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The Heart Of Disbelief by sino(m): 10:55am On Jul 15, 2020
The heart of Disbelief

This topic has been on my mind for a while, and the present reality has convinced me the necessity of writing about it. What I see as an issue with us Muslims is that we have neglected our responsibility to seek for knowledge, learn our religion and make daw'ah accordingly.

First and foremost, whatever forms disbelief appears, it is still one and same, and no matter the years apart, disbelievers tend to think alike! This got my attention when I realized that the modern day disbelievers and the hypocrites all reason same way as the idolaters of Quraish and the earlier disbelievers before the Prophet (Saw)! Their modus operandi might be different, but their level of thinking is same! The most important thing about this information is that the Qur'an had captured all their fickle scheming and once you see the weakness in their plots, you would realize the folly of their ways and what they call to. So I'll be looking at some of the information about the disbelievers majorly from the Qur’an as revealed over 1400 years ago and you would see that they have nothing to offer.

NB: The Muslim section of Nairaland from time, has always witnessed influx of trolls, they seek nothing but to argue and waste your precious time, they are losers and have nothing good to offer, when you see their posts, ignore, they are called trolls for a reason, and if you can't do that, remember the below verse...

"And the servants of (Allah) Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, "Peace!"; (25:63)

So I begin...

1. Compromise on religion, call for reform

Allah (SWT) Says:

"They wish that you should compromise (in religion out of courtesy) with them, so they (too) would compromise with you." (68:9)

The disbelievers and hypocrites know the only way to make your faith worthless is for you to compromise on your faith. They push this under different guises and the most prominent today is the call for reform. They hide under different labels to push for this, but their aim is only to destroy the religion from within.

Some hide under the pretense of curbing the spate of terrorism and violence witnessed in some part of the Muslim world, but the question is, what sort of reform do they want for Islam when Islam clearly has rules of engagement in times of war and in times of peace? When you learn the rules Islam had established in times of war, which exempts noncombatants, women, children, elderly, priests, houses of worship, trees, even animals if not for food, then you would be forced to ask what reforms?! What reforms do they want when Islam prohibits suicide and hell is the abode of one who does such?! What reforms do they seek when Islam states that in a state of war, when the enemy seek peace, you should also incline towards peace?! What reforms do they want when Islam states that you shouldn't transgress or that you shouldn't allow hatred to deny people justice?! If all these are part of the Shariah, then it becomes imperative to ask, what reforms do they seek for Islam?!

If not the above strategy, they come up with liberalism or secularism. They want Islam as a religion to be confined in the Masjid and the society should be left to people's desires. They want to promote all forms of immorality in the name of individual freedom and human rights. What they fail to understand is that all these ideologies are the result of some people's desires. They claim to be seeking freedom of choice but yet force their way of life on others, once you disagree with them, you are labelled and in the new social media parlance, you are 'cancelled'. They have become like a cult and the people fear to even critically ask questions else the backlash would be terrible! There is no doubt about it, it is either you follow the dictates of the Creator or that of the creation.

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Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by sino(m): 10:58am On Jul 15, 2020
2. Attack on the Messenger and in some way Praise and Admit the success of the Messenger.

This is another scheme of the disbelievers, they intend to undermine the religion by attacking the personality of the Prophet (Saw). They go on a campaign of calumny and quote weak or fabricated hadith and in some cases they quote out of context or even lie just to paint the Prophet (SAW) in a bad light. But they are quick to admit how such a successful individual the Prophet (Saw) was, they might even praise him and say he was a genius. But all these aren't new, the disbelievers of Quraish and their likes did same. They claimed that the Prophet SAW was a mad man, even went to the level of claiming that he was a sorcerer! Yet, they admit he was an upright, trustworthy person and never was he evil-minded or immoral. But did all that stop the completion of the divine message?! No, the disbelievers plots all failed!

A beautiful rebuttal by Allah (SWT) towards the disbelievers of yesterday and those of today can be found below when Allah (SWT) Says:

" So remind [O Muhammad], for you are not, by the favor of your Lord, a soothsayer or a madman.

“Or do they say [of you], "A poet for whom we await a misfortune of time?"

Say, "Wait, for indeed I am, with you, among the waiters."

Or do their minds command them to [say] this, or are they a transgressing people?

Or do they say, "He has made it up"? Rather, they do not believe.

Then let them produce a statement like it, if they should be truthful.”
(Qur'an 52: 29-34)

These verses are instructive, for a madman cannot produce any coherent message such as it is found in the Qur'an, and a soothsayer can be easily found out, and a poet, can't maintain such brilliance consistently and with time, his fame would fade, thus the challenge to the disbelievers... It is more than 1400 years ago, still, the disbelievers are still digging in the same rabbit hole as their predecessors of old, the Arab idol worshippers!

“Indeed, We have granted you, (O Muhammad), al-Kawthar.

So pray to your Lord and sacrifice (to Him alone).

Indeed, your enemy is the one cut off.”
(Qur’an 108:1-3)

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Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by sino(m): 11:03am On Jul 15, 2020
3. Attack on the Qur'an

I remember when a disbeliever here wanted to attack the Qur'an and he was given the challenge of the Qur'an, well, your guess is as good as mine, he couldn't even write anything on his own, not to even talk of comparing it to the Qur’an! The disbelievers have used different methodology in attacking the Qur'an. They have claimed the Prophet (Saw) copied or he forged it and it isn't divine. Some have claimed it is a book of fairy tales... What is most amusing is the similarity of thought between idolaters of Quraish and these modern disbelievers! Allah (SWT) Says:

“Alif, Lam, Meem.

