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The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 10:23am On Jul 02, 2020
Too often, the pre-recorded history of the Igbo is left in the hands of myth-makers who have an agenda to push. For instance, monarchists in Aguleri/Umuleri are claiming that the founder-father of the Igbo, the Igbo Abraham or Oduduwa, is Eri. Are they wrong? Perhaps, not. But are they in any sense historically right? Nope.

They have only assertions, claims, platitudes, not proofs, not triangulations. For instance, they are blissfully ignorant that Eri is a dialectal variation of Eshi, of Ehi. The fact of this is important. Immediately the veracity and logic of dialectal differences are established, as they now are, Aguleri/Umuleri’s claims to being the first port or settlement of Eri is shattered like broken china.

becomes, which is the first in use and in coinage? Is it Eshi, Eri, Ehi, etc? Additionally, their names Agulu-eri, Umu-l-eri give them away. Agulu and Umu have specific meanings and implications in Igbo language. That will be a subject of another book.

Anyway, we are happy to report that it is now established, philologically, by logic and triangulation, that the paterfamilias of the Igbo is Eshi. His dialectal renditions are Eri and Ehi. For record purposes, yours truly is the first to establish this in history.

Below is a relevant excerpt, slightly edited, from my book “Nigeria: The Unreported Genocide against the Igbo: The Generals Murtala Mohammed-Olusegun Obasanjo Diktats.’’ Happy reading:

… Anyway, Kamgbe-Eshi metaphorically means before or since time immemorial in Nkwerre and related zones. However, for a philologist there are other hints. One of which is that Nkwerre people say Oha-Eshi, meaning the crowd/community (of Eshi). Also Nkwerre people would praise sing or name themselves Nkwerre okwara-eshi, meaning Nkwerre first born/male of Eshi.

But the matter is not as simple or exhaustive as this. The other facts are: a neighbouring town bears the name Umu-eshi, meaning children/descendants of Eshi. However, a little furtherer away at Oguta, the Oguta people take pride in their group cognomen; Oguta nwa ama-eshi, which translates roughly as, Oguta, scions of the Household of Eshi. Nkwerre, Umueshi and Oguta are all in Imo State.

More interestingly in Anambra, some towns are named: Ora-eri/people/community/crowd of Eri, Umu-leri/heirs/children of Eri, agulu-eri/of the out compound or outpost of Eri.

From all these the following are generally clear for what they mean for the Igbo. Umu/oha/agulu mean children/heirs – crowd/community/multitude – compound/outpost. The mystery is what does Eshi or Eri mean, are they not depicting one reality? Are the differences not only dialectal? Our answer is yes. Eshi and Eri are not synonyms. They are one and the same word varying only dialectally.

The fact of this is given out by the following philological revelations. In Nkwerre, phrases like: kamgbe oleshi ka mu nagi huru? /meaning since when did we last meet? – are a staple. Even more telling is, in the Anambra zone the phrasal equivalent is: Eri-ngbe-nine ka anyi fulu. Its dialectical meaning is that Eri is of the beginning or a point in time. So for an overwhelming swathe of the Igbo, time counts from Eri/Eshi.

In Mbaise and Mbano areas of Imo State, the same question is asked as: Ehi olengbe ka anyi huru? The greater point is that Mbaise and Mbano stretch is the heartland of the Igbo. The Igbo autography is built around their tongue.

When you add up the Igbo who use Eshi, Eri, Ehi as a metric of time, the overwhelming numbers explode. More interestingly, the use of Eshi, Eri, Ehi, Eli is not within any one restrictive belt or region of the Igbo nation. It is as far apart as Oraeri/Umuleri/Aguleri/Asaba/Delta Igbo in present Anambra to Delta States; Nkwerre/Umueshi/Oguta zones Nwamaeshi/kamgbe; Ehi in the sprawling Mbaise/Mbano zones which butts into Abia State. These areas are random, unconnected enough, they don’t constitute a lineage or a sub-group Igbo. That is the phenomenon of Eshi, Ehi, Eri, Eli and other dialectical variants may be easily deemed to be pan-Igbo. That is Mbaise/Mbano, Oraeri/Umuleri/Aguleri/Asaba do not constitute a sub-clan of the Igbo.

