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Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Jay5mie: 7:59am On May 31, 2020
Majority of Christians are not worshiping God because of they love God or have a personal relationship with him, or they love Jesus Christ. They are actually Christians because of the fear of spending eternity in hell. And that's where they all miss the point, becoming hypocrites and pretending all through the journey of life, blaspheming the religion. Imagine we wake up one morning and heard God cancel Hell, you'll will see so many so called Christians in their true colors...for the wolves they truly are.

MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS DON'T LOVE GOD, THEY LIVE IN FEAR!

Christianity shouldn't be a believe of fear, Christianity is love, Christianity is having a Father who cares about you so much.

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Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Kobojunkie: 8:01am On May 31, 2020
Jay5mie:
Majority of Christians are not worshiping God because of they love God or have a personal relationship with him, or they love Jesus Christ. They are actually Christians because of the fear of spending eternity in hell. And that's where they all miss the point, becoming hypocrites and pretending all through the journey of life, blaspheming the religion. Imagine we wake up one morning and heard God cancel Hell, you'll will see so many so called Christians in their true colors...for the wolves they truly are.

MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS DON'T LOVE GOD, THEY LIVE IN FEAR!

Christianity shouldn't be a believe of fear, Christianity is love, Christianity is having a Father who cares about you so much.
What do you mean when you say they do not "love" God? Whose definition of love are you applying here? undecided
What does it mean to worship God? undecided
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by xynerise: 8:09am On May 31, 2020
If you don't love your neighbours that you can see, then you can never love God you can't see.

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Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Nobody: 8:11am On May 31, 2020
I love God and i also live in Fear...
The Fear of God is the beggining of Wisdom.

I have a personal relationship with Christ, He called me a Son of Favour!
What about you?

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Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Dtruthspeaker: 8:18am On May 31, 2020
Jay5mie:
Majority of Christians are not worshiping God because of they love God or have a personal relationship with him, or they love Jesus Christ. They are actually Christians because of the fear of spending eternity in hell. And that's where they all miss the point, becoming hypocrites and pretending all through the journey of life, blaspheming the religion. Imagine we wake up one morning and heard God cancel Hell, you'll will see so many so called Christians in their true colors...for the wolves they truly are.

MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS DON'T LOVE GOD, THEY LIVE IN FEAR!

Christianity shouldn't be a believe of fear, Christianity is love, Christianity is having a Father who cares about you so much.

True and that is because man is not taught to Love.

Parents, teachers, churches, television, the world do not truly teach people How to Love.

They are taught to do the things that "look" like love but are not Love. The world can not teach Pure And Genuine Love.

Which is why the Bible taught us that it is possible to Give (and do many things) Without Loving.

It is God who gives us the Spirit of Love for us to Love. No one can buy it in the market!
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Nobody: 8:21am On May 31, 2020
Jay5mie:
Majority of Christians are not worshiping God because of they love God or have a personal relationship with him, or they love Jesus Christ. They are actually Christians because of the fear of spending eternity in hell. And that's where they all miss the point, becoming hypocrites and pretending all through the journey of life, blaspheming the religion. Imagine we wake up one morning and heard God cancel Hell, you'll will see so many so called Christians in their true colors...for the wolves they truly are.

MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS DON'T LOVE GOD, THEY LIVE IN FEAR!

Christianity shouldn't be a believe of fear, Christianity is love, Christianity is having a Father who cares about you so much.

There is nothing like Hellfire!

The word Hell means Grave, it was originally written as Sheol in Hebrew and Hedes in Greek.

God never had any plans for evildoers, he can't even stand the sight of his creatures experiencing excruciating pains! Jeremiah 7:31; 19:5-6: 32:35

What God wants for us is abundant blessings and everlasting joy {Psalms 37:9-11,29} as for evildoers, their wages is death (non-existence) Romans 6:7,23 compare to Genesis 3:19

The Churches of Christendom borrowed the idea of torment from Babylonian and Grecian philosophies, God's word says you can live forever if you make Jesus your role model but all those who failed to do so will perish (die and return to dust like Adam)! John 3:16

True Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) have LOVE JOY and PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS GENTLENESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL in their midst {Galatians 5 22:23} these are the qualities of God's holy spirit, we love our God and we are ready to prove it to the world, we are NOT doing what we do out of fear of eternal torment but out of LOVE for JEHOVAH our God.

