We are gradually seeing a 7 month strike by the university lecturers,. Nigerian students are always in a state of dilemma about their education some rent houses off camp and with this lingering strike their rents have probably expired as a Nigerian student you can't even calculate when you will graduate because of the never ending battle btw Assu and fg
As a Nation we have not even gone through the covid-19 pandemic and we are also being faced with the three headed monster called ASUU strike what's your take on this issue is the federal government the one at fault for being insensitive to their plight and to that of students or ASUU are just being over demanding and ridiculous with their demands



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Who will "scrap" ASUU?
This is democracy o, even military tried it and they failed

sinkhole:
Who will "scrap" ASUU?
This is democracy o, even military tried it and they failed

Who talk u ASUU cannot be scrap? Na FG just dey leave them na make body they catch them, forget democracy don't u know u can bend the law? If govt what to really punish u enh, they can bend the law, FG just dey leave ASUU na make

Tony142:




Who talk u ASUU cannot be scrap? Na FG just dey leave them na make body they catch them, forget democracy don't u know u can bend the law? If govt what to really punish u enh, they can bend the law, FG just dey leave ASUU na make

���� may God help students oh

Tony142:




Who talk u ASUU cannot be scrap? Na FG just dey leave them na make body they catch them, forget democracy don't u know u can bend the law? If govt what to really punish u enh, they can bend the law, FG just dey leave ASUU na make

OK.
But bending the law means government impunity?
Actually by trying to force IPPIS on Universities, they have started "bending" the law!

sinkhole:
OK.
But bending the law means government impunity?
Actually by trying to force IPPIS on Universities, they have started "bending" the law!

Lol, u are Right, but ASUU self too corrupt, how can only one lecturer be receiving up to 4 people salary?

Jerryjasper:
���� may God help students oh

Amen

sinkhole:
OK.
But bending the law means government impunity?
Actually by trying to force IPPIS on Universities, they have started "bending" the law!

yes you are very right sir but the thing is who is really to be blamed for the strike

Tony142:




Lol, u are Right, but ASUU self too corrupt, how can only one lecturer be receiving up to 4 people salary?

that is not possible! It is outright lie from the ministry of Baba Lai or may be you can explain?

Jerryjasper:
yes you are very right sir but the thing is who is really to be blamed for the strike

FG is to be blamed!
My reasons:
1). Why sign an agreement when you know you will never honour it?
Remember, this same attitude nearly cost the country billions of dollars and they are still trying to sort it out!

2). Why can't you study all the legal implications of your proposed action before taking the action?

Universities have their law which was signed by the FG herself and now the FG is trying to flout (or bend) that very same law by introducing IPPIS.

sinkhole:

FG is to be blamed!
My reasons:
1). Why reach an agreement when you know you will never honour it?
Remember, this same attitude nearly cost the country billions of dollars and they are still trying to sort it out!

2). Why can't you study all the legal implications of your proposed action before taking the action?

Universities have their law which was signed by the FG herself and now the FG is trying to flout (or bend) that very same law by introducing IPPIS.

so you saying that the government is insensitive or maybe they don't give a damn about our education system

Jerryjasper:
so you saying that the government is insensitive or maybe they don't give a damn about our education system

I really do not know what the government is thinking or their strategy in education sector, but very clearly, the future of Nigeria, as far as University education is concerned is bleak! Forget about all those things you hear about UI, OAU, ABU, etc, there is no Nigerian University that can compete with Universities in South Africa!
Nigerian University lecturers do not have laboratory to do research (I am not talking about teaching laboratories!), the laboratories of Nigerian lecturers are on their laptops and most of them can not even buy quality laptops.
Nigerian Universities are so bad that students from neighbouring countries do not even want to come and learn in Nigeria and hence we loose huge amount of revenue that could have been coming in through education!

Scrap ASUU using what? The constitution? . Now they could lay them off I think but what next from there . How do we replace them if possible . The country is already low on lecturing profs and academics and then you sack the limited ones we have?

Which kind question is this, op, don't you know that fg should carry the blame? It is their fault....blame them till eternity

SirWarlock:
Scrap ASUU using what? The constitution? . Now they could lay them off I think but what next from there . How do we replace them if possible . The country is already low on lecturing profs and academics and then you sack the limited ones we have?

