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Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 1:35pm On Aug 24, 2020 |
Are these people related to Yoruba? I'm kinda inquisitive here. Have met about three people from that part of Edo and they bear Yoruba names but cannot speak it. Anyone from Afuze or Owan east local government should shed more light |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Nobody: 8:43am On Aug 25, 2020 |
Yorubas and Bini are same people. So it shouldn't come as a surprise. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 10:29pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
MelesZenawi:They're not d same 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 5:53pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
MelesZenawi: Ogun dey kill you 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 8:30am On Aug 28, 2020 |
gregyboy:Must u behave like a village boy on social media? Beside he's partially correct 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 11:14am On Aug 28, 2020 |
Mraphel: You shouldn't have mentioned me, Oya prove we are yorubas since we agree Bunch of cowards, instead of you all to have self hate towards us because we used your ancestors as human sacrifice in the past and drove them from their own and and ruled them, instead, you guys are finding peace with us just to make your history worthwhile Lol, am i only the only person who see no good in yoruba people, you guys are just bunch of overpopulated senseless tribe If you say yorubas are original benins i will still deny it, una be bunch of cowards 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Nobody: 1:08pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
gregyboy: Haba, this is too much. Tone down |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 1:19pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
gregyboy:The last time I checked the real Binis have connection with the Yorubas unlike Igodomigodo like you. The first Obas are native of Yoruba land they drove your Ogisos to the wilderness and never will they come back. The Akoko Edos are still connected to Yoruba and Igala. While Estako are related to Urobo. The question I will ask you is where in igodomigodo are u from..check well is a Bini land. Igodomigodo now extinct 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 1:24pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
MelesZenawi:He's pained The Ogun he dey use swear was a past Yoruba Oba of Ife. He was Oranmiyan grandfather and he long ruled Ife kingdom before Oranmiyan came to found benin. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 9:32pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
Mraphel: Lol, funny man igodomigodo was a fairy tale name told to accompany the edo mythology on thd sky kings ogiso this were divine myth, told in the kingdom, you believing this myth makes me see reasons why you guys believe oduduwa dived from the sky with no head injuries when he landed The title oba is indigenous, the kingdom has always called edo, and a different version of it, by is neighbors are ado, idu and so on, Oba has always been the title, so stop lumping ogiso(sky kings) mythology into realities leave it the way it is and disgracing your education Please bring prove to the bolded i hope you wont run as your other colleagues did Yorubas have been trying to make our king yoruba since 1914 to get their history word wide acknowledged We allowed yorubas kings in the 30s bear the title oba for diplomatic sake today they are hijacking the origin as theirs 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 9:40pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
Mraphel: Lol, we introduced ogun to yorubas so get those myth of yorubas off your head, better still tell them only to yoruba people not we edos Bla bla bla even bini history that Europeans documented we can still find it out harc not to see errors, not to say from a tribe that never wrote their history or even documented them on arts Oromiyan is ogun father, so we are to believe this rubbish because you said it, or your oral history said so, mofos rubbish Do you want me to draw out samuel johson book on history of yorubas to counter your claims |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 9:55pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
gregyboy:Ordinary defeated Igodomigodo wailing. It must be very painful. Ogun was the third Oba of ife.. He was king before Oba oramiyan evaded Igodomigodo and changed the town settings to Yoruba Myths no be in d past kings 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 10:02pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
gregyboy:Your first king was Yoruba can't u listen? Not only in Benin alone but many towns in Edo state. Ibilo (the first king of Ibilo) was a Yoruba man from Ife too. Ogiso was never a myths because they were ruling Igodomigodo kingdom before Obalufon asked Yoruba warriors led by Oranmiyan to evade Igodomigodo. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 10:03pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
Mraphel: The word oba is not yoruba lets begin to retrace the truth Stop calling yoruba kings oba, call them their original titlle the title oba is original benin All this benin missups with yoruba history started few years after the benin-britsh war since we benins were badly affected by the war it took years for us to heal it took from 1897 to 1914 for benin to recover, at 1914 the kingship was restored and the new oba began making fast changes to bring benin closer to then growing country, he made some diplomatic relationships with the yoruba kings, and he even was seen learning and participating in yoruba festival to create a friendly diplomatic relationship that was the beginning of benin rewriting their history to accommodate yorubas, for ethnic and political favour, untill early 1930s, yorubas began to use the title oba as a term fir general word for kings, the benins never objected this, since the long lasting relationship has been there Benin never objected this...... The relationship between benin and Yoruba has been a long time parasitic relationship which must end, we thought it would be a symbiotic one, but little did our kings know, the tribe of cowards had nothing to offer even with their numerous population 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 10:04pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
Mraphel: Ooh fine can we see the proves to the wars do you expect me to swim in your myth . Or do you kniw the history of my people more than me, Yoruba should have sins reproach, you think history is took on the useless baseless facts of myth....... Everyone can say anytime and can even write ogun was a Yoruba man who was originally the first superman the world had, Myth and facts are words, but one lack evidence the other dont |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 10:18pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
