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Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:39am On Jul 15, 2020
MERCHANDISER:



Western media has made everything non_western evil.
We
need to sit down and look at it logically.
Nigeria has been struggling to fight BH for decade, US
has
never shown any genuine support, infact, at a time they're
were technically supporting BH by blocking every
opportunity
to access weapons. Whereas, the same US has been
building sophisticated millitary bases all over Africa with
several billions of dollars even all over islands in Africa.
In
a
continent struggling to provide as basic thing as clean
water,
road, edu, etc. In term of infrastructural development, US
hasnt built anything tangible anywhere in Africa despite
her
big economy and influence.
On the other hand, China is building projects across
Africa
from electricity to train to Airport, roads, scholarships to
Africans, etc even with their own money. Let's say we
can't
pay and they take over them, who would still be using
those
infrastructure, Chinese? At least they brought them here,
so
if we can't pay back and they take over them these things
would still be in use by Africans and improve quality of
life,
just like every private business.
US/Trump that everyone is supporting call Africans all
kinds
to unprintable names, visa ban, reporting weak sides of
African nations and continuously ridiculing everything we
do.
The list is long. China hasnt done any of these yet,
western
media still find their ways into the hearts of Africans to
hate
Chinese. Sadly, enough some fake pastors joined this
brainwashed citizens.
Look at China, how many times have they tumbled
African
govt? How many nations have China invaded in Africa?
How
many times has Chinese embassy criticize our local
affairs?
Etc
New York started have underground train in 1809, that's
200yrs, they never extended such to Africa. China started
booming just 20yrs ago and they've extended everything
technology they have to us, that have improved our lives;
From phones, train, Good Airport, Naval ship, Telecom,
Roads, scholarships, etc
Africans must sitdown and think. China is not your enemy


Knowing fully well that the Nigerian government is fantastically corrupt , it doesn't make sense to sell American precision drone and lethal missile/weapon to FG. These type of weapons will surely end in the hands of bokoharam , fulani herdsmen and bandits.

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Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by Nobody: 8:44am On Jul 15, 2020
ceejayluv:

It was in 2016.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/01/16/roger-mcnamee-defends-apple-refusal-to-unlock-iphones-for-doj.html

And shey they paid darely for it, they should try that nonsense again, Apple has luck they are purely American company so u don't expect US to be too harsh on them, but if they were chinese run company, they would be seriously dealt with!
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by witnezHD(m): 8:51am On Jul 15, 2020
Heathrow44:





U just came online and talked absolute rubbish, someone in oshodi and ajegunle in a village has access to classified information held closely by the CIA and other organizations, he knows so much and has clearance to do so, that's wonderful!! Lemme me tell so u don't feel u are intelligent wen u are not, if 5 eye was a real organization or treaty u would barely see it on internet Mr. Man, so stop exhibiting characteristics of a failed CIA agent!


Educated illiterates are flooding NL talking nonsense this is how I asked one boy here what is deep state? Till now no response, if somebody learns a new word they rush online to post it here so they can sound intelligent whereas an IQ test on them may prove to be less than 4!

U in particular aren't that intelligent saying its classified info, so don't try so hard to be with ur 5 eye crap! No be only 5 eye na 11 eye,
hahaha lol 15 eye
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by Nobody: 8:54am On Jul 15, 2020
witnezHD:
hahaha lol 15 eye



grin grin, baba iyabo would be shocked with this 25 eye organization
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by dashpee: 9:12am On Jul 15, 2020
Originality007:
The UK approves the phased removal of the Chinese telecoms giant from its 5G network despite warnings from Beijing.

The United Kingdom has bowed to US pressure and approved the phased removal of Chinese telecoms giant Huawei from its 5G network despite warnings of retaliation from Beijing.

Tuesday's policy reversal handed a significant victory to US President Donald Trump's administration in its geopolitical and trade battle with China.

But it threatens to further damage the UK's relations with the Asian power and carries a big cost for UK mobile providers that have relied on Huawei equipment for nearly 20 years.