[This is] the revelation of the Book about which there is no doubt from the Lord of the worlds.

Or do they say, "He invented it"? Rather, it is the truth from your Lord, [O Muhammad], that you may warn a people to whom no warner has come before you [so] perhaps they will be guided.”
(Qur'an 32:1-3)

“Or do they say [about Prophet Muhammad], "He invented it"? Say, "If I have invented it, then upon me is [the consequence of] my crime; but I am innocent of what [crimes] you commit." (Qur'an 11:35)

“Or do they say, "He invented it"? Say, "Then bring ten surahs like it that have been invented and call upon [for assistance] whomever you can besides Allah, if you should be truthful."(Qur'an 11:13)

The above verse challenges the disbelievers and those who claim to have esoteric connections with unseen creatures or have the capability and capacity to produce the like of the Qur'an, and that it is not special to go ahead and bring forth a revelation such as the Qur'an and they should call for assistance from what they claim is the source of their revelations and let us see how truthful their claims are.

Allah (SWT) Says:

“Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion upon His Servant that he may be to the worlds a warner -

He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and who has not taken a son and has not had a partner in dominion and has created each thing and determined it with [precise] determination.

But they have taken besides Him gods which create nothing, while they are created, and possess not for themselves any harm or benefit and possess not [power to cause] death or life or resurrection.

And those who disbelieve say, "This [Qur'an] is not except a falsehood he invented, and another people assisted him in it." But they have committed an injustice and a lie.

And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."

Say, [O Muhammad], "It has been revealed by He who knows [every] secret within the heavens and the earth. Indeed, He is ever Forgiving and Merciful."
(Qur'an 25:1-6)

These verses addresses accordingly those who attack the Qur'an and claimed that it is a forgery or that it is a fairy tale. They deny the existence of God who is the author of the Qur'an, yet, they worship what has been created. The idolaters of Quraish worshiped idols, while today's idolaters worship philosophy, logic, science as well as their desires. When you ask them, of what benefit has all these brought to their individual lives, the clever ones among them would say enlightenment, and the question remains, has this enlightenment bring back the dead? Or solve the fact that we would all die? As it unraveled the universe and the purpose of life on earth?! Has the enlightenment given meaning to life with all the atrocities and natural disasters? They would quickly at this point hold on to science, but when you tell them that science isn’t the exclusivity of disbelievers and can’t possibly give all the answers to our reality, they go on a tirade and rants against God and religion. You would quickly realize their folly, and wonder that rather than them to give their supposed philosophical and logical answers to the questions posed, they keep bringing up more doubts and questions while the really less intelligent ones among them would continue to attack God and religion and at the end of the day, no meaningful information would have been presented. Subhanallah! How accurate Allah (SWT) has described these disbelievers...

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Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by sino(m): 11:08am On Jul 15, 2020
4. Prove that Allah (SWT) / God exist

You might think that this is peculiar to modern day disbelievers, but on the contrary, this line of questioning is as old as the time of Prophet Musa and even Prophet Ibrahim (AS). Prophet Musa encounter with the Pharaoh depicts an egocentric megalomaniac, who thought himself god and demanded prove for God Prophet Musa (AS) was talking about. Pharaoh was proud and demanded to see God, similarly, today's disbelievers would demand physical evidences for God. Pharaoh was shown evidences, but his ego and pride made him use philosophical argumentations to rationalize what he had witnessed. Of course, he realized his folly at the point of death, and this same end awaits today's disbelievers who are arrogant and proud.

So one might ask, what sort of evidences would convince a modern day disbeliever?

Allah (SWT) Says:

“Say, "Have you considered: if the Qur'an is from Allah and you disbelieved in it, who would be more astray than one who is in extreme dissension?"

We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?”
(Qur'an 41:52-53)

The first part of the above verse addresses the lack of wisdom of the disbelievers. If it comes down to what is at stake for decisions made, if there is God who had sent revelations concluding with the Qur'an, the disbelievers have everything to lose...The reason why Allah Says, they are the losers!

Man has gone to space, and have gone into the minute entity of a human being. They see the complexity, they see patterns, they see laws and order. Where they had previously thought there was nothing, they had found something, they are at a loss how these things came by, and as they keep exploring, they keep finding mind-blowing complexity in the universe and indeed in man himself! Are these not enough signs?! Nah! Just like Pharaoh, the modern day disbelievers want to see God before they believe.

“And when a sign comes to them, they say, "Never will we believe until we are given like that which was given to the messengers of Allah." Allah is most knowing of where He places His message. There will afflict those who committed crimes debasement before Allah and severe punishment for what they used to conspire.” (Qur'an 6:124)

These disbelievers would argue how impossible and improbable an IPhone could have no inventor if such was brought to them from nowhere, but they wish that the universe, the galaxies, the stars, the planets, the earth and life on earth should have no creator, but a random accident, and they bring up conflicting arguments to defend their claims. At the end of the day, they are following the dictates of the creation instead of the creator.

