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Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by ndcide(m): 8:25pm On May 25, 2020 |
ponziponzi: You are one of the mo.ons. Go and read the post. 1 Like |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by Charity85(m): 8:27pm On May 25, 2020 |
alezzy13:. How does hydroxychloroquine cause toxicity to the heart, surely you don't know. What is the normal QT interval, He still doesn't know . What is necessary to be done to screen for underlying arrhythmias , He still doesn't know. Yet he calls everyone illiterate. Empty vessels makes the loudest noise 3 Likes |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by ndcide(m): 8:27pm On May 25, 2020 |
MrMcJay: You are a wise man sir. You can't easily fall for a blackmail. 1 Like |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by mauchiz: 8:30pm On May 25, 2020 |
WHO should stop all this, 20 years ago, I was always given this drugs anytime I have malaria, it will itch me until morning, I will cry and cry, my late mum will beat me on top my cry. This people are lying against this drug. In Nigeria, we drank this drugs very well those days, I now believe Trump, Who is gone. Chei, na waaoo, the world Don enter one chance for WHO hand, It is only God that will save us, The drugs is not harmful, 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by MrMcJay(m): 8:33pm On May 25, 2020 |
ndcide: Thanks sir. Information is power. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by ponziponzi(m): 8:34pm On May 25, 2020 |
ndcide: Did you see this part of the article? "The steering committee decided to suspend enrollment to that arm of the so-called Solidarity trials, WHO officials said Monday. That’s after the Lancet published a study that said the drug, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a treatment, was linked to an increased risk of death and heart ailments." This is the study the article is referring to, you dimw.it:
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Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by MasterJayJay: 8:35pm On May 25, 2020 |
NaijaRoyalty:Did you take chloroquine because of covid-19? Nobody is scaring you. You can treat yourself. WHO is doing its job. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by MasterJayJay: 8:37pm On May 25, 2020 |
mauchiz:Were you infected with covid-19 20 years ago? |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by alezzy13: 8:39pm On May 25, 2020 |
WHO is not stopping the trial. They are merely suspending FURTHER ENROLLMENT INTO IT. A study was published in the lancet which shows disturbing trends of increased mortality among people who were given CQ and HCQ, compared to those who weren't. If evidence points to possible harm regarding its use, the it negates one of the main tenets of clinical trials - "first do no harm" - to continue recruitment. The evidence will be reviewed, and if they feel it should continue, then it would. "But we've been using CQ for decades naa, why didnt they experience these adverse effects?" Well, its just a guess, but perhaps because THEY WERE NOT INFECTED WITH COVID-19?. And yes, we are beginning to learn more and more about possible connections. COVID-19 has been known to cause myocaridal injury and hypoxia, and it is suspected to have an additive effect with the proarrthymic properties of CQ and HCQ. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31174-0/fulltext |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by alezzy13: 8:41pm On May 25, 2020 |
Charity85: see my post above |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by LordReed(m): 8:43pm On May 25, 2020 |
NaijaRoyalty: So that you'll accuse them of using the drug to kill bah, you try. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by ndcide(m): 8:45pm On May 25, 2020 |
ponziponzi: Did you also miss this part I quoted below? So how do they hope to gather accurate evidence, with the campaign to stop the use. Look, I don't know you. So if you think those who question these bodies are foolish, then you've traded your God given wisdom. [quote] “It’s important to continue to gather evidence on the efficacy and safety of hydroxychloroquine,” WHO Chief Scientist Soumya Swaminathan said at a press briefing in Geneva. “We want to use it if it’s safe and efficacious, reduces mortality, reduces the length of hospitalization without increasing adverse events.”/quote] |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by tony5(m): 8:46pm On May 25, 2020 |
Tadwears2050:WHO Is Not Playing Along With China, The Mistake WHO Did Was Not Coming Out Straight To Tell The World The Virus Is Still Under Obsvervation Despite The Measures Put In Place To Prevent It From Spreading, China Will Never Shot Herself In The Leg Knowing What's At Stake |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by alezzy13: 8:49pm On May 25, 2020 |
MrMcJay: To the first point: There is no concrete evidence that use of face mask in the community will prevent healthy people from getting infected. What the mask does is to prevent spread from an infected person. Well for the other points, its been debated severally, and while we agree there were mistakes, we also should understand the limitations of WHO. FYI: The same WHO was also criticized during the ebola crisis, then, incidentally, headed by a doctor, so its not really new. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by ponziponzi(m): 8:50pm On May 25, 2020 |
ndcide: Sorry mate, you don't deserve a reply from me. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by alezzy13: 8:52pm On May 25, 2020 |
ndcide: you obviously have comprehension problems. One of the largest observational already points to potential toxicyt in covid patients, so what other evidence do you need? |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by eyinjuege: 8:56pm On May 25, 2020 |
To those shouting that chloroquine has been in existence for a long time and it's used to treat malaria and rheumatoid arthritis/lupus: When last did you use chloroquine to treat malaria? Chloroquine is gradually been phased out as the mainstay for malaria treatment in malaria endemic regions. Secondly and most importantly, when treating malaria with chloroquine , it's for 2 or 3 days only, unlike covid where treatment is for over 10 days. Definitely, the side effects will be much more pronounced in covid patients compared to malaria patients. Even in rheumatoid arthritis where they take the drug daily, the dose is much lower than the dose used in the treatment of malaria. I would say Chloroquine is not safe when used at high doses for long periods. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by eyinjuege: 9:02pm On May 25, 2020 |
