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Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by huxley(m): 10:28am On Mar 11, 2011
Can one serve god too much?  Can one pray too much?  Can one pay too much tithes?

If god notices that one is serving him too much would he (god) intervene and ask the worshipper to take a break?  Is there some kind of limit beyond which anything done to serve god becomes excessive and dangerous?  Would god warn you when you have reached and exceeded that limit?

Take the case of people who have damaged their health or even died fasting in a bid to serve god - did they overdo it?  Or was their death a just reward for a prayerful servant of god?
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Blueice4re(f): 11:09am On Mar 11, 2011
I don't think so.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by huxley(m): 11:27am On Mar 11, 2011
Blueice4re:

I don't think so.

How about those who have died fasting ?
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Image123(m): 12:40pm On Mar 11, 2011
Huxley, why do you always abandon your threads, is it that your queries have been answered?
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by obowunmi(m): 1:14pm On Mar 11, 2011
I know people who have put their health in danger by fasting for a long time ------ and then died trying to impress their pastor.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Jenwitemi(m): 3:10pm On Mar 11, 2011
Ikuwunmi. . . sad
obowunmi:

I know people who have put their health in danger by fasting for a long time ------ and then died trying to impress their pastor.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Sweetdoct247(m): 4:10pm On Mar 11, 2011
That sounds like outright foolishness to me. U don't necessarily have to fast beyond the level your body cannot withstand.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Pukkah: 4:14pm On Mar 11, 2011
Is the person trying to force God to do something that He ordinarily won't do? And after getting what he wanted, if he gets it, does he stop fasting?
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by yemisolar(m): 5:42pm On Mar 11, 2011
@poster

the way people  fasted in the old tstament is diffrent from how it it in th nw testament.

fasting is not a service to God.

fasting makes it easy for you to hear God. its like cleaning your antenna so that you can receive clearer.

that is why fasting without praying and reading the bible is like goring on hunger strike.

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Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Nobody: 7:06pm On Mar 11, 2011
As long as the motives are right and it is God they are serving and not man (pastor), God refreshes his servants and renews them like the eagle.
Yet, He has said it, but we receive only if we believe it.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by manmustwac(m): 3:53pm On Mar 12, 2011
starving yourself to serve god. nawoa  man must wack oh undecided
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Nobody: 6:40pm On Mar 22, 2011
huxley:

Can one serve god too much?  Can one pray too much?  Can one pay too much tithes?

If god notices that one is serving him too much would he (god) intervene and ask the worshipper to take a break?  Is there some kind of limit beyond which anything done to serve god becomes excessive and dangerous?  Would god warn you when you have reached and exceeded that limit?

Take the case of people who have damaged their health or even died fasting in a bid to serve god - did they overdo it?  Or was their death a just reward for a prayerful servant of god?
Many models and athletes abstain from different types of food, they subject themselves to strenuous regimes of training and discipline.
I suggest you go and complain to the trainers/employers of these models/athletes regarding their lifestyle: which is equally dangerous. Some models have body mass indexes that are dangerously below 18, others suffer from anorexia. . . all in a bid to catwalk and get paid for it. . .

If you do not believe in God, then stop talking about God. . .
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Sweetnecta: 8:37pm On Mar 22, 2011
there are rules for worshiping God; the rule for each of worship is from God. alone. you cant make it up. if you do, you have not worshiped at all.

Allah says to the Messenger about his after midnight prayer, to not do it all night, part of the night, 50% a little less or a little more. we the followers of the prophet [as] are told that it is 1/3 of the night. the at one so that you could make your morning prayer in the same wake up period. in addition, we are given 5 daily prayers, at prescribed times. in between, you have your time to do things of life, including afternoon nap.

and fasting is prescribed between before dawn and after sunset, in the month of ramadhan.

the other fast, if obligatory will not be 1 full month long. while it is permissible to fast, there is no permissibility to fast all year round, or months without a break. when you are not even capable to fast in ramadhan, you can repat what you miss, before the next ramadhan.

islam is easy. it permits marriage and forbids extremist in all its form while recommending moderation and middle course, alone. Allah does not make religion of Islam, the way to worship Him a burden on mankind. but a means of direct connection to Him, staying in remembrance, often returning to Him.

prescribed charity has its ruling, too.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Dulcet7(m): 2:03am On Mar 23, 2011
imhotep:

Many models and athletes abstain from different types of food, they subject themselves to strenuous regimes of training and discipline.
I suggest you go and complain to the trainers/employers of these models/athletes regarding their lifestyle: which is equally dangerous. Some models have body mass indexes that are dangerously below 18, others suffer from anorexia. . . all in a bid to catwalk and get paid for it. . .

If you do not believe in God, then stop talking about God. . .
+1
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Image123(m): 10:53am On Mar 23, 2011
^he can hardly stop. There's a big void in his life that he has to fill.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Joagbaje(m): 1:18pm On Mar 24, 2011
huxley:

Can one serve god too much?
MBA
  Can one pray too much?
MBA
Can one pay too much tithes?
VERY MBA!

If god notices that one is serving him too much would he (god) intervene and ask the worshipper to take a break?

No. Moses was going to kill himself for God due to lack of administrative wisdom .God didn't stop him. It is our responsibility to yield to wisdom

  Is there some kind of limit beyond which anything done to serve god becomes excessive and dangerous?

Not at all. But lack of wisdom that can result in such things No but one can have such result through the lack of wisdom. For example. Moses was over stretching himself and the people because he lacked the wisdom to delegate

  Would god warn you when you have reached and exceeded that limit?

He sends his word. We have the responsibility to embrace it.

Take the case of people who have damaged their health or even died fasting in a bid to serve god - did they overdo it?  Or was their death a just reward for a prayerful servant of god?

We are not fasting for God. He doesn't get anything by our fasting. We serve God with prayers, the fasting is to aid our prayer by fine-tuning our hearts and spirit. Fasting must be led of Gods spirit. Someone may be fasting in the flesh and thinks he is serving God. But it's merely starvation and waste of time.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by obowunmi(m): 5:51pm On Mar 24, 2011
Jenwitemi:

Ikuwunmi. . . sad

na OBO not Iku
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by oaroloye(m): 6:59am On Jan 28, 2020
SHALOM!

huxley:

Can one serve god too much?  Can one pray too much?  Can one pay too much tithes?

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to shew Himself strong
in the behalf of (them)
whose heart (is) perfect
toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars."

. AMOS 3:3.

3. "Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

THE MOST STUPID THING IN CHRISTIANITY IS THE VERSIONS THAT TEACH AS A GIVEN, THAT GOD DOES NOT HAVE TO BE WITH YOU, IN ANY USEFUL WAY, AT ALL.

According to STANDARD OYINBO THEOLOGY, THIEVES and ROBBERS can attack you- steal everything but your panties, and break every bone in your body- BUT GOD WAS STILL WITH YOU, THE WHOLE TIME!

When the GABRIEL DIYA and his family went holidaying in the a country that hates FULL GOSPEL PENTECOSTAL Christianity, and BLACKS the most, and were DECEIVED into swimming in REFRIGERATOR WATER, no OYINBOS were required to swim in, UNTIL HE, his Daughter, and Son DIED- according to REDEEMED CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD Dogma, God HAD THE POWER to TELL THEM that It was a TRAP, the whole time- BUT DID NOTHING!

They believe that GOD HAD THE POWER to Raise the Victims from the Dead- BUT DID NOTHING!

WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT SUCH A USELESS GOD AS THAT?

Such a god has no Power.

However, the Conventional Oyinbo Doctrine- that God is OMNIPOTENT, OMNIPRESENT, and OMNISCIENT is a LIE.

God never claimed to have those attributes.

. MATTHEW 17:14-16.

14. And when they were
come to the multitude,
there came to him
a certain man,
kneeling down to him,
and saying,

15. "Lord, have Mercy
on my son:
for he is lunatick,
and sore vexed:
for ofttimes he falleth
into the fire, and oft
into the water.
16. "And I brought him
to thy Disciples,
and they could not cure him."