God bless you! smiley

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Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Dtruthspeaker: 8:24am On May 31, 2020
Poloyanabo1:
I love God and i also live in Fear...
The Fear of God is the beggining of Wisdom.

I have a personal relationship with Christ, He called me a Son of Favour!
What about you?

God does not give fear. 2 Timothy 1:7

If you fully Fear God, you would not be able to fear anyone else or anything at all!
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Dtruthspeaker: 8:29am On May 31, 2020
Maximus69:


There is nothing like Hellfire!

The word Hell means Grave, it was originally written as Sheol in Hebrew and Hedes in Greek.

God never had any plans for evildoers, he can't even stand the sight of his creatures experiencing excruciating pains! Jeremiah 7:31; 19:5-6: 32:35

What God wants for us is abundant blessings and everlasting joy {Psalms 37:9-11,29} as for evildoers, their wages is death (non-existence) Romans 6:7,23 compare to Genesis 3:19

The Churches of Christendom borrowed the idea of torment from Babylonian and Grecian philosophies, God's word says you can live forever if you make Jesus your role model but all those who failed to do so will perish (die and return to dust like Adam)! John 3:16

True Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) have LOVE JOY and PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS GENTLENESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL in their midst {Galatians 5 22:23} these are the qualities of God's holy spirit, we love our God and we are ready to prove it to the world, we are NOT doing what we do out of fear of eternal torment but out of LOVE for JEHOVAH our God.

God bless you! smiley




That's why Satan and all Antichrists, like you people very much and would have followed you people, except for the fact that you people often times Fire them with the Bible, which they Hate Very Very Much. And hence their primary goal is to kill the Bible!
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Wolgrace(m): 8:45am On May 31, 2020
Maximus69

Such teaching is a merchant of lie and deception. Hell (hades or sheoul) is underworld of the dead, meaning hopeless and helpless abode. Dead meaning hopeless and helpless soul disconnected from God forever. Jesus Christ is not the God of the dead but of the living. He resurrect those whose names are written in the book of life, meaning those who are His. 2Timothy 2:19. Therefore, body perish with dust particles where it was taken from, but the soul lives forever in heavenly peace or hellish sorrow torments and gnashing of teeth. Your choice but without accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord God, saviour, redeemer, righteousness, and faith, you will miss His kingdom.

Rich man and Lazarus is a typical explanation of the spirit world of the trio-universe, i.e supreme heaven, space heaven, and earth and her underneath. The rich end up in hades of hopelessness, torment, and sorrow while Lazarus in heaven's home of everlasting joy and peace with full liberty and assess blessings.

You have no excuse bro..
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Nobody: 8:46am On May 31, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


That's why Satan and all Antichrists, like you people very much and would have followed you people, except for the fact that you people often times Fire them with the Bible, which they Hate Very Very Much. And hence their primary goal is to kill the Bible!

Thanks Sir.

Can you now refute what the Bible teaches regarding God's holiness?

Because the word HOLY means pure.

It's impossible for someone HOLY to plan EVIL in his heart {Jeremiah 32:35} that's why he often gives his angels instructions to go and examine how Mankind is doing things so that if it's getting out of hand, his angels will exterminate them {Genesis 18:20-21} the holy one of Israel can't stand seeing EVIL {Habakkuk 1:13} so how come you are saying he is harboring such horror at heart for his own creatures whom he made in his image to live in Paradise?

Please if he ends up tormenting this same creatures forever instead of giving the everlasting love he had at heart from the beginning, who is the winner the Holy one whose heart is filled with LOVE {1John 4:8} or Satan whose earth is filled with EVIL things {John 8:44}?