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Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by sino(m): 11:11am On Jul 15, 2020
The fundamental (a priori) knowledge of causality (cause and effect) is innate in every individual, when we observe all that exist, from what can be observed in space to our own physical entity and existence, we know that all these are beyond random accident, there must be a cause, this is what makes sense to us. The scientists for example, are able to make informed conclusions that the big bang is a most plausible occurrence by observing the effects in space, they can't possibly prove the big bang happened by doubting it happened and using philosophical argumentations for that would lead them to be uncertain regardless of all the observable effects of this process that they claim and since they cannot reproduce the big bang or observe it directly and physically in real time! So we see that even science relies on causality to propose theories and in some cases hold these theories has facts even if they cannot reproduce, repeat or have physical evidences for their claims. This also happens to be the case for round earth before the 20th century when a picture of earth was taken with a camera. The observable evidences of the effects of the roundness of earth were profound, it was just silly to argue with these observable facts, sillier would it have been using skepticism and doubts...

So why is it difficult for these disbelievers to believe that the evidence for God is just in front of them, yet they leave true and certain knowledge to delve into doubts and uncertainty?! Allah (SWT) Says:

“Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]?

Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Rather, they are not certain.

Or have they the depositories [containing the provision] of your Lord? Or are they the controllers [of them]?”
(Qur'an 52:35-37)

Each verse here is instructive, and they seek to get answers from these disbelievers who deny the truth. Apparently, as shown on this section numerous times, these disbelievers have nothing, and they call to nothing. They only but follow their desires... They hide behind so called 'knowledge', logic and philosophy, all which amounts to nothing but further uncertainties... Allah (SWT) Says:

“And Allah created the heavens and earth in truth and so that every soul may be recompensed for what it has earned, and they will not be wronged.
Have you seen he who has taken as his god his [own] desire, and Allah has sent him astray due to knowledge and has set a seal upon his hearing and his heart and put over his vision a veil? So who will guide him after Allah? Then will you not be reminded?

And they say, "There is not but our worldly life; we die and live, and nothing destroys us except time." And they have of that no knowledge; they are only assuming.

And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, their argument is only that they say, "Bring [back] our forefathers, if you should be truthful."
(Qur'an 45:21-25)

These disbelievers do not have certainty, they make assumptions based on their doubts, and the only argument when you warn them about what is to come after death, they mock and jest, they ask you if anyone had ever been back from the dead to confirm this. Of course, death is a certainty, and then, what these disbelievers seek to confirm, would be confirmed without the opportunity to come back to this world, or start arguing their philosophical doubts with Allah (SWT)….

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Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by sino(m): 11:16am On Jul 15, 2020
Finally, so how do we Muslims deal with some of these attacks from disbelievers and hypocrites?

Allah (SWT) Says:

“And those who disbelieve say, "We will never believe in this Qur'an nor in that before it." But if you could see when the wrongdoers are made to stand before their Lord, refuting each other's words... Those who were oppressed will say to those who were arrogant, "If not for you, we would have been believers."

Those who were arrogant will say to those who were oppressed, "Did we avert you from guidance after it had come to you? Rather, you were criminals."

Those who were oppressed will say to those who were arrogant, "Rather, [it was your] conspiracy of night and day when you were ordering us to disbelieve in Allah and attribute to Him equals." But they will [all] confide regret when they see the punishment; and We will put shackles on the necks of those who disbelieved. Will they be recompensed except for what they used to do?”
(Qur'an 34:31-33)

These verses depicts the activities of some disbelievers and their plight at the end of the day. You would know them by their arrogance and their denying the truth, they would spend their night and day plotting and planning, they would even be helping each other and meet surreptitiously so as to continue their attacks, on this section, they create multiple accounts and lie effortlessly, they prey on the weak and the oppressed, but no one will fall for their antics except those in whose heart is criminality. But they are all losers at the end of the day! The fact is that they have nothing to offer except doubts.

Firstly, Islam teaches and establishes in the Qur'an that, an individual's lack of faith affects no one except the individual!

Allah SWT Says:

"It is He who has made you successors upon the earth. And whoever disbelieves - upon him will be [the consequence of] his disbelief. And the disbelief of the disbelievers does not increase them in the sight of their Lord except in hatred; and the disbelief of the disbelievers does not increase them except in loss." (Qur'an 35:39)

Secondly, there are hypocrites among Muslims who pander to the disbelievers, they are quick to support them in their attacks, and find it difficult to disagree with them, upholding the dictates of Islam. The disbelievers love them because they know they are in cahoots. When you confront them they claim to be having 'intellectual' conversations or just joking and in so doing make mockery of the religion. When you see them, be wary of them and remind them of Allah (SWT). Allah (SWT) talks about them:

“And whenever a surah is revealed, there are among the hypocrites those who say, "Which of you has this increased faith?" As for those who believed, it has increased them in faith, while they are rejoicing.

But as for those in whose hearts is disease, it has [only] increased them in evil [in addition] to their evil. And they will have died while they are disbelievers."
(Qur'an 9:124-125)

“They hypocrites are apprehensive lest a surah be revealed about them, informing them of what is in their hearts. Say, "Mock [as you wish]; indeed, Allah will expose that which you fear."