Oliver Dowden, the UK's digital secretary, announced the move in Parliament on Tuesday after Prime Minister Boris Johnson chaired meetings with his Cabinet and the National Security Council.
"From the end of this year, telecoms providers must not buy any 5G equipment from Huawei," he told MPs.

The new guidelines also require all existing Huawei

Huawei had been reportedly pushing for the full ban to be delayed till after the UK's next general election, scheduled to take place in 2024, that could potentially bring a new government to power with a more sympathetic approach.

Huawei's reaction
"This disappointing decision is bad news for anyone in the UK with a mobile phone. It threatens to move Britain into the digital slow lane, push up bills and deepen the digital divide. Instead of 'levelling up' the government is levelling down and we urge them to reconsider," Huawei said after the announcement of the ban.

"Regrettably our future in the UK has become politicised, this is about US trade policy and not security."

Johnson angered Trump and upset some members of his own Conservative party by allowing the Chinese 5G leader to help roll out the UK's speedy new data network in January.

The UK was then completing its departure from the European Union and looking to establish strong ties with powerful Asian economies that could fulfil Johnson's vision of a "global Britain".

But the Trump administration told the UK government that its decision imperilled intelligence sharing and could even result in the relocation of some US fighter jets from England.

US stance

Washington believes the private Chinese company could either spy for Beijing or shut down rival countries' 5G networks in times of war.

Huawei has always denied this and pointed to 20 years of cooperation with British security agencies that checked on the safety of its existing 3G and 4G networks.

The British review was triggered by new US sanctions in May that blocked Huawei's access to US chips and semiconductors at the heart of 5G networks.

The restriction raised the possibility of Huawei having to switch from trusted US suppliers to alternatives whose safety could not be guaranteed by UK security agencies.

https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/uk-bans-china-huawei-5g-network-hands-big-win-200714120459624.html?
other nations should emulate, Chinese must be isolated, they brought corona virus to takeover the world economic, but they will pay darely for that...

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Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by LimeLyte: 11:28am On Jul 15, 2020
rhymz:
People here writing nonsense about China spying with their equipment forget that the only country with evidence of spying on other country and even their so-called allies is the US of A....."a person that kills with knife gets jittery the minute somebody walks behind him with a knife".

There is a big technological war going on between the US and China, anyone deluding themselves that either country will not spy on others to gain some advantage at some point is missing the point.

China has some very daring ambition to replace the US as both a superpower and economic behemoth and that scares the US to her bone marrow. China is intentional in its policy and effort towards reaching their goals is building path infrastructure that connects China to the rest of the world especially Europe through her Belt and Road Initiative. If you have read about the old silk road you would understand how ambitious the Belt and Road Initiative is.

China already has identified the technology that will lead the future economy and they are slowly but surely putting resources in R and D and results have put them in dominance in all of these areas, Renewable Energy Technology, China has the biggest EV market and the largest solar panel market. Some of the world's largest deployments of solar energy Infrastructure are in China. In fact, in some places in China, you get incentives for buying an EV and almost find impossible to get a number plate if you are buying a fossile driven car.

When it comes to Cellular Technology, China dominates the 4G technology world over, they still own more than 25 percent of the 4G technology patent and are now dominating patents again on 5G technology, Huawei alone has over 15 percent of patents on 5G technology, and they are like over a year ahead of their rivals Nokia and Ericsson. Huawei's 5G RnD budget alone is more than what the entire players have in their budgets combined. The results can be surprising.

In AI, China is also leading and have the largest deployments of AI in the world, we saw it in Wuhan,they use AI for their streets that integrates everything people do to the point it is scary but the reality is that they are going and getting somewhere with all of these. China did not become this powerful by playing nice or side kick to any powerful country.

Instead of Nigerians to learn from how China is defining her future and putting action to purpose, idiots are busy taking sides with Donald Trump who is way above his head with all his gragrah and movement policies that has only done nothing but make China more aggressive and resolved in their pursuit. Come 10 years from now,no damn country will dare do to any Chinese company what America is trying to do with Huawei. At the end of all of these, is consistency on the part of China while in the US one election wave will take away the president and another one will come with a different agenda...

