil
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by hermesprogidy(m): 11:41am On May 10, 2020
mperornero:
like you started watching football this season...pep beat him 3:1@ old trafford in fa cup 1st leg, it could have been 5:1 if not for wastefulness of sterling. Last season pep trashed ole home and away. 3:1 , 2:0 go check your h2h stats. Again hate is real. no let am kill you.
When did pep beat ole twice last season? What EPL are you watching?
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by hermesprogidy(m): 11:42am On May 10, 2020
Mavrick2012:

And 3 carabao cups,
And 2 community shields.
Sir,pep holds the best trophy/match ratio in the entire history of your epl.
While Fergi has 65percent epl win,pep currently holds 75percent win (again,the Best in The entire history of the epl)
Trophy/match ratio and percentage of win is the best indices used to access coaches since they have varied coaching period.
Senseless analysis.
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 11:43am On May 10, 2020
Mavrick2012:

I never put pep above sir Alex.
I only insist pep is a very good coach and 100times better than ur ole.
Ole better than pep Hahaha hahaha hahaha.
How does that sound to you?
See how u just underrated Jesse linguard.
Show me what places Kevin above linguard.
See,when it matters most,pep Will always trash ole, reason why he trashed ole 3-0 right at old Trafford because he needed to advance to carabao final.
Beating pep at a league where Liverpool have won and peps City are sure of second place?its just inconsequential bro. Hahaha.
Ole better than pep? Hahaha
Go ask those that knows football,no one,i repeat,no one will pick ole above pep, except you and those who knows little about the round leather game.
Hahaha
Show me ole's trophY.
Hahaha

Let Ole stay 15 years like Pep, and see what he would win especially with cash like pep normally have.... How can Ole beat Pep like a baby three times?
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 11:45am On May 10, 2020
Nobleking1994:


So barca was in poor form locally but he came in and improved their fotunes locally and internationally from finishing third to winning the trophy and from semi final to winning the champions league but most guys downplays his achievements that year to praise mourinho achievement.


Nobody downplayed Pep. We are only saying what Mou did with inter winning double and treble, was something great with players who were not on the level of Barcelona players then....
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 11:47am On May 10, 2020
Nobleking1994:


Prior to the start of that season were these players known as being world class.

ETO
MILITO
SNEIJDER


Were they better than Barca players??
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by owowa145(m): 11:49am On May 10, 2020
post=89379271:

1. Sir Alex Ferguson.
2. Jose Mourinho.
3. Arsene Wenger.

We respect your opinion tho....
Thank you! kiss


At the bolded, Haba! shocked
Going 49 games unbeaten is not an easy feat o!
That alone landed him in the 3rd position!!
No manager has been able to achieve that, even though if that doesn't make him the best,
He tried.......

But the man below is the...........
Zidane attained more CL than he did. Over hype abeg. Coming frm a ManU fan
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by EROMS38(m): 11:51am On May 10, 2020
Sir Alex leads others follow...
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by Jokerman(m): 11:51am On May 10, 2020
senatordave1:

Fabregas,rvp,Lehmann,adebayor(at a point) Gilberto Silva,Sanchez,ozil

Lol... Adebariyor world class??

Ok let's compare with Fergie, Mou and Pep

Fergie:
Ronaldo
Rooney
Tevez
Scholes
Vidic
Van der sar

Mou
Drogba
Lampard
Ronaldo
Sneijder
Cech
Calvalho

Pep
Messi
Xavi
Iniesta
Villa
Neuer
Ribery
Aguero

Now just imagine if Wenger had any player in the class of these players....
Re: Who Deserves Title Of Greatest Premier League Manager? by sylve11: 11:52am On May 10, 2020
DaySpringer:
Arsene Wenger is not supposed to be there.

Having one Invincibles season and just three premier league titles in 20+ years in a particular league with the last one coming close to a decade before his retirement is a reason not to have him there.



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