And if you ask them, they will surely say, "We were only conversing and playing." Say, "Is it Allah and His verses and His Messenger that you were mocking?"

Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after your belief. If We pardon one faction of you - We will punish another faction because they were criminals.”
(Qur'an 9:64-66)

“[Remember] when the hypocrites and those in whose hearts was disease said, "Their religion has deluded those [Muslims]." But whoever relies upon Allah - then indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.” (Qur'an 8:49)

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Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by sino(m): 11:34am On Jul 15, 2020
Thirdly, these disbelievers are the worst of their kind because they are not interested in the truth and would never believe, all they want to do is follow their desires and seek companionship in their disbelief.

“Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe.” (Qur'an 2:6)

“Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe –“ (Qur'an 8:55)

“And thus We have placed within every city the greatest of its criminals to conspire therein. But they conspire not except against themselves, and they perceive [it] not.

And when a sign comes to them, they say, "Never will we believe until we are given like that which was given to the messengers of Allah ." Allah is most knowing of where He places His message. There will afflict those who committed crimes debasement before Allah and severe punishment for what they used to conspire.”
(Qur'an 6:123-124)

Fourthly, those who have disbelieved, their disbelief should not bother Muslims, it is a choice they consciously made and are proud of. They brag about their disbelief openly and work to spread such in the society. They know what they are doing and they deny the consequences... They have no harm they can cause to Allah (SWT) and His divine message, they can only try as their forefathers, the idol worshipers and their likes, and we know they all failed woefully at the end of the day!

“And whoever has disbelieved - let not his disbelief grieve you. To Us is their return, and We will inform them of what they did. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of that within the breasts.” (Qur'an 31:23)

“And do not be grieved, [O Muhammad], by those who hasten into disbelief. Indeed, they will never harm Allah at all. Allah intends that He should give them no share in the Hereafter, and for them is a great punishment.

Indeed, those who purchase disbelief [in exchange] for faith - never will they harm Allah at all, and for them is a painful punishment.
And let not those who disbelieve ever think that [because] We extend their time [of enjoyment] it is better for them. We only extend it for them so that they may increase in sin, and for them is a humiliating punishment.”
(Qur'an 3:176-178)

Finally, our religion is no joke or a thing of amusement, those who indulge in making mockery of religion are those deluded by this world, and it is all they seek, they are confused and in perpetual uncertainty. We should uphold the teachings of the Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Prophet (Saw), and convey the message of Islam by reminding those who would benefit from these reminders. Indeed a day would come when such reminders would be of no use, and each person would have found what he or she had sent forth.

“And leave those who take their religion as amusement and diversion and whom the worldly life has deluded. But remind with the Qur'an, lest a soul be given up to destruction for what it earned; it will have other than Allah no protector and no intercessor. And if it should offer every compensation, it would not be taken from it. Those are the ones who are given to destruction for what they have earned. For them will be a drink of scalding water and a painful punishment because they used to disbelieve.

Say, "Shall we invoke instead of Allah that which neither benefits us nor harms us and be turned back on our heels after Allah has guided us? [We would then be] like one whom the devils enticed [to wander] upon the earth confused, [while] he has companions inviting him to guidance, [calling], 'Come to us.' " Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the [only] guidance; and we have been commanded to submit to the Lord of the worlds.
(Qur'an 6:70-71)

“O you who have believed, upon you is [responsibility for] yourselves. Those who have gone astray will not harm you when you have been guided. To Allah is your return all together; then He will inform you of what you used to do.” (Qur'an 5:105)

These are some of the attacks of the disbelievers on Islam I have been able to pen down by Allah's Will, and you would see that their hearts are alike, no matter the era and time. Of course, this is just like a short note basically from my engagements with disbelievers on this section and elsewhere, it is not meant to be exhaustive, as there are more that could have been written, under these listed subheadings or even under new subheadings. The disbelievers would always try to defame Islam through these routes enumerated above, some more sinister among them would prosecute Muslims and ban religion if they do have the political power as seen in some countries, but they can only wish away the religion, Allah (SWT) will continue to protect and perfect the light of Islam, and it would continue to spread all over the world!

Allah (SWT) Says:

"And who does more wrong than the one who invents a lie against Allah, while he is being invited to Islam? And Allah guides not the people who are Zalimun (polytheists, wrong-doers and disbelievers) folk.

They intend to put out the Light of Allah (i.e. the religion of Islam, this Quran, and Prophet Muhammad SAW) with their mouths. But Allah will complete His Light even though the disbelievers hate (it)."
(Qur’an 61:7-cool

"Glorified be your Lord, the Lord of Honour and Power! (He is free) from what they attribute unto Him!

And peace be on the Messengers!

And all the praise and thanks be to Allah, Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)."
(Qur’an 37: 180-182)

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Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by lanrexlan(m): 9:57pm On Jul 16, 2020
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Jazakumullah khairan for this akhee. You just sum up the reasoning of these folks. They're not different, same questions with surface dressing.

May Allah plant our feet firm

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Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by tintingz(m): 12:15am On Jul 17, 2020
Lol. This thread is full of fallacies. I will try and respond to each. Pointing out it logical fallacies. cheesy
Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by tintingz(m): 1:36am On Jul 17, 2020
sino:
The heart of Disbelief

This topic has been on my mind for a while, and the present reality has convinced me the necessity of writing about it. What I see as an issue with us Muslims is that we have neglected our responsibility to seek for knowledge, learn our religion and make daw'ah accordingly.