Don't mind him, he should go and ask IBB despite the fact that he was a military Head of state, gave notice, banned ASUU, have them eviction order.....last, last, he still bowed to them

The enemy has always been FGN!
They don't care about our education.

ASUU went on strike before this IPPIS issue became an issue.
If FG is sincere, during this lockdown would have been a PERFECT time to address all their issues. Instead, they all relaxed. Afterall their children are not schooling in public universites.They also know how to deceive gullible nigerians (our poor analytical skill/education is their advantage). Reason why they won't want to improve our educational sector. So that anything they say will be swallowed hook,line and sinker!!! Which is also why i pity nigerians,especially students that are siding with FGN

ASUU strike has always been the same thing over the years. MoU/MoA signed by the same FG since 2009 amended in 2013,2017,2019.
Mind you, before ASUU would embark on strike, they always send letters to FG. Most times, FG always ignore. Until ASUU would have no other option than to go on strike. Starting with a WARNING STRIKE.

ASUU talks about revitalization of universites. A 1.1 trillion naira is needed to revamp our universites to be on par with africa first, before the world at large. Since this money cannot be disbursed at once, FG said the money would be paid by installment (200billion each year). They never honour this agreement till today.

ASUU talked about their earned allowances that has run into billions due to accumulation.
FG is still turning them.

ASUU talked about proliferation of universites while the existing ones are barely surviving.
How can FG still be building universites without employing capable hands and these lecturers from existing ones still go there to help out with little or no pay.

All these things were going on before IPPIS entered the picture. FG left every other issue and focused on IPPIS. Thereby making nigerians think ASUU went on strike because of IPPIS.
If IPPIS is so sweet let them add NASS and other top public office(NNPC,FIRS,CBN e.t.c.) including the president there. If it is so sweet why did NASU and SSANU that happily embraced it now turn back to reject it

ASUU are not perfect but I'm very sure the university has been improving over the years(which is still a far cry from what it should be) because of them.

IPPIS as it is will not work in the university system. It infringe in their right to be autonomous.
IPPIS didn't capture lecturers that go for Adjuncts, conferences, sabbatical e.t.c. which are all essential for sharing knowledge (no university works in isolation) and promotion.
Why is FG now making it all about IPPIS all of a sudden

FGN should revamp our universites if not for ASUU that fought for TETFUND to be created.
I wonder if universites would have seats, equipments, lecture theaters and other necessities at all.

Shame on anyone that feels ASUU is the enemy. They are not perfect but they are not the enemy.

FGN is the enemy!
FGN is the enemy!

sinkhole:
I really do not know what the government is thinking or their strategy in education sector, but very clearly, the future of Nigeria, as far as University education is concerned is bleak! Forget about all those things you hear about UI, OAU, ABU, etc, there is no Nigerian University that can compete with Universities in South Africa!
Nigerian University lecturers do not have laboratory to do research (I am not talking about teaching laboratories!), the laboratories of Nigerian lecturers are on their laptops and most of them can not even buy quality laptops.
Nigerian Universities are so bad that students from neighbouring countries do not even want to come and learn in Nigeria and hence we loose huge amount of revenue that could have been coming in through education!

so much sense in what you are saying sir

samuelpeters:
The enemy has always been FGN!
They don't care about our education.

ASUU went on strike before this IPPIS issue became an issue.
If FG is sincere, during this lockdown would have been a PERFECT time to address all their issues. Instead, they all relaxed. Afterall their children are not schooling in public universites.They also know how to deceive gullible nigerians (our poor analytical skill/education is their advantage). Reason why they won't want to improve our educational sector. So that anything they say will be swallowed hook,line and sinker!!! Which is also why i pity nigerians,especially students that are siding with FGN

ASUU strike has always been the same thing over the years. MoU/MoA signed by the same FG since 2009 amended in 2013,2017,2019.
Mind you, before ASUU would embark on strike, they always send letters to FG. Most times, FG always ignore. Until ASUU would have no other option than to go on strike. Starting with a WARNING STRIKE.

ASUU talks about revitalization of universites. A 1.1 trillion naira is needed to revamp our universites to be on par with africa first, before the world at large. Since this money cannot be disbursed at once, FG said the money would be paid by installment (200billion each year). They never honour this agreement till today.

ASUU talked about their earned allowances that has run into billions due to accumulation.
FG is still turning them.

