Since the same set theives/ politicians will run it. There will be no difference

Kekereekun123:
Since the same set theives/ politicians will run it. There will be no difference

And so what do you suggest?

It's like you don't know the meaning of restructure.


What do you suggest, lemme hear you opinion before I say mine

Is restructuring a bad thing?

Anyways it's either we restructure of breakaway with the events unfolding lately ,I doubt if Nigeria will last 3 years..

Kekereekun123:
Since the same set theives/ politicians will run it. There will be no difference

We just have to try it.

The atmosphere is too tensed now

"Nobody wants it bloody any day"

The better question is what is restructuring?

Kekereekun123:
Since the same set theives/ politicians will run it. There will be no difference

There will be great difference because the present structure is a breeding ground for corruption with impunity.

Okoroawusa:
The better question is what is restructuring?

Restructuring is what we need at this time due to the unitary form of government we are practising that has centralised every facet of the economy thereby crippling the efficacy of all sectors from Security, Banking, Health, Education and many more.

The best arrangement for Nigeria is to have a real federation with a finely calibrated balance of powers and responsibilities between the central and federating units. The federating units can look after themselves more effectively without the feeding bottle of the central government.

The center becomes less powerful, but not weak, because it will retain core sovereign responsibilities such as the armed forces and security services, citizenship and immigration, foreign affairs, and the central bank.

The federating units should be the six geopolitical zones and not the present structure of states. Not less than 30 states in our present 36-state structure are economically unviable if left on their own without federal allocations or bail-out of by the Central Bank of Nigeria. This is partly because economic viability through fiscal sustainability was not seriously considered as a factor in state creation exercises in Nigeria, and partly because excessive reliance of natural resources (mainly crude oil) for fiscal revenues that are distributed by the central government has made states lazy for far too long. Many states in Nigeria still struggle to pay salaries of public servants.

A restructured Nigeria with the six geo-political zones as federating units will work much better because these zones each have economies of scale. Trade and manufacturing can happen inside each zone with a market large enough to meet demand, as well as to trade effectively with other zones in the federation because they will be able to control their resources in respective zones and not the present system of the federal government controlling everything without the states or zones enjoying the full dividends of their contribution.

And talking about the 6 zones, we have. The North Central (NC), North East (NE), North West (NW), South West (SW), South East (SE) and South (SS)
Each of these zones will just be like a stand alone country using their resources to build their region and there wont be need for Biafra anymore as the South Eastern region will be like Biafra where the Igbos can use their human and mineral resources to develope their region, The South West will be like Oduduwa repulblic and the SouthSouth will be the Niger delta region where they can now use their oil to develope their region.

So we will have different regions suffix to say different countries making up one great entity called Nigeria and that position of being the giant of Africa,African largest economy and the most populous black nation on earth will be more dominant and the country will be one big indivisible entity.

This will not affect any tribe of any region that is living or already established businesswise in other regions as there will be freedom of movement and commercial activities regardless of the region you belong cos we still have one identity as Nigerians.

If the above structure is implemented,there will be an accelerated competitive development in all the zones with a positive resultant effect of a bigger, better, stronger Nigeria. A fantastic option to disintegration and the talks of Biafra, oduduwa or Arewa repulblic will be forgotten forever.

You think if Nigeria is restructured and illiterate will be the head of PhD holders in academic or professional matters. Wake up!

Toks2008:


There will be great difference because the present structure is a breeding ground for corruption with impunity.

how will there be a difference Same apc and pdp will still be rulers. The rich zones will have more to steal while the poor ones will have nothing and probably die off. The same awolowo akintola fight will still arise in Tinubu and another of his boys. Even in developed nations government support poor states or province. Restructuring cannot save 9ja

Kekereekun123:
Since the same set theives/ politicians will run it. There will be no difference

Restructuring can actually work when we all agree to do the right thing.

First strengthen all our political institutions to carry out there assign function without fear and set up a monitoring unit which should comprise of civil society to check the abuse of office holder. Trust me everybody go behave when u know that if u get caught u likely to go for it.

