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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by BIGGESThead6: 2:32pm On Sep 06, 2020
Promoter2:
Peter Obi yes.

Soludo, oga is busy fighting for Anambra Governorship.


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Peter Obi is a failure, he made Atiku loose the last general election.

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Magicians: 2:40pm On Sep 06, 2020
Peter Obi the criminal who spent Anambra state funding building himself the biggest mail in the country while he was the governor of Anambra. There is yet to be another diehard criminal as dubious n devilish in the hitlstory of Nigeria except for Abacha.

Promoter2:
Peter Obi yes.

Soludo, oga is busy fighting for Anambra Governorship.


See my siggy for your business marketing

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by WhizdomXX(m): 2:47pm On Sep 06, 2020
royalamour:


Dude, it's either you are being mischievous or you are a snake.

Which vouch?

We are not blind.
Lol, I'm neither of both. Everything he said in his statement was rightfully said, it's only that they say something and act differently. Sadly, it's a normal thing in Nigeria, catching cruise with the electorates. Of course we are not blind, we are watching them closely. Peace.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Ategberoson(m): 2:47pm On Sep 06, 2020
Maduawuchukwu:



You dont tell we the Igbo people what to do. Focus on your presidential race and leave us to make our decision.


like i give a damn son


who you EPP?
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by ArmedRobber: 2:56pm On Sep 06, 2020
HundredWays:
checking ur profile and previous posts.. says alot about how u hate Igbos..
U're a disgrace to human race and one body of nation..
Clown undecided

*Spits*
koshi danu
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Ghostmode2two(m): 3:00pm On Sep 06, 2020
Believe El Rufai at your own peril
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by sulaak(m): 3:13pm On Sep 06, 2020
36STATES:
I am certain there is no one with the level of intellect from your region of Nigeria like the Iroko San. Abaribe. When you see an Iroko, you need not be told. Abaribe is a great Iroko!

The highest level you and your people will attain will always be "members of a media group" to a politician or the usual krovo in the Nigerian army. It is a shame for you to think it's O.K to spend your whole life doing the work of media group?

Fulani herdsmen have sacked and murdered so many people from your corner of Nigeria, but you are not bothered, you are only interested in your hate for Igbos and your miserable job as a media group member to a politician.




Are you sure you read post? if not, I have posted a summary of his post for you. Any logical person will understand that political power is earned and not given.

:


SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?
NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by ojaysam25(m): 3:14pm On Sep 06, 2020
Blunt truth
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by HundredWays(m): 3:49pm On Sep 06, 2020
favor914:
Wow for you to go and read his previous comments, you must have been touched by what he said?
yes.. I checked and found nothing but a Clown
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Martartins(m): 4:01pm On Sep 06, 2020
Make no mistake, the South's are not fools. The North may have the numbers, which give them an advantage in a democratic setting. However, power can change hands depending on what is driving the economy at any point in time.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Baba40(f): 4:22pm On Sep 06, 2020
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Golan007: 4:37pm On Sep 06, 2020
Ipob thread.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Onlyonebuhari: 4:43pm On Sep 06, 2020
Nonsense as usual
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Nobody: 5:04pm On Sep 06, 2020
HundredWays:
checking ur profile and previous posts.. says alot about how u hate Igbos..
U're a disgrace to human race and one body of nation..
Clown undecided

*Spits*



He's a jihadist
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Fourwinds: 5:54pm On Sep 06, 2020
ArmedRobber:
You nyamiris re difficult to understand, you people always have one or two conspiracy theories for every statement your political enemies utters even if it is positive..

oh...you be armedrobber...Isorite
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Nobody: 6:21pm On Sep 06, 2020
ArmedRobber:
You nyamiris re difficult to understand, you people always have one or two conspiracy theories for every statement your political enemies utters even if it is positive..

THE GAP BETWEEN OUR LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING AND INTELLIGENCE____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ......WITH THAT OF THE ABOKI
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by earnit3: 7:18pm On Sep 06, 2020
Oh
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Lovelive: 11:39pm On Sep 06, 2020
Bamgbose described the APC as a party with no sympathy whatsoever for the poor masses.



Bamgbose lamented that it was quite unfortunate that the All Progressives Congress, APC, which promised better life, good governance, positive change to Nigerians, has successfully made reverse the case.
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Nobody: 1:48am On Sep 07, 2020
Mtcheww...Who ask them to believe him?
Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Nobody: 2:56am On Sep 07, 2020
post=93632918:


SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now after election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 


Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. We heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

We really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

We have learnt not to bother ourself anymore to avoid unnecessary arguements with nonentities
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it..

Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

J.I


Only a sensible person like you can ever see sense in this.
Glad to see we still have intelligent people with a sound mind like you around.
God bless you.
God bless Nigeria.
It does not take time to see write-up that were "made in Lagos" You have your birds but this one can not fly.

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Re: Abaribe: Why The South Should Not Believe El-Rufai On 2023 Presidency by Cyoung4real(m): 10:02am On Sep 07, 2020
post=93632918:


SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now after election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 


Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. We heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

We really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

We have learnt not to bother ourself anymore to avoid unnecessary arguements with nonentities
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it..

Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

J.I


Only a sensible person like you can ever see sense in this.
Glad to see we still have intelligent people with a sound mind like you around.
God bless you.
God bless Nigeria.


Why can't you use your brain and write something? Must you always copy and paste? are you that dumb??

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