When you see popular languages today, you may be tempted to think that they are perfect and even 'holy'. But if you hear or know what the speakers of those languages did to make their languages popular, you may even lose interest in learning them. Arabic Language is a case study here. How did people get to know about it? Majorly, it began with suppression of people speaking other languages and burning books written in other languages. We knew that English Language spread through colonialisation as well, but the case study here is Arabic Language:

Read the History below:

Pivadra 20: 1-29
1. When Murad took the position of Sultan at the age of 6 and half years, his mother Kosem said to him, listen my son;
2. I will support you until you are old enough to rule the kingdom yourself.
3. And whatever I command, that shall be done. The weaknesses of your tenderness must not be revealed.
4. Now Kosem taught her child many things concerning the Sultan position. She also taught him the Arabic language and inculcated in him that any other language apart from the Arabic is evil before Allah.
5. Now Murad grew up with that idea such that he hated anything which is not Arabic.
6. Then he commanded, saying, let all the lands within the Ottoman empire speak the Arabic language alone.
7. Now some philosophers visited Murad in his court and said, we have accepted Arabic as our religious language, but why do you now say that we should speak and write only Arabic?
8. Is the Ottoman language which we speak not good to remain the official language while the Arabic should remain the language of our religion?
9. For we philosophers and scientists love to make our writings in the Ottoman language which is more convenient for us and is well learned by many, both in this empire and in other lands far and wide.
10. Now Murad went to seek after Kosem his mother and she said, who are those who have the guts to challenge our authority?
11. Bring them before me so that they could be punished. So the philosophers were brought before the mother of Murad and they were all imprisoned.
12. Then Kosem commanded, saying, go and gather all books which are not written in the Arabic language. Let them be burnt.
13. For henceforth, anything which is not written in the language is unacceptable.
14. So 1,245 philosophical and scientific books were burnt in the empire. Then sixteen scientists and philosophers who attempted to hide these books were killed.
15. Now shortly after Kosem killed the philosophers and scientists, there was an epidemic, killing many, such that each day, about 1200 people died in the Ottoman empire.
16. Now in those days, it seemed as if there was no leader, for no one recognised the Sultan and his position because they said, the Sultan have sinned against Allah by killing the philosophers cruelly.
17. Therefore no one paid attention to the Sultan and his mother.
18. In those days did the Safavid empire come against the Ottoman empire and conquered. Then they took Baghdad from the Ottoman empire.
19. Now because of the series of events unfolding, it was believed by many in those days that it was a punishment from Allah upon Kösem Sultan who was the mother of Murad.
20. Because three thousand four hundred and fourteen people died in the Ottoman empire and even eight thousand and twelve people died of the epidemic which affected the Ottoman fiercely.
21. After the death of the founder of Shah Abass, the founder of the Safavid empire, Murad made himself strong again and took full control of the Ottoman empire.
22. Then he went and conquered the Safavid empire and took Baghdad back.
23. Then Murad went after the philosophers again, saying, during the days of my calamity, the philosophers have ridiculed the Sultan and his mother.
24. Now he killed 189 philosophers in the empire and sent 25 on exile. Now those whom he killed had condemned his habit of drinking alcohol heavily. For Murad loved to take alcohol in large quantity daily.
25. But the philosophers and those who thought deeply had said, it is better to take little alcohol and escape the danger of cirrhosis.
26. So Murad thought that the advice of the philosophers were actually directed at him, therefore he killed them.
27. He also collected the books which were written in the Coptic and other languages apart from Arabic and burnt them.
28. So Murad ruled for twenty-one years, then he had cirrhosis. For his liver became affected and his stomach became swollen.
29. Then he died at the age of 27, for he was in severe pain until his death, because he did not take heed of the instructions of the philosophers and scientists who had warned against excess alcohol.

1). you can't be discussing history without stating periods of occurrence
2). this pivadra book u were referring to, is it an history book? and written by who?
so many things don't just add up.....but all in all u want to reference it to the Muslims...Go On

@ Rerhji, it actually started from here. So we can infer that it happened in the late sixteenth century to the early seventeenth century, going by the date here.