Kekereekun123:
how will there be a difference Same apc and pdp will still be rulers. The rich zones will have more to steal while the poor ones will have nothing and probably die off. The same awolowo akintola fight will still arise in Tinubu and another of his boys. Even in developed nations government support poor states or province. Restructuring cannot save 9ja

So what will? Disintergration? So there wont be power tussle if we go our seperate ways?

Read my explanation on retructuring above so that you will understand that once we have resource control, each region will be like a seperate country unified with other countries(Regions) to make one big Nigeria.

Kekereekun123:
how will there be a difference Same apc and pdp will still be rulers. The rich zones will have more to steal while the poor ones will have nothing and probably die off. The same awolowo akintola fight will still arise in Tinubu and another of his boys. Even in developed nations government support poor states or province. Restructuring cannot save 9ja

If Nigeria is restructured along the lines of the 1963 constitution, it will be harder to steal because it is what you generate in your Region you get to keep. This current system where everyone is running to Abuja to recieve monthly allocation is a magnate for corruption. But when you are the one generating you own money and paying the centre, it becomes much harder to steal money because too many people know what is coming in snd what is going out. It also makes it easier to hold leaders accountable

Lalasticlala,
Seun,
Mynd44


Please do the needful. This is very informative.

Toks2008:



Restructuring is what we need at this time due to the unitary form of government we are practising that has centralised every facet of the economy thereby crippling the efficacy of all sectors from Security, Banking, Health, Education and many more.

The best arrangement for Nigeria is to have a real federation with a finely calibrated balance of powers and responsibilities between the central and federating units. The federating units can look after themselves more effectively without the feeding bottle of the central government.

The center becomes less powerful, but not weak, because it will retain core sovereign responsibilities such as the armed forces and security services, citizenship and immigration, foreign affairs, and the central bank.

The federating units should be the six geopolitical zones and not the present structure of states. Not less than 30 states in our present 36-state structure are economically unviable if left on their own without federal allocations or bail-out of by the Central Bank of Nigeria. This is partly because economic viability through fiscal sustainability was not seriously considered as a factor in state creation exercises in Nigeria, and partly because excessive reliance of natural resources (mainly crude oil) for fiscal revenues that are distributed by the central government has made states lazy for far too long. Many states in Nigeria still struggle to pay salaries of public servants.

A restructured Nigeria with the six geo-political zones as federating units will work much better because these zones each have economies of scale. Trade and manufacturing can happen inside each zone with a market large enough to meet demand, as well as to trade effectively with other zones in the federation because they will be able to control their resources in respective zones and not the present system of the federal government controlling everything without the states or zones enjoying the full dividends of their contribution.

If the above structure is implemented,there will be an accelerated competitive development in all the zones with a positive resultant effect of a bigger, better, stronger Nigeria. A fantastic option to disintegration.

If Nigeria is restructured, the current 6 geopolitical should not be used as a template. There can be 6 Regions, however, every Region must be created by referendum.

The reason why this Important is that there may be Yorubas or Yoruba speaking people in NC who may feel more at home in the Yoruba Region, there maybe Igbos or Igbo speaking people in the lower Benue and South South who feel better in the Igbo Region. There may even be other tribes who feel at home in the Yoruba Region or Igbo Region than they do in a South South Region

Ultimately, I think that in the South of Nigeria, there will 3 Regions, Yoruba Region, Igbo Region and may be some sort of South/South Region. But a referendum must be held to allow everyone choose which Region they wush be in

homosapien:



Restructuring can actually work when we all agree to do the right thing.

First strengthen all our political institutions to carry out there assign function without fear and set up a monitoring unit which should comprise of civil society to check the abuse of office holder. Trust me everybody go behave when u know that if u get caught u likely to go for it.

Restructuring cannot work in Nigeria most of the people in the country are illiterate. If you go to develop country Nigerians only what to vote for a criminal

Kekereekun123:
Since the same set theives/ politicians will run it. There will be no difference

Why don't you try it first?

If it is not good, then we come back to this downward drop kind of system again. May God forbid it.

Only the lazy and unambitious people are afraid of restructuring.