China is playing the long game while many of us are here praising Donald Trump as if whatever Donald Trump is doing has stopped China from doing what it is doing. As we write and praise Trump for taking his usual irrational gragra policies, China is busy using deft ways and very subtle ways to undermine the US and her systems and replace them with theirs through investments outside of China that gives them controlling stakes and influence in these countries. From Europe to Africa to Australia China has investments and influence that's hard for any government to overlook.

When the Australians were busy threatening China with investigating them for Corona,China pulled some strings and the Australian politicians were all over the place blaming their governments for the harsh political moves from China.... Aussie barley got slapped with crazy taxes, even their mining Industry got a hot front as China withdrew some investments. The reality is when you get to the level of the US and China you learn to use your leverage on these other countries to keep them in line....the US has always done this and call it soft power until Donald Trump came to the scene and made it a policy to openly cajole other countries with tax, sanctions and withdrawal of military assistance and so on.....

If we all have sense,we will know that in this kind of fight there are no sides, they are both enemies and friends to the rest of us....
best explanation so far to what is going on btw us and China. Us is scared of China growing dominance and hence it's a challenge to thier status as world power. They are doing everything to undermine China but it won't work..
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by idahme(m): 11:30am On Jul 15, 2020
timesup234:
because you lack knowledge it will be very difficult for you to know the chinese economy is more than 12 times bigger than that of the UK. This is how someone can be blind forever. Now pay me for lecturing you

I just needed you to cite a reliable source and not a burnt source. You who has full knowledge of things instead of you to answer just a simple question 'according to' rather you shifted the goal post. If I call recall you said 'the worst Chinese city is bigger than the UK economy'here is the breakdown of the GDPs of Chinese cities according to wikepedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_prefecture-level_cities_by_GDP

I did not ask you to elucidate more to me rather I asked you to quote your source of assertions which you have refused to quote it's very appalling the way people go about disgracing themselves on public fora especially on nairaland. https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/
These are based on IMF 2019 data and it doesn't support your assertions. Go learn how to debate on public fora instead of disgracing your parents because I know they did a good work but u lost it along the way. Your head should be your asset not your fingers, a word they say is enough for the wise, good morning and learn to be a gentleman.
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by CONSTAINE: 11:49am On Jul 15, 2020
This is over Hong Kong.
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by icuminpiss(m): 12:10pm On Jul 15, 2020
timesup234:
You are a top rated mumu. Now listen I am the most intelligent person in the whole world. When I speak dont even bother searching bullshit western propaganda. Now sing my praise
Hahahaha, make AY invite you come him show. You to funny abeg!!
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by Psylas2: 12:16pm On Jul 15, 2020
IpobAntidote:
[s]How's this a US big win?

US doesn't even have the 5 G technology....they will all still end up with Chinese technology sooner or later.[/s]



Japanese company(Rakuten) will help the US out with 5G tech.

Many American companies are teaming up with Japanese to get this done.
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by TMwise1942: 12:18pm On Jul 15, 2020
MERCHANDISER:



Western media has made everything non_western evil.
We
need to sit down and look at it logically.
Nigeria has been struggling to fight BH for decade, US
has
never shown any genuine support, infact, at a time they're
were technically supporting BH by blocking every
opportunity
to access weapons. Whereas, the same US has been
building sophisticated millitary bases all over Africa with
several billions of dollars even all over islands in Africa.
In
a
continent struggling to provide as basic thing as clean
water,
road, edu, etc. In term of infrastructural development, US
hasnt built anything tangible anywhere in Africa despite
her
big economy and influence.
On the other hand, China is building projects across
Africa
from electricity to train to Airport, roads, scholarships to
Africans, etc even with their own money. Let's say we
can't
pay and they take over them, who would still be using
those
infrastructure, Chinese? At least they brought them here,
so
if we can't pay back and they take over them these things
would still be in use by Africans and improve quality of
life,
just like every private business.
US/Trump that everyone is supporting call Africans all
kinds
to unprintable names, visa ban, reporting weak sides of
African nations and continuously ridiculing everything we
do.
The list is long. China hasnt done any of these yet,
western
media still find their ways into the hearts of Africans to
hate
Chinese. Sadly, enough some fake pastors joined this
brainwashed citizens.
Look at China, how many times have they tumbled
African
govt? How many nations have China invaded in Africa?
How
many times has Chinese embassy criticize our local
affairs?
Etc
New York started have underground train in 1809, that's
200yrs, they never extended such to Africa. China started
booming just 20yrs ago and they've extended everything
technology they have to us, that have improved our lives;
From phones, train, Good Airport, Naval ship, Telecom,
Roads, scholarships, etc
Africans must sitdown and think. China is not your enemy
what about zambia, what about corona, what about human right, what about freedom of speach, what about comunist. See one thing i know is that Westans are, same with the europian very bad people that don't like the black but do you no what the chinese have in mind bro i apprieciate what u say up their but you see i prefir democracy than communist thank you