Please repent of this blasphemy today, even the Catholic Church who infused the idea into Christendom creeds have debunked it as a LIE!
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Chiprince007(m): 8:50am On May 31, 2020
The reason is simple. Majority of the ,teachings delivered in church present God as someone angry at the slightest mistake they make. But one of the most popular verse shows God as one that loves "for God so loved the world... " and our response is to accept and love him
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Dtruthspeaker: 8:57am On May 31, 2020
Wolgrace:
Maximus69

Such teaching is a merchant of lie and deception. Hell (hades or sheoul) is underworld of the dead, meaning hopeless and helpless abode. Dead meaning hopeless and helpless soul disconnected from God forever. Jesus Christ is not the God of the dead but of the living. He resurrect those whose names are written in the book of life, meaning those who are His. 2Timothy 2:19. Therefore, body perish with dust particles where it was taken from, but the soul lives forever in heavenly peace or hellish sorrow torments and gnashing of teeth. Your choice but without accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord God, saviour, redeemer, righteousness, and faith, you will miss His kingdom.

Rich man and Lazarus is a typical explanation of the spirit world of the trio-universe, i.e supreme heaven, space heaven, and earth and her underneath. The rich end up in hades of hopelessness, torment, and sorrow while Lazarus in heaven's home of everlasting joy and peace with full liberty and assess blessings.

You have no excuse bro..

Tell them brother but those JW people and maximus69 will never agree to this clear statement.

They would like to think that God will give them what they want in clear defiance of His Word, which He has said Must Be Honoured and Fully Filled!

Well, it is their own Natural Right to choose to Live or to Choose to Die- By Living Forever in Hot Torment
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Wolgrace(m): 8:58am On May 31, 2020
Op, the major reason why many self professed Christians live in fear is because the mystery of the gospel is still hidden to them. Too many teachings encamping round about the mystery of gospel, reason it births fear, lukewarmness, powerlessness, etc..

To love God and live in power (boldness) is to understand the faith, righteousness, and holiness of Jesus Christ as a perfect gift to us. Meaning His birth, baptism, works, punishment, death, resurrection, and promise. If we lack this knowledge, it will be difficult for us to love God, and it leads to fear. Such ignorance leads us to law and condemnation, self righteousness, self help, unbelief, doubt, pretense, hypocrisy, pharisee christianity, spiritual pride, legalism, human doctrice, absence of freedom i.e bondage, etc...

Remember, knowledge is power. HE SAID "LEARN OF ME." Jesus Christ is real.

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Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Nobody: 8:58am On May 31, 2020
Wolgrace:
Maximus69

Such teaching is a merchant of lie and deception. Hell (hades or sheoul) is underworld of the dead, meaning hopeless and helpless abode. Dead meaning hopeless and helpless soul disconnected from God forever. Jesus Christ is not the God of the dead but of the living. He resurrect those whose names are written in the book of life, meaning those who are His. 2Timothy 2:19. Therefore, body perish with dust particles where it was taken from, but the soul lives forever in heavenly peace or hellish sorrow torments and gnashing of teeth. Your choice but without accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord God, saviour, redeemer, righteousness, and faith, you will miss His kingdom.

Rich man and Lazarus is a typical explanation of the spirit world of the trio-universe, i.e supreme heaven, space heaven, and earth and her underneath. The rich end up in hades of hopelessness, torment, and sorrow while Lazarus in heaven's home of everlasting joy and peace with full liberty and assess blessings.

You have no excuse bro..

You only need to study your Bible diligently Sir!

Lazarus and the rich man wasn't a true life story, but a Parable (illustration)! Matthew 13:13,34

To help you further, please make use of your Bible to answer these questions:-

What good did Lazarus do to merit the blessing?

What evil did the rich man do to be blamed.

Is it a crime to be rich?

Is it a blessing to be a beggar?

Lazarus DESIRE to be fed with what is falling from the rich man's table, note that the illustrations never said the rich man kept Lazarus in the condition but that Lazarus DESIRE that condition!

So why did he desire such condition?

Would you wish your life to be like that of Lazarus literally?

Just ask for the interpretation of that Parable and we will teach you! Matthew 7:7 smiley
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Nobody: 9:07am On May 31, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Tell them brother but those JW people and maximus69 will never agree to this clear statement.

They would like to think that God will give them what they want in clear defiance of His Word, which He has said Must Be Honoured and Fully Filled!