. MARK 9:21-24.

21. And he asked his father,

"How long is it ago
since this came unto him?"

And he said,

"Of a child.
22. "And ofttimes it hath
cast him into the Fire,
and into the Waters,
to destroy him:
but if thou canst
do any thing,
have compassion on us,
and help us."

23. Jesus Said unto him,

"If thou canst Believe,
all things are possible
to him that Believeth."

24. And straightway
the father of the child
cried out,
and said with tears,

"Lord, I Believe;
help thou mine Unbelief."

. MATTHEW 17:17-21.

17. Then Jesus answered
and Said,

"O Faithless and
perverse generation,
how long shall I be with you?
How long shall I suffer you?
Bring him hither to me."

18. And Jesus rebuked
the Devil;
and he departed out of him:
and the child was cured
from that very hour.
19. Then came the Disciples
to Jesus apart,
and said,

"Why could not we
cast him out?"

20. And Jesus Said unto them,

"Because of your unbelief:
for verily I Say unto you,

'IF YE HAVE FAITH
AS A GRAIN
OF MUSTARD SEED,
YE SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,


"REMOVE HENCE
TO YONDER PLACE;"

AND IT SHALL REMOVE;
AND NOTHING
SHALL BE IMPOSSIBLE
UNTO YOU.'


21 "Howbeit this kind
goeth not out
but by Prayer and Fasting."

ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE WITH GOD- BUT ONLY IF ONE IS ACTUALLY WITH GOD.

Imagining that one is with God has no Power to It.

huxley:

If god notices that one is serving him too much would he (god) intervene and ask the worshipper to take a break?  Is there some kind of limit beyond which anything done to serve god becomes excessive and dangerous?  Would god warn you when you have reached and exceeded that limit?

IF GOD IS WITH ONE, ONE CAN DO ANYTHING!

. DEUTERONOMY 9:8-19.

8. Also in Horeb
ye provoked The LORD
to wrath,
so that The LORD
was angry with you
to have destroyed you.
9. When I was gone up
into the mount
to receive The Tables
of stone,
even The Tables
of The Covenant
Which The LORD made
with you,
then I abode in
the mount forty days
and forty nights,
I neither did eat bread
nor drink water:
10. And The LORD
delivered unto me
two Tables of stone
written with
The Finger of God;
and on them was written
according to all The Words, which The LORD Spake
with you in the mount
out of the midst of the Fire
in the Day of The Assembly.
11. And it came to pass
at the end of forty days
and forty nights,
that The LORD gave me
the two Tables of stone,
even The Tables
of The Covenant.
12. And The LORD Said
unto me,

"ARISE,
GET THEE DOWN
QUICKLY FROM HENCE;
FOR THY PEOPLE
WHICH THOU HAST
BROUGHT FORTH
OUT OF EGYPT HAVE CORRUPTED THEMSELVES;
THEY ARE QUICKLY
TURNED ASIDE
OUT OF THE WAY
WHICH I COMMANDED THEM;
THEY HAVE MADE THEM
A MOLTEN IMAGE."


13. Furthermore The LORD Spake unto me, Saying,

"I HAVE SEEN
THIS PEOPLE,
AND, BEHOLD,
IT IS A STIFFNECKED PEOPLE:
14. "LET ME ALONE,
THAT I MAY DESTROY THEM,
AND BLOT OUT THEIR NAME
FROM UNDER HEAVEN:
AND I WILL MAKE OF THEE
A NATION MIGHTIER
AND GREATER
THAN THEY."


15. So I turned
and came down
from the mount,
and the mount
burned with fire:
and the two Tables
of The Covenant
were in my two hands.
16. And I looked,
and, behold,
ye had Sinned
against The LORD your God, and had made you
a molten calf:
ye had turned aside quickly
out of The Way
Which The LORD
had Commanded you.
17. And I took
the two Tables,
and cast them
out of my two hands,
and brake them
before your eyes.
18. And I fell down
before The LORD,
as at the first,
forty days and forty nights:
I did neither eat bread,
nor drink water,
because of all your Sins
which ye Sinned,
in doing wickedly
in The Sight of The LORD, to provoke him to anger.
19. For I was afraid
of The Anger
and Hot Displeasure,
wherewith The LORD
was Wroth against you
to destroy you.
But The LORD
hearkened unto me
at that time also.

MOSES SPENT EIGHTY DAYS AND EIGHTY NIGHTS WITHOUT EATING NOR DRINKING.

That is not physiologically-impossible- one should merely need to be 40lbs or 20kg overweight, and in a humid environment, where one could absorb one's minimum daily requirement of water through one's skin.

If that were what happened, Moses would have been in no shape to lug tablets of stone around, nor supervise executions.

Clearly, God sustained his bodily needs.

. MATTHEW 19:16-30.

16. And, behold, one came
and said unto him,

"Good Master,
what good thing shall I do,
that I may have Eternal Life?"

17. And he saith unto him,

"Why callest thou me 'Good?'
(There is) none Good but One,
(that is,) God:
but if thou wilt enter into Life,
keep The Commandments."

18. He saith unto him,

"Which?"

Jesus Said,

"THOU SHALT DO NO MURDER
THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,
THOU SHALT NOT STEAL,
THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS,
19. "HONOUR THY FATHER
AND (THY) MOTHER: and,
THOU SHALT LOVE
THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF."


20. The young man saith unto him,

"All these thing things
have I kept from my youth up:
what lack I yet?"

21. Jesus Saith unto him,

"If thou wilt be perfect,
go (and) sell that thou hast,
and give to the Poor,
and thou shalt have
Treasure in Heaven:
and come (and) follow me."

22. But when the young man
heard that Saying,
he went away sorrowful:
for he had great possessions.
23. Then Said Jesus
unto his Disciples,

"Verily I Say unto you,

'THAT A RICH MAN
SHALL HARDLY ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'


24. "Again I Say unto you,

'IT IS EASIER
FOR A CAMEL
TO GO THROUGH
THE EYE OF A NEEDLE,
THAN FOR A RICH MAN
TO ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' "


25. When his Disciples
heard (it)
they were
exceedingly amazed,
saying,

"Who then
can be Saved?"

26. But Jesus beheld (them),
and Said unto them,

"With men this is impossible;
but with God all things are possible."

27. Then answered Peter
and said unto him,

"Behold, we have forsaken all,
and followed thee;
what shall we have therefore?"

28. And Jesus Said unto them,

"Verily I Say unto you,

'THAT YE WHICH HAVE FOLLOWED ME,
IN THE REGENERATION
WHEN THE SON OF MAN
SHALL SIT IN THE THRONE
OF HIS GLORY,
YE ALSO SHALL SIT
UPON TWELVE THRONES,
JUDGING THE TWELVE TRIBES
OF ISRAEL.
29. 'AND EVERY ONE
THAT HATH
FORSAKEN HOUSES,
OR BRETHREN, OR SISTERS,
OR FATHER, OR MOTHER,
OR WIFE, OR CHILDREN,
OR LANDS,
FOR MY NAME'S SAKE,
SHALL RECEIVE AN HUNDREDFOLD,
AND SHALL INHERIT EVERLASTING LIFE.'


30. "But many that are first
shall be last;
and the last shall be first."

BELIEVING GOD EXISTS IS BULLSHIT- WHEN HIS STATED AND SPECIFIED REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY!

huxley:

Take the case of people who have damaged their health or even died fasting in a bid to serve god - did they overdo it?  Or was their death a just reward for a prayerful servant of god?

. LUKE 5:36-39.

