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|Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 12:22am On Jun 11, 2020|
Then there is something greater than your god, a contradiction still.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Eviana(f): 12:26am On Jun 11, 2020|
I wasn't calling you the enemy.
I was speaking in general about the confusion that has occured on the thread and who's behind it....hence Ephesians 6.
However, you are allowing the enemy to use you and keep you bound.
I must speak the truth to you.
Sir, if I thought you were a lost cause, I would've never told you about praying.
It's just that you won't seek the Lord for yourself...you won't accept anything that goes opposite to your own thoughts.
You are stuck & your heart has hardened tremendously.
You, sir, don't have forever & ever to make a choice.
You need to go to a private, quiet place and seek the Lord (humbly as a child)..It is HE who will answer you.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Finallydead: 12:28am On Jun 11, 2020|
LordReed:Not greater, but His ultimate Match, He can never overcome. That something is His very own state of being, His identity and definition. Behold, it is His very Self.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 8:40am On Jun 11, 2020|
Greater since he cannot change it or manipulate it, it supersedes him. You say your god raised Jesus from the dead, yet you still say your god cannot kill himself and resurrect. Clearly your god is a bag of contradictions.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 8:47am On Jun 11, 2020|
You implied it by saying I worship Satan. In the old days such an accusation would get the accused killed. This is how you frame up your opposition to put them in the enemy camp so that you can loose empathy for them. If an atheist dies under awful circumstances you then hear Christians say things like god punished him.
Also it's a set up for when your prayer doesn't produce the desired results then you can say Satan has him in his grip.
These are very familiar tactics used over and over again by Christians because they refuse to acknowledge reality.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Eviana(f): 11:33am On Jun 11, 2020|
This will be my last reply to you on this because this is becoming a distraction & unfruitful.
Please let me make myself very clear.
You may not be worshiping satan (in your mind).
I do not know your definition of "worship".
However, you have made it very plain that you hate the God of Abraham, Isaac & Israel.
You do....frame it whichever way you'd like.
There are only (2) choices: God or satan.
You are either on one side or the other...point blank period.
What you (and many others) have done here on Nairaland religion section for a specific religious group...represents the work of the enemy.
You can insult and castigate me until you leave this planet but that is the truth.
What I have said, based on many threads of yours that I have read over my almost "4' year stay on this site, says that you are bound by satan.
I cannot make any choice for you.
I am hoping that you will choose life, that's all.
I have compassion for you particularly based on a conversation with you about 1 and 1/2 years ago. It's quite clear that you are deeply hurt.
However, I don't speak for every Christian because as you can see, some of us vary on many different ideologies. I speak plainly from the Bible..the words that I have read.
I am not accusing you of anything falsely.
Lord knows I understand the results of slander/false accusations all too well.
This is about your soul....God is trying to reach you...just as He did for me.
He is no respector of persons.
If you reject Him enough times though, He will finally leave you alone. He does not force. You are grieving His spirit....meaning continually pushing Him away.
I implore you to stop expecting followers of Christ to do for you, what only the Lord, Himself, can do.
We are not your savior.
We are mere fallible, humans persevering on this Christian journey (in this challenging world..looking towards our author and finisher Christ because we have chosen to believe by faith. We have an expectation...
The difference between "us" and "you" is that we have accepted Him.
He's calling you now.
My prayer for you continues...
May you surrender and have final peace.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Eviana(f): 11:34am On Jun 11, 2020|
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Julivas(m): 1:05pm On Jun 12, 2020|
Yeah, satan won't get away with it because he will definitely end in the lake of fire.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by sonmvayina(m): 4:03pm On Jun 12, 2020|
So why was he created in the first place?... A mistake of creation of some sort...
Hmm, you sincerely don't know God.. You and the op.. The is just a pity..
For the last time.. There is no such thing as Satan.. Whatever happens whether good or bad, God is solely responsible... Nothing happens without his OK..
Got it now?
