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Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Bacteriologist(m): 11:30am On Jul 28, 2020
Christians usually portray a meek, tolerant and accomodating image of a key figure of their religion, Jesus.

It would seem like this man that supposedly walked the earth some 2,000 years ago is the most blameless, sinless and perfect human to ever exist.

However, past experiences have shown that in religion, things are never how the followers claim it to be (Islam as a religion of peace comes to mind).

Looking more closely and HONESTLY at the life and the utterances of this Jesus, we find some truly terrifying and horrible teachings which would not be expected from such immaculate personality.

First, we all know that certain trees only bear fruit at certain times of the year, when it is favorable for them and their seeds. And absolutely nothing can make them do otherwise.

But surprisingly, Jesus cursed a fig tree for not bearing fruits off season because he was hungry in Matthew 21. It is kinda unexpected from a selfless, compassionate person to curse a tree that was unable to bear fruit in an unfavorable season.

Secondly, The teachings of Jesus in Matthew 10 34- 37 leave a lot to be desired. Asking people to love their families less for following you is a teaching that can only be found in the world's most dangerous cults. It is baffling and totally discrediting of a truly unique loving figure to utter these things and claim his followers abide by them.

What are your thoughts? Do you think Jesus is the most perfect human to ever exist even after these obvious and dangerous flaws? Or do you think it's just a case of usual dishonest cherrypicking where Christians disregard contradictimg parts of their book and just believe a particular narrative anyway?

Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Daejoyoung: 11:49am On Jul 28, 2020
Cursing of the fig tree in those days by a prophet was understood as a prophetic action against Israel the vineyard of God, you can read Jeremiah and those prophetic books to understand better.
Jesus cursed the fig tree and immediately prophesied against the temple. It was a symbolic action that the temple ( and the religious leadership of Isreal) no longer bore fruits and would fall.

Well, jesus statement against family is harsh but it is what it is. Christianity is not easy, and the disciples lost their lives for it, their families would obviously not have wanted that.
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:37pm On Jul 28, 2020
People offend or even Insult you, did you stay silent?

They wrongly accused you, would you be at peace and speak scantily?

If someone attempts to puts his hand around your neck, shall you not kill?
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:52pm On Jul 28, 2020
Bacteriologist:
Christians usually portray a meek, tolerant and accomodating image of a key figure of their religion, Jesus.

It would seem like this man that supposedly walked the earth some 2,000 years ago is the most blameless, sinless and perfect human to ever exist.

However, past experiences have shown that in religion, things are never how the followers claim it to be (Islam as a religion of peace comes to mind).

In this world there shall always be fake followers, foolish followers, bigots, lackadaisical followers and followers who claim followership.

No group or collection of persons is immune to these things and neither can they ever prevent same from happening to them.

Bacteriologist:

Looking more closely and HONESTLY at the life and the utterances of this Jesus, we find some truly terrifying and horrible teachings which would not be expected from such immaculate personality.

First, we all know that certain trees only bear fruit at certain times of the year, when it is favorable for them and their seeds. And absolutely nothing can make them do otherwise.

But surprisingly, Jesus cursed a fig tree for not bearing fruits off season because he was hungry in Matthew 21. It is kinda unexpected from a selfless, compassionate person to curse a tree that was unable to bear fruit in an unfavorable season.

cheesy And that is why we go to Him for

"He walked where I walked
He stood where I stand
He felt what I feel
He understands
He knows my frailty
Shared my humanity
Tempted in every way
Yet without sin

God with us
So close to us
God with us Emmanuel
Emmanuel

One of a hated race
Stung by the prejudice
Suffering injustice
Yet he forgives
Wept for my wasted years
Paid for my wickedness
He died in my place
That I might live

Emmanuel
Emmanuel
Emmanuel
Emmanuel

Don Moen!
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:04pm On Jul 28, 2020
Bacteriologist:


Secondly, The teachings of Jesus in Matthew 10 34- 37 leave a lot to be desired. Asking people to love their families less for following you is a teaching that can only be found in the world's most dangerous cults. It is baffling and totally discrediting of a truly unique loving figure to utter these things and claim his followers abide by them.

Shall yam and lion walk together? Or shall you eat thy food sitting in a dustbin? Or shall you live in your house with a brawling woman? Shall you sit comfortably in your mechanics workshop wearing thy suit?

Clean people love clean people not dirty-filthy persons, unless they are dirty-filthy Persons themselves.

So also, a Righteous man Must Hate People who Love to do Wickedness

That is what Christ was letting us know.
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Nobody: 5:38pm On Jul 28, 2020
Cursing a tree, saying adherents must love him more than their blood relations!

Obviously you're just joking my guy, nobody is on your throat so if you're ready to learn from the true Christians just signal to me and know why Jesus is the perfect leader of all times! smiley
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by CAPSLOCKED: 6:03am On Jul 29, 2020
Daejoyoung:
Christianity is not easy, and the disciples lost their lives for it, their families would obviously not have wanted that.