36. And he Spake also
a Parable unto them;

"No man putteth
a piece of a new garment
upon an old;
if otherwise,
then both the new
maketh a rent,
and the piece that was
taken out of the new
agreeth not with the old.
37. "And no man putteth
new wine into old bottles;
else the new wine
will burst the bottles,
and be spilled,
and the bottles shall perish.
38. "But new wine
must be put into new bottles;
and both are preserved.
39. "No man also
having drunk old wine
straightway desireth new:
for he saith,

'THE OLD IS BETTER.' "

The Kingdom of God cannot be applied PIECEMEAL- that is to say, you cannot live as a NATURAL MAN, and just take parts of The Kingdom of God that you WANT, and APPLY them to your life- ignoring other requirements of God: THAT WILL ULTIMATELY KILL YOU.

[To be Concluded.]

Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by oaroloye(m): 10:39am On Jan 28, 2020
[Continued:]

The DIVINE PROSPERITY Doctrine has worked only sparingly, at best, if at all- because NO CHRISTIAN HAS EVER "FORSAKEN ALL, AND FOLLOWED LORD YESHUA;" they ALWAYS forsook LESS THAN ALL- and followed the DENOMINATIONS, SECTS, or CULTS that they gave their allegiance to, instead of Lord Yeshua.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN Spake Jesus
to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,

"The scribes and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye
after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind
heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master,
even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall
exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall
humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye shut up
The Kingdom of Heaven
against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them
that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence
make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive
The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him
twofold more
The Child of Hell
than yourselves."

ANY CHURCH LEAD BY ORDAINED CLERGY IS FAKE.

They invariably pattern themselves after THE PHARISEES, and take on ALL of their characteristics.

Whereas those joining their Churches from pure ignorance think that these are "THE GREAT POWER OF GOD," and are HELPING them, in Reality, THEY ARE HOLDING THEM BACK FROM GLORY!

.. LUKE 16:1-15.

AND he said also unto his Disciples,

"There was a certain rich man,
which had a steward;
and the same was accused unto him
that he had wasted his goods.
2. "And he called him,
and said unto him,

'HOW IS IT THAT
I HEAR THIS OF THEE?
GIVE AN ACCOUNT
OF THY STEWARDSHIP;
FOR THOU MAYEST BE
NO LONGER STEWARD.'


3. "Then the steward said
within himself,

'WHAT SHALL I DO?
FOR MY LORD
TAKETH AWAY FROM ME
THE STEWARDSHIP:
I CANNOT DIG,
TO BEG I AM ASHAMED.
4. 'I AM RESOLVED
WHAT TO DO,
THAT, WHEN I AM
PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP,
THEY MAY RECEIVE ME
INTO THEIR HOUSES.'


5. "So he called every one
of his lord's debtors unto him,
and said unto the first,

'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU
UNTO MY LORD?'


6. "And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY,
AND WRITE FIFTY.'


7. "Then said he to another,

'AND HOW MUCH
OWEST THOU?'


And he said,

'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'

And he said unto him,

'TAKE THY BILL,
AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'


8. "And the lord commended
the Unjust Steward,
because he had done wisely:
for the Children of this World
are in their Generation
wiser than the Children of Light.
9. "And I Say unto you,

'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS
OF THE MAMMON
OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS;
THAT, WHEN YE FAIL,
THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU
INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'


10. "He that is Faithful
in that which is Least
is Faithful also in Much:
and he that is Unjust
in the Least
is Unjust also in Much.
11. "If therefore ye have not been
Faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon,
who will commit to your trust
The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not
been Faithful
in that which is
another man's,
who shall give you
that which is your own?
13. "No Servant can
serve two Masters:
for either he will hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon."

14. And the Pharisees also,
who were Covetous,
heard all these things,
and they derided him.
15. And he Said unto them,

"Ye are they
which justify yourselves
before Men;
but God knoweth
your hearts:
for that which is
Highly Esteemed
amongst Men
is Abomination
in The Sight of God."

THEY BECOME BELOVED OF THEIR FOLLOWERS, BY BLASPHEMOUSLY TELLING THEM, OR DECEITFULLY IMPLYING, THAT THEY ARE AUTHORIZED, BY GOD, TO REDUCE THE LOAD OF COMMANDMENTS AND PRECEPTS OF GOD, THAT THEY MUST TEACH (WHEAT) AND DO (OIL).

When Death results- when it can no longer be denied that the Fake Doctrines ARE. NOT. WORKING! they PRETEND NOT TO UNDERSTAND what happened.

"WE'LL ALL UNDERSTAND IT, WHEN WE GET TO HEAVEN!"

Who told them that they were going to Heaven?

. JOHN 14:1-27.

"LET not your heart
be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House
there are Mansions:
if it were not so,
I would have told you.
3. "And if I go
and prepare a place for you,
I will come again,
and receive you unto myself;
that where I am,
there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."

5. Thomas saith unto him,

"Lord, we know not
whither thou goest;
and how can we
know The Way?"

6. Jesus Saith unto him,

"I am The Way,
The Truth,
and The Life:
no man cometh
unto The Father,
but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have known
my Father also:
and from henceforth
ye know Him,
and have seen Him."

8. Philip saith unto him,

"Lord, shew us the Father,
and it sufficeth us."

9. Jesus Saith unto him,

"Have I been
so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not
known me, Philip?
He that hath seen me
hath seen The Father;
and how sayest thou then,

'SHEW US THE FATHER?'

10. "Believest thou not
that I am in The Father,
and The Father in me?
The Words that I Speak
unto you I Speak not
of myself:
but The Father
that dwelleth in me,
He doeth the Works.
11. "Believe me that I am
in The Father,
and The Father in me:
or else believe me
for the very Works' sake.
12. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;
AND GREATER WORKS
THAN THESE SHALL HE DO;
BECAUSE I GO
UNTO MY FATHER.'


13. "And whatsoever ye shall
ask in my Name,
that will I do,
that The Father may be
Glorified in The Son.
14. "If ye shall ask
any thing in my Name,
I will do it.
15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. "And I will pray The Father,
and He shall give you
another Comforter,
that He may abide with you
for ever;
17. "Even The Spirit of Truth;
Whom the World cannot receive,
because It seeth Him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.
18. "I will not leave you comfortless:
I will come to you.
19. "Yet a little while,
and the World
seeth me no more;
but ye see me:
because I live,
ye shall live also.
20. "At that Day
ye shall know
that I am in my Father,
and ye in me,
and I in you.
21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."

22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it
that thou wilt
manifest thyself
unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus answered
and Said unto him,

"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's
Which sent me.
25. "These things
have I Spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father will send
in my Name,
He shall Teach you
all things,
and bring all things
to your Remembrance,
whatsoever I have Said
unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart
be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."

IF YOU LOVE LORD YESHUA, YOU KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: IF YOU KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, HE AND GOD: THE FATHER BOTH LOVE YOU: IF LORD YESHUA AND GOD THE FATHER BOTH LOVE YOU, THEY WILL BOTH COME YO YOU WITH THE HOLY GHOST: AND IF THEY ARE WITH YOU, THEY WILL GIVE YOU ACCESS TO THEIR WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND POWER.

You know that LORD YESHUA was no more in the Early Church, when they held a LOTTERY to choose YUDAH of Iscariot's replacement.

They could not ASK LORD YESHUA whom HE wanted to replace YUDAH with.

The next clue was when CEPHAS TOLD THE PUBLIC that LORD YESHUA WAS THE CHRIST.

He had FORBIDDEN them to do that. Everyone who teaches men that "Lord YESHUA is THE CHRIST" is ALWAYS a Deceiver.

The THIRD proof is when ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA were both KILLED over MONEY, on an UNPROVEN ALLEGATION.

Which "WORK OF YESHUA" was THAT? Was THAT the great MERCY and FORGIVENESS we were Promised?

After that, it became POSSIBLE for Satan to KILL CHRISTIANS.

That was because LORD YESHUA WAS NOT THERE.

You will notice that NOT ONE of the THOUSANDS of Early Church members in YASHARAYLIM was THERE to BACK UP STEPHEN, nor to PROTECT him, nor to DIE with him.

Christians are SHEPHERDED (or Wolf-Herded) AWAY from THINKING in directions that will lead to the understanding that MOST OF THE NEW TESTAMENT IS LIES.