Well, it is their own Natural Right to choose to Live or to Choose to Die- By Living Forever in Hot Torment

Clear statement that's based on man-made doctrines and traditions!

Please quote God's word and substantiate with reasonings not just what your Pastors infused in your brains!

I was a Muslim and the teaching of Hellfire goes down well with Muslims too, but the fact remains that it's Hellfire adherents who lacks FAITH in doing God's work with zeal and industriousness whereas Jehovah's Witnesses who doesn't hold such opinion are doing the work Jesus ordered during both rain and sunshine! Matthew 10:3-15, 24:14, 28:19-20

So ask yourself "what is the purpose of the faith you have when there is no work to show for it?" James 2:18-26 smiley
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Dtruthspeaker: 9:07am On May 31, 2020
Maximus69:


Thanks Sir.

Can you now refute what the Bible teaches regarding God's holiness?

Because the word HOLY means pure.

It's impossible for someone HOLY to plan EVIL in his heart {Jeremiah 32:35} that's why he often gives his angels instructions to go and examine how Mankind is doing things so that if it's getting out of hand, his angels will exterminate them {Genesis 18:20-21} the holy one of Israel can't stand seeing EVIL {Habakkuk 1:13} so how come you are saying he is harboring such horror at heart for his own creatures whom he made in his image to live in Paradise?

Please if he ends up tormenting this same creatures forever instead of giving the everlasting love he had at heart from the beginning, who is the winner the Holy one whose heart is filled with LOVE {1John 4:8} or Satan whose earth is filled with EVIL things {John 8:44}?

Please repent of this blasphemy today, even the Catholic Church who infused the idea into Christendom creeds have debunked it as a LIE!

I Refute and answer: Holiness means Pureness (as you said), So also is His JUDGMENT PURE and It Shall Always be PURE.

As it is Written, A Good Tree Always bears Good Fruits. Pawpaw must bear pawpaw, mango-mango.

So Also, Holiness Must Bear Holiness. And since the Most High is Holy, JUDGMENT, being His Fruit, Must and Must Always be, Holy!
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Daejoyoung: 9:11am On May 31, 2020
Wolgrace:
Maximus69

Such teaching is a merchant of lie and deception. Hell (hades or sheoul) is underworld of the dead, meaning hopeless and helpless abode. Dead meaning hopeless and helpless soul disconnected from God forever. Jesus Christ is not the God of the dead but of the living. He resurrect those whose names are written in the book of life, meaning those who are His. 2Timothy 2:19. Therefore, body perish with dust particles where it was taken from, but the soul lives forever in heavenly peace or hellish sorrow torments and gnashing of teeth. Your choice but without accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord God, saviour, redeemer, righteousness, and faith, you will miss His kingdom.

Rich man and Lazarus is a typical explanation of the spirit world of the trio-universe, i.e supreme heaven, space heaven, and earth and her underneath. The rich end up in hades of hopelessness, torment, and sorrow while Lazarus in heaven's home of everlasting joy and peace with full liberty and assess blessings.

You have no excuse bro..
Richman and Lazarus is not a good example of hell in the bible( if there be any example of such at all). Even if you accept it to be an example of the existence of hell, did the rich man go there because he didn't accept jesus as his lord and saviour( like many pastors would have you believe) or because of his deeds?
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Nobody: 9:20am On May 31, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


I Refute and answer: Holiness means Pureness (as you said), So also is His JUDGMENT PURE and It Shall Always be PURE.

As it is Written, A Good Tree Always bears Good Fruits. Pawpaw must bear pawpaw, mango-mango.

So Also, Holiness Must Bear Holiness. And since the Most High is Holy, JUDGMENT, being His Fruit, Must and Must Always be, Holy!


Please what has this got to do with keeping creatures made in God's image in excruciating torment
not for a day,
not for a month,
not for a year
not even for the life time of the offender perhaps to equate his sin but for all eternity? embarassed
Even humans only kill criminals who commits horrible crimes or give them life sentence, at least to keep them away from others.
So can you explain what is holy in the idea of giving a criminal a punishment that's unimaginably to expensive due to the crime he committed for a life time? embarassed

Remember that even this so called evildoers don't do what you call evil throughout their lifetime! There are times they often make people happy, and what about someone who only refused to accept Jesus but lived all his/her life doing what he/she feels is good? undecided

Sorry Sir, there is practically no scriptural backings for a holy God to stoop so low!