However the conjugation of verbs goes, in the above examples among the various Igbo, the point remains that Eshi, Ehi, Eli or Eri signifies time, actually a point in time. And these same Eshi, Ehi or Eri is also used severally to signify a certain human being as in son/umu, compound/agulu, followers/crowd/oha of Eshi, Eri. And it is used in the line of a paterfamilias, a founder father. And in Nkwerre there is specificity to it: okwara eshi – the first born of Eshi. Therefore, the phenomenon or object that is Eshi, Ehi or Eri was a man, a paterfamilias. The fact of this paterfamilias is acknowledged universally by the Igbo as we have illustrated by the prefix of umu/okwara/oha prefixing Eshi, Ehi or Eri scattered all over Igbo land. That is Eshi, Eri etc. was one common founder father universally acknowledged by the Igbo.

Our contention is that Eshi, Ehi or Eri, who is the same person though dialectally variant, was metaphorised into representing time, a point in time past, time lost. That is, Ora-eri in Anambra State and Oha-eshi in Nkwerre Imo State mean one and the same. They only suffer dialectal differences. However, since the words Oha, Ora, Eshi, Eri are all common Igbo words, pan-Igbo assets, there is no immediate suggestion that Oraeri people and Nkwerre people are direct cousins, though that can’t be ruled out. By the way, both Oha and Ora are dialectal variants of one reality, crowd/community.

Our point is that Eshi, Ehi or Eri is used in the same dialectical sense in which Christ says Before Abraham I am. That is, Abraham was more than just a father. He was the first patriarchal father and thus a big and decisive point in time; times ancient and perhaps lost. So, “Before Abraham I am,” is the Jewish equivalent of kamgb-eshi, eri-ngbe-nine, a metaphorical flashback to the beginning of time for a people. It means in the beginning of time/I have ancient provenance or in the ancestry of time/time past. More, we have formal time marking equivalents like since, 1. The birth of Christ, 2. The Hegira/the emigration of the nascent Muslim community led by the prophet. Also, one commonly encounters diverse Igbo communities speaking: kamgbe nna anyi ha/eri [ngbe] nna anyi fa/ehi mgbe nna anyi ha. These are dialectally same, meaning since our [more recent] fathers. “Since our fathers,” is generic equivalent of the “since” specificity in the case of the Igbo paterfamilias, Eshi, Eri, Eli, Ehi. And it is universally used in Igbo land to authenticate a tradition, that is that our fathers instituted this practice. The Jewish equivalent, for example, would have been, it is a practice founded by their patriarchs.

Simply, it is universally human to date an era from its big events or its big founders or characters, like fathers and patriarchs. Kamgbe eshi/ehi/eri/eri mgbe niine, is thus in universal character.

What a philologist or historian can thus deduce is that Eshi, Ehi or Eri is a factual paterfamilias, but now preserved and mythologised into metaphors. However, the fact of his being a founder father is generally accepted in Igboland even without awareness. Anytime you ask eshi/ehi/eri olengbe, you are recognising a fact of your founder ancestor being Eshi, Ehi or Eri.

Also, there are no hints Eshi, Ehi or Eri was or considered himself a king. There are no records of special attributes to him save the honour of the Igbo being his progeny. So, Eshi, Ehi or Eri was essentially a republican guy and left his progeny a heritage of universal equality. And that was even before the Americans founded something similar for themselves. Or it is feasible that what happened to the Igbo is similar to the experience of Alexander the Great. When Alexander died, he left no instructions and his heirs decided on what to do with the empire. If that is the case for the Igbo, it was to go republican, to go democratic, to scatter powers and never concentrate it.

We also conjecture that Eshi, Ehi or Eri was something of a scholar first and patriarch next. He was such as one who left his home and the lake of his home in search of freedom and universal truths. So, the Igbo founding is founded in the search, not in settlement, in the growth not in the freeze. And kingdoms or concentration of powers are antithetical to these. Igbo Ronu.

So, Eshi of Nkwerre etymologically and philologically means and meant father of Nkwerre, not king, not Eze Nkwerre, for instance. This does not mean that the philological Eshi as father cannot be conscripted by power mongers in the guise of traditional rulers. There is no harm in that partisan ambition. But it behoves scholars in search for truth not to be confounded by the princes of greed in their hunt for power. Ahiazuwa.



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Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 10:34am On Jul 02, 2020
Come and learn about your progenitor.