The Oyinbos desperately needed their Empire of FAKE CHRISTIANS to THINK that THE EPISTLES are "THE WORD OF GOD," so that they would NEVER know God, nor FIND GOD- because they no longer LOVED HIS SON, but IMAGINARY IDOLS that did not exist: FAKE JESUS- an Oyinbo like them- and his PHARISEEISM-CORRUPTED EX-FOLLOWERS- who deliberately led the Church into DEATH- while promoting themselves as "SAINTS."

huxley:

Can one serve god too much?  Can one pray too much?  Can one pay too much tithes?

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY SERVE GOD TOO MUCH, UNLESS GOD DOES NOT PROPORTIONATELY SERVE YOU BACK?

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY "PRAY TOO MUCH," UNLESS GOD DOES NOT ANSWER SOME, OR ANY OF YOUR PRAYERS, EXACTLY AS PROMISED?

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY PAY "TOO MUCH TITHES," WHEN TITHES ARE 10% OF WHAT YOU HAVE?

What sort of fucking miserably wretched life can you be living, that you cannot honour God with 10% of your income, or possessions?

You must mean OFFERINGS on top of TITHES. Right?

If you want to give your TITHES and OFFERINGS to a man or woman who CANNOT DO THE WORKS OF YESHUA, there is NO FOOL ON EARTH BIGGER THAN YOU!

Once a PASTOR prays for someone of his followers to be HEALED, and they DIE, INSTEAD- sensible followers should IMMEDIATELY DISBAND from that Church!

What the HELL could any intelligent Christian possibly want there?

This guy is a DEATH MERCHANT!

His FAITH does not WORK!

HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED ON TUBERCULOSIS JOSHUA'S WATCH?

I thought for YEARS that EVERYONE T.L. OSBORN, ORAL ROBERTS, and KENNETH HAGIN prayed for or merely TOUCHED were ALL HEALED INSTANTLY.

Why? That was because THAT WAS HOW THEY PROMOTED THEMSELVES!

Then, one sermon, KENNETH COPELAND (they all used to minister out of the same city, you see,) said that some airheaded bimvo (from his voice-imitation,) said to him:

"KENNETH HAGIN HAS PRAYED FOR ME, ORAL ROBERTS HAS PRAYED FOR ME, AND T.L. OSBORN HAS PRAYED FOR ME- NOW LET'S SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO!"

Kenneth Copeland said that he dryly replied:

"LADY! WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A TREATMENT!"

The seriousness of THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE focussing His ACTIVE ATTENTION on a PERSON has been REDUCED by the OYINBO HYPOCRITES to a COMMODITY!

You are invited to walk into a Church, listen to someone talk for a couple of hours- supposedly channeling God- and then they, supposedly with GOD INSIDE THEM, lay hands on you- and MAYBE you get Healed? ? ?

It is MADNESS!

If a DIVINE HEALING FAILS, it should be a VERY BIG DEAL!

No Church member should leave the premises! For what?

No one should have ANY further business with the outside world, until THIS PROBLEM IS SOLVED!

THEIR GOD HAS FAILED!

This is SERIOUS!

The whole Church should pray their ASSES off, until GOD is back online!

It is like being on a PLANE and the PILOT and Co-Pilot come down with FOOD-POISONING.

"IS THERE ANYONE HERE WITH FLIGHT EXPERIENCE?"

If everyone knows someone, and they aren't speaking up, is it not their responsibility to inform on them?

If the PASTOR'S PRAYER FAILS is there a "Fool Gospel" Church on Earth, where they don't TOTALLY IGNORE IT, and go about their business as usual?

Modern Organized Christians are complacent IDIOTS!

. DEUTERONOMY 28:49-57.

49. The LORD shall
bring a nation against thee
from far,
from the End of the Earth,
as swift as the eagle flieth;
a nation whose tongue
thou shalt not understand;
50. A nation of
fierce countenance,
which shall not regard
the person of the old,
nor shew favour to the young:
51. And he shall eat
the fruit of thy cattle,
and the fruit of thy land,
until thou be destroyed:
which also shall not
leave thee either corn,
wine, or oil,
or the increase of thy kine,
or flocks of thy sheep,
until he have destroyed thee.
52. And he shall besiege thee
in all thy gates,
until thy high and fenced walls
come down,
wherein thou trustedst,
throughout all thy land:
and he shall besiege thee
in all thy gates
throughout all thy land,
which The LORD thy God
hath given thee.
53. And thou shalt eat
the fruit of thine own body,
the flesh of thy sons
and of thy daughters,
which The LORD thy God
hath given thee, in the siege,
and in the straitness,
wherewith thine enemies
shall distress thee:
54. So that the man
that is tender among you,
and very delicate,
his eye shall be evil
toward his brother,
and toward the wife
of his bosom,
and toward the remnant
of his children
which he shall leave:
55. So that he will not
give to any of them
of the flesh of his children
whom he shall eat:
because he hath nothing
left him in the siege,
and in the straitness,
wherewith thine enemies
shall distress thee
in all thy gates.
56. The tender and delicate
woman among you,
which would not adventure
to set the sole of her foot
upon the ground
for delicateness
and tenderness,
her eye shall be evil
toward the husband
of her bosom,
and toward her son,
and toward her daughter,
57. And toward her young one
that cometh out from
between her feet,
and toward her children
which she shall bear:
for she shall eat them
for want of all things
secretly in the siege
and straitness,
wherewith thine enemy
shall distress thee
in thy gates.

. MATTHEW 6:16-34.

16. "Moreover when ye Fast,
be not, as the Hypocrites,
of a sad countenance:
for they disfigure their faces,
that they may appear
unto men to Fast.
Verily I Say unto you,

'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

17. "But thou, when thou Fastest,
anoint thine head,
and wash thy face;
18. "That thou appear not
unto men to Fast,
but unto thy Father
Which is in Secret:
and thy Father,
Which seeth in Secret,
shall Reward thee openly.

19. "Lay not up for yourselves
Treasures upon Earth,
where moth and rust
doth corrupt,
and where Thieves
break through and Steal:
20. "But lay up for yourselves
Treasures in Heaven,
where neither moth nor rust
doth corrupt,
and where Thieves
do not break through
nor Steal:
21. "For where your Treasure is,
there will your heart be also.
22. "The Light of the Body
is the Eye:
if therefore thine eye
be single,
thy whole Body
shall be full of Light.
23. "But if thine Eye be Evil,
thy whole Body
shall be full of Darkness.
If therefore the Light
that is in thee
be Darkness,
how great is that Darkness!

24. "No man can serve two masters:
for either he will
hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will
hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God
and mammon.
25. "Therefore I Say unto you,

'TAKE NO THOUGHT
FOR YOUR LIFE,
WHAT YE SHALL EAT,
OR WHAT YE SHALL DRINK;
NOR YET FOR YOUR BODY,
WHAT YE SHALL PUT ON.'


Is not the life more than meat,
and the body than raiment?
26. "Behold the Fowls
of the Air:
for they sow not,
neither do they reap,
nor gather into barns;
yet your Heavenly Father
feedeth them.
Are ye not much better
than they?
27. "Which of you
by taking thought
can add one cubit
unto his stature?
28. "And why take ye
thought for raiment?
Consider the lilies of the field,
how they grow; they toil not,
neither do they spin:
29. "And yet I Say unto you,

'THAT EVEN SOLOMON
IN ALL HIS GLORY
WAS NOT ARRAYED
LIKE ONE OF THESE.'


30. "Wherefore,
if God so clothe
the Grass of the Field,
which to day is,
and to morrow is
cast into the oven,
shall he not much more
clothe you,
O ye of little Faith?
31. "Therefore take no thought,
saying,

'WHAT SHALL WE EAT?'
or, 'WHAT SHALL WE DRINK?'
or, 'WHEREWITH SHALL WE BE CLOTHED?'