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Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by MERCHANDISER: 12:41pm On Jul 15, 2020
TMwise1942:
what about zambia, what about corona, what about human right, what about freedom of speach, what about comunist. See one thing i know is that Westans are, same with the europian very bad people that don't like the black but do you no what the chinese have in mind bro i apprieciate what u say up their but you see i prefir democracy than communist thank you


Nigeria has been practising democracy for the past 21years,what have we benefitted from our govt instead they are looting us with reckless abandon.


Can u compare the progress china has made for the past 21yrs to Nigerian's 21yrs years of democratic rule?
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by seanwilliam(m): 1:31pm On Jul 15, 2020
MERCHANDISER:



Nigeria has been practising democracy for the past 21years,what have we benefitted from our govt instead they are looting us with reckless abandon.


Can u compare the progress china has made for the past 21yrs to Nigerian's 21yrs years of democratic rule?

You must be an idiot for taking chinese system of government over Democracy...fool!

Your type you should be sold to Libya so you can know what freedom means

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Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by MERCHANDISER: 2:26pm On Jul 15, 2020
seanwilliam:


You must be an idiot for taking chinese system of government over Democracy...fool!

Your type you should be sold to Libya so you can know what freedom means

You still haven't answered my question.You just restorted to insult

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Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by TMwise1942: 3:17pm On Jul 15, 2020
MERCHANDISER:



Nigeria has been practising democracy for the past 21years,what have we benefitted from our govt instead they are looting us with reckless abandon.


Can u compare the progress china has made for the past 21yrs to Nigerian's 21yrs years of democratic rule?
When you come to that aspect, you have our leaders to blame. imagine joining isreal with pelistian is that possible i don't think it's now coming to nigeria why do the uk joined north and south that was the failure and down fall of nigeria as a country and secondly nigeria is not a nation with one language but a country with different language and the major ethnic group hating each bro you see progress is far from this country

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Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jul 15, 2020
TMwise1942:

When you come to that aspect, you have our leaders to blame. imagine joining isreal with pelistian is that possible i don't think it's now coming to nigeria why do the uk joined north and south that was the failure and down fall of nigeria as a country and secondly nigeria is not a nation with one language but a country with different language and the major ethnic group hating each bro you see progress is far from this country

No points made.

Stop using diversity as an excuse. Their are so many countries doing great with their diversity. E.G China, US and India
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by Missionaire: 7:27pm On Jul 15, 2020
IpobAntidote:
How's this a US big win?

US doesn't even have the 5 G technology....they will all still end up with Chinese technology sooner or later.


5G rollout in the US

5G is said to have download speeds 100 times faster than 4G. Carriers including AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile began deploying it in 2019. Verizon's Vestberg said last year that half the U.S. will have access to 5G by the end of 2020. The U.S. government was behind the launch as well.
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by TMwise1942: 7:32pm On Jul 15, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:


No points made.

Stop using diversity as an excuse. Their are so many countries doing great with their diversity. E.G China, US and India
diversity right, are those country your mention uneducated imagine your president oga fulani herdsmen half population of the north are uneducated so what do you expect unity or what

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Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by rhymz(m): 9:20am On Jul 16, 2020
GeneralPula:


That’s the truth!!
And the US does not have similar laws?

So how come Trump is able to compel Google, Intel, and other US equipment and chip manufacturers to stop selling to Huawei.