1. Adom was a male homosapiens born in the 281,599th year of the homo sapiens era, which was also called 1599C.E.
2. Now Adom was born in Alexandria in Egypt. He loved philosophy and deep reasoning.
3. Now in those days, the Arabians had established Islam as their religion and they had taken many lands.
4. Egypt also had been taken by Islam, therefore they forced and punished those who still practised the ancient Egyptian religions.
5. Now Adom strove to protect the Coptic language of the Egyptian, because the muslims had imposed the Arabic language on them.
6. Now when Mustafa the Sultan under the Ottoman dynasty heard that there was one who philosophises in Egypt and also resisted the making of the Arabic language official in Egypt, he sent for Adom.
7. Now Mustafa said, tell me young man the reason why you reject the making of Arabic language official in your land.
8. Then Adom said, I am an Egyptian by birth and I do everything to preserve my language.
9. Now Mustafa was angry such that he twisted the neck of Adom immediately such that he died.
10. Then he said, they call me a mad man, therefore I will not cease to show my madness.
11. Henceforth let everyone who philosophizes or does anything scientifically in Egypt be brought before me and I will rid Egypt off these people who think that they are wiser than Allah.
12. So 208 philosophers and scientists were brought before Mustafa. Then Mustafa took the sword by himself and slaughtered them.
13. Then he commanded that no one in Egypt should speak the Coptic anymore, but everyone should learn Arabic language compulsorily.
14. So the Egyptians feared Mustafa greatly and they began to force themselves to speak Arabic such that the Coptic began to become obsolete in the land.
15. However, many of the Muslims did not like Mustafa, not because he killed the scientists and philosophers, but because he continued to do all the killings and executions by himself thereby polluting and defiling his position as the Sultan
16. Now a year after the death of the scientists, Mustafa was removed from being the Sultan and many people in Egypt rejoiced.
17. However, Murad his nephew who succeeded him did not cease to control and oppress the scientists and philosophers in Egypt and other countries in North Africa.

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Is this history real?
I'm tired of mainstream history and would like to go into legit history.
The history widely available is too artificial and heavily tailored if you look at it with a cautious eye.

WinningEleven:
Is this history real?
I'm tired of mainstream history and would like to go into legit history.
The history widely available is too artificial and heavily tailored if you look at it with a cautious eye.

Yes it is very real. It is culled from the Book of Universal History.

OtemAtum:
Yes it is very real. It is culled from the Book of Universal History.

Why is your God in a cage?

WinningEleven:

Why is your God in a cage?

God Almighty(Totality of Existence) can never be in a cage, because a cage is just an insignificant subset of God Almighty. Those in a spiritual cage currently are the unrepentant gods of religion.

OtemAtum:
God Almighty(Totality of Existence) can never be in a cage, because a cage is just an insignificant subset of God Almighty. Those in a spiritual cage currently are the unrepentant gods of religion.

Why are the gods of religion in a cage,?

WinningEleven:

Why are the gods of religion in a cage,?

There is a transition that must happen in many habitable planets of the universes. There should be a change from the Age of Pisces to the Aquarius age. The Age of Pisces is when humans and humanoids put religion above other things, but the Aquarius age is when Science is put above religion for rapid global and universal development. So the beings who favoured science above religion subjected the religious beings into a spiritual cage and this subjection will last for 1000 years, but it's now remaining about 996 years left.

OtemAtum:
There is a transition that must happen in many habitable planets of the universes. There should be a change from the Age of Pisces to the Aquarius age. The Age of Pisces is when humans and humanoids put religion above other things, but the Aquarius age is when Science is put above religion for rapid global and universal development. So the beings who favoured science above religion subjected the religious beings into a spiritual cage and this subjection will last for 1000 years, but it's now remaining about 996 years left.

Interesting
So what will happen to both parties after the 1000 year time frame passes?

WinningEleven:

Interesting
So what will happen to both parties after the 1000 year time frame passes?

By then, what the scientific beings want to achieve would have happened already. People of then will not find religious gods relevant anymore. If you tell stories of Jehovah, Allah, Ahura Mazda etc by then, people will just see them as mythical figures, unlike how people are seeing them currently.

OtemAtum:
By then, what the scientific beings want to achieve would have happened already. People of then will not find religious gods relevant anymore. If you tell stories of Jehovah, Allah, Ahura Mazda etc by then, people will just see them as mythical figures, unlike how people are seeing them currently.

So science will rule after every thing?

