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| Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by illusion2(op): 6:41pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
A son of the winner of the June 12 1993 presidential Election, Chief Moshood Abiola, Lekan, who is the candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change for Abeokuta North/Obafemi Owode/Odeda Federal Constituency, in this interview with NIYI ODEBODE and FIDELIS SORIWEI, bares his mind on the state of the nation and democracy in the country. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Kilode1: 8:31pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
When people who should not be there end up going there, then they do what they should not be doing. The main thing is to bring the dividends of democracy back to their constituencies. It is not to start going to stuff your pockets. But I have met some of them; I asked them, bawo le se ma gba iru owo yi (How can you be collecting such money?). Many of them showed me text messages from their constituents – “My wife wants to give birth. Someone wants to get married.” One of them said, “Look I am sending N30,000, N20,000, N15,000 to party members. At the end of every month, N4m or N5m goes to all these people.” They said that if they did not collect the money, they would not have money to give to their people. When the lawmakers don’t give their people money, the people say they are useless. So I guess you cannot blame them 100 per cent too. This is because the financial burden on a representative or a senator is huge. But, if we can have a good government that can somehow turn this economy around, the burden will reduce. We have to sit down and decide what we are going to do about the Naira. We have to call a national summit.And the sharing continues. . . SMH @ isakole politics. “I came out for this position and they (some members) are telling me that your son is interested in the seat” He said it was true his son was interested. I asked, “What are we going to do now?” He said, “Well you can go for a seat in the House of Assembly or you can wait for an appointment.” I said to myself, “Why can’t you tell your son to go to the Assembly? And why can’t you tell your son to wait for an appointment? The fact is that I am older than your son.” That was what I was saying in my heart because I could not be arguing with Akinrogun (Osoba). [b]He is older than me and I have to respect him.In my heart, I said, “I have more experience in politics than your son. I have been part of Buhari’s campaign team in the past. Apart from that, I have been married for over a decade or so. Your son is not even married. So, why should I step down for him. The Electoral Act states that there should be primaries.”As long as we continue to mix our cultural socio-political ideas with oyinbo western democracy, we won't even scratch the surface of our political problems. Lekan believes the older guy should be respected, his word accepted and his interest should go above that of the younger guy, yet he wants democracy? Osoba is also using that same belief to push his own agenda. That is the same reason why constituents believe senators should give them cash looted from the public treasury. Our people are disconnected and confused about the workings of a western styled democratic and economic system. The politician too are confused. Mixing up oyinbo socio-political philosophy with ours is at the root of our problems. We are a confused people, and it won't end until we get sincere and address our confusing psychological issues on a national scale. We need a cultural revolution people. IMO, We cannot be both oyinbo and Africans at the same time and succeed. We have to choose one philosophy and make it paramount. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by jensinmi(m): 8:55pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
This interview is quite interesting and insightful. There really are many truths here. This gentleman is more intelligent than I expected. Several true points 1. Being about the handpicking of candidates in Oyo, Ekiti and Lagos. 2. His take on how it is not completely the fault of Lawmakers that they are given so much money. You should see how people line up with all sorts of letters and excuses at constituency offices of Senators and Reps to collect money. My Child needs school fees - N20,000 My daughter is sick - N50,000 bla bla bla - N30,000 Albeit not all our Senators or Rep are into sharing what they get with the people, a lot of them are under a lot of pressure to give money out to ordinary people and to their party men. A lot of our people expect to receive money and if they don't, they'll say their Senator is not performing. Until our economy becomes to improve and the needs of the common man begin to be met, this is the kind of politics that will continue in Nigeria. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by KnowAll(m): 9:59pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
a true primary is what matters. The fact it was not done, that in itself is a misnomer and not democracy. we should stop using that gentrifying word on our political system when it is clear we practice inheritocracy, siblingmotocracy and corronatocracy without mentioning Nepotism and favoritism. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by texazzpete(m): 10:08pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