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 2:08pm On Jun 18, 2020|
sonmvayina:Instead of using strong tones, you need to explain why you are sure Satan doesn't exist. It may be appropriate to open a thread and explain explicitly why you think Satan does not exist. I am really interested in your opinion. You know we are all taught in elementary and high schools about Satan in Nigeria. I think both Islam and Chriatianity support it that Satan exists. Please, share your view on your thread why you are sure Satan does not exist. I am really interested to read your views.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 2:14pm On Jun 18, 2020|
Thank you for your post. I have questions for you if you do not mind. Honestly, this world needs healing. Ebola, laser fever, Covid-19, rape cases, rapture, tribulation, Nigerian scams, western world and supremacy, WHO and propaganda, confusing in Nigeria, bad governance, Nigerian youths think the right way is scam, etc. Please, ccan I ask you questions here?
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 2:21pm On Jun 18, 2020|
I do not think OP implied you worshipped Satan. You actually raised vital points here, and no one has been able to answer you. It is just obvious.
Brother, I do not know you but I can feel that you are disappointed. You feel betrayed. I can feel you. I am trying to get your point. At what point did you really decide to hold on to the view that there is no God or god? What happened. Please share your story. It will really help.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 2:40pm On Jun 18, 2020|
Read the below
Tell me what you understand by that statement.
LoL! Disappointed by fairy tales? You are making me laugh. The only thing that makes me upset in this whole thing is I willingly believed in this nonsense for donkey years, I blame no one but myself.
As for what made me realize that a caring god is a comforting fiction, you only have to look around you and ask yourself if a caring god is really at the root of this uncaring universe. Do you really think a caring god allowed 6million Jews to be exterminated or 70million people to die in a senseless war. Do you really think a caring god watches 9 million people die every year of hunger and hunger related diseases. I don't say there is no god but a caring god is a fiction and I don't believe in such a god. Maybe there is a god and it is a highly malicious one, indeed the holy books of Abrahamic religions are good in depicting their god as a malicious one.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Finallydead: 3:59pm On Jun 18, 2020|
Forgness:I really am interested in knowing what vital points he raised that were not sufficiently dealt with. Did you read through the thread at all?
Please outline carefully these "obvious" points.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 5:32pm On Jun 18, 2020|
Instead of I to list out the "obvious" points you do not see, I prefer you state explicitly why you are 100% convinced there is a living God. Convince people with real proofs. Share your personal testimony why LordReed should return to Christ. Make him see how this God you proclaim is. Show His goodness. I cannot see it in all your posts. You just keep arguing and going from one useless points to dead ends. No one will take such serious. Therefore, convince us all you know this God you are promoting.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Finallydead: 5:45pm On Jun 18, 2020|
Forgness:Show some courtesy when you talk to strangers. Did I ever tell you I'm here to convince him. This thread was not created by him and I stated exactly why I lent my answers in case you missed it, go back and read. They will do for those who they are meant for.
I did not come all the way here to convince one about God or make one return to Christ. The knowledge I lend here will help many believers grow and avoid pitfalls of Satan so you should be ashamed and sorry to judge them useless. I warn you to be careful with your words. We speak the wisdom of God among the mature(1Cor2:6-7).
Now you who are here to do the convincing, get on with it. The standard btw for convincing is not human logic and words but the power of the Spirit. So with the Hosts of Heaven, we wait and hope you succeed.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 5:55pm On Jun 18, 2020|
Do not take it personal. I get you. The writer will apologize to you. I know why I said so. No one who has experienced deep love of God will not apologize. To preach Christ is hard at times. It is my opinion. She cares about you from her words. But you too were hard on her. Lol. You know it too. Maybe you are right with your points. Just know that to pass a message across properly, the messenger must endure what I call persecution. Both of you are passing across messages to each other, yet you are hurting yourselves. This should not be the case. Please bro, try to be easy on the lady too. Lol. Yeah, I get you.
