The people shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations. (Numbers 23:9)

Not reckoned among the nations. Oh, that is glorious! That puts Israel not only apart from the nations, but on top of the nations. Now, if there has been one thing which Satan has ever tried to do with the people of God in all ages, it has been to get them reckoned among the nations. I speak solemnly and carefully. Right at the very heart of Christendom as we have it today is the desire to be recognized. Recognition! Everything that organized Christianity does is to gain recognition. What are all these churches? I mean, in this instance, all these elaborate and imposing buildings. They are to gain recognition. They are in order to be reckoned something. To what end is all the procedure, the advertisement, and the much else besides? It is in order to get recognition, to be accredited here on this earth, to be reckoned. Yes, that is Satan's triumph. That is where spiritual power has gone out. That is where the Church has ceased to be something to be reckoned with up there. It has, in spirit, come down here, to be reckoned among the nations. If only Satan can get the people of God into a position where they are taken up by this world, written up by this world, made something of by this world, he has triumphed and pulled the Church down out of its heavenly place and made it an earthly thing. That is the principle right through the Old Testament. That too is seen to be the trouble in the Revelation. God will not have it. Satan's success is along that line. He has pulled the Church out of the heavens. Somewhere he has made it touch earth, form a link in some way with earth.

What we have just said does touch us in so many ways, yes, in countless things, this question of being reckoned among the nations in principle, this coming down from the heavenly position. The Lord never meant His Church on this earth to be something that would be taken up by this world, to be something that would be reckoned among the things of this world, recognized and accredited by this world. What He meant, and what obtained when things were right, was that the world itself could not bear the presence of the Church, did not want it. That is the power of the Church to testify against the world

How can it testify against the world when it looks no different from the world when in every way it resembles the world?

ichuka:
The people shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations. (Numbers 23:9)

Not reckoned among the nations. Oh, that is glorious! That puts Israel not only apart from the nations, but on top of the nations. Now, if there has been one thing which Satan has ever tried to do with the people of God in all ages, it has been to get them reckoned among the nations. I speak solemnly and carefully. Right at the very heart of Christendom as we have it today is the desire to be recognized. Recognition! Everything that organized Christianity does is to gain recognition. What are all these churches? I mean, in this instance, all these elaborate and imposing buildings. They are to gain recognition. They are in order to be reckoned something. To what end is all the procedure, the advertisement, and the much else besides? It is in order to get recognition, to be accredited here on this earth, to be reckoned. Yes, that is Satan's triumph. That is where spiritual power has gone out. That is where the Church has ceased to be something to be reckoned with up there. It has, in spirit, come down here, to be reckoned among the nations. If only Satan can get the people of God into a position where they are taken up by this world, written up by this world, made something of by this world, he has triumphed and pulled the Church down out of its heavenly place and made it an earthly thing. That is the principle right through the Old Testament. That too is seen to be the trouble in the Revelation. God will not have it. Satan's success is along that line. He has pulled the Church out of the heavens. Somewhere he has made it touch earth, form a link in some way with earth.

What we have just said does touch us in so many ways, yes, in countless things, this question of being reckoned among the nations in principle, this coming down from the heavenly position. The Lord never meant His Church on this earth to be something that would be taken up by this world, to be something that would be reckoned among the things of this world, recognized and accredited by this world. What He meant, and what obtained when things were right, was that the world itself could not bear the presence of the Church, did not want it. That is the power of the Church to testify against the world

But if I tarry long,
that thou may know how it is expedient to behave thyself in the house of God,
which is the congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones} of the living God,
the pillar and base of the truth.
- 1 Timothy 3:15 Jubilee Bible 2000

One of the major philosophical teaching of Jesus, in His capacity, as man and divinity, is about one body, ekklesia, being called out.

The ruling civilization of that Jesus time period, were the Greeks and normally "ekklesia" is the assembly of free citizens, whom have judicial and legislative power, that aliens, slaves and the likes were excluded, but here is Jesus, turning this whole political concept on its head, and now talking about having a gathering of citizens (i.e. any member of the demos or all people, as demo means people) no discrimination, no prejudices, no sexism etcetera called out from their homes into public space and to partake, deliberate, legislate and be become fully inclusive in the sovereign governing body's services, expectations and/or requirement. Praise God. Alleluia.

The point, to be taken away from here, is that God is Christianity atheistic, Christian atheistic and even Christian denomination(s) atheistic. He believes in plain and simple "ekklesia," His body. He doesnt believe in organized Christianity. He believes in nothing else than "ekklesia," His Bride

MuttleyLaff:
But if I tarry long,
that thou may know how it is expedient to behave thyself in the house of God,
which is the congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones} of the living God,
the pillar and base of the truth.
- 1 Timothy 3:15 Jubilee Bible 2000

One of the major philosophical teaching of Jesus, in His capacity, as man and divinity, is about one body, ekklesia, being called out.

The ruling civilization of that Jesus time period, were the Greeks and normally "ekklesia" is the assembly of free citizens, whom have judicial and legislative power, that aliens, slaves and the likes were excluded, but here is Jesus, turning this whole political concept on its head, and now talking about having a gathering of citizens (i.e. any member of the demos or all people, as demo means people) no discrimination, no prejudices, no sexism etcetera called out from their homes into public space and to partake, deliberate, legislate and be become fully inclusive in the sovereign governing body's services, expectations and/or requirement. Praise God. Alleluia.

