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Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 5:45pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by MrBrownJay1(m): 6:34pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
NONE WHATSOEVER, both are charlatans! 1 Like |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 6:40pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
MrBrownJay1:Wrong, There Are Genuine Ones Too. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by kelltee: 6:46pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel: THE QUESTION THAT I get asked the most is, “What is a seer?” The response I give is different, depending on who is asking. There are three general categories of people who ask this question, and I answer according to which group they are a part of. If the person asking is not a Christian, then I cannot use Christian lingo to explain it. I use terms they might understand and mold my answer to make sense to them. I might respond by saying, “A person who operates as a seer can see into the spirit realm around us, similar to a psychic person. The difference is that a Christian has legal access to operate in that realm because Jesus lives inside of a Christian. A psychic has no right to operate in that realm, and it is dangerous for them to do so. God communicates to seers through visions, open visions, and dreams, as well as many other ways.” If the person is a Christian, but they have no familiarity with prophets and prophecy, then I would probably say something like, “Remember how in the Old Testament Samuel would have visions and speak God’s Word to others? Well, that is what a seer and a prophet do. God talks to seers and prophets in different ways; then they take those messages and declare them to the Church to bring vision, direction, and encouragement.” When a person who is very familiar with prophets and prophecy asks, “What is a seer?” there are usually a few other questions implied. The implied questions are various: “Does it matter that we distinguish between seers and prophets?” “Are seers in the New Testament?” “Who are the seers in the Bible?” and “How are prophets and seers different?” Since the previous two groups have just been answered, I will answer these questions in more detail. Q: Does it Matter That We Distinguish Between Seers and Prophets? A: The Bible is our example. If it is important to God, then it should be important to us. Scripture is not arbitrary in the use of the titles seer and prophet. Individuals were referred to as one or the other. This was not a synonymous term that was thrown around interchangeably. Here is an example of Scripture very specifically separating the two terms: “As for the events of King David’s reign, from beginning to end, they are written in the records of Samuel the seer, the records of Nathan the prophet and the records of Gad the seer…” (1 Chron. 29:29). God clearly distinguished between Samuel and Gad as seers and Nathan as a prophet. If it is important to God, then it should be important to us. Q: Who Are the Seers in the Bible? A: There are nine people identified as seers in the Old Testament. There are many others who operated at times in the gifting of a seer such as Balaam, Elisha, Daniel, and Zechariah, but they were never given the title of “seer” in the Bible. Only nine people have been given the name, title, and calling of seer. Listed here are the nine, the scriptural reference of their title as a seer, and the main position that they fulfilled. Samuel 1 Chronicles 29:29 Governmental advisor Gad 1 Chronicles 29:29 Governmental advisor Zadok 2 Samuel 15:27 Chief priest Hanani 2 Chronicles 16:7 Grandson of Samuel Iddo 2 Chronicles 9:29 Priest Amos Amos 7:12 Sycamore fig picker, marketplace minister Asaph 2 Chronicles 29:30 Worship leader, author of Psalms 50 and 73-83 Jeduthun 2 Chronicles 35:15 Worship leader Heman 1 Chronicles 25:5 Worship leader, author of Psalm 88 Take note of the positions that the seers fulfilled. One-third of them were governmental or marketplace oriented, one-third of them were worship leaders, and one-fourth were in formal priesthood ministry. Also we can see from Hanani that the seer anointing can be passed generationally. Many times the title of seer is applied to others such as Ezekiel and Elisha, but these nine are the only ones in the entire Bible who God refers to as seers. Q: Are There Seers in the New Testament? A: According to First Samuel 9:9, “Formerly in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, he spoke thus: ‘Come, let us go to the seer’; for he who is now called a prophet was formerly called a seer.” In our modern day we can lose the history and context behind biblical words. This verse shows us that in the progression of the Hebrew language; they blended the word seer into the word prophet and called them the same thing. A prophet and a seer refer to the same calling, yet the way that they receive their revelation from the Lord functions differently. The seers continued to minister in Israel, so this was not a dismissal of seers but merely a change in language trends. This is similar to the fact that there are electrical engineers, mechanical engineers, civil engineers, and many other kinds, with a world of difference between them, but for convenience we just say engineer. When we read the New Testament, we find no reference to the word seers. This is because the first-century reader understood