Mraphel: � This guy The myth said oromiyan was oduduwa son, you psycho came from know were to say ogun was the grandfather of oromiyan lol That means ogun son gave birth to oromiyan and Not oduduwa You see why myths should not be used in telling history Arguing with a tribe who never had their history documented even on stone before the arrival of the British is useless |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 11:25pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
gregyboy:That's Yoruba language barrier for you Your grandfather will still refer to you as his son. Oranmiyan was Oduduwa's great grandsons No Yoruba will ever say Oduduwa birthed Oranmiyan Oduduwa was Oramiyan's great grandfather. Ogun's son gave birth to Oranmiyan that's correct. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 11:27pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
The account that says Oronmiyan was Oduduwa's direct son is mostly from Edo and Igodomigodo not South west 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 11:38pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
Mraphel: Yorubas with thier madness, take your madness away from edo history, I nor blame yoruba na benin people when invite then to come destroy their history i blame If you like say whatever history that suit you the fact remains oduduwa never existed most yorubas are just hijacking the history to give their clan supiority, so they try to bring the fairytale guy into existence to claim him, |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 11:39pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
gregyboy:False. Titles is different from the word king You can have titles and not be a king. What qualifies you to be King is Oba. Benin adopted Oba through Ife Prince that faught off Ogisos off. Also he renamed the city. Ife people were the Early king makers. It was Ooni of Ife that funded prince Oronmiyan with Yoruba soldiers to defeat the Igodomigodo soldiers. Check any Yoruba kings Oba must be in the name. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 11:43pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
gregyboy:Oduduwa not a myths and his Palace ground is in Ife. His people are still the inhabitants of the SW and many of his descendants are kings till today 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 11:45pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
Mraphel: The man who thinks in myth, have you left the south region before for atleast a year |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 11:49pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
Mraphel: Lol, i dont believe you Come with prove..... Archaeological evidence and also European evidence, on the record of the war Again what year did Oronmiyan reign |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 11:52pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
gregyboy:New Oba in Benin must fight a mock war with the Ogisos of Benin and conquer. One of Antecedents set by the first Oba. Part of d evidence that proved Ogisos were really defeated. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 12:10am On Aug 29, 2020 |
Mraphel: What if i tell you that war wasnt related to ife and was completely indigenous with prove from a European docunent who took the original history before the creation of nigeria The new version of the history was the one that accommodated ife and the nonsense ..... Dont worry i have the screenshot in my gallery when i bump into it i will attach it But let me brief you what was written in the original contest recorded by the European Ekalderhan who was a prince was banished to east of benin were he founded ughoton and later came back and waged war with ogiemen, which they came up in a truce after the war..... Eweka, neither oromiyan was mentioned in the European contest do you know is the benin people that ultered the history to accomidatw ife to gain supiority with the Ekaladerhan tales over the ife narrative of supiority , i wouldn't want to explain this further You're sleeping... My friend wake up..... Instead of arguing go and do further research Let me school you further the original benin-ife myth told never contained oromiyan or oyo in it , Oyo was later brought into the myth much later to balance the supiority battle between alafin and ooni..... To make it ooni first, oyo second, benin third in hierarchy Stop talking in myth.... I prefer arguing with TAO11 |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by TAO11(f): 12:22am On Aug 29, 2020 |
gregyboy:More like you prefer being flogged by Tao. Stop “famzing” me to give yourself some validation. You still remain very insecure and ignorant despite the years of flogging. cc: Mraphel 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by gregyboy(m): 12:31am On Aug 29, 2020 |
TAO11: Hey i still have not read your book, i would be coming for your head when i do, The book is stressing me to read the format i have is not compactable If you know were i can download a compatible one let me know or send me links On the quote you gave on roupell i noticed, the myth writte by roupell never included oromiyan or oyo in the quote........ Making it already fishy TAO11 in your next life you can never flog me as far as you are a yoruba person, you all will always be under benin just as we used your ancestors as slaves and ruled them in lagos I like dragging you here when my dick is hard |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by TAO11(f): 12:44am On Aug 29, 2020 |
gregyboy:I know you’re still suffering from the PTSD I inflicted on you. I hope you get out of it alive. 8 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 8:31am On Aug 29, 2020 |
gregyboy:Who are the ancestors you used as slaves? Yoruba from Benin ruled Yoruba in Lagos..go and check their names. You like claiming what you're not. Benin was once Yoruba land after Igodomigodo, una use Nigeria to gain independence. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Mraphel: 8:56am On Aug 29, 2020 |
gregyboy:I'm unconcerned about the hierarchy but a foreigner cannot successfully rule people that you don't understand their language, tradition and culture A visitor cannot become king of a whole kingdom overnight. Also Oduduwa was not the direct father of Oranmiyan There's no myth here my brother based on my own research. Oranmiyan started the war right from Oba-ile (near Akure) and won towns and territories upto Benin. He was a warrior not a cool headed legend like Benin narratives depicts him. He used Yoruba soldiers allotted to him by king Obalufon to win the war.(it was Ife vs Igodomigodo). Ogiemen had Ogiso kings he defeated and their remnants still exists in Edo till today. The original Igodomigodo knew Oba were foreign and tenant in Benin. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by legitnow: 8:58am On Aug 29, 2020 |
MelesZenawi: MAKE OGISO CATCH! YA FADA! |
Re: Why Do Afuze And People From Owan East Bear Yoruba Names by Nobody: 9:10am On Aug 29, 2020 |
legitnow: First and foremost you are not Bini.. Learn to mind your business. |
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