First and foremost, whatever forms disbelief appears, it is still one and same, and no matter the years apart, disbelievers tend to think alike! This got my attention when I realized that the modern day disbelievers and the hypocrites all reason same way as the idolaters of Quraish and the earlier disbelievers before the Prophet (Saw)! Their modus operandi might be different, but their level of thinking is same! The most important thing about this information is that the Qur'an had captured all their fickle scheming and once you see the weakness in their plots, you would realize the folly of their ways and what they call to. So I'll be looking at some of the information about the disbelievers majorly from the Qur’an as revealed over 1400 years ago and you would see that they have nothing to offer.
Okay, the level of believers thinking is not the same? Like yall dont think the same?

I dont know if this is dishonesty or psychological projection.

NB: The Muslim section of Nairaland from time, has always witnessed influx of trolls, they seek nothing but to argue and waste your precious time, they are losers and have nothing good to offer, when you see their posts, ignore, they are called trolls for a reason, and if you can't do that, remember the below verse...

"And the servants of (Allah) Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, "Peace!"; (25:63)
oh save us the stress yourself, we have seen how some muslims left their religion in this section.

So I begin...

1. Compromise on religion, call for reform

Allah (SWT) Says:

"They wish that you should compromise (in religion out of courtesy) with them, so they (too) would compromise with you." (68:9)

The disbelievers and hypocrites know the only way to make your faith worthless is for you to compromise on your faith. They push this under different guises and the most prominent today is the call for reform. They hide under different labels to push for this, but their aim is only to destroy the religion from within.

Some hide under the pretense of curbing the spate of terrorism and violence witnessed in some part of the Muslim world, but the question is, what sort of reform do they want for Islam when Islam clearly has rules of engagement in times of war and in times of peace? When you learn the rules Islam had established in times of war, which exempts noncombatants, women, children, elderly, priests, houses of worship, trees, even animals if not for food, then you would be forced to ask what reforms?! What reforms do they want when Islam prohibits suicide and hell is the abode of one who does such?! What reforms do they seek when Islam states that in a state of war, when the enemy seek peace, you should also incline towards peace?! What reforms do they want when Islam states that you shouldn't transgress or that you shouldn't allow hatred to deny people justice?! If all these are part of the Shariah, then it becomes imperative to ask, what reforms do they seek for Islam?!

If not the above strategy, they come up with liberalism or secularism. They want Islam as a religion to be confined in the Masjid and the society should be left to people's desires. They want to promote all forms of immorality in the name of individual freedom and human rights. What they fail to understand is that all these ideologies are the result of some people's desires. They claim to be seeking freedom of choice but yet force their way of life on others, once you disagree with them, you are labelled and in the new social media parlance, you are 'cancelled'. They have become like a cult and the people fear to even critically ask questions else the backlash would be terrible! There is no doubt about it, it is either you follow the dictates of the Creator or that of the creation.
Oh Islam needs reformation mister. Many of your dogmas are very archaic and barbaric!

1. Killing of homosexuals
2. killing of adulterers
3. killing of apostates
4. Lack of freedom of speech
5. Lack of women rights
6. beating of women

And so many more.

Your religion needs reformation, if your religion is so peaceful, there wont be call for reformation, there wont be widespread of terrorists using your religious texts to justify their killings!
Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by tintingz(m): 1:46am On Jul 17, 2020
sino:
2. Attack on the Messenger and in some way Praise and Admit the success of the Messenger.

This is another scheme of the disbelievers, they intend to undermine the religion by attacking the personality of the Prophet (Saw). They go on a campaign of calumny and quote weak or fabricated hadith and in some cases they quote out of context or even lie just to paint the Prophet (SAW) in a bad light. But they are quick to admit how such a successful individual the Prophet (Saw) was, they might even praise him and say he was a genius. But all these aren't new, the disbelievers of Quraish and their likes did same. They claimed that the Prophet SAW was a mad man, even went to the level of claiming that he was a sorcerer! Yet, they admit he was an upright, trustworthy person and never was he evil-minded or immoral. But did all that stop the completion of the divine message?! No, the disbelievers plots all failed!

A beautiful rebuttal by Allah (SWT) towards the disbelievers of yesterday and those of today can be found below when Allah (SWT) Says:

" So remind [O Muhammad], for you are not, by the favor of your Lord, a soothsayer or a madman.

“Or do they say [of you], "A poet for whom we await a misfortune of time?"

Say, "Wait, for indeed I am, with you, among the waiters."

Or do their minds command them to [say] this, or are they a transgressing people?

Or do they say, "He has made it up"? Rather, they do not believe.

Then let them produce a statement like it, if they should be truthful.”
(Qur'an 52: 29-34)

These verses are instructive, for a madman cannot produce any coherent message such as it is found in the Qur'an, and a soothsayer can be easily found out, and a poet, can't maintain such brilliance consistently and with time, his fame would fade, thus the challenge to the disbelievers... It is more than 1400 years ago, still, the disbelievers are still digging in the same rabbit hole as their predecessors of old, the Arab idol worshippers!

“Indeed, We have granted you, (O Muhammad), al-Kawthar.