that the word prophet was inclusive of both prophets and seers. (If First Samuel 9:9 had eliminated the use of the term prophet in favor of the word seer, then we would still have five New Testament offices listed in Ephesians 4:11, but prophet would be included under seer). When first-century believers read the words of Paul in Ephesians 4:11, they technically saw six ministries, not just five: “It was He who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets [the word prophet is inclusive of seers], some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers” (Eph. 4:11). Seers and prophets still both exist, and they are both called to deliver the prophetic word of the Lord, but they function differently (more on that later). Q: How Are Prophets and Seers Different? A1:A simple way to determine whether someone is a prophet or a seer in the Bible is to watch for the prophetic prefix they use. If, when they prophesy, they say, “The Lord would say,” then it is likely they are hearing the word of the Lord bubble up inside of them as a prophet. The root word for prophet is nabi. Dennis Cramer gives a great explanation of what nabi means: The Hebrew word for prophet (occurring 300 times in the Old Testament) means a suddenly inspired person. The word implies one who bubbles up, one who flows forth. Some might call this biblical phenomenon prophetic ef ervescence— the sudden bubbling up or flowing forth of the prophetic message from deep within the human spirit. Many prophetic believers, whether they are prophets or merely prophetic, will experience this type of prophesying. “Nabi” style prophecy is a spontaneous bubbling up, a sudden inspiration to prophesy with little or no foreknowledge. 1 A2: A seer would more often say, “The Lord showed me,” or “it was likened unto,” or “I saw,” and then an explanation would follow. Paula Price, the author of The Prophet’s Dictionary writes of seers, The Hebrew word for seer is one who receives communications from God more from visions and dreams than audible words. Prophets who say they saw the word of the Lord more than heard it is an example of this type of prophet. 2 Well-known prophetic author Cindy Jacobs writes in her book The Voice of God, Prophets in the Old Testament at one time were called “seers.” This means that they literally or figuratively saw things in the Spirit. Some of the prophets were more pictorial in their gifts than others, such as Ezekiel who saw visions of heavenly creatures. Certain prophetic people today receive their prophetic words mainly through pictures. Their prophecies will often be interpretations of pictures or inner visions they see. 3 Typically, prophets and seers teach others to receive revelation in the way that they receive it. For the prophet, this would be hearing the inward voice of the Holy Spirit. For the seer who receives revelation in a more visual way, this would be taught as dreams, mental pictures, visions that appear before their eyes (sometimes called an open vision), angelic messengers, and experiences in Heaven or in the unseen realm. There are many different ways that God talks to seers, so each seer is different. Some seers are almost strictly spoken to through dreams, whereas some have the ability to use their spiritual eyes and see into the unseen realm as Elisha did: And Elisha prayed, “O Lord, open his eyes so he may see.” Then the Lord opened the servant’s eyes, and he looked and saw the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha (2 Kings 6:17) .... Excerpts from " The School of The Seers" by Jonathan Welton 1 Like |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by MrBrownJay1(m): 6:57pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel: genuine how? like David Copperfield, David Blaine or Criss Angel?!?!? |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 7:05pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
MrBrownJay1:Criss Angel Is A Magician. Dis Has Nothing 2 Do With Magical Acts. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:06pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel: they are all magicians (dont you know David Copperfield/Blaine?!) so you actually believe that these charlatans have powers abi? and what makes you believe that they are any different than these magical acts?!?!? |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 7:16pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Kelltee, U Really Tried In Expanciating D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet. Dis Shows Dat U Av Really Read & Study Abt Dis. D Things U Explained Are True. Every Seer Is A Prophet But Not Every Prophet Is A Seer. A Prophet Hears More Dan He Sees While A Seer Sees More Dan He Hears. Dis Doesn't Mean D Prophet Doesn't See Or D Seer Doesn't Hear. A Person Could Be A Seer & A Prophet Too. 4rm My Experience & Encounter With Prophets & Seers, Seers Are More Sensitive & Flows Higher In Revelational Gift Dan Prophets. Dis People Could Even Tell U D Colour Of Ur Boxer Lol. Dis Doesn't Mean Dat Prophets Are Not Sensitive & Flow In Revelational Gift. D Seers Own Are Extreme. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 7:25pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Seen |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 7:39pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Brachaa:We Av Prophets Who Are Seers. There Are True Seers(prophets) There Are Also False Seers(prophets) I'm Telling U 4rm Experience. Read D Bible Passages Kelltree Commented Here. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 8:03pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel: Ok |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 8:11pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Brachaa:No, All Seers Are Prophets But Not All Prophets Are Seers. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 8:12pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel: I still maintain my stance. There's nothing like seer in the Bible. Missyajoke. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Missyajoke(f): 8:23pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Brachaa: Okay, what I want you to know is that there are 5 folds if ministry and the prophetic ministry is what am going to capitalize on, anyone who is a prophet can see into the spirit realm and can for see into the future base on divine revealations. There are different ways God can pass message across to people 1. Dreams 2. Vision 3. Thoughts. 4. Hearing ( if you're spiritually sensitive ) So for me God speaks to me through thoughts and visions. My conclusion a Prophet can be a seer because he passes DIVINE MESSAGES from God to peiple while a seer passes a message through means like oracle and different power source. Any one can be a seer but it takes a true man or woman of God to be a prophet. There is a difference. My point though. Thanks 1 Like |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Galactico4ever(m): 8:29pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Brachaa:2nd Samuel 24:11 , 15:27 2nd chronicles 35:15 , 16:7-10 Amos 7:12-13 There are other verses but I don't think you'll be bothered to check. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 8:30pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 8:32pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Galactico4ever: Ok. Let me check. Thanks. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Missyajoke(f): 8:39pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Brachaa: Have replied you check the previous messages |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 8:42pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Missyajoke: Never mind dear. Sorry for mentioning you in the first place. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Missyajoke(f): 8:47pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Brachaa: Have you read my message |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 8:49pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Missyajoke: Nope. Didn't know you sent any. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 8:54pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Missyajoke: Ok. Though my initial argument was, seer is not a ministry because op kinda juxtapose both of them and i wasn't sure its in the Bible either. With this now, they are simply the same. So no need asking what's the difference. Thanks 1 Like |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Missyajoke(f): 8:57pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Brachaa: You're welcome and a have a goodnight rest 1 Like |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 9:05pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Brachaa:There Are Bible Passages Kelltree Listed Here, Read Dem. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 9:10pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel: Seen. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 9:51pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
MrBrownJay1:I Understand Dat U Don't Believe In Things Related 2 Dis. However, I Know Abt Criss Angel D Magicians But I Don't Know Abt Others U Mentioned. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by MrBrownJay1(m): 10:00pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel: bro, all of them na MAGICIANS/TRICKSTERS dem be, just that some decided to use their craft to entertain people, while others use theirs to enslave/brainwash people. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by MuttleyLaff: 10:02pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel:"(Formerly in Israel, a man on his way to inquire of God would say, “Come, let us go to the seer.” For the prophet of today was formerly called the seer.)" - 1 Samuel 9:9 "Samuel answered Saul, “I am the seer. Go up before me to the high place, for today you shall eat with me, and in the morning I will let you go and will tell you all that is on your mind." - 1 Samuel 9:19 cc: Brachaa, Missyajoke, Galactico4ever 1 Like |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 10:06pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Ok. Thanks. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 10:17pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Thanks, Bro 4 Ur Enlightenment. D Problems With Black Men Is Dat Dey Don't Read Or Are Lazy 2 Read. 1 Like |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by Nobody: 10:20pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel: Ok. |
Re: Who Knows D Difference Btw A Seer & A Prophet? by MuttleyLaff: 10:38pm On Aug 20, 2020 |
Truvel:Stereotyping, prejudice and discrimination. Why do we quickly treat others differently and even hasten to talk of them, with hackneyed old sayings, such like this? Brachaa:If only more Christians, properly and correctly read their Bibles, there'd be less Christians. |
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