jensinmi:It is not the job of a Senator or Rep to give out handouts to people. let them just say NO. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 10:10pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
Very interesting interview indeed. Not sure I agree with his sentiment that the naira should be strengthened. Main thing is that it doesn't get any weaker, that everyone feels confident that $1=150 naira for now and for the future. Stability, essentially. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by illusion2(op): 10:35pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
I wonder if Lekan went through primaries in CPC tho'. How he could join a party and become their representative in on go still smacks of the same (s)election system,he's trying to distance himself from. Aside from that the guy's ok,except his Talibanic 'gemu'. Kilode?!:Thats why we need to forgrt these 'western style' democracy and develop our own system. We have more senators than the US ![]() |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Nobody: 11:08pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
eku_bear:feck that ![]() three years ago naira was 128 to the dollar and dropping. that soludo Arrow weakened the naira, anmd the buying power of nigerians everywhere ![]() i still vex when i think of the ride i'd have bought if the dollar was still 128 naira ![]() |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 11:15pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
oyb:At times I wish we'd just dollarize the economy, like some other countries have done. Life would be so much better if you knew your money would always be good. Of course, if you do that then people think you want to enslave Nigeria, blah, blah blah. Lots of good ideas cannot be implemented due to old fears like this ![]() |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by KnowAll(m): 11:29pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Perhaps Soludo's re-denomination should be re-visited. The Ghanians went down that route a few years ago and have never looked back ever since. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 11:39pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
^- Does that type of stuff help? If you define a "New Naira"that equals 150 old naira, then you get 1 dollar = one "new naira." But does this fundamentally change anything? |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by KnowAll(m): 11:42pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
Does that type of stuff help?1 dollar = N1.50 NEW Naira. It works, because today in Ghana if u make c10,000 that is $7,500. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Kilode1: 11:46pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
eku_bear:I may not agree with you on the dollar issue, but I understand where that is coming from. We need to make up our mind as a people and a culture. If we want to copy, we need to be good copycats. Or the best, else we continue to fail. If we do not want to copy, we need to create our own systems totally and make sure it fits the realities of our culture and society. We will forever play second or third fiddle if we continue with this Abiku systems we have. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 11:48pm On Feb 12, 2011 |
KnowAll:I don't think that type of stuff works, it is just relabeling. Who knows, maybe there is some sort of psychological affect though. . . maybe you are correct. But replacing the naira as the national currency with say the US dollar is quite a bit more radical than what you suggest. Kilode?!:Me, I want to be a good copycat ![]() |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Kilode1: 12:00am On Feb 13, 2011 |
eku_bear:Of course you are an American ![]() Seriously though, I'll prefer a good copycat to a confused Nigerian. My people want oyinbo system and Nigerian at the same time. We need a collective national psychotherapy session ![]() |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 1:06am On Feb 13, 2011 |
Kilode?!:It isn't so much that I'm American so much as what I've learned as a student. Basically, it makes no sense not to copy. You copy and then build upon what you've copied. Reinventing the wheel from scratch is a bit of a waste of resources. First understand how the wheel works, master it, then build on top of that. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by bkbabe97y(m): 1:21am On Feb 13, 2011 |
eku_bear:Not true, just ask El Savador! But why the cries? The Won is like 10gazzilion to a Dollar, yet, S.Korea's economy is gonna better Ghana's for 2000 lifetimes to come. The problem is your country produces nothing of repute, outside of oil. . . . . Ever wonder why China would rather have its Currency with a lower value than all other major economies? |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Kilode1: 1:35am On Feb 13, 2011 |
eku_bear:It's been 50 years bro, probably 100 or more if you factor in the period we first had access to western systems of education and western philosophies Creating home grown ideas that fit your culture based on your own philosophies is not re-inventing the wheel, it's just practical. There is nothing wrong with a few tweaks and borrowing here and there to perfect the system. I'm not fanatical about these things. At least communism and even state-capitalism is not a wholly Chinese philosophy in the strictest sense, but they made their own brand of communism uniquely theirs. We need to do the same. This textbook adoption of western language, political system, philosophy and culture is keeping us down, that aside, IMO, we can never out-compete the originators when we use their system, they are not fools, there is a different way, if we look inward enough. Unfortunately, we are currently ruled by thugs not thinkers, so the confusion continues while this kind of conversation on a national scale is relegated to the back. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Kilode1: 1:45am On Feb 13, 2011 |