ASUU talked about proliferation of universites while the existing ones are barely surviving.
How can FG still be building universites without employing capable hands and these lecturers from existing ones still go there to help out with little or no pay.

All these things were going on before IPPIS entered the picture. FG left every other issue and focused on IPPIS. Thereby making nigerians think ASUU went on strike because of IPPIS.
If IPPIS is so sweet let them add NASS and other top public office(NNPC,FIRS,CBN e.t.c.) including the president there. If it is so sweet why did NASU and SSANU that happily embraced it now turn back to reject it

ASUU are not perfect but I'm very sure the university has been improving over the years(which is still a far cry from what it should be) because of them.

IPPIS as it is will not work in the university system. It infringe in their right to be autonomous.
IPPIS didn't capture lecturers that go for Adjuncts, conferences, sabbatical e.t.c. which are all essential for sharing knowledge (no university works in isolation) and promotion.
Why is FG now making it all about IPPIS all of a sudden

FGN should revamp our universites if not for ASUU that fought for TETFUND to be created.
I wonder if universites would have seats, equipments, lecture theaters and other necessities at all.

Shame on anyone that feels ASUU is the enemy. They are not perfect but they are not the enemy.

FGN is the enemy!
FGN is the enemy!

but with the kind of presidency in place Kai this thing is getting out of hand oh

Jerryjasper:
but with the kind of presidency in place Kai this thing is getting out of hand oh

Of course its getting out of hand.
Let them settle their issues this year so that next year would be refreshing for everyone including students. This 2020 has been something else.

sinkhole:
that is not possible! It is outright lie from the ministry of Baba Lai or may be you can explain?

according to the law, Lecturer is only allow to teach in one university full time and also teach in another university as a visiting lecturer


In your 1st university as aa lecturer u will receive 100% of your salary, while in your 2nd university u will receive 30% of your 1st university salary, so the maximum amount u can receive is 130% all together, also the maximum university u can teach is 2, but guess what? Instead of them to teach in only 2 university some of them will be teaching 4 university and also reacieving the salary of 4 university, is that not corruption?


That why FG want IPPIS to stop those corruption

Tony142:




according to the law, Lecturer is only allow to teach in one university full time and also teach in another university as a visiting lecturer


In your 1st university as aa lecturer u will receive 100% of your salary, while in your 2nd university u will receive 30% of your 1st university salary, so the maximum amount u can receive is 130% all together, also the maximum university u can teach is 2, but guess what? Instead of them to teach in only 2 university some of them will be teaching 4 university and also reacieving the salary of 4 university, is that not corruption?


That why FG want IPPIS to stop those corruption

What you said is true to an extent.
Is it not the same FG that is building universites up and down like its a competition.
Guess what, they clearly do not employ full time/experieced lecturers but would rather want these lecturers to continue visiting or employ them on contract basis.

Most times, We also forget that, if we talk about corruption in the university system then you should be talking about the university management and governing council which are all appointed by the same FG.

Tony142:




according to the law, Lecturer is only allow to teach in one university full time and also teach in another university as a visiting lecturer


In your 1st university as aa lecturer u will receive 100% of your salary, while in your 2nd university u will receive 30% of your 1st university salary, so the maximum amount u can receive is 130% all together, also the maximum university u can teach is 2, but guess what? Instead of them to teach in only 2 university some of them will be teaching 4 university and also reacieving the salary of 4 university, is that not corruption?


That why FG want IPPIS to stop those corruption

I like your analysis, but according to your analysis, a lecturer will have to visit at least nine(9) Universities plus his/her primary University in order to earn salary of four lecturers. I don't think that is possible!

Again, even though I do not agree with lecturers overstretching themselves on too much visiting, I do not think IPPIS could stop that as the lecturers will simply opt for visiting private Universities and other state Universities that are not on IPPIS.

Take note that visiting position is only for Senior lecturers and above and most Universities prefer Professors to visit. So, if you're employed today as an Assistant Lecturer then you can not start thinking about visiting until you have spent about nine years in service!

Just as @samuelpeters said above, part of what ASUU is asking for is that government should stop indiscriminate establishment of Universities by politicians. For example, Kogi governmemt is known for owing University lecturers' salaries but recently they are proposing establishing another University! Definitely they are not going to employ enough hands, especially at the Professorial cadre, they are going to prefer paying 30% salary for visiting lecturers than paying full salary to permanent Professor!

sinkhole:
I like your analysis, but according to your analysis, a lecturer will have to visit at least nine(9) Universities plus his/her primary University in order to earn salary of four lecturers. I don't think that is possible!

