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Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Acehart: 3:03pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
Janosky: My friend, I read the NWT sometimes; so don’t think I think it is fake. Have we met? You mentioned tithes - have you collected one from me? If I say you are a bitter person, you will be doing one kind. Your fight shouldn’t be with me, my friend. We aren’t discussing about Bible versions, so let our conviction speak; what is the meaning of “God”? Please tell me in your own words, your own conviction. 1 Like |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 3:08pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: sonmvayina:"How horrible it will be for the one who quarrels with his Maker. (i.e. Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker ...) He is pottery among other earthenware pots. (i.e. those who are nothing but potsherds among the potsherds on the ground) Does the clay ask the one who shapes it, "What are you making?" Does your work say to you, "There are no handles"?" - Isaiah 45:9 "How foolish can you be? He is the Potter, and he is certainly greater than you, the clay! Should the created thing say of the one who made it, “He didn’t make me”? Does a jar ever say, “The potter who made me is stupid”?" - Isaiah 29:16 "But, my friend, I ask, "Who do you think you are to question God? Does the clay have the right to ask the potter why he shaped it the way he did? " - Romans 9:20 Why cant you at least be original, instead of repeating after me, the same line, I already have used before you. Cant you for the life of you, try and be a bit different and have the ability to say a different/new line or think originally, hmm? I reiterate, Bible 101, never use the same human yardstick to compare and judge God with. Mtcheew. KMT 1 Like |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by sonmvayina(m): 3:35pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Thst is not what i asked...how can the maker also be part of his creation..you are just beating about the bush |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 3:56pm On Sep 05, 2020 |
sonmvayina:You don't understand what you are asking. My friend, you find it incomprehensible that the Maker can be part of His creation because you dont know/understand that Him being part of creation is part of the end justify the means (i.e. the means of being part of His creation) 2 Likes |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Acehart: 8:38am On Sep 06, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: I think his responses are rather not well thought of than dishonest. In continuum mechanics, the projection is always equal in magnitude to its sources (sorry for bringing this in here). The projection is always mutually exclusive. Yet he says the projection is not separate. 1 Like |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Acehart: 9:13am On Sep 06, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness”. I wish I could paraphrase accurately that verse in the Book of Genesis. Remember those three laws of robotics - Asimov’s three laws? Here they are: 1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law. In iRobot, one robot decides to ignore the three laws and another decides to uphold the three laws. Concerning the later, V.I.K.I., the mainstream computer, with her superior intelligence decided that the three laws allow for the development of a broader morality. Recognising that humanity is set on a course of destruction, she determines that the sacrifice of humanity's freedoms is essential. On top of that, some people must be killed for the greater good of the remaining humans. Concerning the former, the who ignored the three laws, Sonny transformed into a human, having human-like dreams and thoughts. Why I speak about the Asimov’s law is this: V.I.K.I by implementing of the laws, acts like a god. But she is a creation; What gives her the right to choose who to exterminate? But she does so by being involved in the everyday life of her creators. So by Laws (embedded in that part of the verse) known to God, He can decide to be part of the earth. |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by sonmvayina(m): 11:01am On Sep 06, 2020 |
Acehart: He ceases to be God... Because he will be limited by time and space.. Does not even make a remote sense at all... So how can Steve job be part of iPhone, assuming he is still alive.. Or Mr Toyoda be part of Toyota camry.. Visualize it.. |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Acehart: 12:15pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
sonmvayina: You are correct. He was limited. We Christians say Christ was the God-man. He ceased to be God in many instances; where He was 100 percent limited by time and space-this He chose; and rather than annihilating many for the good of few like V.I.K.I chose to, He decided to kill one person for the good of many. For V.I.K.I to implement the three laws, she had to be involved in human life through the utility of robots; for God to execute the requirements of the law, He had to be involved through the utility of human flesh. Cars don’t employ intelligence and fluid laws. The only ways the makers can be involved in their products are through voice or video messages. If cars were made to assume the form and DNA of their makers, then there would be a way for the makers to transform into the form of their creation. If you look at the creation of Victor Frankenstein, part of his alchemy was a sample of his blood. The monster he created was intelligent and non-violent until he didn’t fit into the world. With Victor’s formula, even in death, he could be reborn in the form of his creature. It all depends on the laws of the creator which no creature can fathom with his limited mind. |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Eagban(m): 1:07pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Acehart:The NWT is absolutely fake..! 1 Like |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Nobody: 1:27pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Eagban:Your PERSONAL opinion! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Eagban(m): 1:35pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Maximus69: The NWT is a perversion of the Bible translated by a committee that have little or no knowledge of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. 3 Likes |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by sonmvayina(m): 2:15pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Eagban: Fact.. 2 Likes |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Nobody: 2:42pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Eagban: Well that translation has helped in gathering over 8,700,000 individuals from different races under the heavens and made them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} that's the main reason why Jesus of Nazareth preached and taught people for over three and a half years, God's word referred to him as the Prince whose counseling will bring about global PEACE {Isaiah 9:6-7} and he prayed fervently for his followers to achieve it! John 17:21-23 So just present a better performing committee and let's see the BENEFITS of what they are able to translate out of God's word {Hebrew 4:12} it's not by assertion but what all eyes can see! Matthew 5:13-16, 7:16-18 compare to James 2:18-26 1 Like |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Janosky: 3:20pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Eagban:FALSE claim. Bros, go and study the Preface of the New Word Translation and stop deceiving yourself. So you have to sink this low to resort to Desperado tactics ? God dey use accumulation of Paper qualifications to choose who enters the kingdom of God? |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Janosky: 3:30pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Acehart: Bros, no be