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Re: Hello there by benodic: 10:53am On Sep 05, 2020
@ aygbolly2

I would suggest if you are really sincere to ask God directly.
Forget about whatever any religion is saying.
God speaks to us directly because we are It's children. Ask and you will find the answers you seek
Re: Hello there by chimdi101: 11:14am On Sep 05, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


grin grin you loooost!

Now you change your post and raise fresh Issues in an attempt to cover your mistake, loss and defeat! grin

The guy is being straight forward and the simple fact is that babies are included in the thousands of people that die every year from diseases and natural disasters, why can't God protect the innocent babies from these?
Re: Hello there by chimdi101: 11:15am On Sep 05, 2020
Image123:


But He does not exist, no? You forgot?
It's either he kills babies or he doesn't exist
Re: Hello there by Image123(m): 11:49am On Sep 05, 2020
chimdi101:

It's either he kills babies or he doesn't exist

Pick one. You cannot reasonable pick the two. Can someone be nonexistent and still be killing babies?
Re: Hello there by chimdi101: 12:09pm On Sep 05, 2020
Image123:


Pick one. You cannot reasonable pick the two. Can someone be nonexistent and still be killing babies?
I hope you saw 'either' and 'or' in my statement.
Well, I would choose that he doesn't exist.
What are you choosing?
Re: Hello there by Dtruthspeaker: 2:32pm On Sep 05, 2020
chimdi101:

The guy is being straight forward and the simple fact is that babies are included in the thousands of people that die every year from diseases and natural disasters, why can't God protect the innocent babies from these?

This is an issue for you.

With that evil guy, the issue between us was whether God is Fair and Just, which he himself gave the same Judgment God executed.

That is to the effect "TAKE OUT THE BAD EGGS" as he Rightly Judged.

So, how then can he complain about unfair Judgment when he himself gave that same Judgment? Which is the effect of my answer to him.

Now to your issue, the Answer is found in the Law Yam must give birth to yam, A Snake must birth a. Snake, A Good Tree must bear good fruits and an evil tree, evil fruit.

Therefore, the children of the Wicked Must be wicked also and The rain that falls on the Wicked must fall on the children also.

However, there is another Law that God has provided to apply to babies and children, which is the Law of the Seven Years.

Which renders children and babies, innocent. However, do not forget that the Lord Sees the whole life of a soul and he can know what shall be of that soul whether babe or grown.

The Judgment still remains His to make!
Re: Hello there by orisa37: 3:27pm On Sep 05, 2020
Yes. His Will be done on Earth by all CREATIONS.

The Choice is of His CREATIONS to do His Will and be blessed or disobey and be burnt.
Re: Hello there by Image123(m): 7:26pm On Sep 05, 2020
chimdi101:

I hope you saw 'either' and 'or' in my statement.
Well, I would choose that he doesn't exist.
What are you choosing?

Of course i know that He exists. So you cannot say He is nonexistent and the same time killing babies. A nonexistent person cannot kill or what do you think?
Re: Hello there by FatherOfJesus: 10:17pm On Sep 06, 2020
Cos they never provide proof and evidence. They want people to believe them by faith
DappaD:


When you created this moniker ‘FatherofJesus’, wasn't the above the same thing you had in mind?
Mocking and disregarding the beliefs of others? wink
Re: Hello there by oaroloye(m): 4:53pm On Mar 04, 2021
aygbolly2:

Good evening nlanders.. I'm asking this question out of curiosity after thinking about certain things that occur in life. Now, when a child is born, he/she automatically practises the religion of the parent and the probability that the child will practise the inherited religion till death is almost total except in rare cases where the child converts into another religion.

A FUNDAMENTAL TEACHING OF SCIENTOLOGY IS THE THREE FACTORS OF LEARNING.

(1) THE STUDENTS MUST CONFRONT THE PHYSICAL EXAMPLE OF WHATEVER THEY ARE TAUGHT.

Otherwise, it is impossible for the Teachers to know that the Students have understood what they are taught, or for the Students to understand what the Teachers are talking about.

(2) THE LEARNING CURVE MUST NOT BE TOO STEEP, BROKEN, NOR LOOPED.

The learning must begin From The Beginning, most Elementary Principles, through the Intermediate Principles, to the Advanced, Concluding Principles.

One conclude learning any Principle or Concept.

(3) EACH AND EVERY TECHNICAL TERM JARGON MUST BE THOROUGHLY DEFINED.

Using standard, agreed-upon dictionaries and technical manuals.

[See: BASIC STUDY MANUAL, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

ALL THEISTS AND ATHEISTS MAKE THE SAME ARROGANT MISTAKE: THEY ASSUME THEY KNOW EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO HANDLE RELIGION.

aygbolly2:

I am a Muslim by the way, because my parents are also Muslims and what my religion says is that any religion besides Islam is not acceptable by Allah and I have also learnt that Christianity also preaches that whosoever doesn't accept Jesus as his Lord and savior will not be granted the kingdom of heaven..

THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW GOD IS THROUGH THE ABRAHAMIC COVENANT.

. GENESIS 17:1-14.

AND when Abram was
ninety years old and nine,
The LORD appeared to Abram,
and Said unto him,

"I am The Almighty God;
walk before Me,
and be thou perfect.
2. "And I will make
My Covenant
between Me and thee,
and will multiply thee exceedingly."

3. And Abram fell on his face:
and God Talked with him,
Saying,

4. "As for Me,
behold, My Covenant
is with thee,
and thou shalt be
a Father of many Nations.
5. "Neither shall thy name
any more be called "Abram,"
but thy name shall be "Abraham;"
for a father of many nations
have I made thee.
6. "And I will make thee
Exceeding Fruitful,
and I will make
nations of thee,
and kings shall
come out of thee.
7. "And I will establish
My Covenant
between Me and thee
and thy seed after thee
in their Generations
for an Everlasting Covenant,
to be a God unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee.
8. "And I will give unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee,
the land wherein
thou art a stranger,
all the land of Canaan,
for an Everlasting Possession;
and I will be their God."

9. And God Said
unto Abraham,

"Thou shalt keep
My Covenant therefore,
thou, and thy seed after thee
in their Generations.
10. "This is My Covenant,
Which ye shall keep,
between Me and you
and thy seed after thee;

'EVERY MAN CHILD AMONG YOU
SHALL BE CIRCUMCISED.'