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Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Dtruthspeaker: 9:25am On May 31, 2020
Maximus69:


Clear statement that's based on man-made doctrines and traditions!

Please quote God's word and substantiate with reasonings not just what your Pastors infused in your brains!

I was a Muslim and the teaching of Hellfire goes down well with Muslims too, but the fact remains that it's Hellfire adherents who lacks FAITH in doing God's work with zeal and industriousness whereas Jehovah's Witnesses who doesn't hold such opinion are doing the work Jesus ordered during both rain and sunshine! Matthew 10:3-15, 24:14, 28:19-20

So ask yourself "what is the purpose of the faith you have when there is no work to show for it?" James 2:18-26 smiley

Which question would you want me to answer; 1) Proof of Death by Living in Very Hot Torment Forever? Answer Revelations 20: From verses 13-15. And Revelations 21:8.

2) Proof of my work in and for God? grin, sorry man, my work is of no concern of yours, for You would not be the one to mark or grade it, whether I pass or I fail.

It is between me and My Creator, My Examiner.
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by MuttleyLaff: 9:28am On May 31, 2020
Wolgrace:
Maximus69

Such teaching is a merchant of lie and deception. Hell (hades or sheoul) is underworld of the dead, meaning hopeless and helpless abode. Dead meaning hopeless and helpless soul disconnected from God forever. Jesus Christ is not the God of the dead but of the living. He resurrect those whose names are written in the book of life, meaning those who are His. 2Timothy 2:19. Therefore, body perish with dust particles where it was taken from, but the soul lives forever in heavenly peace or hellish sorrow torments and gnashing of teeth. Your choice but without accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord God, saviour, redeemer, righteousness, and faith, you will miss His kingdom.

Rich man and Lazarus is a typical explanation of the spirit world of the trio-universe, i.e supreme heaven, space heaven, and earth and her underneath. The rich end up in hades of hopelessness, torment, and sorrow while Lazarus in heaven's home of everlasting joy and peace with full liberty and assess blessings.

You have no excuse bro..

Daejoyoung:
Richman and Lazarus is not a good example of hell in the bible( if there be any example of such at all). Even if you accept it to be an example of the existence of hell, did the rich man go there because he didn't accept jesus as his lord and saviour( like many pastors would have you believe) or because of his deeds?
With all due respect brother, the parable of the Richman and Lazarus is one of the best example of hell the state of Sheol in the bible. Notice that I struck off hell. I struck off hell, because it isn't a Jewish concept but rather has more to do with Greek mythology

Daejoyoung:
... did the rich man go there because he didn't accept Jesus as his Lord and Saviour( like many pastors would have you believe) or because of his deeds?
"32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,
36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?
39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,
43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
"
- Matthew 25:32-46

The rich man ended up in that other side of Sheol and not the side that Lazarus was at because he led an ostentatious Champagne life and one such that had no compassion, empathy nor caring for others.
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Nobody: 9:32am On May 31, 2020
Daejoyoung:

Richman and Lazarus is not a good example of hell in the bible( if there be any example of such at all). Even if you accept it to be an example of the existence of hell, did the rich man go there because he didn't accept jesus as his lord and saviour( like many pastors would have you believe) or because of his deeds?

I wonder what is happening to people today!

Someone says something that needs clarification using God's word but instead misinformed churchgoers will start arguing based on what their greedy Pastors infused in their brains to instill fear in their hearts so that they keep bringing all their means of livelihood for their greedy Pastors to enrich his own pockets!

I watched a video last time when the General Overseer of Redeem said those who failed to pay their tithes will not go to heaven, in other words they will go to Hellfire!