THE NUMBER OF SCIENTISTS AND NON-CHRISTIANS THAT LOST THEIR LIVES BECAUSE OF CHRISTIANITY TOPPLES THE NUMBER OF CHRISTIAN MATHYRS BY A TRILLION PERCENT. ALWAYS REMEMBER.

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Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by CAPSLOCKED: 6:04am On Jul 29, 2020
Maximus69:
Jesus is the perfect leader of all times! smiley

I CAN SEE ALL HIS INVENTIONS AND HOW THEY'RE HELPFUL TO HUMANITY DURING THIS MODERN TIMES.

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Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Daejoyoung: 6:36am On Jul 29, 2020
CAPSLOCKED:


THE NUMBER OF SCIENTISTS AND NON-CHRISTIANS THAT LOST THEIR LIVES BECAUSE OF CHRISTIANITY TOPPLES THE NUMBER OF CHRISTIAN MATHYRS BY A TRILLION PERCENT. ALWAYS REMEMBER.
Well that is true and unfortunate, but I am speaking about early christianity before Constantine and Rome got hold of it.

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Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Nobody: 9:00am On Jul 29, 2020
CAPSLOCKED:


I CAN SEE ALL HIS INVENTIONS AND HOW THEY'RE HELPFUL TO HUMANITY DURING THIS MODERN TIMES.

Just as you're seeing the lies and deceit all around you shey? cheesy

I wonder how you guys make use of your brains, despite seeing with your own eyes that majority around you love deceit, you failed to realize that the truth must be somewhere hidden, you just concluded that what the general populace say about Jesus shows that he's not real shey?
What about the group perfectly working out the benefits of Jesus' teachings? cheesy

You just want to debunk the existence of a legal tender simply because fake currencies are rampant! cheesy

You're wise jare no problem! cheesy
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by CandidSeeker(m): 9:15am On Jul 29, 2020
Bacteriologist:
Christians usually portray a meek, tolerant and accomodating image of a key figure of their religion, Jesus.

It would seem like this man that supposedly walked the earth some 2,000 years ago is the most blameless, sinless and perfect human to ever exist.

.....

What are your thoughts? Do you think Jesus is the most perfect human to ever exist even after these obvious and dangerous flaws? Or do you think it's just a case of usual dishonest cherrypicking where Christians disregard contradictimg parts of their book and just believe a particular narrative anyway?


Don't bother yourself about what pastors say about Him...

Kindly focus on what He says about Himself.

Jesus did not come to compete for the most perfect man...

He came to give us The Life that we missed by not eating from The Tree of Life in the garden of Eden.

He expressed Himself clearly:

*I Am The Light: John.8:12
*I Am The Way, The Truth and Life: John.14:6
*I Am the resurrection and Life: John.11:25


The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
-John 10:10

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believes in me has everlasting life.
-John 6:47
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Bacteriologist(m): 10:14am On Jul 29, 2020
Daejoyoung:
Cursing of the fig tree in those days by a prophet was understood as a prophetic action against Israel the vineyard of God, you can read Jeremiah and those prophetic books to understand better.
Jesus cursed the fig tree and immediately prophesied against the temple. It was a symbolic action that the temple ( and the religious leadership of Isreal) no longer bore fruits and would fall.

Well, jesus statement against family is harsh but it is what it is. Christianity is not easy, and the disciples lost their lives for it, their families would obviously not have wanted that.



So you mean looking for figs off season and them cursing the trees forever for not bearing fruits was a routine practice by prophets in the bible...hmm..

I agree with you, Jesus statement is not only harsh but has some key ingredients of a cult mentality in it. If he was truly as good as Christians say, he would not utter such statements.

It is not just what it is, with that verse Jesus is not any different from warlord Mohammed or a KKK leader or even the leader of a local university cult in Nigeria.
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Bacteriologist(m): 10:16am On Jul 29, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
People offend or even Insult you, did you stay silent?

They wrongly accused you, would you be at peace and speak scantily?

If someone attempts to puts his hand around your neck, shall you not kill?



What Jesus commanded has nothing to do with self defense. Off-topic.
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Daejoyoung: 10:18am On Jul 29, 2020
Bacteriologist:



So you mean looking for figs off season and them cursing the trees forever for not bearing fruits was a routine practice by prophets in the bible...hmm..

I agree with you, Jesus statement is not only harsh but has some key ingredients of a cult mentality in it. If he was truly as good as Christians say, he would not utter such statements.

It is not just what it is, with that verse Jesus is not any different from warlord Mohammed or a KKK leader or even the leader of a local university cult in Nigeria.
lol, just say you are not looking for answers, you just wanna push forward your opinion.
Jesus cursed the fig tree to symbolize the temples' fall.
What is Cultic about people holding firm to a course and dying for it?
Are freedom fighters also cultists?
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Bacteriologist(m): 10:20am On Jul 29, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


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cheesy And that is why we go to Him for



That's why you go to a man that asks you to hate your entire family more before you can follow him.

