Unnerve:
In summary, the reason why a man should be assertive and a visionary, is to get a woman/wife.

Really?

NO.

We, The Association of Assertive Visionary Men, London Chapter humbly refuse to accept this conclusion as a worthy enough reason for our assertiveness and vision.

Rozz:
a very good one

Belafonte:
Not bad, Buka.

bukatyne:


Turn your device to the right direction and read again.

Welcome to the thread.

Unnerve:

Is this rudeness or assertiveness?

Liposure:
Incisive. I'm enlightened

Liposure:
Incisive. I'm enlightened

Rozz:
Good to have you here and not the usual place lol

Liposure:
lol. Its not fair oh

bukatyne:


Welcome to the thread.

I am glad you learnt something.

What in particular got to you?

Liposure:
i like where you said an assertive man is not a rude man. For years, its been a stereotype

xrayj:
One of the unbiased ladies we have on this forum. Nice one bukatyne.
But becoming an assertive visionary man is tied to a lot of factors in the society though & the present society we live in today is not helping matters.

bukatyne:


Welcome to the thread.

The first thing is desire. If you desire to be an assertive visionary man, you consciously and unconsciously start to work towards it irrespective of the circumstances around you.

It is going to be tough and might require steep sacrifices however, you will come out refined at the end.

I pray God gives you the grace, wisdom and strength to do all you need to become an assertive visionary man.

Amen.

Unnerve:
In summary, the reason why a man should be assertive and a visionary, is to get a woman/wife.

Really?

NO.

We, The Association of Assertive Visionary Men, London Chapter humbly refuse to accept this conclusion as a worthy enough reason for our assertiveness and vision.

LordKO:
More kudos to the Inculcator General of the Federation.

mrblessed:

1. This gospel is dreadfully one-sided and it is also steeped in gender bias. It says nothing about women but charges men to be self-assertive as a precondition to getting better women.

2. This line of reasoning is wooly because there is no correlation between being self-assertive and getting good women.

3. Due to the nature of human, people who tend to be meticulous on their choice of women, don't always achieve all that tick their boxes.

4. A member wondered why the end goal of assertiveness of men should be in getting women and was not given adequate answer.

5. If a man's assertive disposition is merely to get good women then it is shortsighted and dense.

6. It is good to encourage people to be self-assertive, however, let this positive trait be tailored towards solving societal problems, and not seeking for the gratification of women.

7. If one becomes successful by being self-assertive, women, I mean good ones, have no choice but to follow he who has wields the palm front.

UjuJoan2:


The kind of wife you marry goes a long way in determining your future.

UjuJoan2:

The kind of wife you marry goes a long way in determining your future.

0neal:
Important and interesting topic

Having a Vision/Purpose for one's life cant be over emphasised, Myles Munroe of blessed memory book "Understanding the Purpose and Power of Men" comes to mind.

Even a book i'm currently reading, written 2017 by scholars claim vision/purpose is a goal, success and life enhancer, and processes like;

1. Seeking counsel from trusted individual
2. Praying
3. Reflecting
helped to establish Vision/purpose in leaders.

Op you provided a link on how to create Vision, it'll be of great help if you do same for assertiveness.

Thanks

Unnerve:

Far from the point.

I'm simply not comfortable with the narrative that a man should be assertive and a visionary because he wants to get a woman. I'd rather he develops himself for himself and only himself.

I bet the OP would not agree that a man should make money because he wants to get a woman. Same principle.

Self-development is entirely for self, which is why there's a self in there.

UjuJoan2:


The kind of wife you marry goes a long way in determining your future.

UjuJoan2:


The kind of wife you marry goes a long way in determining your future.