How do you think the likes of CIA and FBI are able to get some of the unbelievable intelligence they get on terrorists, gangsters, Mafia, Mobs and even other countries.

Do you know that a country can write to Google to give them information about their citizens activities and Google will oblige them?

Please get real with that bullshit about China forcing companies to cooperate with the Communist party, as if same stuff does not happen in the US.

And just so we are clear, every equipment manufacturers have backdoors in their equipments, it is just how technology works, when issues come that need engineers from the OEM that has provided the equipment, they get approval from the client to use the backdoor to make their repairs or fix any bugs.... Huawei is no exception.

Another fact, Huawei equipments are used on Europe a lot, and they go through all sorts of test from experts before they are used on their infrastructure. The issue here is not about security cos if it comes down to it, equipment from the US will fail that test cos many of them have been found wanting, including almighty Cisco equipments.

Like I said in my previous post, this is a straight up economic war between the US and China, leave that sorry ass story about security breaches, the US is doing exactly what it fears China will do to others if they dominate new emerging technology. Imagine a government having to ban its companies from doing business with another foreign company on the basis of politics and not any proven case of security breach.

We have seen the US threaten other countries, including her so-called allies from doing business with Iran to the point the EU tried on vane to create an alternative system that never materialised to anything. And today they have all bent to the whims and caprices of the power drunken thug in the white house.

The UK thought it could hold the pressure initially but soon realize that it can not have both the US and China as happy friends with them for long, they will have to choose between the US and China and they chose to the US. It has little to do with the technology or security but pure politics.
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by Nobody: 12:21pm On Jul 16, 2020
tomdon:




UK has not left

Dude.. they've left since January..
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by Nobody: 12:36pm On Jul 16, 2020
MERCHANDISER:



Nigeria has been practising democracy for the past 21years,what have we benefitted from our govt instead they are looting us with reckless abandon.


Can u compare the progress china has made for the past 21yrs to Nigerian's 21yrs years of democratic rule?

I just figured out the Chinese have used your brain to eat bat soup...Sense no dey there again..
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by Ndupal: 6:54pm On Jul 16, 2020
World war three preparation, China need to be checked before things fall apart.
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by Decive: 9:39am On Jul 21, 2020
The world doesn't need a overlord to protect itself.
Re: UK Bans China's Huawei From Its 5G Network, Hands US Big win by rhymz(m): 8:08am On Jul 29, 2020
linearity:


5G Technology is open source with 3gpp as the custodian of that technology and the US companies are chief contributors to that technology.

I believe you must be talking about 5G deployments and indigenous US 5G companies, which US does not have much of because, unlike China that the government can bank-roll a deployment, US is capitalist and profit based.

As far as 5G development is concern US is in the fore front, however labor cost have made off-shoring manufacturing a more attractive and profitable alternatives hence these components come from abroad.

The fact that my iPhone is imported from China does not mean China is ahead in iPhone technology. Economy of scale make it more logical to import it from China rather than manufacturing it locally in the US.

There were debates in the US around 2017 for the need for the US government to step in and deploy 5G using her huge financial power, just like is obtainable in communist China and it was decided against because they felt it will negate capitalism.

However, it means the US government have options to turn this around if they so choose, so I don’t see the lack of deployment as a disadvantage, it is a choice the US took, so that businesses and consumers can drive the technological deployments.

Before Covid-19, ventilators were mainly imported from China, but US invoked the Defense Authorization Act and ordered GE to start mass production, which they started doing. Which means, the technology was there all along, also the development was there....they were not just doing implementation because it makes no business sense to do so locally.
This guy does not know jack about what he is writing.

The US is not in front of any 5G technology. Huawei alone has about 15 percent of the 5G patents, when you combine patents from other Chinese OEMs like ZTE and the likes China alone has about 30 percent of patents on 5G....go and do your research and stop arguing blindly. Huawei is a dominant player in Telecommunications, there is no known US company that does the kind of stuff Huawei does at that scale, please name one.....the far distant competitors are Nokia and Ericsson and they are like 2 years behind the technology that Huawei is bringing in 5G.....please talk factd.

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