bk.babe97y:Exactly! they keep their Renmimbi low to keep export cheap, right? China has a culture that knows what it wants, they are telling the west; you can spend and have all the money, borrow and consume all you want with your freedom culture, but slowly and surely we will suffocate you by using our own austere culture to compete against yours. I think Germans are like that too within the limits of European liberalism, they relatively managed to avoid a lot of the problems of the last financial crisis too Germany is not a great civilization by copying every fad and China did not get a cultural revolution for nothing. . . |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 1:51am On Feb 13, 2011 |
bk.babe97y:Yeah, I've read mixed reviews about the El Salvador dollarization. But I think for Nigeria it might work out pretty well, since our biggest need is more capital (imo). But why the cries? The Won is like 10gazzilion to a Dollar, yet, S.Korea's economy is gonna better Ghana's for 2000 lifetimes to come.The won is quite a bit more stable, I thought? It isn't the exchange rate, but that the exchange rate remains stable. That is the most important thing. The problem is your country produces nothing of repute, outside of oil. . . . .Yeah. But it is hard to start producing stuff when you don't have infrastructure. And to get infrastructure, you need lots of capital. And to get lots of capital, you need loans. Since those loans are denominated in dollars/euro/whatever, the lender needs to have some guarantee that Nigeria won't devaluate its currency so that they'll be paid back their money. Dollarization is one extreme way to do this, another is to build up heavy foreign reserves and aggressively defend your currency. Ever wonder why China would rather have its Currency with a lower value than all other major economies?So China buys lots of dollars in order to keep their currency at some fixed rate to the dollar. The point of this is so that their own exports don't become more expensive. Anyway, I'd love for Nigeria to have this problem of exporting so much stuff that our currency is in danger of increasing. We are nowhere near that, though. First gotta start exporting. . . or hell, even satisfying local demand and reducing imports. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 1:59am On Feb 13, 2011 |
@Kilode?!:You are too pessimistic, imo. Labor is cheap in Nigeria. However, since electricity is expensive, capital scarce, and roads terrible, the actual cost of getting goods to market is high. We don't need to get rid of the current system we have; far better to implement it properly. 24/7 electricity at reasonable prices => factories sprouting up like weeds in Ogun State to produce goods for the Lagos market, etc, etc. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Katsumoto: 2:16am On Feb 13, 2011 |
eku_bear:You have a simplistic view of how fiscal and monetary policies work. In a country like Nigeria, a lot of issues need to be fixed before you start to contemplate pegging your currency to the dollar. A currency board has about 5 or 6 mandates which are sacrosanct. Even then, the main aims of a currency board are to fight hyperinflation and stimulate growth. Nigeria does not have hyper-inflation and as such, will not gain much from pegging its currency to the dollar. Nigeria can stimulate growth if it has visionary and sincere leadership. Read about the dollarisation of the Argentine Peso to the dollar between 1991 and 2002. Argentina was successful in reducing inflation from 3000% in 1990 to about 3.5% in 1994. But Argentina also had to deal with falling foreign reserves, rising unemployment, worsening income distribution, and stagnation of growth. There are many issues that can affect the success of pegging your currency to another currency such as vulnerability to economic conditions in the economy of the mother country, interest rates, price of commodities that the countries buys and sells, and external shocks. Nigeria should deal with issues of corruption first in its public and banking sectors. Without a transparent system, you are bound to fail with pegging your currency. For instance in a financial crises, you are unable to print money for bailouts (Nigeria needed to print money during the banking crisi) and raise money through increased taxes or through the capital markets. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Katsumoto: 2:24am On Feb 13, 2011 |
Kilode?!:Germany also suffered in the recession but it was able to pull out quickly due to both luck and skilled management. Skill in the sense that it does not have any major competitors in the production of machinery. Luck in that when its main market in the West suffered due to the recession, it was able to find other markets in Asia. German cars have sold more cars to China since the recession and Chinese factories are dependent on machinery from Germany. The German economy is too dependent on exports and it is vulnerable to economic conditions in its main markets. It's mittelstand model is praised around the world but German must increase internal consumption if it is to reduce its dependencies on external economies. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 2:34am On Feb 13, 2011 |