ndcide: It is madness and very negligent to continue to give human beings a drug that you have seen causes significant side effects in the name of a clinical trial. Infact, it is very unethical to continue such a trial. Infact, it borders on wickedness and perhaps attempted murder. They have done the right thing by stopping such a trial. You cannot say because you want to cure eczema , you will give a drug that will cause leprosy. It's madness. They will probably die quicker with the arrhythmias than only the covid. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by ndcide(m): 9:14pm On May 25, 2020 |
eyinjuege: I thought you would have told me how they want to get their evidence. Do also give the alternative to the drug that is being used till date. When a system is compromised it's always very difficult to help people. FYI, WHO and their syndicates, have lost it. They'll rely on echo chembers like you to continue. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by safetyboot: 9:17pm On May 25, 2020 |
I KNOW BILL GATES WILL MOVE AGAINST ANY DRUG THAT HAS POTENTIAL OF TREATING COVID-19 BECAUSE OF HIS OWN VACCINE. 'WHO' IS JUST DANCING TO HIS TUNE. 1 Like |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by eyinjuege: 9:22pm On May 25, 2020 |
ndcide: You need to look at the evidence, and don't allow sentiments cloud your logical reasoning. There are certain antiviral drugs used for covid patients, even though they were initially made for other viral diseases. Nigeria has been using these antivirals in their covid patient. I cant remember the specific one Another one Redemsivir for Ebola also has positive clinical conclusion in the clinical trials. When there are safer alternatives that can be monitored, why do you want to use a less safer drug? Why exactly are you particular about chloroquine though? Why do you like it so much and have so much faith in it despite conflicting reports from researchers ? I hope it's not because Trump said he uses it. I can bet it that he has stopped using it by now. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by slowice(m): 9:23pm On May 25, 2020 |
Am beginning to suspect fowl play for the first time... WHO don't want to see an end to this pandemic soon 2 Likes |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by Charity85(m): 9:38pm On May 25, 2020 |
eyinjuege: So which dosage of hydroxychloroquine was used for the trial. Meanwhile both drugs aren't same 1 Like |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by leye4u: 9:44pm On May 25, 2020 |
CoronaVirusPro: Na you be the illiterate....unless you are less than 10 years old.Chloroquine used to be very popular in the treatment of malaria when we were younger,its a simple over the counter drug.Everyone took it then without issues (except for the itching) until we started have some types of malaria that weren't responding to the chloroquine treatment again. So there's nothing deadly about it. No drug would be accepted by WHO as the cure for corona virus. According to the script,only a vaccine would be accepted. 2 Likes |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by blowjohn(m): 9:45pm On May 25, 2020 |
martineverest: Says who? If u give a drug to someone almost at the brink of death, wont the person still die? If uvgive the same drug to someone with mild symptoms ofcos it will work |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by PhantomXcess: 9:45pm On May 25, 2020 |
Funny thing is that the lancet trials did not add zinc to the treatment. In some cases, they only used HCQ/CQ. And they added 50% extra to the recommended dosage. Recommended dosage is 400mg, their trials gave patients 596/7mg. Anything to discredit a cheap drug that has been working for decades. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by michlins(m): 9:45pm On May 25, 2020 |
freshvine:we're so used to doing things the wrong way that even when we see and appreciate a working system,we still hate to participate in it. A Nigerian will see how organized a society like America is, but when you tell them the due process involved, they will tell you it's unnecessary |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by martineverest(m): 9:47pm On May 25, 2020 |
blowjohn:are u better than the researchers?...... |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by eyinjuege: 9:47pm On May 25, 2020 |
Charity85: I'm very sure I read trials were done on both hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine itself. Hydroxychloroquine is a derivative of chloroquine and it has less side effects hence is a safer version of Chloroquine, but nevertheless it still gives these potentially fatal side effects. |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by ndcide(m): 9:50pm On May 25, 2020 |
eyinjuege: Redemsivir use is still deemed experimental just like any other drug being used. Does it have sides effects, yes. Does chloroquine work on the early stages of Covid, Yes. Does it have side effects, yes. There is a pandemic and you claim people are losing their lives , Redemsivir is not readily available for control reasons, yet you dismissed every other alternative even when the positive results are evident. They told the world nothing works. There are renowned experts all over the world who have used chloroquine. I'm not interested in a compromised WHO. 1 Like |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by eyinjuege: 9:51pm On May 25, 2020 |
blowjohn: When you give someone with respiratory compromise from covid chloroquine, you will cause ventricular arrhythmias. A quicker way to cause cardiorespiratory arrest You have reduced his chances of survival by simply giving him the chloroquine. Of course not everyone will have these heart changes, but what are you trying to prove by exposing someone really sick to a potentially fatal side effect? 1 Like |
Re: WHO’s Hydroxychloroquine Trial Suspended Pending Safety Data by blowjohn(m): 10:00pm On May 25, 2020 |
martineverest: Am a scientist. And a doctor too. I dont take everything hook line and sinker |
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