Cc
Imhotep
Lzaa
Christina
Alhaja Rekhina
Adaibeku
Amatarasha

grin
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by powerhouse3(m): 10:37am On Jul 02, 2020
Jimanze ego Alowees ...my best column writer follow by the Man behind the sheep ...Abdu Rafiu







brb ,to give him my mine


Now I'm back....... The point.. or his point


So Eshi, Ehi ,or Eri was essentially a Republican guy and left his progeny a heritage of universals equality,.. it is feasible that what happened to Igbo is similar to the experience of Alexander the great..

when Alexander died ,he left no instruction and his hier decided on what to do with the Empire ...it was to go Republican ,to go Democratic ,to Scatter power and never concentrate it



*******my take away*******

outside link to their ancestry lineage


Going Republican ,Democratic or Scatter power is in literal sense cum 2023....Igbo need to come together and concentrate their Force
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Nobody: 10:38am On Jul 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:
Come and learn about your progenitor.

Cc
Imhotep
Lzaa
Christina
Alhaja Rekhina
Adaibeku
Amatarasha

grin
Nna anyi Eri amaka grin grin

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Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Kriss216: 10:41am On Jul 02, 2020
Wetin consign Gbegiri man with history of Igbo

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Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 10:42am On Jul 02, 2020
imhotep:

Nna anyi Eri amaka grin grin

Aah ah...You no dey sleep
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 10:43am On Jul 02, 2020
Kriss216:
Wetin consign Gbegiri man with history of Igbo

Focus on your history. Dont derail thread.

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Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Adaibeku(f): 10:52am On Jul 02, 2020
U would av said Eshu metaphysical, no problem truth is truth adighi emeya mgbagha

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Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 11:00am On Jul 02, 2020
Adaibeku:
U would avoid said Eshu metaphysical, no problem truth is truth adighi emeya mgbagha

See me see wahala!

You and Imhotep must be husband and wife. Una no sleep?

Anyway, as i dey prepare for this Imo trip so na hin I say make i learn about Christina people in Mbaise. Na this article jump out from the search.
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Nobody: 11:04am On Jul 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Aah ah...You no dey sleep

LOL......some of us need little sleep grin grin

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Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Adaibeku(f): 12:05pm On Jul 02, 2020
imhotep:

LOL......some of us need little sleep grin grin
igbos aren't from Jew, I will tell my uncle wen d time comes

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Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Nobody: 12:09pm On Jul 02, 2020
Adaibeku:
igbos aren't from Jew, I will tell my uncle wen d time comes
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What does your uncle say

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Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 1:23pm On Jul 02, 2020
imhotep:

LOL......some of us need little sleep grin grin

Se una go replace the half yellow sun now with star of david? How do you want Igbo Catholics and Igbo Muslims to feel with a jewish symbol?

Ibo Amaka! grin
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Adaibeku(f): 1:55pm On Jul 02, 2020
imhotep:
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What does your uncle say
He knows and will correct it soon, he knows about deceptions of Jesus,Romans,whites,bible, Christianity and the Satan himself,
He is so cautious 2 it ,but I told him to leave it 4 a young lady of 14 known as april wolf from aguata anambra, by d the time she enters 16 we will break d bondage holding us, Pls if u can get to April wolf the female tell her she isn't alone ,she shudnt be afraid that chuku okike our father(not Yahweh) said he is with her ikenga ,ofor n his sister ogu is with her, I have not seen her B4 but I saw her in my dreams often...if u know her email tell her that I goddess from ancient Creek is with her ,she should speak without fear, my uncle shud face his struggle..tanks
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Adaibeku(f): 2:01pm On Jul 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Se una go replace the half yellow sun now with star of david? How do you want Igbo Catholics and Igbo Muslims to feel with a jewish symbol?

Ibo Amaka! grin
With time we will get things straightened out ..David is d worst terrorist to have walked d middle East after his master( you know him ) with time ,as 4 now let d unslavery continue
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Nobody: 2:02pm On Jul 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Se una go replace the half yellow sun now with star of david? How do you want Igbo Catholics and Igbo Muslims to feel with a jewish symbol?

Ibo Amaka! grin
Igbo lifestyle is already Hebraic in nature.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drP6TI2nxuM
Yes. Igbo amaka.

cc lzaa adaibeku

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Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Adaibeku(f): 2:05pm On Jul 02, 2020
imhotep:

Igbo lifestyle is already Hebraic in nature.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drP6TI2nxuM
Yes. Igbo amaka.

cc lzaa adaibeku
Me Ada of great ibeku land said with time u will denounce Isreal n accept iran his enemies

Mark today
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Nobody: 2:07pm On Jul 02, 2020
Adaibeku:
Me Ada of great ibeku land said with time u will denounce Isreal n accept iran his enemies

Mark today
accept boko haram ? grin grin

Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Adaibeku(f): 2:37pm On Jul 02, 2020
imhotep:

accept boko haram ? grin grin
With this u will know am not just human, I see farther than u,