11. "And ye shall circumcise
the flesh of your foreskin;
and it shall be
a Token of The Covenant
betwixt me and you.
12. "And he that is
eight days old
shall be circumcised
among you,
every man child
in your Generations,
he that is born in the house,
or bought with money
of any stranger,
which is not of thy seed.
13. "He that is born
in thy house,
and he that is bought
with thy money,
must needs be circumcised:
and My Covenant
shall be in your flesh
for an Everlasting Covenant.
14. "And the uncircumcised
man child
whose flesh of his foreskin
is not circumcised,
that soul shall be cut off
from his people;
he hath broken My Covenant."

.   DEUTERONOMY 27:26.

26. Cursed be he
that confirmeth not all
The Words of This Law
to do them.

And all the people shall say,

"AMEN."

YAHWEH GOD IS NOT THE GOD OF EVERYONE ON EARTH, BUT ONLY OF THOSE WHO RESPECT HIS COVENANT.

ISLAM is a FALSE RELIGION, concocted by a very foolish man, who failed to respect THE PRIMARY REQUIREMENT OF THE RELIGION OF GOD.

. DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9.

NOW these are
The Commandments,
The Statutes,
and The Judgments,
Which The LORD your God
Commanded to teach you,
that ye might do them
in the land whither ye go
to possess It:
2. That thou mightest
fear The LORD thy God,
to keep all His Statutes
and His Commandments,
Which I Command thee,
thou, and thy son,
and thy son's son,
all the days of thy life;
and that thy days
may be prolonged.
3. Hear therefore,
O Israel,
and observe to do (It);
that it may be well with thee,
and that ye may
increase mightily,
as the LORD God of thy fathers
hath promised thee,
in the land that floweth
with milk and honey.
4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God
is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee
this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest
in thine house,
and when thou walkest
by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

YOU MUST READ AND WRITE THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES BY YOURSELF.

If your parents didn't teach you THE LAW, then THEY BROUGHT A CURSE UPON YOU.

.     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that Hate Me.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

GOD HOLDS EVERY HUMAN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE INIQUITIES COMMITTED BY THEIR PARENTS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS.

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

THERE IS NO ATONEMENT FOR INIQUITIES- THAT IS, DELIBERATELY-COMMITTED SINS.

aygbolly2:

However, in most cases, a child inherits religion, and clearly whether he/she enters heaven or hell according to either religion is not his/her decision but that of the parent and ancestors.

IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW WHAT THE ONE TRUE RELIGION IS: GOD DOES NOT CARE IF YOU ALLOWED YOURSELF TO BE DECEIVED BY FALSE PROPHETS AND LYING SPIRITS.

I am not versed in ARABIAN HISTORY, but NO WAY DO I BELIEVE THAT ARAB KINGS AND PRINCES CARED, IF SOME STRANGER BARGED INTO THEIR TERRITORY, AND STARTED MAKING UP LAWS OF HIS OWN, CONTRADICTING THEIR OWN LAWS, PLEADING THAT HE WAS AN ILLITERATE, AND HADN'T READ THEIR BOOKS OF LAWS!

What the so-called Prophet Muhammad did was THE BASEST WICKEDNESS, which has cost THOUSANDS OF MILLIONS OF SOULS.

God DOES NOT CARE that Muhammad was MISLED BY A FAKE ANGEL: it was his DUTY to know The Law.

It was his DUTY to know THE TEMPTATION OF "YISA," and know that he HAD TO KNOW THE LAW BEFORE trying to seek God.

aygbolly2:

I personally assume that this doesn't signify justice and fairness by God to the child if he/she eventually falls on the wrong side i.e end up practising the wrong religion but what we have always been told is that God is a fair and just God.

.   LUKE 14:25-35.

25. And there went
great multitudes with him:
and he turned,
and Said unto them,

26. "If any man come to me,
and hate not
his father, and mother,
and wife, and children,
and brethren,
and sisters,
yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my Disciple.
27. "And whosoever
doth not bear his cross,
and come after me,
cannot be my Disciple.
28. "For which of you,
intending to build a tower,
sitteth not down first,
and counteth the cost,
whether he have
sufficient to finish it?
29. "Lest haply,
after he hath
laid the foundation,
and is not able to finish it,
all that behold it
begin to mock him,
30. "Saying,

'THIS MAN
BEGAN TO BUILD,
AND WAS NOT
ABLE TO FINISH.'


31. "Or what king,
going to make war
against another king,
sitteth not down first,
and consulteth
whether he be able
with ten thousand
to meet him that
cometh against him
with twenty thousand?
32. "Or else,
while the other is yet
a great way off,
he sendeth an ambassage,
and desireth conditions
of peace.
33. "So likewise,
whosoever he be of you
that forsaketh not
all that he hath,
he cannot be my Disciple.
34. "Salt is good:
but if the salt have
lost his savour,
wherewith shall it
be seasoned?
35."It is neither fit
for the land,
nor yet for the dunghill;
but men cast it out.
He that hath ears to hear,
let him hear."

GOD DOES NOT ACCEPT THE EXCUSE OF YOUR PARENTS, RELATIVES, COUNTRYMEN, OR KINGDOM PRACTICED A FAKE RELIGION: YOU ARE ALL GARBAGE, AS FAR AS HE IS CONCERNED.

It is the height of foolishness to expect God to change His Laws to accommodate your Wickedness.

FatherOfJesus:

Cos they never provide proof and evidence. They want people to believe them by faith

. JOHN 14:12.

12. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;
AND GREATER WORKS
THAN THESE SHALL HE DO;
BECAUSE I GO UNTO MY FATHER.' "


. REVELATION 22:11-12.

11. "He that is UNJUST,
let him be Unjust still:
and he which is FILTHY,
let him be Filthy still:
and he that is RIGHTEOUS,
let him be Righteous still:
and he that is HOLY,
let him be Holy still.
12. "And, behold,
I come quickly;
and my Reward is with me,
to give every man According
as his Work shall be."

HOLINESS IS THE SPIRITUAL ENERGY STATE OF COMPATIBILITY WITH GOD, SUCH THAT WE CAN BELIEVE AND DO EVERYTHING THAT HE TELLS US- INCLUDING THE ATTAINMENT OF THE TEN FUNDAMENTAL POWERS.

Atheists are without moral compass, and will tell any lie they want, to bolster their invalid arguments- including that there is no evidence that The Bible Religion is the correct one.

chatinent:

Be open minded and we can chat.

aygbolly2:

what makes you think I'm not.. of course I am

aygbolly2:

what makes you think I'm not.. of course I am

Daejoyoung:

What jesus said about being the way, the truth, and the life, or entering the kingdom of Heaven was never about Religion or a particular belief system but rather about obeying his teachings.

Why do you call me lord, lord and not do what I say.