That's the prank! 2Timothy 4:3-4 undecided
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Kobojunkie: 9:35am On May 31, 2020
Daejoyoung:

Richman and Lazarus is not a good example of hell in the bible( if there be any example of such at all). Even if you accept it to be an example of the existence of hell, did the rich man go there because he didn't accept jesus as his lord and saviour( like many pastors would have you believe) or because of his deeds?
Well, because He was not a follower of Christ(the process is nothing like the pastors would have you believe), and his unrighteous deeds. grin
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Dtruthspeaker: 9:39am On May 31, 2020
Maximus69:

Please what has this got to do with keeping creatures made in God's image in excruciating torment
not for a day,
not for a month,
not for a year
not even for the life time of the offender perhaps to equate his sin but for all eternity? embarassed
Even humans only kill criminals who commits horrible crimes or give them life sentence, at least to keep them away from others.
So can you explain what is holy in the idea of giving a criminal a punishment that's unimaginably to expensive due to the crime he committed for a life time? embarassed

Remember that even this so called evildoers don't do what you call evil throughout their lifetime! There are times they often make people happy, and what about someone who only refused to accept Jesus but lived all his/her life doing what he/she feels is good? undecided

Sorry Sir, there is practically no scriptural backings for a holy God to stoop so low!

That is why even the Angels of God SHOUTED, Woe! WOe!! WOE!!! to the people on earth, for more Deadly Beginnings of Judgements were still coming to man!

That's the Power of Every Judgement! It crushes lesser things!
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Nobody: 9:43am On May 31, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Which question would you want me to answer; 1) Proof of Death by Living in Very Hot Torment Forever? Answer Revelations 20: From verses 13-15. And Revelations 21:8.

2) Proof of my work in and for God? grin, sorry man, my work is of no concern of yours, for You would not be the one to mark or grade it, whether I pass or I fail.

It is between me and My Creator, My Examiner.


Revelations is what Jesus revealed to John (Apostle) it is not to be understood literally, otherwise you have to explain all the symbols mentioned in the Bible book to prove you know what was written their!

Do you want me to list symbolic features mentioned in that book whether you can explain what they represent (mean)?

Well people will be resurrected back from the dead, they will be given the privilege to exercise faith in Jesus (which majority of mankind never had the opportunity) those who accept Jesus will be given the antidote of death so they can continue live forever but those who still rejects Jesus' teaching by then will be destroyed for God. That's the import of Revelations 20:13-15

But instead of blindly arguing, why not go back to the beginning and think of what God told Adam the first and foremost sinner {Romans 5:12} whose sin brought suffering, sickness and death upon the human race? Genesis 3:19

God told Adam "you will return to dust" so will Adam (the first sinner) be tormented forever or return to non-existence? undecided
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Nobody: 9:47am On May 31, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


That is why even the Angels of God SHOUTED, Woe! WOe!! WOE!!! to the people on earth, for more Deadly Beginnings of Judgements were still coming to man!

That's the Power of Every Judgement! It crushes lesser things!

You have not explained how the holy God who sentenced Adam the first sinner to death as in return to dust {Genesis 3:19} now resolved to keeping Adam's descendants in a place of torment for all eternity Sir!
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Daejoyoung: 10:02am On May 31, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


That is why even the Angels of God SHOUTED, Woe! WOe!! WOE!!! to the people on earth, for more Deadly Beginnings of Judgements were still coming to man!

That's the Power of Every Judgement! It crushes lesser things!




Is that judgement to you? shouldn't judgement be just? shouldn't the God of all the earth do right? how is keeping people in fire for all eternity ( not even a trillion years) for one lie they told just before they died, be just? does it make any sense to you?
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:03am On May 31, 2020
Maximus69:


Revelations is what Jesus revealed to John (Apostle) it is not to be understood literally, otherwise you have to explain all the symbols mentioned in the Bible book to prove you know what was written their!

Do you want me to list symbolic features mentioned in that book whether you can explain what they represent (mean)?

Well people will be resurrected back from the dead, they will be given the privilege to exercise faith in Jesus (which majority of mankind never had the opportunity) those who accept Jesus will be given the antidote of death so they can continue live forever but those who still rejects Jesus' teaching by then will be destroyed for God. That's the import of Revelations 20:13-15

But instead of blindly arguing, why not go back to the beginning and think of what God told Adam the first and foremost sinner {Romans 5:12} whose sin brought suffering, sickness and death upon the human race? Genesis 3:19

God told Adam "you will return to dust" so will Adam (the first sinner) be tormented forever or return to non-existence? undecided

My Misled Fellow, you obviously have not received the memo that God has since changed the plan. For Adam and ALL WORLD and the God's Plan, died with Adam and the World, Then.