WinningEleven:

So science will rule after every thing?

Exactly.

Be aware of religious atrocities

OtemAtum:
When you see popular languages today, you may be tempted to think that they are perfect and even 'holy'. But if you hear or know what the speakers of those languages did to make their languages popular, you may even lose interest in learning them. Arabic Language is a case study here. How did people get to know about it? Majorly, it began with suppression of people speaking other languages and burning books written in other languages. We knew that English Language spread through colonialisation as well, but the case study here is Arabic Language:

Read the History below:

Pivadra 20: 1-29
1. When Murad took the position of Sultan at the age of 6 and half years, his mother Kosem said to him, listen my son;
2. I will support you until you are old enough to rule the kingdom yourself.
3. And whatever I command, that shall be done. The weaknesses of your tenderness must not be revealed.
4. Now Kosem taught her child many things concerning the Sultan position. She also taught him the Arabic language and inculcated in him that any other language apart from the Arabic is evil before Allah.
5. Now Murad grew up with that idea such that he hated anything which is not Arabic.
6. Then he commanded, saying, let all the lands within the Ottoman empire speak the Arabic language alone.
7. Now some philosophers visited Murad in his court and said, we have accepted Arabic as our religious language, but why do you now say that we should speak and write only Arabic?
8. Is the Ottoman language which we speak not good to remain the official language while the Arabic should remain the language of our religion?
9. For we philosophers and scientists love to make our writings in the Ottoman language which is more convenient for us and is well learned by many, both in this empire and in other lands far and wide.
10. Now Murad went to seek after Kosem his mother and she said, who are those who have the guts to challenge our authority?
11. Bring them before me so that they could be punished. So the philosophers were brought before the mother of Murad and they were all imprisoned.
12. Then Kosem commanded, saying, go and gather all books which are not written in the Arabic language. Let them be burnt.
13. For henceforth, anything which is not written in the language is unacceptable.
14. So 1,245 philosophical and scientific books were burnt in the empire. Then sixteen scientists and philosophers who attempted to hide these books were killed.
15. Now shortly after Kosem killed the philosophers and scientists, there was an epidemic, killing many, such that each day, about 1200 people died in the Ottoman empire.
16. Now in those days, it seemed as if there was no leader, for no one recognised the Sultan and his position because they said, the Sultan have sinned against Allah by killing the philosophers cruelly.
17. Therefore no one paid attention to the Sultan and his mother.
18. In those days did the Safavid empire come against the Ottoman empire and conquered. Then they took Baghdad from the Ottoman empire.
19. Now because of the series of events unfolding, it was believed by many in those days that it was a punishment from Allah upon Kösem Sultan who was the mother of Murad.
20. Because three thousand four hundred and fourteen people died in the Ottoman empire and even eight thousand and twelve people died of the epidemic which affected the Ottoman fiercely.
21. After the death of the founder of Shah Abass, the founder of the Safavid empire, Murad made himself strong again and took full control of the Ottoman empire.
22. Then he went and conquered the Safavid empire and took Baghdad back.
23. Then Murad went after the philosophers again, saying, during the days of my calamity, the philosophers have ridiculed the Sultan and his mother.
24. Now he killed 189 philosophers in the empire and sent 25 on exile. Now those whom he killed had condemned his habit of drinking alcohol heavily. For Murad loved to take alcohol in large quantity daily.
25. But the philosophers and those who thought deeply had said, it is better to take little alcohol and escape the danger of cirrhosis.
26. So Murad thought that the advice of the philosophers were actually directed at him, therefore he killed them.
27. He also collected the books which were written in the Coptic and other languages apart from Arabic and burnt them.
28. So Murad ruled for twenty-one years, then he had cirrhosis. For his liver became affected and his stomach became swollen.
29. Then he died at the age of 27, for he was in severe pain until his death, because he did not take heed of the instructions of the philosophers and scientists who had warned against excess alcohol.

Murad was a Narcissist,psycopath and a sadist.The world had always have the cruelest rule them from time immemorial.
This a turkish drama on kosem sultan subtitled in English.Start from Episode 31 for Sultan Murad reign.

Magnificent Century:Kosem


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2ZlLE4z__4&list=PLnwx3gJ3DrgoRhOisVsfczoG0egoMhyAz&index=2&t=0s