Doing the will of God was to believe that the teachings of jesus are teachings of God who sent him, and then to take those teachings seriously.

KEEPING YAHWEH GOD'S COMMANDMENTS BY MOSES OR HIS COMMANDMENTS BY LORD YESHUA CAUSES THE ATTAINMENT OF HOLINESS: COMPLETE HOLINESS HAS TEN MANIFESTATIONS.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


The Hypocrisy of the alleged Christians in general, and on NAIRALAND and FACEBOOK in particular, is that NOT ONE HAS WELCOMED, ACCEPTED, nor ACTED UPON this clarification of THE TRUE WAY OF GOD.

The simple explanation of this is that ALL ORGANIZED CHRISTIAN CHURCHES are COMPROMISED, and only preach what THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH allows them to preach.

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chatinent:


Please read James 1 Vs 13.

. JAMES 1:12-14.

12. Blessed is the man
that endureth Temptation:
for when he is tried,
he shall receive The Crown of Life,
which the Lord hath promised
to them that love him.
13. Let no man say
when he is tempted,

"I AM TEMPTED OF GOD:"

for God cannot be tempted with Evil, neither tempteth He any man:
14. But every man is tempted,
when he is drawn away
of his own lust,
and enticed.

HYPOCRITES OFTEN CITE VERSES, PRETENDING THAT THEY PROVE THEIR ARGUMENTS, WHEREAS THEY DON'T.

Instead of seeing only what the Deceivers want you to see, TRACE THE BEGINNING OF YACUB Ben YOSEF, the Biological Brother of Lord Yeshua.

(1) He opposed The Gospel From The Beginning.

(2) He led the resolution to ban the GENTILE CHRISTIANS from CIRCUMCISION and THE LAW OF MOSES.

ALL OF THE EARLY CHURCH AGREED TO SUPPRESS LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS- ONLY THOSE WHO REFUSED TO AGREE- LIKE STEPHEN- WERE BETRAYED TO THE SANHEDRIN TO BE KILLED BY THE DISCIPLES.

XXXXTENTACION:
Religion na scam undecided

life is not fair some are born with silver spoon, while others are born with wooden spoon.

ONLY FOOLS THINK THAT THE WAY SINNERS LIVE IS HOW GOD INTENDED MEN TO LIVE, GIVEN THE EXAMPLES OF MOSES AND THE PROPHETS.

SpecTTraP:


U dey talk of wooden spoon. Some no even born with any spoon at all. At times I fault God in many ways for being unfair. How can he give some people so much in life and give others little or absolutely nothing. As men, you see some very tall and handsome while others hardly reach 5ft. Down their trousers, you see some guys gathering almost 1 foot dick long or even more while others carry miniature. Abeg, God is unfair.

KNOWING THAT GOD GAVE RICHES TO THE RICH, AND POVERTY TO THE POOR? WHY DON'T THOSE WHO WANT RICHES APPLY GOD'S METHODS FOR ACCUMULATING RICHES?

For instance, THE FIRST TALENT OF POWER: TOTAL RECALL alone is a FOUNDATION OF WEALTH.

Nobody:

If I reach heaven and Baba say. My son the part u chose wasnt the right one. I go employ lawyer to defend me say no be me choose and that it was a configured setting not only to me but to millions.

So outta 1million people, if only 100 changed along the line, it means the 100 people are the problems coz if it was normal, number of people leaving from one place to another will be like 500k, then we can judge.

Bottom line

Focus on DOING GOOD. IF HEAVEN IS REAL, GOOD DEEDS WILL TAKE YOU THERE.

RELIGION IS JUST THERE TO ENSURE U HAVE MORALS.

Coz without religion (on home training) and fear of God in Africa. E for worse pass like this.

Extremist are making religion look like Hell itself.

THE PURPOSE OF TRUE RELIGION IS TO MECHANICALLY ATTAIN THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER, AND THEREBY DIRECT CONTACT WITH GOD.

rezky:

The earier we realise we are serving one God the better.
As far as i'm concern.., i believe in every faith have come to know., It all boils down to individual choices and perception.
It's not a must you practise your parent religion., and just like you said its only few exceptions where a child choose another relgious belief aside the one he/she was nurtured with.
To your question., I'll say God is just., we humans just take religion too extreme.

ONLY FOOLS CAN THINK THE SAME GOD TELLS DIFFERENT PEOPLE DIFFERENT THINGS, AT THE SAME TIME, TO BE FIGHTING ONE ANOTHER.

kingxsamz:

A god that orders genocide is not the kind of god anyone should call fair and just.

ONLY FOOLS DO NOT TRACE THE BEGINNING OF SITUATIONS THAT PROMPTED GOD TO COMMAND GENOCIDE.FOOLS BELIEVE THE LYING ATHEISTS WHO SAY THAT GOD UNJUSTLY COMMANDED GENOCIDE, WITHOUT THOROUGHLY EXAMINING THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

Show the proof that God ever unjustly Commanded Genocide.

The first time He Commanded Genocide was against a Race called THE AMALEKITES:

. DEUTERONOMY 25:11-19.

11. When men strive together
one with another,
and the wife of the one
draweth near
for to deliver her husband
out of the hand of him
that smiteth him,
and putteth forth her hand,
and taketh him by the secrets:
12. Then thou shalt
cut off her hand,
thine eye shall not pity her.

13. Thou shalt not
have in thy bag
divers weights,
a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not
have in thine house
divers measures,
a great and a small.
15. But thou shalt have
a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure
shalt thou have:
that thy days may be lengthened
in the Land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
and all that do unrighteously,
are an abomination
unto the LORD thy God.

17. Remember what Amalek
did unto thee by the way,
when ye were come forth
out of Egypt;
18. How he met thee
by the way,
and smote
the hindmost of thee,
even all that were feeble
behind thee,
when thou wast
faint and weary;
and he feared not God.
19. Therefore it shall be,
when the LORD thy God
hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies
round about,
in the Land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee
for an inheritance
to possess it,
that thou shalt blot out
the Remembrance of Amalek
from under Heaven;
thou shalt not forget it.

THESE PEOPLE DECIDED THAT THE PROPER THING TO DO TO ESCAPED-SLAVE ASYLUM-SEEKERS WAS TO ATTACK AND KILL THEM.

Therefore God Commanded their extermination.

ONLY FOOLS CAN SUGGEST THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LEFT ALONE!

Like the fools who say that: "WE ALL WORSHIP THE SAME GOD!"

Based on WHAT evidence?