Bro, I pray for a world where we all live in harmony regardless of our religion. No one understands you better than yourself. I understand you were disappointed. I was too and still in certain areas, but you need to check again. I am talking to you like someone who has passed through the phase you are presently.
You know where you need to go to. Return to Ecclesiastes sir. Everything is meaningless. That was where I returned. In fact, these useless preachers and fake pastors and imams are not making everything look good.
Bro, I want to ask you. Let us leave a "caring" god aside. What really went wrong? Religion, Islam, Christinity and atheism are personal. You know it too. You don't treat religion with general statements and logic if you want to experience the truth. Can I ask you again. What really went wrong?
Let me tell you mine. I pursued a cause which I know I was qualified for and Nigerians use dubious ways to be more qualified than me. And I could not get it. I was almost tempted to go the Hushpuppi way cos I am a tech tech person. I prayed, fasted, praised God, and believed Him for a miracle, but nothing happened. Even till date. But I still have a testimony. There are evidences I cannot even explain that made me not cross to the other side. You crossed...lol.
Bro, tell me exactly the moment you decided to say "damn this god". Why am I saying it. Are you sure it is God you are disappointed in? Or humans?
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 6:16pm On Jun 18, 2020|
I love you brother. Read the bolded statement in your post. At times, it is good to push people to the wall. I pushed you. But you are trying to convince many by debating. If you understand the power of God, you won't. I know why I said Eviana will apologize at a point to LordReed cos I see evidences that she is deep. I do not know if she understands deeply intercession, but she mentioned praying for people. Where I disagreed with her is the point LordReed made above. You don't tell me I worship Satan and I want to listen to you. Some preach the gospel and yeĺl that their listeners are going to hell if they do not follow them. Lol.
Imagine, LordReed is still concerned Eviana said he worshipped Satan. Don't you guys get it? It means his upbringing still has influence on him. The moment you tell him he worships Satan and he laughs at you lovingly is when he has fully accepted there is nothing like God or god, and satan. Instead, try to listen to his story and learn from it. But you cannot still prove to us that God exists. Even you said it that you will not. So, why speak with authority? Let me see the fruits and evidences in you. I can still see the fruits here. LordReeds speaks with respect to Eviana in this thread and vice versa, meaning they are still good and can relate with each other anytime. Just wait. You will see maturity soon in this thread.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 6:31pm On Jun 18, 2020|
Do you not get it, nothing was wrong. Everything was going well. I was just made the head of my department, my marriage was good and my wife was pregnant with a baby we had been looking forward to for 3years. I had no reason to "blame god" for anything, if anything I should have been praising god but the reality of this life blossomed like a flower before my very eyes and I immediately knew I had been deceiving myself. Since I became an atheist my life has taken no dramatic turns, its still the usual twists and turns but I face life with a sense of joy and calm that I did not have as a Christian, no way I am going to slave myself to any type of religion after this, this is liberation right here. No gods, devils or angels are on my mind, how would I leave that and return to stories and fables? For what?
|Re: Snares Of Satan by sonmvayina(m): 6:32pm On Jun 18, 2020|
I dont see how he affects tye equation given the fact that the will of God prevails all the time.if god says yes..nobody can say No and if God Says no, nobody can say yes..so why introduce a factor that has no effect on the final outcome..my maths tellsme,it is =0.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by sonmvayina(m): 6:35pm On Jun 18, 2020|
See my thread titled "the devil unmasked"
|Re: Snares Of Satan by LordReed(m): 6:50pm On Jun 18, 2020|
You have the wrong idea, I am not in the least bit concerned. I just think it's in poor taste when you have nothing more to say to end a polite discussion with "you worship Satan" or "you are going to hell".
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 7:01pm On Jun 18, 2020|
Which maths? I do not get you. Using maths, under which law can we say God says yes, and it is so. I do not think there is God in maths. Or am I wrong?
