Beaf is quite idle. He has got nothing to do with his time. Am sure the pay from his OGA Joe is still keeping him going. why are you trying to flog a dead horse? this is no issue as far as Nigeria is concerned. people are not bothered it ok. If you are, you can go ahead and keep barking. Go and ask the common man on the street if OIC is one of their problems. Face Better issues ok. you only bring up issues that will reveal how wrong you judge and evaluate issues, Sorry but its BB all the way

Beaf will never get tire defaming B B

anyone having issues with sharia and OIC should go watch this clip

http://www.?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dacd4f_miAvA%26playnext%3D1%26list%3DPL4CC52153641216A8&h=a868f

Religion sentiments will get us nowhere

Lightweight rubbish.

Beaf, go and spend your time helping your Oga pack his load, because come April 2011 he will be vacating Aso rock, and for you no more Awoof money. You will need to go and find a proper Job, like the rest of us

monkeyleg:

Lightweight rubbish.

Beaf, go and spend your time helping your Oga pack his load, because come April 2011 he will be vacating Aso rock, and for you no more Awoof money. You will need to go and find a proper Job, like the rest of us

This monkeyleg get human brain! LOL

There are unconfirmed reports that G.E.J has hired Associated Movers Ltd to move his personal belongings from Aso-Rock should in case,
U understand.

seunlayi:

Religion sentiments will get us nowhere

It will, as a matter of fact, get us somewhere; whether it is where we want to be as a nation is something Team GEJ will do well to ponder on.

The rate at which they're desperately trying to bring religious sentiments where none clearly exists is becoming worrisome.

Dictator Buhari/Fake pastor bakare no vacancy in Aso Rock.Who one die make him die,we go take una body go police station because una die wrongfully

GEJ ALL THE WAY

and who must now be recognized as kith and kin to a Nigerian president, for the entire uninterrupted duration of Johnny B.Goodluck's upcoming second term as Number One Citizen

i would have ignored your comment if u didnt imput MUST.
by the way is that the only reason we MUST :ovote for this lame duck?

timbuk two:

oh, i'm sorry if i've left you behind buddy but the debate moved onto more pertinent issues ie, what is the problem with OIC membership? how it effects the everyday life of a nigerian? and why are prominent members of nigerian society forever looking to use religion as a means to an end?

your debate was rather simplistic and boring. but i'm sure the bigots and fundamentalists of the forum lapped it up.

I don't understand your argument.

Whilst alleviating poverty, stamping out corruption, and improving infrastructure are objectives of any well meaning leader, increasing the chances of religious strife can not and should not be over-looked. Nigeria is not an Islamic country and enlisting Nigeria in the OIC is surely a catalyst for religious strife. Whilst Buhari may attempt to tackle corruption (because it is Nigeria's biggest problem), Nigerians should not ignore any ulterior motives of anyone seeking political office. After stamping out corruption, will the next objective be the introduction of Sharia into more parts of Nigeria?

I am not against Buhari's candidacy just because of some allegations but trivialising the issue is not advisable. This is a Thorny issue and should be put to Buhari during the presidential debate. It is going to be difficult for him to deny that agenda during a live debate only to do a volte face and begin the process of Islamisation of the nation.

In any case, his personal wish may not become law as he MUST put the bill to the NASS and it must be approved by the required majority.

People dont really get one thing. There is a Big difference between then and now. Things buhari could do then he cant do now because he cant just make laws as we have the house of reps there. Milirtary era is gone and gone for good. He aint stupid , he too has to recognise that simple fact. BB ALL THE WAY

Buhari- A jihadist, extreme religious and tribal segregationist, military anarchist and ethnic bigot.
Bakare- A bogey and phoney tongue-speaking junkie.

Equals to=

@Beaf
This will take us nowhere. The last time I checked, Gej was signing away Nigeria, to the G12 countries of Malaysia, indonesia etc., and the "axis of evil" president Mahmoud Ahmedinejad. They partied, they signed and they left. So tell me what differnce does it make? Demographically, Nigeria, has the largest muslim pop in Africa.
If Europe prides itself on christian club, what stops Nigeria from being that. Has any christian president in Nigeria, been stopped from extending same to the "christian club" of Europeans?
Gej, was in Turkey, to foster cooperation, he was in Senegal, he was in some gulf state countries, all members of OIC. If he is a bigot like you, he shouldn't bother campaigning in the NW, NE and SW. Let him try mentioning that Nigeria is opting out of OIC, in his campaign speech and see where the fire will come from. If he is manly enough let him try.
Sharia, as a way of life has nothing to do with you. If jengebe was punished, how does that concerns you. Is jengebe your relation?

youngmonie:

People dont really get one thing. There is a Big difference between then and now. Things buhari could do then he cant do now because he cant just make laws as we have the house of reps there. Milirtary era is gone and gone for good. He aint silly , he too has to recognise that simple fact. BB ALL THE WAY

What will it take for a president to Islamise Abuja? What are the checks and balances? There are NONE.
Presidents do not need the Senate or House of Reps to do what they wish with Abuja. . . One FEC meeting and boof! Abuja becomes an Islamic capital under the likes of extremists like Buhari.