XXXXTENTACION:
this life no just balance at all undecided its left for every man to find his own way cool

ONLY FOOLS DENY THAT GOD PRESENTED TWO PERFECTLY BALANCED SYSTEMS: THE OLD AND THE NEW TESTAMENTS.
Re: Hello there by oaroloye(m): 9:07pm On Mar 04, 2021
FatherOfJesus:

He's a Muslim and you are quoting the bible. Why do you think he should believe whatever your bible says?

Can you be open-minded yourself?

ONLY A FOOL DOES NOT KNOW THAT MUSLIMS CLAIM TO BELIEVE IN THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, YSSAK, AND YACUB.

Image123:

Do you have example of the fair and just one, or you are wasting your time hence your life once again?

THEY NEVER DO!

Nobody:

The religionsists speaks based on the teachings they get from the book given to them, so to be open minded for real we have to subject all the books to scrutiny, found out why must we trust the book in the first place, before we can start trusting (believing) the book! cheesy

THE BIBLE FIRST TAUGHT THAT ORDINARY MEN ARE ONLY 10% CONSCIOUS- WESTERN SCIENCE ONLY FINALLY RECOGNIZED THIS IN THE LATE 19th CENTURY- BUT QUICKLY COVERED THAT IMPORTANT FACT UP.

[Search: BORIS SIDIS+WILLIAM JAMES+WILLIAM SIDIS.
See: LIMITLESS (2011) starring Bradley Cooper and Robert deNiro.
LUCY (2014), starring Scarlett Johansen and Morgan Freeman.
LIMITLESS (2015), starring Jake McDorman, Jennifer Carpenter, and Colin Salmon.]

When a University Dropout Researcher, LAFAYETTE RONALD HUBBARD, released a method to restore 100% Consciousness to ANYBODY, at ANY age, he was immediately blackballed by the academic community, despite his thousands of case histories proving the efficacy of his system, and his method immediately covered up.

[See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard (1950).
SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL: The Prediction of Human Behavior, by L. Ron Hubbard (1951).]
IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE, by Martin Gardner (1952).
FADS AND FALLACIES IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE, by Martin Gardner (1957).

His method, DIANETICS, was condemned without examination.

kingxsamz:


cheesy Is a genocide thirsty god fair and just?
You sef reason am. cheesy

IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, STATE THE SPECIFIC CASES OF GENOCIDE!

Only stupid people accuse God of Commanding "Genocide! Genocide!" without being able to specify whom He is supposed to have Commanded "Genocide" against- because they know very well that they are lying.

Image123:


You forgot to give me the example of the fair and just one. You're very forgetful.

WHY DO YOU NOT CHALLENGE THE "GENOCIDE" BLASPHEMY?

kingxsamz:


You're the one who calls him, good, fair and just.
So answer yourself. cheesy

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHY ARE YOU HERE?

Image123:


Good, so you agree He is good, fair and just. Wonderful. But you don't believe that He exists. But He is not good, fair or just. He commits genocide. But He doesn't exist. How do you cope, i feel sleepy already thinking so foolishly.

WHY ARE YOU ALL WASTING YOUR TIME LIKE THIS?

kingxsamz:


What brand of weed did you smoke?
Seems like you're having comprehension problems this night. grin

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE ONLY THE ONE SOUL: BLASPHEMING AGAINST GOD, YOU CAN COMPROMISE YOUR ETERNAL DESTINY FOR EVER!

. LEVITICUS 24:10-16.

10. And the son
of an Israelitish woman,
whose father was
an Egyptian,
went out among
the Children of Israel:
and this son of
the Israelitish woman
and a Man of Israel
strove together in the camp;
11. And the Israelitish
woman's son blasphemed
The Name of The LORD,
and cursed.
And they brought him
unto Moses:
[and his mother's name
was Shelomith,
the daughter of Dibri,
of the tribe of Dan:]
12. And they put him in ward,
that the Mind of The LORD
might be shewed them.
13. And The LORD Spake
unto Moses,
Saying,

14. "Bring forth him
that hath cursed
without the camp;
and let all that heard him
lay their hands upon his head,
and let all the Congregation
stone him.
15. "And thou shalt speak
unto the Children of Israel,
saying,

'WHOSOEVER CURSETH
HIS GOD
SHALL BEAR HIS SIN.'


16. "And he that blasphemeth
The Name of The LORD,
he shall surely be
put to Death,
and all the Congregation
shall certainly stone him:
as well the Stranger
as he that is Born in the land,
when he blasphemeth
The Name of The LORD,
shall be put to death."

. MATTHEW 12:22-37.

22. Then was
brought unto him
one possessed
with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that
the blind and dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people
were amazed,
and said,

"Is not this
The Son of David?"

24. But when
the Pharisees heard it,
they said,

"This fellow doth not
cast out devils,
but by Beelzebub
the Prince of the Devils."

25. And Jesus knew their thoughts,
and Said unto them,

"Every kingdom
divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan
cast out Satan,
he is divided
against himself;
how shall then
his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub
cast out Devils,
by whom do your children
cast them out?
therefore they shall be
your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by the Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into
a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his Goods,
except he first
bind the Strong Man?
And then he will
spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that
gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say
unto you,

'ALL MANNER
OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'


32. "And whosoever
speaketh a word
against The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known
by his fruit.
34. "O generation of Vipers,
how can ye,
being evil,
speak good things?
For out of the abundance
of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good man
out of the Good Treasure
of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36. "But I Say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE
ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' “


37. "For by thy words
thou shalt be justified,
and by thy words
thou shalt be condemned."

THE PEOPLE YOU SPEAK TO IMPRESS NOW WILL NOT BE THERE FOR YOU, IN THE DAY WHEN YOU HAVE TO FACE GOD'S JUDGMENT.

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The brand you take every day. Wow, it indeed makes one liable to die young.

THERE IS NO COMMANDMENT OF GOD AGAINST USING ANY HERB THAT HAS SEEDS: THERE ARE SPECIFIC COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AGAINST INVENTING SINS AND GODS WHICH DO NOT EXIST!

. DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

32. What thing soever
I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.
IF there arise among you a Prophet,
or a Dreamer of Dreams,
and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or
the Wonder come to pass,
whereof he spake unto thee,
saying,

"LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS,
WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN,
AND LET US SERVE THEM;"


3. Thou shalt not hearken unto
The Words of that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams:
for The LORD your God proveth you,
to know whether ye love
The LORD your God
with all your heart
and with all your soul.
4. Ye shall walk after
The LORD your God,
and fear Him,
and keep His Commandments,
and obey His Voice,
and ye shall serve Him,
and cleave unto Him.
5. And that prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams,
shall be put to death;
because he hath spoken
to turn you away
from The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the Land of Egypt,
and Redeemed you
out of the House of Bondage,
to thrust thee out of The Way
which The LORD thy God
Commanded thee to walk in.