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jun 18, 2020|
sonmvayina:Maybe you still need to elaborate more. But please, I need you do it without forcing people to take your opinion. I read the thread and what I read was a short self acclaimed sentences without much info. I am just realistic here. You mentioned- Devil is the moon and the rest. No references, no logical explanation, no concised pattern. They were just your words. If they are true words, you need to write them out clearly and make us all understand you well.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 7:21pm On Jun 18, 2020|
Congrats. Waooo! Please, allow me to say God bless you and your family. Please, say amen even you do not not believe in it. Lol. At least, it's a way we greet each other in Nigeria. I am truly happy for you.
Your life should not take any dramatic step. Trust me. I have gone deep in this subject and still learning. That you believe in God or not should not make you achieve less. Nigeria is poor. It's simple as ABC. And people are deceived. When poverty is removed from the equation, we start seeing light. I tell you this: almost 100% of those who claim to worship in the spirit on sundays are potential scammers or public fund looters. People worship God because they lack. And funny, they donate the little they have to deceivers who are richer than them believing in stupidity. It is simple as ABC: the more dishonest Nigerians are, and the more politians loot money, the poorer we will be. Solution is to vote them out. But the same poor people sell their votes for N500 (just above $2) during elections. Yet, they call God to save them after doing their votes for N500. Ignorancy.
But I think God is deeper than that.
LordReed:I agree with you, it is in poor taste.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 7:34pm On Jun 18, 2020|
I guess LordReed deserves an apology for saying he worships Satan. You may not truly mean it that way. I understand you, but if you really want your prayers to be effective, you need to address the issue. Trust me, it is the right way to go. I observed you stopped the conversation here when the interjections came in. If I were you, I would ask God the right way to deal with the issue. It was an opportunity to minister to many. I dont claim to know all but I know His way is that you don't use your brain to unravel or explain things you cannot prove.
How can you explain your own conversion? How can you explain why you believe so much in what you preach? I like your approach which is praying for people, but you do not do God's work by deciding when to stop being nice or preaching cos you think the opinion of others have polluted your message. No. Ask for wisdom to relate to all.
Don't let this discourage you. Your messages are well received by many. I am blessed with your messages, though you may not know. I am saying this to encourage you.
Lastly, there is a reason you are holding on to God. You aren't in a poor country, so the issue of poverty leading you to religion is out of the equation. One love!
|Re: Snares Of Satan by sonmvayina(m): 1:23pm On Jun 19, 2020|
You are not following... Employ common sense..
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Finallydead: 7:58pm On Jun 19, 2020|
Forgness:I'll take it you have good intentions and a perspective but you have a few things still to understand.
First off, I wasn't pushed to the wall by you, not even by a centimetre. I'm in the same place I've been throughout this thread. Rather, you broke a spiritual protocol and crossed a line and you had to be warned to be careful about that for future purposes.
Second, like I said, I'm not trying to convince any particular person. That's why I didn't respond to his last quote which was needless since my target, the genuine inquirers would have been satisfied. Maybe that's your mission here and maybe you're here to prove to someone that God exists. I'm not. But I only demonstrate the reality of the spiritual realm to build brothers and I don't come on a thread to do that but only in real life. I make sure I teach the Word also because I understand it's importance.
I only took advantage of his great questions to give believers understanding. Remember he hijacked a believer's thread?
So go through my posts again and you will see that. In fact, if you do so carefully you will learn things for building your own faith and forget about the one whose questions I quoted because I addressed it to believers but I guess you're yet to do that.
Third, I'm caught by your assertion that knowing the power of God will stop you from needing to present the wisdom of God/ word of truth. Totally wrong. Don't know if at all, how much and for how long you've known the power but maybe when you walk in the power of God long enough and press deeper in prayer, God may show you the need to also have the word of truth ready at hand. I say this, as one having greatly explored the manifestations of the Spirit and power for years. The one thing I'm against though is the word from those who haven't walked in the reality and without a proof of its reality.