Some people will even feign not to know what restructuring is all about.
Read this.....

https://tribuneonlineng.com/restructuring-as-nigerias-final-lap/

gidgiddy:


If Nigeria is restructured, the current 6 geopolitical should not be used as a template. There can be 6 Regions, however, every Region must be created by referendum.

The reason why this Important is that there may be Yorubas or Yoruba speaking people in NC who may feel more at home in the Yoruba Region, there maybe Igbos or Igbo speaking people in the lower Benue and South South who feel better in the Igbo Region. There may even be other tribes who feel at home in the Yoruba Region or Igbo Region than they do in a South South Region

Ultimately, I think that in the South of Nigeria, there will 3 Regions, Yoruba Region, Igbo Region and may be some sort of South/South Region. But a referendum must be held to allow everyone choose which Region they wush be in

LOL! not at all, no need for that cos there will be freedom of expression,interraction,and establishment, it is just about comforming to the rules in that region.

The six regions are the best template.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


Restructuring cannot work in Nigeria most of the people in the country are illiterate. If you go to develop country Nigerians only what to vote for a criminal

Don't worry about the illiterates, the educated ones will be the people organizing the entire structure and the ''iliterates'' will simply maintain a status quo.

Toks2008:


LOL! not at all, no need for that cos there will be freedom of expression,interraction,and establishment, it is just about comforming to the rules in that region.

The six regions are the best template.

No, we cant use the template the military gave us, which is what the 36 states and 6 geopolitical zones are.

The people must be allowed to create their own template via referendum

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


Restructuring cannot work in Nigeria most of the people in the country are illiterate. If you go to develop country Nigerians only what to vote for a criminal

Your opinion ma'am.

gidgiddy:


No, we cant use the template the military gave us, which is what the 36 states and 6 geopolitical zones are.

The people must be allowed to create their own template via referendum

The fact that Military gave us does not negate the fact that it is what it is.

It is a perfect structure without any complication.

Bu if Edo for instance wants to be in the South West that is when the Edo people will now decide but I honestly think the regions are OK the way they are.

gidgiddy:


No, we cant use the template the military gave us, which is what the 36 states and 6 geopolitical zones are.

The people must be allowed to create their own template via referendum

Yes o, the military don't know GEOGRAPHY so they shared each like chicken selecting earthworms and cockcraches from the soil.

Taraba State and parts of Adamawa State looks like it belongs more to North Central than North East.

What ever restructuring that may happen, these four things must be in place

1. Resource control. This should be the foremost, and foremost and foremost. Nothing else should come before it.

2. Power. The authority to every aspect of generation, transmission and distribution of it should be in the concurrent list.

3. State Police. The experience we have had since the birth of this country with a population of over 200 million, more than 250 ethnic groups and a situation where you will have certain ethnic marauding groups killing and maiming people not of their ethnicity and SARs and every other things should reset our brain when it comes to having State Police. It is a MUST that each state should have its own Police.

4. This one is very important and also as a warning to those dumb political Southerners It is about the number of states we currently have in the federation.
The status quo should be maintained I repeat maintain it
It should not be merged to form 19 states stipulated by the north or into regions we had backed then.
If una doesn't want political dominance, ethnic dominance/resentment, geopolitical shortchanging una better maintain the status quo

5. Immunity.
All political office holders from the president to the ward councilors and civil servants working in the three tiers of government, should not be immuned to prosecution especially when it comes to CORRUPTION and ABUSE of POWER. If you guys want Governors to chop your money after you have gotten resource control, ignore this number 5

There are so many things to entail restructuring, but please and please start with this and every other thing will fall in place.

WARNING: the number of states in the federation should remain as such. You guys won't understand this until after you must have mistakenly gone back to your vomit(regions like we had before). Should it even be a possibility let the 36 capitals become world class cities competing with the numerous cities in USA.

That's why United Kingdom has England, Scotland, Ireland, and Wales.