THE ULTIMATE FOOLISHNESS IS: TO BE IGNORANT OF GOD'S STANDARD OF JUDGMENT- SO YOU JUDGE HIM BY YOUR OWN!

THE ULTIMATE STUPIDITY IS TO BE IGNORANT OF THE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD- SO YOU JUST INVENT ATTRIBUTES FOR HIM TO HAVE, THAT HE DOES NOT- AND BLASPHEME HIM FOR NOT USING THEM AS YOU IMAGINE THAT HE SHOULD!

Maximus69:

I've tried just two books before i became satisfied with the research i was making. The Bible is the one and only TRUE source of divine guidance from God!
There are many other books but if you wish to know why i choose the Bible, you and i can reason together on the BENEFITS i've found in studying the Bible.
There are three major steps to ascertain the authenticity of any religious book or concept:-

Find out the THEORY

Know the PRACTICAL APPLICATION

Analyse the BENEFITS

If it's fair to one and all then there is no doubt that such a book with it's concept is from the highest intelligent being of all times (GOD) smiley

ONLY A FOOL CLAIMS THAT THE BIBLE CONTAINS ALL KNOWLEDGE: THE BIBLE IS "MERELY" THE FOUNDATION OF ALL KNOWLEDGE.

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD,
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "


. JOB 39:13-18.

13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings
unto the peacocks?
or wings and feathers
unto the ostrich?
14. "Which leaveth
her eggs in the earth,
and warmeth them in dust,
15. "And forgetteth
that the foot may crush them,
or that the wild beast
may break them.
16. "She is hardened
against her young ones,
as though they were not her's:
her labour is in vain without fear;
17. "Because God hath
deprived her of Wisdom,
neither hath He
imparted to her Understanding.
18." What time she
lifteth up herself on high,
she scorneth
the horse and his rider."

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

USING THE BIBLE, A SERVANT OF GOD CAN UNDERSTAND ALL OTHER KNOWLEDGE- THIS IS NECESSARY TO THE WORK OF A PROPHET.

An Unbeliever can spend FORTY YEARS accumulating Philosophical, Artistic, Scientific, or other Knowledge. A PROPHET can acquire all of it in TWENTY MINUTES, and Understand It within the hour- because that is how fast they should have learned to review THEIR OWN LIFE. Reviewing someone else's can be done just as quickly.

Oh, wait- you thought The Holy Ghost was for FORTUNE-TELLING- as the illiterate Prophetic "Pastors" do, right?

These sorry fools acquire the FIRSTFRUITS of this ability, BUT NEVER DEVELOP FURTHER- because THEY FORGOT the PRIMARY RULE OF JUDGMENT:

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what
judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what
measure ye mete,
it shall be
measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou
the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou
say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT
THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'


and, behold,
a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again
and rend you."

NAMELY: ALWAYS JUDGE YOURSELF, FIRST!

TOTAL RECALL is only attained WHEN WE HAVE REMEMBERED ALL OF OUR SINS.

It is our FORGETTING OUR OWN SINS that BLOCKS The Ten Talents from working.

It is not necessary to REPENT of our Sins to attain THE TEN TALENTS.

FatherOfJesus:

Dont you wish to know why others chose theirs as well?

HOW OTHERS CAME BY THEIR FALSE BELIEFS IS UNIMPORTANT- UNLESS IT GETS IN THE WAY OF THEIR LEARNING THE TRUTH.

aygbolly2:

I assume that you see and understand that accuracy and fairness in His Judgement, can you please explain so as to have my mind blown now.

As you are a Christian now(I suppose), and I'm a Muslim due to the fact that we both likely inherited our individual religions, to you, I'm not going to join you in the kingdom of heaven because I'm not of the same faith with you, now if your own faith is possibly the right one, Is God's judgement on me going to be fair and just?

OF COURSE IT IS FAIR AND JUST! THE SECOND TALENT OF POWER ENABLES US TO PERCEIVE THAT ALL LIFE COMES FROM HEAVEN, AND THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO OPTIMIZE THAT LIFE, AND ATTAIN EVERLASTING LIFE.

If we fail to develop ourselves, we do not deserve to be allowed to continue.

Nobody:


God himself explained why there are so many contradictions in Religion!

YES, HE DID! DID YOU LISTEN?

Nobody:

Satan (mighty spirit being) and some other spirits rebelled against God, their major rift is to fetch for worshipers too, so thousands of these powerful unseen intelligent beings are out there creating religious groups for themselves.

THIS EXPLANATION IS INCOMPLETE WITHOUT TELLING THEIR MOTIVE.

Every Creature is allocated an unending supply of life energy, immediately they are born. At the same time, they are imprinted with THE COMMANDS OF THE CREATOR to their kind.

All Creatures are at their best, when they use that life energy to fulfil those Commands. But if they fail to use this life energy as The Creator intended, their Soul Bodies lose their elasticity and vibrance, and become rigid and brittle, and eventually shatter, spilling their contents, which is Death.

The Devils avoid that fate by rejecting the free, Heavenly Life Energy allocation, and instead STEAL or SCAVENGE unused Life Energy from other creatures.

Such as MAN.

This is their motive for corrupting Creation in general, and Mankind in particular.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY, by Carlos Castaneda.]

Anyone who attains THE SECOND TALENT OF POWER: EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION- can verify this for themselves.

It is our duty to verify these things ourselves.

Nobody:

That's why God arranged for the preaching and teaching program so as to free honest hearted and sincere persons from under the bondage Satan is keeping them.

ESSENTIALLY CORRECT- HOWEVER, THE GOSPEL IS NOT BASED ON TALK, BUT ON EXPERIENCE.

Nobody:

I was a Muslim too, in fact a military intelligence officer but i've been inquisitive right from my youth asking series of thought provoking questions on this topic of discussion.

YOU HAVE NOT ATTAINED THE-KNOWLEDGE-OF-THE_TRUTH BY NOW, YOU HAVE BEEN WASTING YOUR TIME!

Nobody:

So if truthfully you want to know the truth, it's not God's plan to deprive you unless you're depriving yourself! smiley

WHO TOLD YOU THAT? SEE WHAT I MEAN ABOUT PEOPLE MAKING UP DIVINE ATTRIBUTES THAT DO NOT EXIST?

.     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that Hate Me.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

GOD HOLDS EVERY HUMAN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE INIQUITIES COMMITTED BY THEIR PARENTS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS.