So pray to your Lord and sacrifice (to Him alone).

Indeed, your enemy is the one cut off.”
(Qur’an 108:1-3)

Your Prophet that kept slaves shouldn't be criticized? Someone who made many muslims do ridiculous things? Even Buddha is far better than your prophet.

Someone that said he sees and spoke to imaginary things, believe a flying donkey rode him to the sky isnt a mental problem? Please tell me if you will believe in someone that came to you and said he rode on flying camel to the moon, is the person normal or psychotic?
Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by tintingz(m): 2:12am On Jul 17, 2020
sino:
3. Attack on the Qur'an

I remember when a disbeliever here wanted to attack the Qur'an and he was given the challenge of the Qur'an, well, your guess is as good as mine, he couldn't even write anything on his own, not to even talk of comparing it to the Qur’an! The disbelievers have used different methodology in attacking the Qur'an. They have claimed the Prophet (Saw) copied or he forged it and it isn't divine. Some have claimed it is a book of fairy tales... What is most amusing is the similarity of thought between idolaters of Quraish and these modern disbelievers! Allah (SWT) Says:

“Alif, Lam, Meem.

[This is] the revelation of the Book about which there is no doubt from the Lord of the worlds.

Or do they say, "He invented it"? Rather, it is the truth from your Lord, [O Muhammad], that you may warn a people to whom no warner has come before you [so] perhaps they will be guided.”
(Qur'an 32:1-3)

“Or do they say [about Prophet Muhammad], "He invented it"? Say, "If I have invented it, then upon me is [the consequence of] my crime; but I am innocent of what [crimes] you commit." (Qur'an 11:35)

“Or do they say, "He invented it"? Say, "Then bring ten surahs like it that have been invented and call upon [for assistance] whomever you can besides Allah, if you should be truthful."(Qur'an 11:13)

The above verse challenges the disbelievers and those who claim to have esoteric connections with unseen creatures or have the capability and capacity to produce the like of the Qur'an, and that it is not special to go ahead and bring forth a revelation such as the Qur'an and they should call for assistance from what they claim is the source of their revelations and let us see how truthful their claims are.

Allah (SWT) Says:

“Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion upon His Servant that he may be to the worlds a warner -

He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and who has not taken a son and has not had a partner in dominion and has created each thing and determined it with [precise] determination.

But they have taken besides Him gods which create nothing, while they are created, and possess not for themselves any harm or benefit and possess not [power to cause] death or life or resurrection.

And those who disbelieve say, "This [Qur'an] is not except a falsehood he invented, and another people assisted him in it." But they have committed an injustice and a lie.

And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."

Say, [O Muhammad], "It has been revealed by He who knows [every] secret within the heavens and the earth. Indeed, He is ever Forgiving and Merciful."
(Qur'an 25:1-6)

These verses addresses accordingly those who attack the Qur'an and claimed that it is a forgery or that it is a fairy tale. They deny the existence of God who is the author of the Qur'an, yet, they worship what has been created. The idolaters of Quraish worshiped idols, while today's idolaters worship philosophy, logic, science as well as their desires. When you ask them, of what benefit has all these brought to their individual lives, the clever ones among them would say enlightenment, and the question remains, has this enlightenment bring back the dead? Or solve the fact that we would all die? As it unraveled the universe and the purpose of life on earth?! Has the enlightenment given meaning to life with all the atrocities and natural disasters? They would quickly at this point hold on to science, but when you tell them that science isn’t the exclusivity of disbelievers and can’t possibly give all the answers to our reality, they go on a tirade and rants against God and religion. You would quickly realize their folly, and wonder that rather than them to give their supposed philosophical and logical answers to the questions posed, they keep bringing up more doubts and questions while the really less intelligent ones among them would continue to attack God and religion and at the end of the day, no meaningful information would have been presented. Subhanallah! How accurate Allah (SWT) has described these disbelievers...

The Quran is very well a book of fairytales copied from previous ancient fairytales. It has been discussed here: https://www.nairaland.com/5095109/myths-quran

There are many ancient mythologies that finds it way to the Quran, it is in the link above. A book filled with myths and fairytales cannot be divine, a book filled with bad scientific approach cannot be divine.

And as for making the the likes of the Quran, it is a ridiculous challenge to begin with, it is like Stan Lee challenging you to make a like of Spiderman comics. What parameters do you give to meet up the challenge? Are they to make exact content of the book or make another version of the book? What exactly is the parameters?

The Quran didnt give any parameters for the challenge, even if anyone write better updated version of the Quran(which is obviously possible), the muslim will easily reject it because there is no lay down parameters for it, some will even call for your head for blasphemy. It is a dead end challenge and ridiculous. Many people have made a parody for this since it is a ridiculous challenge. I have discuss this here: https://www.nairaland.com/5084338/challenge-quran-produce-like-quran

Another question is, the Quran also challenged the jinns too(fairy beings), now tell me how are you and muslims going to confirm from the jinns if they have met the challenge? Did Muhammed thought of this when he gave that challenge? I have discussed this here: https://www.nairaland.com/5527082/challenge-quran-produce-like-quran

Anyone who sees this challenge knows it is ridiculous!
Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by tintingz(m): 2:56am On Jul 17, 2020
This will be more interesting.

sino:
4. Prove that Allah (SWT) / God exist

You might think that this is peculiar to modern day disbelievers, but on the contrary, this line of questioning is as old as the time of Prophet Musa and even Prophet Ibrahim (AS). Prophet Musa encounter with the Pharaoh depicts an egocentric megalomaniac, who thought himself god and demanded prove for God Prophet Musa (AS) was talking about. Pharaoh was proud and demanded to see God, similarly, today's disbelievers would demand physical evidences for God. Pharaoh was shown evidences, but his ego and pride made him use philosophical argumentations to rationalize what he had witnessed. Of course, he realized his folly at the point of death, and this same end awaits today's disbelievers who are arrogant and proud.