32. "[For after all these things
do the Gentiles seek:]
for your Heavenly Father
knoweth that ye have need
of all these things.
33. "But seek ye first
The Kingdom of God,
and His Righteousness;
and all these things
shall be added unto you.
34. "Take therefore no thought
for the morrow:
for the morrow
shall take thought
for the things of itself.
Sufficient unto the day
is the Evil thereof."

FASTING IS A SIEGE PROTOCOL, IN WHICH ONE CANNIBALIZES THEIR OWN BODY, IN ORDER TO SURVIVE AGAINST A THREAT.

FASTING, all by itself, can cure. 98% of Diseases and Ailments- according to FRANKLIN HALL, who had 40 years experience in teaching FASTING to Christians.

Our Biological Functions are made possible by SPIRITUAL POWER- less than 1% is enough to support the known Bodily functions. Below this minimum, Cognitive Functions fail, and one lapses into a COMATOSE state, and less than that, DEATH.

No matter how dead one is, one can be brought back to life by infusion of Spiritual Energy.

Everyone who has ever died will be reunited with their bodies- or duplicates of those bodies.

By the time one can control one's SOUL BODY "outside" one's PHYSICAL BODY, Death becomes less terrifying.

But when one can create new Flesh at will, Death becomes a JOKE.

[To be Concluded.]]
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by shadeyinka(m): 12:16pm On Jan 28, 2020
huxley:
Can one serve god too much?  Can one pray too much?  Can one pay too much tithes?

If god notices that one is serving him too much would he (god) intervene and ask the worshipper to take a break?  Is there some kind of limit beyond which anything done to serve god becomes excessive and dangerous?  Would god warn you when you have reached and exceeded that limit?

Take the case of people who have damaged their health or even died fasting in a bid to serve god - did they overdo it?  Or was their death a just reward for a prayerful servant of god?
No body can serve God by fasting. Fasting is pure personal discipline for the purpose of dedication to a cause.

You serve God by
1. Loving others as yourself
2. Winning souls for Christ
3. Using your Spiritual gifts, abilities and talents to build the spiritual life of others

There exist no other service outside this.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by oaroloye(m): 7:06pm On Jan 28, 2020
MISHIGAS!

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD."

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

. DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.

4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God
is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest
in thine house,
and when thou walkest
by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

. DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16.

13. Thou shalt not
have in thy bag
divers weights,
a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not
have in thine house
divers measures,
a great and a small.
15. (But) thou shalt have
a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure
shalt thou have:
that thy days
may be lengthened
in the land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
(and) all that do unrighteously,
(are) an abomination
unto The LORD thy God.

. DEUTERONOMY 27:18.

18. "Cursed be he
that maketh the blind
to wander out of the way."

And all the people shall say,

"AMEN."

.   DEUTERONOMY 27:26.

26. Cursed be he
that confirmeth not all
The Words of This Law
to do them.

And all the people shall say,

"AMEN."

. MATTHEW 10:16-20.

16. "Behold, I send you forth
as sheep in the midst
of wolves:
be ye therefore
wise as serpents,
and harmless as doves.
17. "But Beware of Men:
for they will deliver you up
to the Councils,
and they will scourge you
in their Synagogues;
18. "And ye shall be brought
before governors and kings
for my sake,
for a Testimony against them
and the Gentiles.
19. "But when they
deliver you up,
take no thought
how or what ye shall speak:
for it shall be given you
in that same hour
what ye shall speak.
20. "For it is not ye that speak,
but The Spirit of your Father
Which Speaketh in you."

. JOHN 3:34-36.

34. "For he whom God hath sent
speaketh The Words of God:
for God giveth not the Spirit
by measure unto him.
35. "The Father loveth The Son,
and hath given All Things
into his hand.
36. "He that believeth on
The Son
hath Everlasting Life:
and he that believeth not
The Son
shall not see Life;
but The Wrath of God
abideth on him."

WE KNOW THE ENEMIES OF GOD, OF THE CHURCH, OF OURSELVES, AND OF HUMANITY MOST EASILY- WHEN THEY DO NOT GIVE ANY SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES TO PROVE THEIR POINTS.

How can you speak God's Word, when God didn't send you?

shadeyinka:

No body can serve God by fasting.

WHAT CHURCH TAUGHT YOU THAT BLASPHEMOUS BULLSHIT?

. LEVITICUS 7:22-25.

22. And The LORD
Spake unto Moses,
Saying,

23. "Speak unto
the Children of Israel,
saying,

'YE SHALL EAT
NO MANNER OF FAT,
OF OX, OR OF SHEEP,
OR OF GOAT.'


24. "And the Fat of the Beast
that dieth of itself,
and the Fat of that
which is torn with Beasts,
may be used in any other use:
but ye shall in no wise
eat of it.
25. "For whosoever eateth
the Fat of the Beast,
of which men
offer an Offering
made by Fire
unto The LORD,
even the soul
that eateth it
shall be cut off
from his people."

NO ONE NEEDS DIVINE INSPIRATION TO KNOW THAT FAT IS CAUSED WHEN ONE EATS MORE CALORIES THAN THEY EXPEND IN WORK.

God Commands us to love Him with ALL OUR MIGHT.

If we are FAT, that means that we did not use all our MIGHT in Keeping God's Commandments, so that It became FAT.

Therefore, FAT must be SACRED to God, because it represents Energy that was not used to serve HIM- AS IS HIS RIGHTFUL DUE.

Religious FASTING is therefore SERVICE RENDERED TO GOD.

You would not know this, because YOU do NOT love not serve God, but yourself.

. DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6.

ALL The Commandments
Which I Command thee
this day
shall ye observe to do,
that ye may live,
and multiply,
and go in
and possess the land
which The LORD Sware
unto your fathers.
2. And thou shalt remember
all the Way which The LORD
thy God led thee these forty years
in the wilderness,
to humble thee,
and to prove thee,
to know what was in thine heart,
whether thou wouldest
keep His Commandments,
or no.
3. And He humbled thee,
and suffered thee to hunger,
and fed thee with Manna,
which thou knewest not,
neither did thy fathers know;
that He might
make thee know that

"MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY BREAD ONLY
BUT BY EVERY (WORD) THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD
DOTH MAN LIVE."


4. Thy raiment waxed not old
upon thee,
neither did thy foot swell,
these forty years.
5. Thou shalt also consider
in thine heart,

"THAT, AS A MAN
CHASTENETH HIS SON,
SO THE LORD THY GOD
CHASTENETH THEE."


6. Therefore thou shalt keep
The Commandments of
The LORD thy God,
to walk in His Ways,
and to fear Him.

THE WORD OF GOD IS FOOD FOR THE SOUL: SPIRITUAL FOOD IS REQUIRED TO PERFORM SPIRITUAL WORKS.

. MATTHEW 4:1-4.

THEN was Jesus led
up of The Spirit
into the wilderness
to be tempted of The Devil.
2. And when he had fasted
forty days and forty nights,
he was afterward an hungred.
3. And when The Tempter
came to him,
he said,

"If thou be the Son of God,
command that these stones
be made bread."

4. But he answered and Said,
"It is written,

'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE
BY BREAD ALONE,
BUT BY EVERY WORD
THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF
THE MOUTH OF GOD.' "


DIGESTION OF EARTHLY FOOD REQUIRES SPIRITUAL ENERGY- LIFE ENERGY- FROM OUR LIMITED RESERVE- FASTING FREES UP THAT ENERGY FOR PURELY SPIRITUAL OPERATIONS.

shadeyinka:

Fasting is pure personal discipline for the purpose of dedication to a cause.

YOU HAVE NEVER FASTED BEFORE, SO WHAT COULD YOU POSSIBLY KNOW ABOUT FASTING?

. MATTHEW 6:16-18.