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

GOD CAN DEPRIVE US OF ANYTHING- INCLUDING OUR WHOLE LIVES- LET ALONE THE ABILITY TO FIND HIM, BECAUSE OF THINGS OUR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, OR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS DID/FAILED TO DO!

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD Sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

CERTAIN SINS OUR ANCESTORS COMMITTED CAN OBSTRUCT AND UNDERMINE OUR ENTRY INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD, EVEN OUR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, AND GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN.

MURDER of Christians is an example.

BLASPHEMY is an example.
Re: Hello there by benodic: 2:28am On Mar 05, 2021
I have been in Nairaland Religion section for over 10 years now and it always amuses me that people don't come here to learn.
They only come here to argue and put it to others that their way is not just the only way but the only right way.
True spirituaity and answers to many spiritual questions are not found in any book. Trust me I have read hundreds of them.
They are found within you.
The question then is how to find the temple of God that lies within you.
The key is Spiritual Exercises of ECK.
The most basic being the singing of HU, the Holy name of God.
I have handled most of these questions in my threads in the Religion section which include

https://www.nairaland.com/533844/contemplation-seeds-eckankar

https://www.nairaland.com/2889426/journey-soul

When you are done with the arguments and you are ready to experience true spirituality, you are invited to explore the eckankar website,
www.eckankar.org
which provides a succinct pathway to how you can realize yourself as Soul a divine spark of God which will enable you to know that you exist because of God's Love For you.

MTBB
Re: Hello there by oaroloye(m): 6:22am On Mar 05, 2021
SHALOM!

benodic:

I have been in Nairaland Religion section for over 10 years now and it always amuses me that people don't come here to learn.

I FIND NO AMUSEMENT IN THE FACT THAT NO ONE SEEMS TO COME TO RELIGION TO LEARN, BUT MANY HAVE COME HERE TO LITERALLY SABOTAGE POSITIVE EFFORTS.

.    MATTHEW 18:1-14.

AT the same time came
the Disciples unto Jesus,
saying,

"Who is the greatest
in The Kingdom of Heaven?"

2. And Jesus called
a little child unto him,
and set him
in the midst of them,
3. And Said,

"Verily I Say unto you,

'EXCEPT YE
BE CONVERTED,
AND BECOME
AS LITTLE CHILDREN,
YE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'


4. "Whosoever therefore
shall humble himself
as this little child,
the same is greatest
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
5. "And whoso shall receive
one such little child
in my Name receiveth me.
6. "But whoso shall offend
one of these little ones
which believe in me,
it were better for him
that a millstone
were hanged about his neck,
and that he were drowned
in the Depth of the Sea.
7. "Woe unto the World
because of Offences!
For it must needs be
that Offences come;
but woe to that man
by whom the Offence cometh!
8. "Wherefore if thy hand
or thy foot offend thee,
cut them off,
and cast them from thee:
it is better for thee
to enter into life
halt or maimed,
rather than having
two hands or two feet
to be cast into Everlasting Fire.
9. "And if thine eye offend thee,
pluck it out,
and cast it from thee:
it is better for thee
to enter into life
with one eye,
rather than having two eyes
to be cast into Hell Fire.

10. "Take heed that ye
despise not one
of these little ones;
for I Say unto you,

'THAT IN HEAVEN
THEIR ANGELS DO ALWAYS
BEHOLD THE FACE
OF MY FATHER
WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'


11. "For The Son of Man
is come to Save
that which was Lost.

12. "How think ye?
If a man have
an hundred sheep,
and one of them
be gone astray,
doth he not leave
the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that
which is gone astray?
13. "And if so be
that he find it,
verily I Say unto you,

'HE REJOICETH
MORE OF THAT SHEEP
THAN OF
THE NINETY AND NINE
WHICH WENT
NOT ASTRAY.'


14. "Even so it is not
The Will of your Father
Which is in Heaven,
that one of these little ones
should perish."

THE HARDEST THING FOR AN UNBELIEVER IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR EXPERIENCE, KNOWLEDGE, AND INTELLIGENCE MEAN LITTLE OR NOTHING WHEN CONFRONTING THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

That they have to learn things they know nothing about.

benodic:

They only come here to argue and put it to others that their way is not just the only way but the only right way.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST STUPID- THAT IS NORMAL, AND DOES NOT MATTER: WHAT MATTERS IS THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LITERALLY PAID TO PRETEND TO BE STUPID.

. MATTHEW 13:24-30.

24. Another Parable
put he forth unto them,
Saying,

"The Kingdom of Heaven
is likened unto a man
which sowed good seed
in his field:
25. "But while men slept,
his enemy came and sowed tares
among the wheat,
and went his way.
26. "But when the blade
was sprung up,
and brought forth fruit,
then appeared the tares also.
27. "So the servants
of the householder
came and said unto him,

'SIR, DIDST NOT THOU
SOW GOOD SEED IN THY FIELD?
FROM WHENCE HATH IT TARES?'


28. "He said unto them,

'AN ENEMY HATH DONE THIS.'

The servants said unto him,

'WILT THOU THEN
THAT WE GO AND
GATHER THEM UP?'


29. "But he said,

'NAY; LEST WHILE YE
GATHER UP THE TARES,
YE ROOT UP ALSO
THE WHEAT WITH THEM.
30. 'LET BOTH GROW TOGETHER
UNTIL THE HARVEST:
AND IN THE TIME OF THE HARVEST,
I WILL SAY
TO THE REAPERS,


"GATHER YE TOGETHER
FIRST THE TARES,
AND GATHER THEM IN BUNDLES
TO BURN THEM:
BUT GATHER THE WHEAT
INTO MY BARN." ' "


benodic:

True spirituaity and answers to many spiritual questions are not found in any book. Trust me I have read hundreds of them.

THAT IS A VERY STUPID AND IGNORANT THING TO SAY!

PAUL TWITCHELL founded ECKANKAR® in 1965: you have just said that none of the books your organization has published contains any significant information.

ALL THE KNOWLEDGE NEEDED TO FIND GOD HAS BEEN PUBLISHED IN THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES SINCE 3,300-1,900 YEARS AGO.

ECKANKAR® has claimed to be the product of multiple ASCENDED MASTERS, including Lord Yeshua.

On the one hand, ECKANKAR® contains no unique Spiritual Knowledge at all. On the other hand, It is a fraudulent rip-off of a fraudulent Religion.

. LEVITICUS 11:1-12.