So one might ask, what sort of evidences would convince a modern day disbeliever?

Allah (SWT) Says:

“Say, "Have you considered: if the Qur'an is from Allah and you disbelieved in it, who would be more astray than one who is in extreme dissension?"

We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?”
(Qur'an 41:52-53)
Sorry mister you are referencing from a fairtale book. That is some circular reasoning fallacy. It is like saying Lois was shown evidence that Clerk is Superman in the comic so therefore Clerk is Superman and he exist as it is stated in the comic. It goes in circles.

I have asked why isn't Allah displaying himself today like it is claim in the Quran? Is he scared of the camera or only exist in the story book? I have discussed this here : https://www.nairaland.com/3793522/why-allah-more-active-ancient

The first part of the above verse addresses the lack of wisdom of the disbelievers. If it comes down to what is at stake for decisions made, if there is God who had sent revelations concluding with the Qur'an, the disbelievers have everything to lose...The reason why Allah Says, they are the losers!
You fail to admit that there are many books that claim to be from various Gods in many religions with different myths and commandments, so which one is true? Why do you believe yours is true?

Man has gone to space, and have gone into the minute entity of a human being. They see the complexity, they see patterns, they see laws and order. Where they had previously thought there was nothing, they had found something, they are at a loss how these things came by, and as they keep exploring, they keep finding mind-blowing complexity in the universe and indeed in man himself! Are these not enough signs?! Nah! Just like Pharaoh, the modern day disbelievers want to see God before they believe.
This is GOD OF THE GAPS FALLACY and ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE: Because we dont understand this therefore God exist, this is a weak old cliche argument by religious people, many religious philosophers no longer use this weak argument in a debate. FYI the Quran didn't explain the phenomena in the universe, it is scientists that are doing their best to understand things in the universe, if we are to stick to the Quran or hadiths for explanations, we would still be in dark today.

Ignorance of a phenomena is not the evidence of god talkless of Allah, there is no logic and evidence connecting to it at all, you're simply saying the idea of god is ignorance.

These disbelievers would argue how impossible and improbable an IPhone could have no inventor if such was brought to them from nowhere, but they wish that the universe, the galaxies, the stars, the planets, the earth and life on earth should have no creator, but a random accident, and they bring up conflicting arguments to defend their claims. At the end of the day, they are following the dictates of the creation instead of the creator.
Using same old argument, did you ask yourself what caused the inventor or you just want to ignore that to make a point?

First of all we dont know all the laws that govern the universe, you cant say the universe cant possibly exist itself. Secondly even if there is a cause that caused the universe what caused the causer? It is simple logic of something must come from something. So who or what caused Allah if he exist?

I have argued this here: https://www.nairaland.com/4955950/atheism-foolishness
Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by tintingz(m): 3:04am On Jul 17, 2020
sino:
The fundamental (a priori) knowledge of causality (cause and effect) is innate in every individual, when we observe all that exist, from what can be observed in space to our own physical entity and existence, we know that all these are beyond random accident, there must be a cause, this is what makes sense to us. The scientists for example, are able to make informed conclusions that the big bang is a most plausible occurrence by observing the effects in space, they can't possibly prove the big bang happened by doubting it happened and using philosophical argumentations for that would lead them to be uncertain regardless of all the observable effects of this process that they claim and since they cannot reproduce the big bang or observe it directly and physically in real time! So we see that even science relies on causality to propose theories and in some cases hold these theories has facts even if they cannot reproduce, repeat or have physical evidences for their claims. This also happens to be the case for round earth before the 20th century when a picture of earth was taken with a camera. The observable evidences of the effects of the roundness of earth were profound, it was just silly to argue with these observable facts, sillier would it have been using skepticism and doubts...

So why is it difficult for these disbelievers to believe that the evidence for God is just in front of them, yet they leave true and certain knowledge to delve into doubts and uncertainty?! Allah (SWT) Says:

“Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]?

Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Rather, they are not certain.

Or have they the depositories [containing the provision] of your Lord? Or are they the controllers [of them]?”
(Qur'an 52:35-37)

Each verse here is instructive, and they seek to get answers from these disbelievers who deny the truth. Apparently, as shown on this section numerous times, these disbelievers have nothing, and they call to nothing. They only but follow their desires... They hide behind so called 'knowledge', logic and philosophy, all which amounts to nothing but further uncertainties... Allah (SWT) Says:

“And Allah created the heavens and earth in truth and so that every soul may be recompensed for what it has earned, and they will not be wronged.
Have you seen he who has taken as his god his [own] desire, and Allah has sent him astray due to knowledge and has set a seal upon his hearing and his heart and put over his vision a veil? So who will guide him after Allah? Then will you not be reminded?

