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Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 3:56am On Feb 01, 2011 |
why do so many people feel its ok to just start raining curses and insults on others simply because they're not as old as them? is this a form of madness, or do we blame the visa officer who gave them a visa. africans who were actually born overseas do not act this way in general, so it's very puzzling when the ones who came from the motherland, display this trait. and they teach others to do the same. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by PhysicsMHD(m): 5:42am On Feb 01, 2011 |
We're you insulted and humiliated recently? Is this your way of releasing steam? 1 Like |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 5:46am On Feb 01, 2011 |
^^it's amazing the way you people project on others. i observed something and posted my observation, that's all. now, where is insult and humiliation coming from, besides your own mind? and why are you so eager to see someone insulted and humiliated? seriously, i try to understand your sick minds. it's difficult, but i can only assume your mindset has something to do with your past. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 5:47am On Feb 01, 2011 |
anyway!! kindly answer the question or else vamoose if you cant. always seeing insults and looking for offence. Disrespecting elders is very unafrican- correct me if i'm wrong!!!! maybe things are different in your own area? |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by PhysicsMHD(m): 5:51am On Feb 01, 2011 |
Calm down. You reacted exactly like I thought you would. That's one of the key motivations obnoxious youths like myself have for mocking elders like you. It's just kind of fun. On a serious note, I've never ever seen an African in America insult older people that they know, so maybe Nigerians in Nigeria are doing it out of contempt for the bad leaders in the country - all of whom are their elders. Wole Soyinka called his generation a failed or wasted generation. When you start to view them in that light, why not insult them? |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 5:53am On Feb 01, 2011 |
PhysicsMHD: bro, you're older than me. as per mocking elders, are you planning to be an elder some day? just asking. so, you're saying you insult elders because wole soyinka does so. and as for reaction, if i go through your posts, i'm sure i'll find some where you were foaming at the mouth with rage at something somebody said. dont be a hypocrite. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 6:01am On Feb 01, 2011 |
isnt this from you: PhysicsMHD: PhysicsQED: |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by McCoy91(m): 6:03am On Feb 01, 2011 |
Funny elderly people |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by ZIMDRILL(m): 2:08pm On Feb 01, 2011 |
tpiah*: why call him/.her african when s/he wasnt born in any of the african country ? there is nothing called unafrican, african has 53 nations meaning we got different cultures among the 53 nations and many within each country rudenes got nothing do with africanness or the west but it has something to do with individuals |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by armyofone(m): 2:28pm On Feb 01, 2011 |
tpia lol, but elders/old pple too do worst ever seen the white old ladies/folks dole out curses? lol just go bargain with an old person selling stuff at the market in naija, o Lord i try not to bargain when buying things from an old person western old folk are cool though until you hit your lady (they don't hestitate to dail 911). love their dress style on sunday morning |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 2:32pm On Feb 01, 2011 |
^^i'm referring to the practice by some people, of automatically insulting others just because they're older. very uncouth and doesnt show good breeding. in africa, respect for elders is one of the basics in any society. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 2:32pm On Feb 01, 2011 |
@zim drill remove your area from the list if respect for elders is not taught where you come from. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by ZIMDRILL(m): 2:45pm On Feb 01, 2011 |
tpiah*: please reason hard everywhere is the world people love respect and want to be respected it got nothing to with being african or unafrican it is up to individuals and the society there are in |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 2:46pm On Feb 01, 2011 |
like i said, if they dont teach respect in your area, then remove it from the list. in africa, we show respect for elders. kapish? maybe you are migrants. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by amor4ce(m): 5:19pm On Feb 01, 2011 |
I don't know about the whole of Africa o! I do know that respect and demonstration of such for elders is very important among the Yoruba and I guess the Hausa people as well. However I'm not sure about how it is observed amongst the Igbo. There is a saying - "The age of Methuselah has nothing to do with the wisdom of Solomon". I've had discomforting experiences with some elders who seemed to have been behaving like prigs, perhaps due to approaching dotage. These ones seem assume that the younger ones are deliberately not giving them due respect or want to take advantage of senility - as if there is a stereotype of how younger ones should behave. So, I feel that the accusation of disrespect is at times uncalled for, unjust, and a gutter behavior on their part. Also, what have Africans benefitted from the "Elders" when many act like demigods, sit-tight rulers, kleptomaniacs, 419 kingpins, wife snatchers, and prolific fornicators, not to forget entrenchment in sacrifices so as not to take responsibility for their actions. Nevertheless, I agree that we should give respect but in doing so provide upward leadership when necessary. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 12:20am On Feb 02, 2011 |
once again, i'm referring to the practice of insulting someone for no other reason than because they're older than you. say, for example, you're 25, and you meet someone who's 30. next thing we hear is a barrage of insults and ill mannered abuse by the 25 year old, directed at the 30 year old. "oloshi", "agbaya", "old hag", "menopause", "you don old" very sickening behaviour worthy of a gutter rat. I AM NOT REFERRING TO ANY LEADER HERE BUT THE BAD MENTALITY AND WRONG ASSUMPTION THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK YOUR GOODS ARE SOUGHT AFTER IN THE STRIPPER MARKET, YOU SHOULD JUST START RUNNING MOUTH GBOA LIKE RABBIT. respect for elders is a cornerstone of african values, and it seems much of this is being lost in transit to the diaspora. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by angry190: 12:56am On Feb 02, 2011 |
tpiah*: DEATH, ROTFLMFAO, HAHAHAHAHAHA, AGBAYA, ROLLING ON THE FLOOR COMPLETELY BUTT NAKED |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 1:01am On Feb 02, 2011 |
MODERATORS Y'ALL BETTER RELEASE ME, I DONT LIKE WHAT IM DOING!!! hmm. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by angry190: 1:03am On Feb 02, 2011 |
^^so you are 30 after all, kneel down lemme pray so you would get a husband tomorrow 1 Like |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by Outstrip(f): 1:06am On Feb 02, 2011 |