AND The LORD Spoke unto Moses
and to Aaron,
Saying unto them,

2. “Speak unto
the Children of Israel,
saying,

'THESE ARE THE BEASTS
WHICH YE SHALL EAT
AMONG ALL THE BEASTS
THAT ARE ON THE EARTH.'


3. "Whatsoever parteth the hoof
and is cloven-footed
and cheweth the cud
among the Beasts,
that shall ye eat.

4. "Nevertheless these
shall ye not eat,
of those that chew the cud
or of those that
divide the hoof:
the camel,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
5. "And the coney,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
6. "And the hare,
because he cheweth the cud
but divideth not the hoof,
he is unclean unto you;
7. "And the swine,
though he divide the hoof
and is cloven-footed,
yet he cheweth not the cud,
he is unclean to you.
8. "Of their flesh shall ye not eat,
and their carcass shall ye not touch;
they are unclean to you."

9. "These shall ye eat
of all that are in the waters:
whatsoever hath fins and scales
in the waters,
in the seas,
and in the rivers,
them shall ye eat.
10. "And all that have not
fins and scales
in the seas,
and in the rivers,
of all that move in the waters,
and of any living thing
which is in the waters,
they shall be
an abomination unto you:
11. "They shall be
even an abomination unto you;
ye shall not eat of their flesh,
but ye shall have
their carcases in abomination.

12. "Whatsoever hath
no fins nor scales
in the waters,
that shall be
an abomination unto you."

. MATTHEW 13:47-53.

47. "Again,
The Kingdom of Heaven
is like unto a net,
that was cast into the Sea,
and gathered of every kind:
48. "Which, when it was full,
they drew to shore,
and sat down,
and gathered the Good into Vessels,
but cast the Bad away.
49. "So shall it be
at the End of the World:
The Angels shall come forth,
and sever the Wicked
from among the Just,
50. "And shall cast them into
The Furnace of Fire:
there shall be wailing
and gnashing of teeth."

51. Jesus Saith unto them,

"Have ye understood
all these things?"

They say unto him,

"Yea, Lord."

52. Then Said he unto them,

"Therefore every scribe
which is instructed unto
The Kingdom of Heaven
is like unto a Man
that is an Householder,
which bringeth forth
out of his Treasure
Things New and Old."

53. And it came to pass,
that when Jesus had finished these Parables,
he departed thence.

. MATTHEW 18:15-35.

15. "Moreover if thy Brother
shall trespass against thee,
go and tell him his fault
between thee and him alone:
if he shall hear thee,
thou hast gained thy Brother.
16. "But if he will not hear thee,
then take with thee
one or two more,

'THAT IN THE MOUTH
OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES
EVERY WORD
MAY BE ESTABLISHED.'


17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them,
tell it unto the Church:
but if he neglect
to hear the Church,
let him be unto thee
as an Heathen man and a Publican.
18. "Verily I Say unto you,

'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'


19. "Again I Say unto you,

'THAT IF TWO OF YOU
SHALL AGREE ON EARTH
AS TOUCHING ANY THING
THAT THEY SHALL ASK,
IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM
OF MY FATHER
WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'
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20. "For where two or three
are gathered together
in my Name,
there am I
in the midst of them.

21 Then came Peter to him,
and said,

"Lord, how oft
shall my Brother Sin
against me,
nd I forgive him?
Till seven times?""

22. Jesus Saith unto him,

"I Say not unto thee,

[b] 'UNTIL SEVEN TIMES:'


but,

'UNTIL SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN.'

23. "Therefore is the Kingdom of Heaven
likened unto a certain king,
which would take account of his servants.
24. "And when he had
begun to reckon,
one was brought unto him,
which owed him
ten thousand talents.
25. "But forasmuch as
he had not to pay,
his lord commanded him
to be sold,
and his wife,
and children,
and all that he had,
and payment to be made.
26. "The servant therefore
fell down
and worshipped him,
saying,

'LORD,
HAVE PATIENCE
WITH ME,
AND I WL
PAY THEE ALL.'


27. "Then the lord
of that servant
was moved with compassion,
and loosed him,
and forgave him the debt.
28. "But the same servant
went out,
and found one of his fellowservants,
which owed him
an hundred pence:
and he laid hands on him,
and took him by the throat,
saying,

'PAY ME THAT THOU OWEST.'

29. "And his fellowservant
fell down at his feet,
and besought him,
saying,

'HAVE PATIENCE
WITH ME,
AND I WILL
PAY THEE ALL.'


30. "And he would not:
but went and cast him
into Prison,
till he should pay the Debt.
31. "So when his fellowservants
saw what was done,
they were very sorry,
and came and told
unto their lord
all that was done.
32. "Then his lord,
after that he had called him,
said unto him,

'O THOU
WICKED SERVANT,
I FORGAVE THEE
ALL THAT DEBT,
BECAUSE THOU
DESIREDST ME:
33. 'SHOULDEST NOT THOU
ALSO HAVE HAD COMPASSION
ON TNY FELLOWSERVANT,
EVEN AS I HAD PITY ON THEE?'


34. "And his lord was wroth,
and delivered him
to the Tormentors,
till he should pay
all that was due unto him.
35. "So likewise shall
my Heavenly Father
do also unto you,
if ye from your hearts
forgive not every one
his brother
their trespasses."

PAUL TWITCHELL, FOUNDER OF ECKANKAR® WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF SCIENTOLOGY,® NONE OF WHOSE BOOKS I AM CONFIDENT, YOU HAVE EVER READ.

He was reputedly the 6th member of DIANETICS® to achieve the state of CLEAR.

In founding ECKANKAR,® he used a tactic that L. Ron Hubbard himself had boasted of using, during the 1945-1950 period when he needed to test his theories on Human Beings.

"...I wrapped a towel around my head," he told his followers, "and became a SWAMI!"

[See: THE STORY OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, by L. Ron Hubbard (1977).]

He pretended to be an Asian Master, using Ancient Oriental Spiritual Counseling Techniques. To further lend credibility to his Sessions, he used a Registered Nurse as his assistance.

Through these people, he perfected the technique to create CLEARS.

However, the fundamental principles of his method are found in TWO chapters of The Bible only:

. LEVITICUS 11:1-47.
. MATTHEW 18:1-35.

[See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard (1950).]

Whereas the GOSPEL connection was immediately obvious, it was not until I compared the Apocryphal Interpretation of the Old Testament passage by Barnabas with DIANETICS, that I realized where had derived the technique from in The Old Testament.

. THE EPISTLE OF BARNABAS 9:1-20.