A minister of God must be fully armed in word and power(2Cor6:4,7, Acts6:3)
Again, go back and read the text I gave you in 1Cor2. You come to sinners preaching in demonstration of the Spirit and power(v1-5) but amongst mature believers who are already fully convinced in faith, you may simply explain the wisdom of God according to revelation(v6-7, 13-15, Heb5:12-14) for those who will receive. Else all the apostles' epistles are useless using your logic.
One more thing, she is not wrong that he is worshipping Satan indirectly and unconsciously because it's either God or Satan. That doesn't make him an immoral or vile person. He may in fact be very courteous and benign.
You seem to wanna depend on psychology but if you understand and depend on the power of God, you wouldn't need caution speaking truth because the power will still overcome him if it gets to work regardless of his being turned off by that.
Love you too, brother.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jun 19, 2020|
I am just curious how effective it is to yell at someone you are preaching to that the person is going to hell, or that the person serves devil. I would rather allow God be the judge. Neither did Christ tell the tax collector he worshipped demon nor did he tell Mary such after casting out demons from her. I am going to do what He says. When you preach to them and they dont listen, dust your feet and leave.
@Eviana, i have read your comment where you mentioned me. I did not come here to oppose you. I was not happy you abandoned this thread cos someone who doesn't share your opinion started posting on your thread. I felt it was an opportunity to share more that you know. To show you I meant no harm, I am leaving your thread in peace ma. Please, kindly forgive me if you are offended. It was not intentional. I just have many questions I want to ask you, but it is not necessary anymore. And thank you for adding me also to your prayer list. Since you have added me, I need you do something ma. Please, add our country also. Interceed for the youths of this nation and for the politicians too. Nigeria is sinking daily. Ma'am, I leave your thread in peace. No more post from me. I will avoid posting on your threads. Staying far away.
I wish you all the best.
|Re: Snares Of Satan by Tohsynetita1: 1:35am On Jun 20, 2020|
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|Re: Snares Of Satan by Eviana(f): 9:54pm On Jun 20, 2020|
All the while Jesus was at Jerusalem during the feast He was shadowed by spies. Day after day new schemes to silence Him were tried. The priests and rulers were watching to entrap Him. They were planning to stop Him by violence. But this was not all. They wanted to humble this Galilean rabbi before the people.
On the first day of His presence at the feast, the rulers had come to Him, demanding by what authority He taught. They wished to divert attention from Him to the question of His right to teach, and thus to their own importance and authority.
"My teaching is not Mine," said Jesus, "but His that sent Me. If any man willeth to do His will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it be of God, or whether I speak from Myself." John 7:16, 17, R. V. The question of these cavilers Jesus met, not by answering the cavil, but by opening up truth vital to the salvation of the soul. The perception and appreciation of truth, He said, depends less upon the mind than upon the heart.
Truth must be received into the soul; it claims the homage of the will. If truth could be submitted to the reason alone, pride would be no hindrance in the way of its reception. But it is to be received through the work of grace in the heart; and its reception depends upon the renunciation of every sin that the Spirit of God reveals.
Man's advantages for obtaining a knowledge of the truth, however great these may be, will prove of no benefit to him unless the heart is open to receive  the truth, and there is a conscientious surrender of every habit and practice that is opposed to its principles. To those who thus yield themselves to God, having an honest desire to know and to do His will, the truth is revealed as the power of God for their salvation. These will be able to distinguish between him who speaks for God, and him who speaks merely from himself.
The Pharisees had not put their will on the side of God's will.
They were not seeking to know the truth, but to find some excuse for evading it; Christ showed that this was why they did not understand His teaching
...Those who are forward in accusing others, and zealous in bringing them to justice, are often in their own lives more guilty than they. Men hate the sinner, while they love the sin. Christ hates the sin, but loves the sinner. This will be the spirit of all who follow Him.
The Desire of Ages
Chapter 50- "Among Snares"
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