16. "Moreover when ye Fast,
be not, as the Hypocrites,
of a sad countenance:
for they disfigure their faces,
that they may appear
unto men to Fast.
Verily I Say unto you,

'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

17. "But thou, when thou Fastest,
anoint thine head,
and wash thy face;
18. "That thou appear not
unto men to Fast,
but unto thy Father
Which is in Secret:
and thy Father,
Which seeth in Secret,
shall Reward thee openly."

FASTING IS SERVICE TO GOD- THAT IS WHY GOD REWARDS HIS CHILDREN FOR DOING IT PROPERLY.

shadeyinka:

You serve God by
1. Loving others as yourself
2. Winning souls for Christ
3. Using your Spiritual gifts, abilities and talents to build the spiritual life of others

You do not know what you are talking about.

(1) GOD IS SERVED BY CHOOSING LIFE: THAT IS THE FIRST PRIORITY.[/b]

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

THIS ONE COMMANDMENT HAS TO BE OBEYED FIRST, IN ORDER TO MAKE OBEYING THE REST SUSTAINABLE!

..    1st JOHN 5:1-5.

WHOSOEVER believeth that

"JESUS IS THE CHRIST"

is Born of God:
and every one that loveth
Him that Begat
loveth him also
that is Begotten of Him.
2. By this we know
that we love
The Children of God,

"WHEN WE LOVE GOD,
AND KEEP
HIS COMMANDMENTS."


3. For this is
The Love of God,

"THAT WE KEEP
HIS COMMANDMENTS:"


and His Commandments
are not grievous.
4. For whatsoever is
Born of God
Overcometh the World:
and this is The Victory
that Overcometh the World,

"(EVEN) OUR FAITH."

5. Who is he that Overcometh the World,
but he that believeth
that Jesus is
The Son of God?

LOVING NEIGHBOURS IS A RELATIVELY LOW PRIORITY: OUR NEIGHBOURS ARE NOT OUR GOD.

. EXODUS 23:1-9.

"THOU shalt not
raise a False Report:
put not thine hand
with The Wicked
to be an Unrighteous Witness.
2. "Thou shalt not
follow a Multitude
to do Evil;
neither shalt thou
speak in a cause
to Decline after Many
to Wrest (Judgment):
3. "Neither shalt thou
countenance a poor man
in his cause.
4. "If thou meet
thine Enemy's ox
or his ass going astray,
thou shalt surely
bring it back to him again.
5. " If thou see
the ox or the ass
of him that hateth thee
lying under his burden,
and wouldest forbear
to help him,
thou shalt surely
help with him.
6. "Thou shalt not wrest
the judgment of thy poor
in his cause.
7. "Keep thee far
from a false matter;
and the Innocent
and Righteous
Slay thou not:
for I will not
Justify The Wicked.
8. "And thou shalt
take no Gift:
for the Gift
blindeth the Wise,
and perverteth the Words
of The Righteous.
9. "Thou shalt not
Oppress a Stranger:
for ye know
the heart of a Stranger,
seeing ye were Strangers
in the land of Egypt."

. LEVITICUS 19:11-18.

11. "Ye shall not steal,
neither deal falsely,
neither lie one to another.
12. "And ye shall not swear
by My Name falsely,
neither shalt thou profane
The Name of thy God:
I am The LORD.
13. "Thou shalt not
defraud thy Neighbour,
neither rob him:
the wages of
him that is hired
shall not abide with thee
all night until the morning.
14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I am The LORD.
15. "Ye shall do
no unrighteousness
in Judgment:
thou shalt not
respect the person
of the Poor,
nor honor the person
of the Mighty:
but in righteousness shalt thou
Judge thy Neighbour.
16. "Thou shalt not go up and down
as a Talebearer among thy people:
neither shalt thou stand against
the blood of thy Neighbour;
I am The LORD.
17. "Thou shalt not
hate thy Brother in thine heart:
thou shalt in any wise
Rebuke thy Neighbour,
and not suffer Sin upon him.
18. "Thou shalt not avenge,
nor bear any grudge against
the Children of thy People,
but thou shalt love
thy Neighbour as thyself:
I am the LORD."

IF YOU BREAK ANY OF THOSE COMMANDMENTS, YOU ARE NOT LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOUR.

(2) ANYBODY REFERING TO LORD YESHUA AS "CHRIST" IS ALWAYS A DECEIVER.

. MATTHEW 16:20.

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

. MATTHEW 24:1-5.

AND Jesus went out,
and departed from the Temple:
and his Disciples came to him
for to shew him the Buildings
of The Temple.
2. And Jesus Said unto them,

"See ye not all these things?
Verily I Say unto you,

'THERE SHALL NOT
BE LEFT HERE
ONE STONE UPON ANOTHER
THAT SHALL NOT BE
THROWN DOWN.'


3. And as he sat upon
the mount of Olives,
the Disciples came
unto him privately,
saying,

"Tell us,
when shall these things be?
And what shall be
The Sign of thy Coming,
and of The End of the World?"

4. And Jesus answered
and Said unto them,

"Take heed
that no man deceive you.
5. "For many shall come
in my Name,
saying, I am Christ;
and shall deceive many."

HYPOCRITES GIVE EXCUSES- THEY ARE ALL ONLY DECEPTION.

They do not really believe that Lord Yeshua is CHRIST- or they would not disobey his one Commandment forbidding Christians to say something.

(3) THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS "SPIRITUAL GIFTS:" NO ONE CAN GIVE YOU A "SPIRITUAL GIFT;" THE VERY CONCEPT IS A DECEPTION.

All Spiritual Powers are EARNED by WORKS- AND ARE OUR BIRTHRIGHT.

God FORBADE His People to take GIFTS. Why would HE give Gifts?

We are told to believe that God has an Ability to bestow Powers on people who need them or deserve them- but DOESN'T! We are told to believe that God gives Spiritual Powers to people who have not earned them.

How is that not "messed-up?"

shadeyinka:

There exist no other service outside this.

SO... YOU BELIEVE THAT WORSHIP, PRAISE, AND EXECUTING JUDGMENTS, OBEYING STATUTES AND PRECEPTS ARE NOT SERVICE OF GOD?

What "DEN OF INIQUITY," jokingly called a "CHURCH," taught you all this rubbish? Which perverted Clergymen taught you this blasphemous garbage?
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Nobody: 7:51pm On Jan 28, 2020
huxley:
Can one serve god too much?  Can one pray too much?  Can one pay too much tithes?

If god notices that one is serving him too much would he (god) intervene and ask the worshipper to take a break?  Is there some kind of limit beyond which anything done to serve god becomes excessive and dangerous?  Would god warn you when you have reached and exceeded that limit?

Take the case of people who have damaged their health or even died fasting in a bid to serve god - did they overdo it?  Or was their death a just reward for a prayerful servant of god?

That is the result of misinformation!

First of all God did not require people to starve themselves for any reason, the Creator of countless fruits and plants gains NOTHING when his creatures starve.
It was faithful servants of God in ancient times that goes mourning whenever they notice that their friendship with God is threatened by what they mistakenly did or what others around them are doing.
But later crooked Israelites turned fasting into an ticket to continue doing what is wrong, so that after they willfully committed crimes, they'll just go into hypocritical fasting thinking God must accept it anyway.

So God sent his prophet to tell them that their fasting has become worthless before him, God made it clear to them that instead of willfully doing the wrong thing and covering it with their useless fasting, why not leave the fasting and do the right thing?

For clearer understanding of God's word, imagine all those going to Church and Mosque today take righteousness as priority,

No more lying to cover for evildoers.
No more Support for fornicators and adulterers.
No embezzlement in public offices.
No bribery to overturn judgment.
No more ignoring the needy in the society.
No more oppression.
No more nursing grudge and so on in our society.

How will our society be like?
Will people cry before God out of broken hearts?

Of course crooked religionists will damn all that, they'll just go ahead to do what is evil due to their hearts desire and later their hypocritical fasting! Isaiah 58:1-10

Hence God's son said "if truthfully you feel like fasting, don't blow a trumpet before you or dress like a mourner for a showoff" Matthew 6:16

Trust me nobody will fast for any reason again if we're all righteously doing the needful!