And they say, "There is not but our worldly life; we die and live, and nothing destroys us except time." And they have of that no knowledge; they are only assuming.

And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, their argument is only that they say, "Bring [back] our forefathers, if you should be truthful."
(Qur'an 45:21-25)

These disbelievers do not have certainty, they make assumptions based on their doubts, and the only argument when you warn them about what is to come after death, they mock and jest, they ask you if anyone had ever been back from the dead to confirm this. Of course, death is a certainty, and then, what these disbelievers seek to confirm, would be confirmed without the opportunity to come back to this world, or start arguing their philosophical doubts with Allah (SWT)….

Quick question, since scientists have not understand the universe completely, how did you arrive that the universe has a cause and the cause is god and that god is Allah?

And dont forget to answer your logic of causation, who or what caused Allah?

Lets see who the hypocrite is. smiley
Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by tintingz(m): 3:10am On Jul 17, 2020
sino:
Finally, so how do we Muslims deal with some of these attacks from disbelievers and hypocrites?

Allah (SWT) Says:

“And those who disbelieve say, "We will never believe in this Qur'an nor in that before it." But if you could see when the wrongdoers are made to stand before their Lord, refuting each other's words... Those who were oppressed will say to those who were arrogant, "If not for you, we would have been believers."

Those who were arrogant will say to those who were oppressed, "Did we avert you from guidance after it had come to you? Rather, you were criminals."

Those who were oppressed will say to those who were arrogant, "Rather, [it was your] conspiracy of night and day when you were ordering us to disbelieve in Allah and attribute to Him equals." But they will [all] confide regret when they see the punishment; and We will put shackles on the necks of those who disbelieved. Will they be recompensed except for what they used to do?”
(Qur'an 34:31-33)

These verses depicts the activities of some disbelievers and their plight at the end of the day. You would know them by their arrogance and their denying the truth, they would spend their night and day plotting and planning, they would even be helping each other and meet surreptitiously so as to continue their attacks, on this section, they create multiple accounts and lie effortlessly, they prey on the weak and the oppressed, but no one will fall for their antics except those in whose heart is criminality. But they are all losers at the end of the day! The fact is that they have nothing to offer except doubts.

Firstly, Islam teaches and establishes in the Qur'an that, an individual's lack of faith affects no one except the individual!

Allah SWT Says:

"It is He who has made you successors upon the earth. And whoever disbelieves - upon him will be [the consequence of] his disbelief. And the disbelief of the disbelievers does not increase them in the sight of their Lord except in hatred; and the disbelief of the disbelievers does not increase them except in loss." (Qur'an 35:39)

Secondly, there are hypocrites among Muslims who pander to the disbelievers, they are quick to support them in their attacks, and find it difficult to disagree with them, upholding the dictates of Islam. The disbelievers love them because they know they are in cahoots. When you confront them they claim to be having 'intellectual' conversations or just joking and in so doing make mockery of the religion. When you see them, be wary of them and remind them of Allah (SWT). Allah (SWT) talks about them:

“And whenever a surah is revealed, there are among the hypocrites those who say, "Which of you has this increased faith?" As for those who believed, it has increased them in faith, while they are rejoicing.

But as for those in whose hearts is disease, it has [only] increased them in evil [in addition] to their evil. And they will have died while they are disbelievers."
(Qur'an 9:124-125)

“They hypocrites are apprehensive lest a surah be revealed about them, informing them of what is in their hearts. Say, "Mock [as you wish]; indeed, Allah will expose that which you fear."

And if you ask them, they will surely say, "We were only conversing and playing." Say, "Is it Allah and His verses and His Messenger that you were mocking?"

Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after your belief. If We pardon one faction of you - We will punish another faction because they were criminals.”
(Qur'an 9:64-66)

“[Remember] when the hypocrites and those in whose hearts was disease said, "Their religion has deluded those [Muslims]." But whoever relies upon Allah - then indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.” (Qur'an 8:49)

Your thread is full of subjective, sentimental claims and fallacies. Dont forget to answer the questions above.
Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by sino(m): 9:30am On Jul 17, 2020
lanrexlan:
smiley smiley

Jazakumullah khairan for this akhee. You just sum up the reasoning of these folks. They're not different, same questions with surface dressing.

May Allah plant our feet firm

Wa antum fa jazakumullahu khayran brother. You know the most interesting thing is that most of the genuine criticism (and not their daily rants about their deep-rooted psychological issues) by these disbelievers have all been properly addressed by traditional scholars of old. These guys just keep recycling and they think they're onto some sort of rare knowledge or understanding, I just can't help but SMH at their folly.

Allahuma Ameen to your dua bro

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Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by sino(m): 9:33am On Jul 17, 2020
@tintingz,

Your "heart of disbelief" has been adequately established by your responses and duly noted. Thank you.
Re: The Heart Of Disbelief by tintingz(m): 12:02pm On Jul 17, 2020
sino:
@tintingz,

Your "heart of disbelief" has been adequately established by your responses and duly noted. Thank you.

Well, Read and learn mister. Your "heart of belief" is hokum. smiley

Wake up from your zombiesm.
https://www.nairaland.com/5978597/skepticism-vs-zombiesm-which-good

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