fight, I have no bitterness in my bones Your claim is FALSE. Those scriptures I cited on this thread shaped my convictions about God. Bros, you don't need any paper qualifications to understand John 20:17, John 17:3, John 14:28, John 11:27,Ephesians 4:6 or Revelations 3:5,12. These verses are in all Bibles, including yours |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Janosky: 3:32pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Bros, your claim is FALSE. However, freedom of speech is your fundamental rights, exercise it. |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Acehart: 3:32pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Janosky: Welcome from the field. You haven’t answered my question. If you wouldn’t answer, no wahala. Rest. |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Janosky: 3:36pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Acehart:I have addressed your question. You have posts in other threads, don't you? |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Nobody: 3:50pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Janosky: He's expecting you to quote the verses then the arguements on choice of words regarding the versions will come up. If he can't figure out the answers in the cited scriptures, then he needs a free home Bible study to be conducted by a fully competent and completely equipped JW brother! 1 Like |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 5:03pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Acehart:Acehart, I just like you travel often to NWT, the Quran, Ethnic/aboriginal spirituality literatures, Book of Enoch (i.e. BoE) other apocryphal and pseudepigrapha books et cetera, but at the end of the journey, the bible is my home. I always touch base with my Bible home sweet home. Why dont you use your charmful nature to get one or all of the Jehovah Witnesses family (i.e. Maximus69, Janosky, DappaD, haddeylium, TATIME et cetera, to pull out their fingers from under sitting on their hands, to verbatim quote here, for all the world to see, what Matthew 18:11 says in and from the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible) and give whats the reason for it, if they are unable to successfully carry out this dead easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless, straightforward request |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 5:03pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Acehart:[img]https://s8/images/A-reductionist-model-of-perception.png[/img] It is a combination of refusing not to give the "... imagine you had supernatural abilities, that makes it possible for you to project yourself, outwards from your body into a different place and time. You are still the same with the projection, lets call it "son" and call you the "father"" illustration, a deep and well thought through opportunity, laced with a high degree of dishonesty of deliberating hiding from the reality that a projection is protrusion, a thing that protudes, bulges out, as in, meaning like, an extension beyond the normal sense, line or surface. Dtruthspeaker doesnt want to face to the fact that the projected "son" is just as alive and the same as the "father" from whom the "son" got projected from He doesnt want to be in projective counter-identification with the projector, so he is trying to negatively implement projective identification. You see, when projective identification is at work, the projector feels at one with the other person, with, an "I am you" feeling with the projected (i.e in this illustration I gave, the ''son'' projected out from the father'') The image of the ''son'' projected out from the father'' just like the cat in above picture is projected to Dtruthspeaker, as sensory data, for his mind to interpret the data and give an accurate representation in his mind, what has been projected by the Third Person Observer from above, with a Third Person Omniscient POV (i.e. point of view) and HOC (i.e. Higher-order consciousness) same way he is correctly interpreting seeing a cat, is what's expected of Dtruthspeaker to do, but because of Matthew 13:14's "Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says: “‘“You will indeed hear but never understand, and you will indeed see but never perceive.”" and Luke 8:10's "And He said, "To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is in parables, so that SEEING THEY MAY NOT SEE, AND HEARING THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND" his perception, discernment, reasoning, understanding et cetera are flawed, hence why he resorts to dishonesty and digging his heels in |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Eagban(m): 5:27pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Maximus69:That translation has only manage to deceive 8.7 million individuals. 1 Like |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Eagban(m): 5:33pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Janosky: The preface of the NWT is as misleading as the NWT translation... |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Janosky: 5:41pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Eagban: Because it DISPROVE the Textus receptus FRAUD of 1John5:7 , Phillipians2:6 and 1Timothy3:16 you cherish so much Do you have John20:17, John 17:3, John 11:27 and Rev3:5,12,21 in that Bible you hide under your bed? |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Janosky: 5:45pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: WAYO man, Matthew 18:11 is an interpolation of Luke 19:10. Muttleylaff Framing up FALSE claims upandan. Hypocrite, you close your eyes to extended version of Matthew 6:13 , come NL to DECEIVE yourself
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Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Nobody: 5:48pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Eagban: Hmmmmmmmm how i wish you could prove it by presenting a better performing group of people who are claiming followers of Christ! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Nobody: 5:51pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Janosky: Please Janosky, can you do US a favour by ignoring MuttleyLaff completely? Thanks in advance! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Eagban(m): 5:52pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Maximus69: I do not believe in any group, I only believe in Jesus... |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Eagban(m): 5:58pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Janosky: I won't allow you to drag me into more arguments. |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Janosky: 5:58pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Eagban: Acts15:14 ,2 Chro7:14, Acts3:13, Isaiah 43:10-12, 1 Corinthians 3:23... Bros, the real Jesus belongs to our God, Jehovah. John 20:17, His Father and our God. Bros, come and worship the one true God Jehovah whom Jesus Christ is worshipping |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by Nobody: 6:00pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Eagban: Well that makes your Jesus totally different from our own Jesus {Matthew 15:7} because our Jesus was enthroned in heaven and now he's controlling all the heavenly armies, his earthly Organization is solidified as one {John 17:21-23} hence the significance of the GROUP that needed to be IDENTIFIED by their activities! Matthew 7:15-20 So don't bother yourself, our Jesus is not your Jesus. Our own has standards that all his sheep do abide with so anywhere we go we can relate easily due to the same code of conduct! Matthew 7:21-23 2 Likes |
Re: The Most Mysterious Doctrine - The Trinity of The Godhead by MuttleyLaff: 6:03pm On Sep 06, 2020 |
Maximus69:You believe he is a robot like you are. Who is mind-controlled by your GB Bunch of reprobates having spirits of corruption. Tufiakwa! Good riddance to bad rubbish lot |
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