But those crooked religious leaders know what people want so they'll tell them "go on hunger strike (fasting) for days" because both the Pastor and the follower knew how evil they've been in their dealings with others! smiley
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by Emusan(m): 10:24pm On Jan 28, 2020
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD."

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

. DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9.

4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God
is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love
The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee this day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them
diligently unto thy children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest
in thine house,
and when thou walkest
by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind Them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write Them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

. DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16.

13. Thou shalt not
have in thy bag
divers weights,
a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not
have in thine house
divers measures,
a great and a small.
15. (But) thou shalt have
a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure
shalt thou have:
that thy days
may be lengthened
in the land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
(and) all that do unrighteously,
(are) an abomination
unto The LORD thy God.

. DEUTERONOMY 27:18.

18. "Cursed be he
that maketh the blind
to wander out of the way."

And all the people shall say,

"AMEN."

.   DEUTERONOMY 27:26.

26. Cursed be he
that confirmeth not all
The Words of This Law
to do them.

And all the people shall say,

"AMEN."

. MATTHEW 10:16-20.

16. "Behold, I send you forth
as sheep in the midst
of wolves:
be ye therefore
wise as serpents,
and harmless as doves.
17. "But Beware of Men:
for they will deliver you up
to the Councils,
and they will scourge you
in their Synagogues;
18. "And ye shall be brought
before governors and kings
for my sake,
for a Testimony against them
and the Gentiles.
19. "But when they
deliver you up,
take no thought
how or what ye shall speak:
for it shall be given you
in that same hour
what ye shall speak.
20. "For it is not ye that speak,
but The Spirit of your Father
Which Speaketh in you."

. JOHN 3:34-36.

34. "For he whom God hath sent
speaketh The Words of God:
for God giveth not the Spirit
by measure unto him.
35. "The Father loveth The Son,
and hath given All Things
into his hand.
36. "He that believeth on
The Son
hath Everlasting Life:
and he that believeth not
The Son
shall not see Life;
but The Wrath of God
abideth on him."

WE KNOW THE ENEMIES OF GOD, OF THE CHURCH, OF OURSELVES, AND OF HUMANITY MOST EASILY- WHEN THEY DO NOT GIVE ANY SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES TO PROVE THEIR POINTS.

How can you speak God's Word, when God didn't send you?



WHAT CHURCH TAUGHT YOU THAT BLASPHEMOUS BULLSHIT?

. LEVITICUS 7:22-25.

22. And The LORD
Spake unto Moses,
Saying,

23. "Speak unto
the Children of Israel,
saying,

'YE SHALL EAT
NO MANNER OF FAT,
OF OX, OR OF SHEEP,
OR OF GOAT.'


24. "And the Fat of the Beast
that dieth of itself,
and the Fat of that
which is torn with Beasts,
may be used in any other use:
but ye shall in no wise
eat of it.
25. "For whosoever eateth
the Fat of the Beast,
of which men
offer an Offering
made by Fire
unto The LORD,
even the soul
that eateth it
shall be cut off
from his people."

NO ONE NEEDS DIVINE INSPIRATION TO KNOW THAT FAT IS CAUSED WHEN ONE EATS MORE CALORIES THAN THEY EXPEND IN WORK.

God Commands us to love Him with ALL OUR MIGHT.

If we are FAT, that means that we did not use all our MIGHT in Keeping God's Commandments, so that It became FAT.

Therefore, FAT must be SACRED to God, because it represents Energy that was not used to serve HIM- AS IS HIS RIGHTFUL DUE.

Religious FASTING is therefore SERVICE RENDERED TO GOD.

You would not know this, because YOU do NOT love not serve God, but yourself.

. DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6.

ALL The Commandments
Which I Command thee
this day
shall ye observe to do,
that ye may live,
and multiply,
and go in
and possess the land
which The LORD Sware
unto your fathers.
2. And thou shalt remember
all the Way which The LORD
thy God led thee these forty years
in the wilderness,
to humble thee,
and to prove thee,
to know what was in thine heart,
whether thou wouldest
keep His Commandments,
or no.
3. And He humbled thee,
and suffered thee to hunger,
and fed thee with Manna,
which thou knewest not,
neither did thy fathers know;
that He might
make thee know that

"MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY BREAD ONLY
BUT BY EVERY (WORD) THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD
DOTH MAN LIVE."


4. Thy raiment waxed not old
upon thee,
neither did thy foot swell,
these forty years.
5. Thou shalt also consider
in thine heart,

"THAT, AS A MAN
CHASTENETH HIS SON,
SO THE LORD THY GOD
CHASTENETH THEE."


6. Therefore thou shalt keep
The Commandments of
The LORD thy God,
to walk in His Ways,
and to fear Him.

THE WORD OF GOD IS FOOD FOR THE SOUL: SPIRITUAL FOOD IS REQUIRED TO PERFORM SPIRITUAL WORKS.

. MATTHEW 4:1-4.

THEN was Jesus led
up of The Spirit
into the wilderness
to be tempted of The Devil.
2. And when he had fasted
forty days and forty nights,
he was afterward an hungred.
3. And when The Tempter
came to him,
he said,

"If thou be the Son of God,
command that these stones
be made bread."

4. But he answered and Said,
"It is written,

'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE
BY BREAD ALONE,
BUT BY EVERY WORD
THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF
THE MOUTH OF GOD.' "


DIGESTION OF EARTHLY FOOD REQUIRES SPIRITUAL ENERGY- LIFE ENERGY- FROM OUR LIMITED RESERVE- FASTING FREES UP THAT ENERGY FOR PURELY SPIRITUAL OPERATIONS.



YOU HAVE NEVER FASTED BEFORE, SO WHAT COULD YOU POSSIBLY KNOW ABOUT FASTING?

. MATTHEW 6:16-18.

16. "Moreover when ye Fast,
be not, as the Hypocrites,
of a sad countenance:
for they disfigure their faces,
that they may appear
unto men to Fast.
Verily I Say unto you,

'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

17. "But thou, when thou Fastest,
anoint thine head,
and wash thy face;
18. "That thou appear not
unto men to Fast,
but unto thy Father
Which is in Secret:
and thy Father,
Which seeth in Secret,
shall Reward thee openly."

FASTING IS SERVICE TO GOD- THAT IS WHY GOD REWARDS HIS CHILDREN FOR DOING IT PROPERLY.



You do not know what you are talking about.

(1) GOD IS SERVED BY CHOOSING LIFE: THAT IS THE FIRST PRIORITY.[/b]

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

THIS ONE COMMANDMENT HAS TO BE OBEYED FIRST, IN ORDER TO MAKE OBEYING THE REST SUSTAINABLE!

..    1st JOHN 5:1-5.

WHOSOEVER believeth that

"JESUS IS THE CHRIST"

is Born of God:
and every one that loveth
Him that Begat
loveth him also
that is Begotten of Him.
2. By this we know
that we love
The Children of God,

"WHEN WE LOVE GOD,
AND KEEP
HIS COMMANDMENTS."


3. For this is
The Love of God,

"THAT WE KEEP
HIS COMMANDMENTS:"


and His Commandments
are not grievous.
4. For whatsoever is
Born of God
Overcometh the World:
and this is The Victory
that Overcometh the World,

"(EVEN) OUR FAITH."

5. Who is he that Overcometh the World,
but he that believeth
that Jesus is
The Son of God?

LOVING NEIGHBOURS IS A RELATIVELY LOW PRIORITY: OUR NEIGHBOURS ARE NOT OUR GOD.

. EXODUS 23:1-9.