The English, Scots, Irish, and Welsh.

gidgiddy:


If Nigeria is restructured along the lines of the 1963 constitution, it will be harder to steal because it is what you generate in your Region you get to keep. This current system where everyone is running to Abuja to recieve monthly allocation is a magnate for corruption. But when you are the one generating you own money and paying the centre, it becomes much harder to steal money because too many people know what is coming in snd what is going out. It also makes it easier to hold leaders accountable

Under the old 1963 constitution, looting and corruption was stilll around back then

I'll leave you with this quote from Nzeogwu's coup speech

Our enemies are
the political profiteers, the swindlers, the men in
high and low places that seek bribes and demand 10
percent; those that seek to keep the country divided
permanently so that they can remain in office as
ministers or VIPs at least, the tribalists, the
nepotists, those that make the country look big for
nothing before international circles, those that have
corrupted our society and put the Nigerian political
calendar back by their words and deeds.

If Nzeogwu was calling out corrupt people in 1966, that means the 1963 constiution obviously did no good in preventing corruption.

Nigeria before 1966 was not a perfect country. The poltical elite was just as corrupt, and the tribalism and such was just as bad.

PhiliptheArab:


Under the old 1963 constitution, looting and corruption was stilll around back then

I'll leave you with this quote from Nzeogwu's coup speech




If Nzeogwu was calling out corrupt people in 1966, that means the 1963 constiution obviously did no good in preventing corruption.

Nigeria before 1966 was not a perfect country. The poltical elite was just as corrupt, and the tribalism and such was just as bad.

i see alot of people who were not born in those times shouting lets go back to the constitution. I just dey laugh

PhiliptheArab:


Under the old 1963 constitution, looting and corruption was stilll around back then

I'll leave you with this quote from Nzeogwu's coup speech




If Nzeogwu was calling out corrupt people in 1966, that means the 1963 constiution obviously did no good in preventing corruption.

Nigeria before 1966 was not a perfect country. The poltical elite was just as corrupt, and the tribalism and such was just as bad.

Im not saying it would gdt rid of corruption completely, Im saying it will make corruption much harder to commit than than in the current system

Kekereekun123:
i see alot of people who were not born in those times shouting lets go back to the constitution. I just dey laugh

Restructuring in itself is not a bad idea, but the 1963 constution is not a good example.It certianly did not deal with corruption....read many of the writings from that time...like Enahoro's 'how to be a Nigerian'...and back then corruption was prevalent.

Even Achebe's No longer at ease...the hero eventually takes bribes which proves to be his downnfall..and it was set during the colonial era self!

Add the fact that Nigeria of 1963 was a different country from Nigeria today. The Nigeria of my childhood self is not the same country I see today.

In 1963, we had a smaller population, we had a guaranteed market for most of our products, and oil was just one of several things we produced. Today, we have to comepte with other countries in selling the oil we rely on. OPEC is not as strong as it was in the 1970's.

gidgiddy:


Im not saying it would gdt rid of corruption completely, Im saying it will make corruption much harder to commit than than in the current system

Well, I am here to tell you that the 1963 constituiton did not make corruption harder. Politicans were still stealing. If it did make things harder, Nzeogwu and Ifeajuana would have stayed in the barracks.(and chinua achebe won't have written 'A man of the people...which depicts corruption in Nigerian politics then in the person of the main character chief nana)

The reason why looting is so bad in Nigeria is because Nigeria is a resources dependent country. So, if Big Politican steals one billion naira, the sales of oil/cocoa/palmoil/groundnut that happen tomorrow can replace the money stolen...

Also, resource dependent countries like Nigeria don't depend on people's taxes...just the income comming in from oil today . groundnut,cocoa, palm oil, cotton, tin and columbite yesterday....so whoever controls the distrbution of the money can skim a bit sans consequences.(even now our tax to gdp ratio is one of the lowest in the world)

They are corrupt in the Industrialised world. The problem is, the source of income in the industrial west is taxes, and manufactring. And they cannot affford Nigerian level corruption because it would harm their earning power...so they fight against it. (That's also why China is super strict against corruption. If someone tried to steal money for electricity projects in china like they did in Nigeria...it would harm chinese industries, on which china relies on for its income, and on which its elite rely on for their riches, and on which the poor rely on for jobs....not good. )