Elderly in my opinion is like 60 years old. A 25 year old and a 30 year old in your example probably best explains why young people are just so over this you must respect me deal because I was born first. Respect is earned abeg. I still think we should raise our children to always respect their elders but I wish someone would also educate elders on the dangers of being an agbaya LOL |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by angry190: 1:08am On Feb 02, 2011 |
Outstrip: Please tell TPIAH |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by Nobody: 1:10am On Feb 02, 2011 |
Outstrip: GBAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The bible says honor thy mother and thy father also saying they must not provoke their children. Same for strangers, love each other and respect elders but elders must not provoke if they want respect. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 1:12am On Feb 02, 2011 |
Elderly in my opinion is like 60 years old. A 25 year old and a 30 year old in your example probably best explains why young people are just so over this you must respect me deal because I was born first. Respect is earned abeg. I still think we should raise our children to always respect their elders but I wish someone would also educate elders on the dangers of being an agbaya LOl ^^well, the way i was raised, even if an elder is being an agbaya, it still doesnt give the younger one a license to run mouth anyhow. the essence of respect isnt to only do it if or when the older person acts in a way you approve of. you are not well mannered if you just start acting s.tupid and crass because you simply cant be bothered to behave. aka ki lo ma fimise. disrespect is just that- disrespect. it's just lack of manners. if you have a disagreement with an elder, you should be able to express yourself in ways that show you came from somewhere where people live to old age. If that's a strange concept to you, then kudos. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 1:13am On Feb 02, 2011 |
MzD@rkSkin: have you ever lived in africa or how are you familiar with the thread title. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by Nobody: 1:26am On Feb 02, 2011 |
@tpia no, never been to Africa nor am I directly from there but i do know that that rule is not just pertaining to African nationals. Most societies preach the respecting of elders. It is universal and believe it or not, it's importance strongly emphasized/pushed in Jamaica. A disrespectful child there can risk getting a beating from just about every adult present during their rants/insults. So I understand perfectly what you are saying however when I am disrespected I am more willing to bite my tongue to an ACTUAL senior citizen than someone who is not even 10 years older than I, worst of all if they are an interloper. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 1:31am On Feb 02, 2011 |
^^the thread title specifically said AFRICAN. i dont know how they do things in jamaica, but going by your attitude here, i doubt you have any idea what i'm talking about. anyway, lets not make the thread about you, thanks. i can open another one for you to discuss jamaican culture if you so want. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by Outstrip(f): 1:38am On Feb 02, 2011 |
I grew up for the most part in Nigeria so I guess I am "qualified" (in your opinion) to speak here. Tpiah this question is for you. What is your definition of this respect. I will definitely raise my kids to speak up for themselves and I don't care if it is to a 60 year old. I get the feeling that respect to you means always letting an older person be of the opinion that they are right simply because they were born first. We have an abundance of those kinds of people in Nigeria. Maybe that is our problem. When you have a collective bunch of people that do not earn the accolades they get then we have people who will never learn or improve. Someone rightly said what does the age of Methuselah have to do with the wisdom of solomon? We are so drunk with this mentality in Nigeria that young people are never given a chance. Things are so stagnant and the customs are culture do nt give way for fresh new ideas. You will hear people in office (in power as we often say in Nigeria) use language like "look at this small boy" or "do you think I am your mate?" LOL. Please abeg. I don't want to get you worked up. I just want you to see that being older should not automatically make you feel that you are entitled to respect. Let us teach our kids to respect their elders but it does not mean that an agbaya is not an agbaya |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 1:49am On Feb 02, 2011 |
Outstrip: i quoted specific instances, namely that some people have the notion that being older is in itself an insult. imo, only someone with no home training would think that way. and yes, let's all respect ourselves. even if an older person is acting in ways that to you, do not connote respect, it is uncouth on your part to start abusing them. and most of the time, the elder doesnt even have to do or say anything to bring on the gutter rat syndrome. and as a younger person, who are you most times to say an elder is to be disrespected for whatever reason? just because you dont agree with them or because you feel you're better off than they are? |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by angry190: 2:01am On Feb 02, 2011 |
LOL @ TPIA
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Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by Nobody: 2:08am On Feb 02, 2011 |
tpiah*: When have I ever cared about specific words in your "late night rum influenced tantrum" threads? Mukina specifically asked that we act civil and now that I am you are trying to draw me out? Before I allow myself to go that route, I'd leave you alone to your own misery. Go to a pub jare |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by omega25red(m): 2:15am On Feb 02, 2011 |
tpiah*:this is the attitude that gets insults and disrespect. This is a forum where anyone African or not can state and opinion. you basically gave her an underhanded insult by say "i don't know how they do things in Jamaica" saying things like that antagonizes people. you started a thread and people are answering just because you had issues with someone in another area of the site doesn't mean they can't state their opinion. it is disheartening to see how elders are disrespected but most of those elders refuse to realize that the world has and is changing. all that old school stuff doesn't fly anymore. as and "elder" you just can't talk or behave recklessly and not expect retaliation such is the world we live in now so elders will have to adjust to the current world. |
Re: Disrespecting And Insulting Elders Is Very Unafrican And Gutter Behaviour by tpiah2: 2:21am On Feb 02, 2011 |
omega25red: i specifically said AFRICANS in the thread title, so she needs to show some respect by staying out of this thread. no apologies and i believe i'm very clear on that. if you want to catch feelings on her behalf, open another thread for her about africa and invite her there. |
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