Katsumoto:What of foreign investment? The only purpose is not to reduce inflation. You do not think fixing the naira to the dollar will help with this? Especially given that currency risk is a big factor limiting the interest of foreign investors? I mean, to some extent our economy is already heavily dollarized, since our main export (oil) is denominated in dollars, no? Argentina was successful in reducing inflation from 3000% in 1990 to about 3.5% in 1994. But Argentina also had to deal with falling foreign reserves, rising unemployment, worsening income distribution, and stagnation of growth. There are many issues that can affect the success of pegging your currency to another currency such as vulnerability to economic conditions in the economy of the mother country, interest rates, price of commodities that the countries buys and sells, and external shocks.There would have been no other mechanism for dealing with the financial crisis other than printing more money? Why would the FG be unable to raise money through taxes or loans? |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Kilode1: 2:53am On Feb 13, 2011 |
eku_bear:Maybe I am. (although I think it's optimism) but it's not based on unrealistic calculations though, I'm not proposing these fundamental changes because I had too much vodka. I'm not an expert in economics, But I'm also not blind to Nigeria's economic potentials. IMO, Economics will not change Nigeria bro, Fundamental structural changes will. Our country is not just some market place, it's a society of living breathing humans, if we do not get the cultural and philosophical foundations right, we are heading no where, it not pessimism, it's reality. On labor, Yes labor is cheap, unfortunately labor will not take itself to the market, it has to be propelled, It has to compete and the system has to be right for it to operate profitably and benefit Nigerians, I don't need to be an economist to see that we have the potential to dominate at least the African market. I.e I know we have a potential market to die for, Coca-cola Hellenic just increased their stake in Coca-Cola Nigeria by buying off their very profitable Nigerian arm, now they own it. The same for several companies in the consumer/retail industry. Our population will keep growing and foreigners and a few Nigerians will continue to make gazillion dollars out of Nigeria in the next few decades, will that change the Country, hell no! 50+ years of oil exploration and production did not. The money will continue to leave through foreign capital flight, because we are beholden to a system that sees little value in the things that are inherently ours. and that is what we teach our children. We are all victims of the same shortsightedness that got us where we are right now. That is the basis of my worry, You may not see the connection, but I see it clearly. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Katsumoto: 3:00am On Feb 13, 2011 |
eku_bear:Foreign investment will come when there is more transparency and when the government improves its infrastructure. At the moment, Nigeria doesn't inspire confidence; when it starts to inspire confidence and does away with corruption and insecurity, then we might start to see presence. There are Nigerians in Diaspora who have had their fingers burnt by investing in Nigeria; many are being more cautios. Pegging the Naira to the dollar ties us at the waist to the US economy; we then lose certain abilities to manage our own economy. Like I said, we do not have hyper-inflation and we can stimulate growth through other means. No country that has pegged its currency to another currency has come out of it better. eku_bear:There are other mechanisms for dealing with a financial crisis such as reducing interest rates (monetary policy) or reducing taxes and increasing spending (fiscal policy). Increasing spending is dependent on a country's ability to raise funds in the capital markets. Nigeria got it wrong by printing money because interest rates and inflation are in double digits. This is one of the problems with Nigeria; there is no synchronisation of fiscal and monetary policy. Raising taxes increases the hardship on people as more people lose their jobs in a recession. A country's ability to raise funds through the capital markets is restricted in a financial crisis because of a lack of liquidity in the markets. Loans from the world bank or IMF will also be followed by austerity measures which equally increases hardship on the citizens. Having said all that, Nigeria does not need to borrow from the capital markets or the IMF because it generates enough revenue from the sale of oil. How many oil producing nations are going to the capital markets or the IMF? Instead, most other oil producing nations are building sovereign funds which are being used to invest abroad. Libya, Saudi, Qatar, UAE, etc all have sovereign funds. OBJ started a sovereign fund for Naija (ECA) but this has been depleted from $20b to $400m in 3 years. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Katsumoto: 3:05am On Feb 13, 2011 |