A New World and New Plan was made for Man and Noah is now our Adam. All the former things you are standing on were washed away with the old world And Fresh Instructions were thereafter, Given by God and MODIFIED, CHANGED, AMENDED MANY THINGS. Which till today Remain. Genesis 9: 1-7.

So Genesis 3: 19 is Gone Forever, Now it is LAKE OF FIRE!
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Wolgrace(m): 10:10am On May 31, 2020
Daejoyoung:

Richman and Lazarus is not a good example of hell in the bible( if there be any example of such at all). Even if you accept it to be an example of the existence of hell, did the rich man go there because he didn't accept jesus as his lord and saviour( like many pastors would have you believe) or because of his deeds?

Op and Maximus69 It is not a parable but a reality story before His mission on earth. Meaning Jesus Christ is the same omnipotent, omniscience, and omnipresence God yesterday, today, and forever who sees all activities of men on earth. His narration of the story is to reveal His omnipresence divinity as a divine accountant, hence he chose the rich man and Lazarus' scenerio to account their works. However, Lazarus was saved by grace of Christ. Remember, it was after His death, many who died in faith and hope on God's promise (not deeds or works or human righteousness) were resurrected with Him into the kingdom, Lazarus inclusive. You're inexcusable
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Daejoyoung: 10:19am On May 31, 2020
Wolgrace:


Op and Maximus69 It is not a parable but a reality story before His mission on earth. Meaning Jesus Christ is the same omnipotent, omniscience, and omnipresence God yesterday, today, and forever who sees all activities of men on earth. His narration of the story is to reveal His omnipresence divinity as a divine accountant, hence he chose the rich man and Lazarus' scenerio to account their works. However, Lazarus was saved by grace of Christ. Remember, it was after His death, many who died in faith and hope on God's promise (not deeds or works or human righteousness) were resurrected with Him into the kingdom, Lazarus inclusive. You're inexcusable
If Lazarus is a true story, then answer these simple questions for me:
1) With what tongue was Lazarus expecting to taste water with in hell fire? One would think that he only has his spirit in hell and he is without a body, do spirits have tongues?
2) If you are in hell fire, burning literally in great flames and you happen to see father Abraham, what would be your first request? would it be for a tip of water in your tongue?
3) What is the purpose of this so called true life story? was jesus telling them to become like poor Lazarus in order to enter Abraham's bosom?
4) ls Abraham's bosom heaven? lf yes, would you as a Nigerian Christian go to Abraham's bosom?
5) You say lazarus was saved by grace of christ, how do you know this? and where was that indicated in the story?
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Dtruthspeaker: 10:22am On May 31, 2020
Daejoyoung:

Is that judgement to you? shouldn't judgement be just? shouldn't the God of all the earth do right? how is keeping people in fire for all eternity ( not even a trillion years) for one lie they told just before they died, be just? does it make any sense to you?

What! angry
You who does not know what rightness and justice and Judgement is wants to DICTATE to your Creator, Who Gave you these things?

Can your children in Your house Teach You and Instruct You, what Righteousness and Justice and Judgement is?

From whom shall they learn it from, if not from You or from another You? Certainly not from their fellow children!
Re: Majority Of Christians Don't Love God, They Live In Fear! by Daejoyoung: 10:27am On May 31, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


What! angry
You who does not know what rightness and justice and Judgement is wants to DICTATE to your Creator, Who Gave you these things?

Can your children in Your house Teach You and Instruct You, what Righteousness and Justice and Judgement is?



I am asking you as a human who believe this is what the creator would do, from your own God given human conscience, is it just to you? Or didn't God give you a conscience to differentiate what could be right and wrong? or is God a dictator who cannot be questioned?
If it was God's intention not to be questioned by humans, then surely he would have made humans robots.

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