Again, even though I do not agree with lecturers overstretching themselves on too much visiting, I do not think IPPIS could stop that as the lecturers will simply opt for visiting private Universities and other state Universities that are not on IPPIS.

Take note that visiting position is only for Senior lecturers and above and most Universities prefer Professors to visit. So, if you're employed today as an Assistant Lecturer then you can not start thinking about visiting until you have spent about nine years in service!

Just as @samuelpeters said above, part of what ASUU is asking for is that government should stop indiscriminate establishment of Universities by politicians. For example, Kogi governmemt is known for owing University lecturers' salaries but recently they are proposing establishing another University! Definitely they are not going to employ enough hands, especially at the Professorial cadre, they are going to prefer paying 30% salary for visiting lecturers than paying full salary to permanent Professor!

Lol, as for as lecturer collecting 4 people salary, I know this was a mistake on my analysis, but I just decided to leave it that way because of laziness



My problem is that wating concern state university and strike? How can the state be paying u and u will still follow assuu dey go on strike, abi na FG dey pay state lecturer?


Nigeria problem is bigger than buhari, we need like 4 president, so that them go they run shift, one will work in the morning, another one in BT he afternoon, and the remaining 2 in the evening and night respectively

samuelpeters:

Of course its getting out of hand.
Let them settle their issues this year so that next year would be refreshing for everyone including students. This 2020 has been something else.

I like your analysis above but with the way FG and ASUU negotiations are going do you think they can get to a common ground this year?

Tony142:





Lol, as for as lecturer collecting 4 people salary, I know this was a mistake on my analysis, but I just decided to leave it that way because of laziness



My problem is that wating concern state university and strike? How can the state be paying u and u will still follow assuu dey go on strike, abi na FG dey pay state lecturer?


Nigeria problem is bigger than buhari, we need like 4 president, so that them go they run shift, one will work in the morning, another one in BT he afternoon, and the remaining 2 in the evening and night respectively

You may actually not be far from the truth in your analysis:
The visiting payment is caped at around #100k, if you're a Prof., then you will be collecting salary of about #450k per month, therefore the visiting is about 22% of your full salary! Senior and Reader percentages will be higher than that.

The State ASUUs are just doing solidarity strike, because whatever the Federal ASUU fights for and eventually get will still be demanded by the State ASUUs from their respective States. If ASUU Federal successfully repel IPPIS then there is no way States will consider bringing their Universities under IPPIS in the future.

sinkhole:
You may actually not be far from the truth in your analysis:
The visiting payment is caped at around #100k, if you're a Prof., then you will be collecting salary of about #450k per month, therefore the visiting is about 22% of your full salary! Senior and Reader percentages will be higher than that.

The State ASUUs are just doing solidarity strike, because whatever the Federal ASUU fights for and eventually get will still be demanded by the State ASUUs from their respective States. If ASUU Federal successfully repel IPPIS then there is no way States will consider bringing their Universities under IPPIS in the future.

. So what is the issue on uctas that ASUU is talking about na

Jerryjasper:
. So what is the issue on uctas that ASUU is talking about na

there is no issue with UTAS.
IPPIS is owned by some people and government gets it on contract and commission basis with the promise that it will curb corruption!
Because the introduction of IPPIS will infringe on the autonomy of the Universities, when ASUU rejected IPPIS they offered to provide an alternative and government gave them go ahead to do so.
Now, ASUU committed millions of Naira and succeeded in making UTAS and then they are offering it to the government FREE OF CHARGE! Imagine that, at no cost at all to the government, but the government is dragging feet, actually for obvious reasons: in Nigeria we all know that whoever gives you a contract always get a kickback! UTAS will bring absolutely no fraudulent revenue for the individuals in government but IPPIS will do

Jerryjasper:
so much sense in what you are saying sir

..
Are u mad?!.
Stop spamming this thread.

The op is a fool, scrap ASUU? nah Ur ass dem go scrap

Tony142:




Lol, u are Right, but ASUU self too corrupt, how can only one lecturer be receiving up to 4 people salary?

How can one senator be Collecting more 4000 people salary in a month.