BUT why did Moses say

"YE SHALL NOT EAT
OF THE SWINE,
NEITHER THE EAGLE
NOR THE HAWK;
NOR THE CROW;
NOR ANY FISH THAT HAS NOT
A SCALE UPON HIM?"


answer, that in the spiritual sense,
he comprehended three doctrines,
that were to be gathered from thence.

2. Besides which he says to them
in the Book of Deuteronomy,

"AND I WILL GIVE MY STATUTES
UNTO THIS PEOPLE."


Wherefore it is not
the Command of God
that they should
not eat these things;
but Moses in The Spirit
spake unto them.

3. Now the sow
he forbade them to eat;
meaning thus much;

Thou shalt not join thyself
to such persons as are
like unto swine;
who whilst they live in pleasure,
forget their God;
but when any want pinches them,
then they know The LORD;
as the sow when she is full
knows not her master;
but when she is hungry
she makes a noise;
and being again fed,
is silent.

4. "NEITHER,"

says he,

"SHALT THOU
EAT THE EAGLE,
NOR THE HAWK,
NOR THE KITE,
NOR THE CROW;"


that is thou shalt not
keep company with
such kind of men as know not
how by their labour and sweat
to get themselves food:
but injuriously ravish away
the things of others;
and watch how,
to lay snares for them;
when at the same time
they appear to live
in perfect innocence.

5. [So these birds alone
seek not
food for themselves, but]
sitting idle seek how
they may eat of the flesh
others have provided;
being destructive
through their wickedness.

6. "NEITHER,"

says HE,

"SHALT THOU EAT THE LAMPREY,
NOR THE POLYPUS,
NOR THE CUTTLE-FISH;"


That is, thou shalt not
be like such men,
by using to converse with them;
who are altogether wicked
and adjudged to death.
For so those Fishes
are alone accursed,
and wallow in the mire,
nor swim as other fishes,
but tumble in the dirt
at the bottom of the deep.

7. "BUT"

He adds,

"NEITHER SHALT THOU
EAT OF THE HARE."


To what end?—To signify
this to us;

"THOU SHALT NOT
BE AN ADULTERER;
NOR LIKEN THYSELF
TO SUCH PERSONS."


For the Hare every year
multiplies the places
of its conception;
and so many years as it lives,
so many it has.

[j]8. "NEITHER SHALT THOU
EAT OF THE HYENA;"[/i]


That is, again,
be not an Adulterer,
nor a corruptor of others;
neither be like to such.
And wherefore so?

Because that creature
every year changes its kind,
and is sometimes male
and sometimes female.

9. For which cause
also he justly hated the Weasel;
to the end that they should
not be like such persons
who with their mouths
commit wickedness
by reason of their uncleanness;
nor join themselves
with those impure women,
who with their mouths
commit wickedness.
Because that animal
conceives with its mouth.

10. Moses, therefore,
speaking as concerning meats,
delivered indeed
three great precepts to them
in the spiritual signification
of those commands.
But they according to
the desires of the flesh,
understood him as if
he had only meant it of meats.

11. And therefore David
took aright
The Knowledge of
His threefold Command,
saying in like manner.

12. "BLESSED IS THE MAN
THAT HATH NOT WALKED
IN THE COUNSEL
OF THE UNGODLY;"


as the Fishes before mentioned
in the bottom of the deep in Darkness.

13. "NOR STOOD
IN THE WAY OF SINNERS,"


as they who seem
to fear The LORD,
but yet Sin,
as the Sow.

14. "AND HATH NOT SAT
IN THE SEAT
OF THE SCORNERS;"


as those Birds who sit
and watch that they may devour.

15. Here you have The Law
concerning meat
perfectly set forth,
and according to
The True Knowledge of it.

16. "BUT,"

says Moses,

"YE SHALL EAT ALL
THAT DIVIDETH THE HOOF,
AND CHEWETH THE CUD."


Signifying thereby
such an one as
having taken his food,
knows Him that nourisheth him;
and resting upon Him,
rejoiceth in Him.

17. And in this he spake well,
having respect
to The Commandment.
What, therefore, is it that he says?
—That we should hold fast to them
that fear The Lord;
with those who Meditate
on The Command of the Word
which they have received
in their heart;
with those that declare
The Righteous Judgments
of The LORD,
and keep His Commandments;

18. In short, with those
who know that to Meditate
is a work of pleasure,
and therefore exercise themselves in
the Word of The LORD.

19. But why might they eat
those that clave the hoof?
—Because the Righteous liveth
in this present World;
but his expectation is fixed
upon the other.
See, Brethren,
how admirably Moses
commanded these things.

20. But how should we
thus know all this,
and understand it?
We, therefore,
understanding aright
The Commandments,
speak as The LORD
would have us.
Wherefore He has
circumcised our ears
and our hearts,
that we might
Know these Things.

PAUL TWITCHELL MERELY USED A WATERED-DOWN VERSION OF WHAT HE HAD LEARNED FROM L. RON HUBBARD, TO CREATE HIS ECKANKAR® RELIGION.

I do not pretend to have ever done an in-depth study of ECKANKAR;® I know enough to tell you authoritatively that It is merely an Inferior Rip-Off of an Inferior Bible Rip-Off.

Both ECKANKAR and SCIENTOLOGY are immensely powerful, degraded as they are. If you want the full package, you need to go back to The Bible.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


At some point, there had been the possibility that either SCIENTOLOGY or ECKANKAR, or BOTH could have become better than The Bible.

benodic:

They are found within you.

BUT THAT BECAME IMPOSSIBLE, WHEN BOTH FOUNDERS SUCCUMBED TO HUBRIS, AND HIJACKED THE GLORY THAT BELONGED GOD FOR THEMSELVES.

Pretending to be SOURCES.

benodic:

The question then is how to find the temple of God that lies within you.
The key is Spiritual Exercises of ECK.

TO OVERSIMPLIFY: GOD IS WITHIN US- BUT SO IS THE DEVIL.

. MARK 7:20-23.

20. And he Said,

"That which
cometh out of the man,
that defileth the man.
21. "For from within,
out of the heart of men,
proceed Evil Thoughts,
Adulteries, Fornications, Murders,
22. "Thefts, Covetousness, Wickedness,
Deceit, Lasciviousness, an Evil Eye,
Blasphemy, Pride, Foolishness:
23. "All these Evil Things
come from within,
and defile the man."

IF YOU PROCEED WITH SPIRITUAL EXERCISES WITHOUT FIRST REPENTING OF YOUR SINS, CORRUPTION BY SATAN IS INEVITABLE.

There is a TEMPLE OF GOD in everyone, BUT GOD IS USUALLY NOT IN IT.
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