eku_bear:Labour is cheap but who wants to exploit the Nigerian labour when there is a perception that fraud and 419 is high in Nigeria. Secondly, education standards are falling and the world knows this. There are Nigeria doctors who can not pass their plab exams in the UK. There are Nigerian MBA students who score 700+ (through cheating) in their GMAT and are being found out in their MBA programs abroad. Even employers in the Nigerian economy are complaining about the quality of graduates coming through the system. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Kilode1: 3:11am On Feb 13, 2011 |
Katsumoto:Thank you for the clarification. Ultimately, it fits in with the message I'm strenuously trying to pass across; We need to enhance home grown ideas in all areas if we want to compete effectively or we go ahead and become master copycats, Currently, We are failing on both sides. The Germans are playing to their strengths in Heavy industries and Manufacturing rather than swallowing up economic fads that do not fit into their culture. I understand they were not as invested in the Mortgage instruments that almost collapsed the world in 2007 as their other European counterparts were. Right? If that is true, I won't be surprised, they are culturally more restrained more austere than most Europeans. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Katsumoto: 3:21am On Feb 13, 2011 |
Kilode?!:You are very correct with the above. No country can be a leader if it always copies. The reason China is still behind the US and EU is because it copies heavily and it is yet to respect IP. It has instituted a system to encourage innovation but the flaw with the system is that it pays out on patent registration rather than actually working prototypes. This has encouraged many Chinese to submits patents that will not see the light of day. As a result, what the Chinese are doing now is that they are buying up foreign companies not for the value of those companies but for the technology behind such companies. But even that can only go on for a while without a culture of R& .You are also correct about the Germans; they are culturally frugal and that is why there is opposition in Germany to bailout of profligate and irresponsible governments in Europe. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 3:24am On Feb 13, 2011 |
Katsumoto:I would, for one. Plenty of things I could do in Nigeria with cheap electricity. Tech stuff, but even just low-level manufacturing. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by ekubear1: 3:37am On Feb 13, 2011 |
Katsumoto:Well, if we have to wait until the Nigerian government cleans up its act to get better infrastructure, then we'll never get it. Pegging the Naira to the dollar ties us at the waist to the US economy; we then lose certain abilities to manage our own economy. Like I said, we do not have hyper-inflation and we can stimulate growth through other means. No country that has pegged its currency to another currency has come out of it better.Well, China for sure has come out better by tightly aligning their currency to the dollar. Panama and many S. American countries have done well by making the dollar their currency. There are other mechanisms for dealing with a financial crisis such as reducing interest rates (monetary policy) or reducing taxes and increasing spending (fiscal policy). Increasing spending is dependent on a country's ability to raise funds in the capital markets. Nigeria got it wrong by printing money because interest rates and inflation are in double digits. This is one of the problems with Nigeria; there is no synchronisation of fiscal and monetary policy.All the more reason to take the control away from the Nigerian government, if possible. Raising taxes increases the hardship on people as more people lose their jobs in a recession. A country's ability to raise funds through the capital markets is restricted in a financial crisis because of a lack of liquidity in the markets. Loans from the world bank or IMF will also be followed by austerity measures which equally increases hardship on the citizens.So financial crisis in Nigeria => Nigerian government cannot raise loans from say private investors, say a bank in the US? Why? Credit rating of Nigerian FG not completely tied to the strength of the banks, yes? Correlated, but not exactly the same. Having said all that, Nigeria does not need to borrow from the capital markets or the IMF because it generates enough revenue from the sale of oil. How many oil producing nations are going to the capital markets or the IMF? Instead, most other oil producing nations are building sovereign funds which are being used to invest abroad. Libya, Saudi, Qatar, UAE, etc all have sovereign funds. OBJ started a sovereign fund for Naija (ECA) but this has been depleted from $20b to $400m in 3 years.Not even sure there is enough money from oil sales to fund Nigeria's infrastructure needs. Possibly not even if all of it were spent on this single area. Nigeria needs a lot of investment in this area, more than just the FG can provide. |
| Re: Mko Abiola's Son Kicked Out Of Acn by Kilode1: 3:37am On Feb 13, 2011 |
Katsumoto:I so wish we can at least do what China is doing, that will be a good start. Like i mentioned earlier, even their communism was copied, but they broke with the Russian originators by implementing it to the teeth and putting a Chinese twist on it. I understand the danger inherent in a copycat system, no matter how good you copy, you are bound to trail the smart originators, But it's way better than what we have. It will be best if we can get some original thinking going though. Maybe I'm too much of a nationalist. . . |
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