I saw it last 10 years ,me n my uncle argued it out ,is now Dawn on him I was right, if u want Dem as Ally no problem,but all dis Igbo Hebrew is deception , Hebrews watever are from hindiland , u will know after 40yrs and 40yrs is 4days 2 me & am waiting
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 3:34pm On Jul 02, 2020
Adaibeku:
With time we will get things straightened out ..David is d worst terrorist to have walked d middle East after his master( you know him ) with time ,as 4 now let d unslavery continue

Let me catch you....you will be shouting Allahu Akbar from dawn to dusk.
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Adaibeku(f): 3:35pm On Jul 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Let me catch you....you will be shouting Allahu Akbar from dawn to dusk.
It pains me u joke with truth of ur existence, now d little boy imhotep thinks am talking rubbish, y are u humans so gullible,daft and myopic,
Even though u are d alleluia type but u av 2 seek wat has been ,is painful I know wat no one knows, talk dey will call u agent marine spirit even d so called ipob,
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 3:39pm On Jul 02, 2020
imhotep:

Igbo lifestyle is already Hebraic in nature.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drP6TI2nxuM
Yes. Igbo amaka.

cc lzaa adaibeku

How so? grin
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 3:49pm On Jul 02, 2020
Adaibeku:
Me Ada of great ibeku land said with time u will denounce Isreal n accept iran his enemies

Mark today

Adadiorama I of Ibekuland.

See as little girl dey get boldness to talk and dare her ancestors. grin
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 3:51pm On Jul 02, 2020
Adaibeku:
It pains me u joke with truth of ur existence, now d little boy imhotep thinks am talking rubbish, y are u humans so gullible,daft and myopic,
Even though u are d alleluia type but u av 2 seek wat has been ,is painful I know wat no one knows, talk dey will call u agent marine spirit even d so called ipob,

Oya talk. Me i go listen and understand. Me i sabi talk spirit language.
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Nobody: 4:28pm On Jul 02, 2020
Adaibeku:
It pains me u joke with truth of ur existence, now d little boy imhotep thinks am talking rubbish, y are u humans so gullible,daft and myopic,
Even though u are d alleluia type but u av 2 seek wat has been ,is painful I know wat no one knows, talk dey will call u agent marine spirit even d so called ipob,
MetaPhysical wants to marry you abi grin grin
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 5:29pm On Jul 02, 2020
imhotep:

MetaPhysical wants to marry you abi grin grin

Ada na my beautiful sista. grin
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 5:34pm On Jul 02, 2020
powerhouse3:
Jimanze ego Alowees ...my best column writer follow by the Man behind the sheep ...Abdu Rafiu







brb ,to give him my mine


Now I'm back....... The point.. or his point


So Eshi, Ehi ,or Eri was essentially a Republican guy and left his progeny a heritage of universals equality,.. it is feasible that what happened to Igbo is similar to the experience of Alexander the great..

when Alexander died ,he left no instruction and his hier decided on what to do with the Empire ...it was to go Republican ,to go Democratic ,to Scatter power and never concentrate it



*******my take away*******

outside link to their ancestry lineage


Going Republican ,Democratic or Scatter power is in literal sense cum 2023....Igbo need to come together and concentrate their Force

Are you speaking for Igbo here
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Mariangeles(f): 5:45pm On Jul 02, 2020
A long but interesting piece.

"In Mbaise and Mbano areas of Imo State, the same question is asked as: Ehi olengbe ka anyi huru? The greater point is that Mbaise and Mbano stretch is the heartland of the Igbo. The Igbo autography is built around their tongue."

How true is the quoted part?

Also, point of correction @bolded, in my place of isi-ala mbano, it is Eshi olengbe ka anyi hukwara?
We say eshi and not ehi

How do you say the bolded in your place? @Munzy14
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Nobody: 5:58pm On Jul 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Ada na my beautiful sista. grin
Pay the dowry sharp sharp before we sanction you grin
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by Nobody: 5:59pm On Jul 02, 2020
Kriss216:
Wetin consign Gbegiri man with history of Igbo
I blame APC and Oshiomole for this grin
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by powerhouse3(m): 6:06pm On Jul 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:

Are you speaking for Igbo here
it's my opinion
Re: The Progenitor Of Igbo Is Eshi, And Not Eri. Igbo Ronu! by MetaPhysical: 6:37pm On Jul 02, 2020
powerhouse3:
it's my opinion


Are you speaking on behalf of Igbo?

Dont speak what you dont know.

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