"THOU shalt not
raise a False Report:
put not thine hand
with The Wicked
to be an Unrighteous Witness.
2. "Thou shalt not
follow a Multitude
to do Evil;
neither shalt thou
speak in a cause
to Decline after Many
to Wrest (Judgment):
3. "Neither shalt thou
countenance a poor man
in his cause.
4. "If thou meet
thine Enemy's ox
or his ass going astray,
thou shalt surely
bring it back to him again.
5. " If thou see
the ox or the ass
of him that hateth thee
lying under his burden,
and wouldest forbear
to help him,
thou shalt surely
help with him.
6. "Thou shalt not wrest
the judgment of thy poor
in his cause.
7. "Keep thee far
from a false matter;
and the Innocent
and Righteous
Slay thou not:
for I will not
Justify The Wicked.
8. "And thou shalt
take no Gift:
for the Gift
blindeth the Wise,
and perverteth the Words
of The Righteous.
9. "Thou shalt not
Oppress a Stranger:
for ye know
the heart of a Stranger,
seeing ye were Strangers
in the land of Egypt."

. LEVITICUS 19:11-18.

11. "Ye shall not steal,
neither deal falsely,
neither lie one to another.
12. "And ye shall not swear
by My Name falsely,
neither shalt thou profane
The Name of thy God:
I am The LORD.
13. "Thou shalt not
defraud thy Neighbour,
neither rob him:
the wages of
him that is hired
shall not abide with thee
all night until the morning.
14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I am The LORD.
15. "Ye shall do
no unrighteousness
in Judgment:
thou shalt not
respect the person
of the Poor,
nor honor the person
of the Mighty:
but in righteousness shalt thou
Judge thy Neighbour.
16. "Thou shalt not go up and down
as a Talebearer among thy people:
neither shalt thou stand against
the blood of thy Neighbour;
I am The LORD.
17. "Thou shalt not
hate thy Brother in thine heart:
thou shalt in any wise
Rebuke thy Neighbour,
and not suffer Sin upon him.
18. "Thou shalt not avenge,
nor bear any grudge against
the Children of thy People,
but thou shalt love
thy Neighbour as thyself:
I am the LORD."

IF YOU BREAK ANY OF THOSE COMMANDMENTS, YOU ARE NOT LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOUR.

(2) ANYBODY REFERING TO LORD YESHUA AS "CHRIST" IS ALWAYS A DECEIVER.

. MATTHEW 16:20.

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

. MATTHEW 24:1-5.

AND Jesus went out,
and departed from the Temple:
and his Disciples came to him
for to shew him the Buildings
of The Temple.
2. And Jesus Said unto them,

"See ye not all these things?
Verily I Say unto you,

'THERE SHALL NOT
BE LEFT HERE
ONE STONE UPON ANOTHER
THAT SHALL NOT BE
THROWN DOWN.'


3. And as he sat upon
the mount of Olives,
the Disciples came
unto him privately,
saying,

"Tell us,
when shall these things be?
And what shall be
The Sign of thy Coming,
and of The End of the World?"

4. And Jesus answered
and Said unto them,

"Take heed
that no man deceive you.
5. "For many shall come
in my Name,
saying, I am Christ;
and shall deceive many."

HYPOCRITES GIVE EXCUSES- THEY ARE ALL ONLY DECEPTION.

They do not really believe that Lord Yeshua is CHRIST- or they would not disobey his one Commandment forbidding Christians to say something.

(3) THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS "SPIRITUAL GIFTS:" NO ONE CAN GIVE YOU A "SPIRITUAL GIFT;" THE VERY CONCEPT IS A DECEPTION.

All Spiritual Powers are EARNED by WORKS- AND ARE OUR BIRTHRIGHT.

God FORBADE His People to take GIFTS. Why would HE give Gifts?

We are told to believe that God has an Ability to bestow Powers on people who need them or deserve them- but DOESN'T! We are told to believe that God gives Spiritual Powers to people who have not earned them.

How is that not "messed-up?"



SO... YOU BELIEVE THAT WORSHIP, PRAISE, AND EXECUTING JUDGMENTS, OBEYING STATUTES AND PRECEPTS ARE NOT SERVICE OF GOD?

What "DEN OF INIQUITY," jokingly called a "CHURCH," taught you all this rubbish? Which perverted Clergymen taught you this blasphemous garbage?

What is with you and this your copy and paste

Don't you have mind of your own....
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by oaroloye(m): 10:06am On Jan 29, 2020
MISHIGAS!


Emusan:


What is with you and this your copy and paste

Don't you have mind of your own....

DO YOU HAVE A READING DISABILITY, A COGNITIVE DISORDER, OR ARE YOU JUST SOME IGNORANT RUDE BRAT, POSSESSED BY MULTIPLE DEVILS?[/b]

This is a Forum on RELIGION.

People are invited to share their belief in Higher Powers, here.

I do not understand why people who have NO Knowledge about Higher Powers, nor RESPECT for Higher Powers, nor Interest in learning about Higher Powers, nor even Belief that Higher Powers exist, are tolerated here

It does not make any sense whatsoever.

The entire Bible can be summarized in this one Doctrine:

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


No other Bible Teacher, dead or alive, has known what I know.

I should rightly get The NOBEL PRIZE for my Breakthrough.

Instead, I get nothing but cynicism, scoffing, and scorn.

For delivering the most important Doctrine since Lord Yeshua walked the Earth.

If you disagree, can you point to ANY Teaching that is better and more important than mine?

While you are at it, make sure to explain why you yourself are not following that Teaching.

No one forced you to read my Post. I always give complete explanations from the Religion of my God, that is the optimum Solution to whatever Problem is posed. That is how my Religion works.

I Quote each Clause of people's Posts, and address each Issue they present.

How dare you pretend that Copying and Pasting is itself somehow bad. Why do you then do the sane thing, showing yourself to be too lacking in intelligence to comment on anything I said!?

What are you even doing here, if you have no Religious Training of your own?

Where are the fruits of your own mind, that address the issue at all, let alone better than mine.

All your mind could produce was rudeness against your senior, and nothing that is actually helpful to anyone.

Your parents should be ashamed.

Just for what you have said here, the loss of your Soul is a given. You have no respect for Higher Powers, and your Fate will be accordingly, as you so richly deserve.
Re: Serving God By Fasting - Can It Be Dangerous? by leodegreat: 10:51am On Jan 29, 2020
ON FASTING
The truth remains evident, we can't serve God enough for our dependency lie in Him. He doesn't stand to gain something if we serve or choose not to. Our service to God is for our own benefits. Thus He blesses us with freewill to always make a free choice. We could decide not to service Him and Perish. He says, l live you between good and evil, life and death, yet He encourages us to choose life (Cf. Deut. 30:15-19). So you can't serve God enough.
As regards fasting, people tend to misunderstand what fasting is all about. Fasting goes with abstinence. You deprive yourself food in order to mortify your senses, for better service to God. People often miss the mark when it comes to fasting. Nothing says you must fast from food, nothing says you must fast when you are not strong. and nothing says you must fast until you cause yourself more harm than good.
You could abstain from drink, if you drink often, you could abstain from sex, you could choose to wear little or no make up if you so much love make up. In this way, you mortify yourself, you cease to do or have what you love most for the sake of greater good. You don't need to fast all day long, causing harm to yourself.
I really love Catholic teachinge on fasting, it states: a. You can only fast when you are 7 and above, 7 is often called age of reasoning, then one can make judgement about certain things. b. Fasting is not for the sick and nursing mothers. c. Instead of fasting to cause yourself harm, perhaps develop ulcer, abstain from certain things you love most. d. Those who are 65 years and above are not obliged to fast. e. When you fast and abstain from certain things, do charity. That is, if you used to drink 3 bottles of beer a day and you are abstaining from beer, give the money out to the needy, not keeping it to drink more bottles when you break your fast, and if you are fasting from food, no keep your morning food and add the afternoon food and consume it at the break of your fasting, eat moderately.
Fasting is rather a way of mortification, which enables one seek mercy of God, while one hopes for more breakthroughs from God. It is not a punishment, and it is not to be done frowning. After all, no one is forcing you to fast. Even those pastors that often tell you fast and fast, they don't really do much of fast as they proposed.
Be wise.
LEOdeGreat.

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