Says it all really...
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Bacteriologist(m): 10:28am On Jul 29, 2020
Daejoyoung:

lol, just say you are not looking for answers, you just wanna push forward your opinion.
Jesus cursed the fig tree to symbolize the temples' fall.
What is Cultic about people holding firm to a course and dying for it.
Are freedom fighters also cultists?


My opinion when the Bible verse is there for all to see?

Care to tell what's symbolic about hating your entire family before you can accept Jesus?

//What is cultic about people holding firm to a course and dying for it//

Wow! Easy to say when you're not the one dying. Suddenly you don't have a problem with people dying for their beliefs but you likely loathe Jihadists. Hypocrite much?

Freedom fighters are technically cultists. A cult is not necessarily bad. But asking people to hate their family and possibly dying before joining the cause is radical, over the line and outright fascistic.

If you can't see this, sorry, I can't help you..

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Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Bacteriologist(m): 10:32am On Jul 29, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Shall yam and lion walk together? Or shall you eat thy food sitting in a dustbin? Or shall you live in your house with a brawling woman? Shall you sit comfortably in your mechanics workshop wearing thy suit?

Clean people love clean people not dirty-filthy persons, unless they are dirty-filthy Persons themselves.

So also, a Righteous man Must Hate People who Love to do Wickedness

That is what Christ was letting us know.




Thank you for admitting that your family are dirty filthy people who love to do wickedness and therefore deserve to be hated before you follow Jesus.

For saner people, we don't think that of our family and won't love them less for a deranged likely-fictional Nazarene from the middle east.

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Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Bacteriologist(m): 10:34am On Jul 29, 2020
Maximus69:
Cursing a tree, saying adherents must love him more than their blood relations!

Obviously you're just joking my guy, nobody is on your throat so if you're ready to learn from the true Christians just signal to me and know why Jesus is the perfect leader of all times! smiley


Acting self-righteous and egoistic is how you get ignored on MY posts. Can you honestly fück off?
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Bacteriologist(m): 10:35am On Jul 29, 2020
CandidSeeker:



Don't bother yourself about what pastors say about Him


You mean don't bother yourself about what the BIBLE says about him... Because I have only quoted the Bible here and not any pastor.
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Daejoyoung: 11:14am On Jul 29, 2020
Bacteriologist:


My opinion when the Bible verse is there for all to see?

Care to tell what's symbolic about hating your entire family before you can accept Jesus?

//What is cultic about people holding firm to a course and dying for it//

Wow! Easy to say when you're not the one dying. Suddenly you don't have a problem with people dying for their beliefs but you likely loathe Jihadists. Hypocrite much?

Freedom fighters are technically cultists. A cult is not necessarily bad. But asking people to hate their family and possibly dying before joining the cause is radical, over the line and outright fascistic.

If you can't see this, sorry, I can't help you..
Symbolic about cursing the fig tree, not hating your family. You seem confused already.

The freedom many enjoy today, some died for it. How does that equate to jihadist blowing themselves up?

If the family of the freedom fighter stands against his course, then he must be ready to go against his family to become the freedom fighter he wants to be.
If you want to join the red cross to help society and your family says no, you cannot for love of family reject the red cross, it just simply means you must choose one. Reject your family's opinion if you want the red cross.
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by CandidSeeker(m): 1:37pm On Jul 29, 2020
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Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:53am On Jul 30, 2020
Bacteriologist:


What Jesus commanded has nothing to do with self defense. Off-topic.

grin
Your topic is Re: Loving, Gentle And Peaceful! Every act of love, gentility and peacefuness He Did, is always Permissible!
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:55am On Jul 30, 2020
Bacteriologist:


That's why you go to a man that asks you to hate your entire family less before you can follow him.

Says it all really...

Only a foolish goat would sit comfortably with an Anaconda!
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:59am On Jul 30, 2020
Bacteriologist:


Thank you for admitting that your family are dirty filthy people who love to do wickedness and therefore deserve to be hated before you follow Jesus.

For saner people, we don't think that of our family and won't love them less for a deranged likely-fictional Nazarene from the middle east.

And yet, many of them run here to Nairaland to cry "what my mother did to me: what my father did to me; what my brother did to me; what my sister did to me" and many shall.

Only a foolish goat will sit comfortably with an Anaconda.
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:07am On Jul 30, 2020
Bacteriologist:

a deranged likely-fictional Nazarene from the middle east.

And yet, ye are afraid of He who you call fictional!

Oh, the Fear has only Begun!

Just as it is Written "Separate ye, the Wheats from the Tares, the Sheep from the Goat"

Yet you do not want to turn away from your Wickednesses neither do you want a separation.

You want all to huddle together thinking if all are intertwined with the Children of the Lord, therefore, the Lord, shall not smite the Wicked.

Then, you have not heard that it is Written "Hand in Hand, the wicked shall not go Unpunished!".

But only a foolish goat will want to keep company with an Anaconda!
Re: Is Jesus Really The Loving, Gentle And Peaceful Figure Christians Paint Him As? by Bacteriologist(m): 6:42pm On Nov 17, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:

And yet, ye are afraid of He who you call fictional!

Yes I am scared of Jesus! Just like I am scared of Thanos lmao

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