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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by PureGoldh(m): 12:41pm On Sep 06, 2020
Ok
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by ArmedRobber: 12:42pm On Sep 06, 2020
Esseite:
You could sense the veins and deep patriotism in Abaribe... if words were alive, he may have cried giving that interview.

Coming from someone that life has blessed beyond measures, it's good still seeing such hunger to right wrongs..
abaribe is like a lantern that sees everywhere but it doesn't see itself.
His state is one of the worst governed state in Nigeria

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by adanny01(m): 12:44pm On Sep 06, 2020
Our job as the opposition is to oppose and say “no” which we will continue to do on the floor but the provisions of our rules and democratic ethos say on the floor of both chambers, voice vote and cast votes determine where you go and so, despite your opposition, the votes still say that they should toe the line of their party. We have no options left.

Your job is to say no even if yes means progress of the country.

This people will never learn.

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Ilola(f): 12:48pm On Sep 06, 2020
Who believes politicians
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by friday2011(m): 12:53pm On Sep 06, 2020
Esseite:
You could sense the veins and deep patriotism in Abaribe... if words were alive, he may have cried giving that interview.

Coming from someone that life has blessed beyond measures, it's good still seeing such hunger to right wrongs..

I swear, the man just nailed it...

Unfortunately our lazy youths on nairaland will not read this.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Anaerobi(m): 12:54pm On Sep 06, 2020
MelesZenawi:


soludo loves local league while his colleague are on international league fighting for WTO job
Peter Obi have played the local league and now graduated to National League.... so let's still give soludo time to also come up... it's a gradual process.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Ategberoson(m): 12:54pm On Sep 06, 2020
hell Rufai says has no effect, whether he support or not, it has no relevance in 2023 decision


Igbo should fight for PDP ticket and let Yoruba get APC ticket or we sit on a round table to discuss secession

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Anaerobi(m): 12:57pm On Sep 06, 2020
does that mean that all the political parties in Nigeria will stop others from participating in the primary election?
because they north may even give their votes to ADC who may have a northern man while southerns will be busy floating in APC and PDP.
so I don't still understand. lol

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by ikenna44: 1:03pm On Sep 06, 2020
We'd believe el-rufai over tinubu anyday anytime!
Just saying...
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by JastSiryin(m): 1:03pm On Sep 06, 2020
Even the dumbest of people know that it was nothing but a political statement
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Toscarel: 1:06pm On Sep 06, 2020
ArmedRobber:
You nyamiris re difficult to understand, you people always have one or two conspiracy theories for every statement your political enemies utters even if it is a positive..


Your name says it all

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Nobody: 1:11pm On Sep 06, 2020
Buhari’s nepotism is very bad. Despite his disdain for people from other parts of the country, insecurity and disasters have ravaged his own people. No peace for the wicked.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by 36STATES: 1:15pm On Sep 06, 2020
I am certain there is no one with the level of intellect from your region of Nigeria like the Iroko San. Abaribe. When you see an Iroko, you need not be told. Abaribe is a great Iroko!

The highest level you and your people will attain will always be "members of a media group" to a politician or the usual krovo in the Nigerian army. It is a shame for you to think it's O.K to spend your whole life doing the work of media group?

Fulani herdsmen have sacked and murdered so many people from your corner of Nigeria, but you are not bothered, you are only interested in your hate for Igbos and your miserable job as a media group member to a politician.


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SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now after election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 


Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. We heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

We really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

We have learnt not to bother ourself anymore to avoid unnecessary arguements with nonentities
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it..

Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

J.I


Only a sensible person like you can ever see sense in this.
Glad to see we still have intelligent people with a sound mind like you around.
God bless you.
God bless Nigeria.

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by adanny01(m): 1:19pm On Sep 06, 2020
post=93632918:


SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now after election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 


Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. We heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

We really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

We have learnt not to bother ourself anymore to avoid unnecessary arguements with nonentities
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it..

Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

J.I


Only a sensible person like you can ever see sense in this.
Glad to see we still have intelligent people with a sound mind like you around.
God bless you.
God bless Nigeria.

Please tell them.

I have been arguing with Igbos physically and online.

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by MajorOvakporaye(f): 1:25pm On Sep 06, 2020
beejaay:


So to you, all you could take from this is position.. We are talking abut existential problem and you are thinking about turf war... Na wa ooo.. Everything is not a war, think about us the people once in a while abeg

The person you quoted knows nothing. He's a useless fellow

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Nobody: 1:25pm On Sep 06, 2020
In 2023, Nigeria needs a leader, not another nepotistic person like Buhari. Buhari is even a curse to his own people. Look at how Bandits have overran Katsina and other Northern states. Seeing the amount of debt, Buhari’s administration have incurred and how much we spend on debt servicing. He has already handicapped the administrations after him. It won’t be easy for the next administration. We complained that Nigeria was in a pit before he came. Buhari is digging a deeper one.

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by tsagir(m): 1:28pm On Sep 06, 2020
OSINBAJO/EL-RUFAI 2023
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Fuadx1(m): 1:28pm On Sep 06, 2020
KEVIND:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/09/2023-zoning-controversy-why-the-south-should-not-believe-el-rufai-abaribe/
Everything he said here makes sense to me. We didn't choose the best of us from north so we'll continue to suffer insults from his bad precedence. The worst part of it is that the living condition of the average northerner has worsened. This is not the change we voted for.

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by royalamour(m): 1:33pm On Sep 06, 2020
WhizdomXX:
Surprisingly with everything these man said, I can vouch for him and say he's a good leader. Just hope these are not tongue in cheek statements and his words interpret his actions if not I withdraw my endorsement.
What is wrong if Igbo's produce someone that says the truth as it is and bring up solutions to the problems clogging the nation's development.

Dude, it's either you are being mischievous or you are a snake.

Which vouch?

We are not blind.

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Nobody: 1:39pm On Sep 06, 2020
Anaerobi:

Peter Obi have played the local league and now graduated to National League.... so let's still give soludo time to also come up... it's a gradual process.

from CBN governor to governor of a state

even his colleague who served as deputy CBN governor muoghalu contested for president.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by HundredWays(m): 1:50pm On Sep 06, 2020
ArmedRobber:
You nyamiris re difficult to understand, you people always have one or two conspiracy theories for every statement your political enemies utters even if it is positive..

checking ur profile and previous posts.. says alot about how u hate Igbos..
U're a disgrace to human race and one body of nation..
Clown undecided

*Spits*

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by favor914: 2:07pm On Sep 06, 2020
proeast:
Enyinnaya Abaribe is among the very few men of honour left among Nigerian politicians. He is about the only Southern senator that speaks truth to power courageously.
What of Orji Kalu & Theodore Orji his mentors, aren’t all 3 the Senators Representatives of Abia State?
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by dokyOloye: 2:09pm On Sep 06, 2020
helinues:
All this initial gra gra would end up in Second fiddle position.

You mustn't always make a fool of yourself.
It's not a must you act the fool every time!
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by favor914: 2:10pm On Sep 06, 2020
HundredWays:
checking ur profile and previous posts.. says alot about how u hate Igbos..
U're a disgrace to human race and one body of nation..
Clown undecided

*Spits*
Wow for you to go and read his previous comments, you must have been touched by what he said?
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by stanisbaratheon: 2:14pm On Sep 06, 2020
It is only a foolish southerner that would vote an extremist like El-rufai as president.

Northern candidates should tell Nigerians their positions on sharia law before they can be voted because two laws cannot be used in governing one country.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Maduawuchukwu(m): 2:23pm On Sep 06, 2020
Ategberoson:
hell Rufai says has no effect, whether he support or not, it has no relevance in 2023 decision


Igbo should fight for PDP ticket and let Yoruba get APC ticket or we sit on a round table to discuss secession


You dont tell we the Igbo people what to do. Focus on your presidential race and leave us to make our decision.

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