The point, to be taken away from here, is that God is Christianity atheistic, Christian atheistic and even Christian denomination(s) atheistic. He believes in plain and simple "ekklesia," His body. He doesnt believe in organized Christianity. He believes in nothing else than "ekklesia," His Bride

what are you saying sef

Kobojunkie:
How can it testify against the world when it looks no different from the world when in every way it resembles the world?

Leviticus 15:31
Verse Concepts
“Thus you shall keep the sons of Israel separated from their uncleanness, so that they will not die in their uncleanness by their defiling My tabernacle that is among them.”

Rozz:
what are you saying sef

He's saying we are one with Christ and not the world we should keep it so by the leading of the Spirit

Rozz:
what are you saying sef

You are "called out" to a peculiar and prestige existence, for a peculiar reason, for a peculiar purpose, for a peculiar benefit et cetera

MuttleyLaff:
But if I tarry long,
that thou may know how it is expedient to behave thyself in the house of God,
which is the congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones} of the living God,
the pillar and base of the truth.
- 1 Timothy 3:15 Jubilee Bible 2000

One of the major philosophical teaching of Jesus, in His capacity, as man and divinity, is about one body, ekklesia, being called out.

The ruling civilization of that Jesus time period, were the Greeks and normally "ekklesia" is the assembly of free citizens, whom have judicial and legislative power, that aliens, slaves and the likes were excluded, but here is Jesus, turning this whole political concept on its head, and now talking about having a gathering of citizens (i.e. any member of the demos or all people, as demo means people) no discrimination, no prejudices, no sexism etcetera called out from their homes into public space and to partake, deliberate, legislate and be become fully inclusive in the sovereign governing body's services, expectations and/or requirement. Praise God. Alleluia.

The point, to be taken away from here, is that God is Christianity atheistic, Christian atheistic and even Christian denomination(s) atheistic. He believes in plain and simple "ekklesia," His body. He doesnt believe in organized Christianity. He believes in nothing else than "ekklesia," His Bride

Na wa o! I used to think I was complex; now I have seen one greater than I.

Acehart:


Na wa o! I used to think I was complex; now I have seen one greater than I.

You to see am to ju ba fara bale daadaa a ri mu.

achorladey:


You to see am to ju ba fara bale daadaa a ri mu.

If this man na Sunday school teacher ehn, nobody go attend him class two times.

ichuka:

He's saying we are one with Christ and not the world we should keep it so by the leading of the Spirit

That does not seem at all like what he said.

Kobojunkie:
That does not seem at all like what he said.

Christ is the head n we His body
We should stop prostituting His body with the world
That's all His was trying to say

ichuka:

Christ is the head n we His body
We should stop prostituting His body with the world
That's all His was trying to say

If you say so

Kobojunkie:
If you say so

Lol bro I know so

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bump

Anything organise is prone to abuse

tobechi74:
Anything organise is prone to abuse

very correct bro.
that °I° in us has to die before He manifest fully .

tobechi74:
Anything organise is prone to abuse

Anything organise, outside the will of the Father, without the inclusivity of the Father is prone to abuse

ichuka:
very correct bro.
that ''I" in us has to die before He manifest fully.

"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise,
she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat"
- Genesis 3:6

Self-centeredness, the idea, thought, mind of thinking only about yourself and not about the needs of God and/or feelings of other people, in us has to die before God can manifest fully.

Whichever way back in the garden, we actually, were supposed to die there and then. Supposed die to self, but not die to self in the way or manner Adam and Eve died to self, because one does not, at the expense of giving offence to God, desire to make one wise (i.e. make ''I " wise) die to self in that way, lmso.

God is a systematic God. He does things in order. He buys into organisation for particular purposes. Creation was done in an organised fashion.

Christianity is not a God creation, but is an Antioch and/or Constantine creation. Organised christianity is an improvement on Antioch and/or Constantine christianity to further mentally enslaved the unsuspecting and ignorant of the many wiles of the devil to ensnare and hold captives prisoners for death row

MuttleyLaff:
Anything organise, outside the will of the Father, without the inclusivity of the Father is prone to abuse

"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise,
she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat"
- Genesis 3:6

Self-centeredness, the idea, thought, mind of thinking only about yourself and not about the needs of God and/or feelings of other people, in us has to die before God can manifest fully.

Whichever way back in the garden, we actually, were supposed to die there and then. Supposed die to self, but not die to self in the way or manner Adam and Eve died to self, because one does not, at the expense of giving offence to God, desire to make one wise (i.e. make ''I " wise) die to self in that way, lmso.

God is a systematic God. He does things in order. He buys into organisation for particular purposes. Creation was done in an organised fashion.

Christianity is not a God creation, but is an Antioch and/or Constantine creation. Organised christianity is an improvement on Antioch and/or Constantine christianity to further mentally enslaved the unsuspecting and ignorant of the many wiles of the devil to ensnare and hold captives prisoners for death row

very true bro

bump

Amen

Amen!