Lets draw the picture.

Now, Abuja is the Federal Capital, do you understand the symbolism? After that, it will be a creeping thing, pressure applied by stealth and everyone falling in line, because in Nigeria, the President is all powerful. Places like Oyo state, Kogi state will rapidly Islamise. The riots up North will become hurricanes that sweep out those who will not convert, rivers of blood will flow. There will be a form of true federalism, just that it would be religious, not fiscal; sharia will move from its milder form, to something more intense.

We have a false federal structure that makes the centre incredibly powerful, this would become the vehicle for the Islamisation of the country. By stealth, federal organs that do not need any input from the legislature, and therefore have no checks and balances, would become easy vehicles. These are institutions like, the army, the Central Bank, NTA, Radio Nigeria etc. These organs would all be used to subconciously manipulate and subjugate the mind.
For the army, their motto would easily revert to the Islamic one that Obj removed, the CBN would go back to printing Arabic inscriptions on the Naira. On Fedreral Radio and TV, religious greetings and programming would slowly begin to slip in.

We must act to preserve the separation of religion and state from those like Buhari that have abused power in a clandestine plan to Islamise and impose sharia on the country by stealth.

. . .A Stalinist attack on the mind, does not need the Senate or the House of Representatives, they too will be victims of an all powerful Islamised Presidency.

The believers in Murtala's Islamization Plan in the Supreme Military Council, Shehu Yar'Adua, Babangida and Buhari were not powerful enough to push the plan through. They had problems with the avid defenders of the secularism in the Supreme Military Council led by the Service Chiefs {General TY Danjunma (Army), Commodore Isa Doko (Airforce) and Rear Admiral Adelanwa (Navy)}. Tinkling with what the Constituent Assembly approved was what General Obasanjo's regime could do and it did precisely that

Prof. Omo Omoruyi

Research Fellow
African Studies Center
Boston University
Boston, MA, USA

http://www.nigerianpeoples.info/fw-enyimba-please-read-an-article-by-omo-omoruyi

@ Beaf,

No need to waste your valuable time on this issue as its a non-starter.
Buhari cannot islamise nigeria. The best he could do was to secretly make us a bonafide member of OIC.
But as per islamising the country, hell will freezes first.
it will surely accelerate the dismemberment of this dumb contraption, which will be a welcome thing.
Its one of the reasons why am incline to vote BB.
GEJ is nothing but a perpetuation of the status quo whilst Ribadu has already given up the chase with his recent statement.
I look forward to the day when nigeria cease to be.

noblezone:

Buhari will never rule Nigeria again.
Simple.

Amen!

In a free and fair election where everything comes to light, Buhari will never win a national election in Nigeria. No matter how many people are paid to throng his rallies, people will remember his crimes on election day.

T9ksy:

@ Beaf,

No need to waste your valuable time on this issue as its a non-starter.
Buhari cannot islamise nigeria. The best he could do was to secretly make us a bonafide member of OIC.
But as per islamising the country, hell will freezes first.
it will surely accelerate the dismemberment of this dumb contraption, which will be a welcome thing.
Its one of the reasons why am incline to vote BB.
GEJ is nothing but a perpetuation of the status quo whilst Ribadu has already given up the chase with his recent statement.
I look forward to the day when nigeria cease to be.

Lol. An Islamist with our all powerful presidency in his paws is a very dangerous beast indeed, especially one that has been willy enough to create his an absolutely false persona, purely by being highly secretive (eg, hardly any pix of his wives or 9 kids exist).

Allow me create another scenario. Imagine a mythical ex-dictator gets his evil paws on the handles of state power; he rapidly uses his military knowledge to sieze control of the army and ochestrates a coup. . . Only that the coup is primarily directed at federal organ that dilute his power, the Senate and House of Reps. Governors are told to stand down.

. . .Sharia follows. What you gonna do when its too late?

Hello[color=#990000][/color]------------------------------ its 2011, not 1983. Can una dump your militarized experience. Dayum

I'm sure GEj knows better than to play the religion card. If he does, he'll definitely loose out. You definitely don't want to pitch muslims against christians.

I have several questions about a Bakare candidacy. For someone who obviously likes to hug the limelight, will he have the discipline to play a second fiddle as demanded by the office? Is it right for a candidate who is obviously on the religious right, and whose every interview is like a lecture on theology and the bible, to be a heartbeat away from the highest political throne in a secular, plural, multicultural and multi-faith society? To put this in perspective, how will the rest of the country feel if an Imam, whose every utterance is laced with quotes from the Quaran is made the running mate of a major presidential candidate? Or for that matter, what will the country think of an unapologetic priest of Okija shrine or Sango being a heartbeat away from the highest political office in the land? With both Buhari and Bakare being passionate about their religious faiths, how will they resist the temptation of trying to impose their version of morality on the rest of the society? How will their faiths impact on the current strategies for fighting HIV infections or stem cell research? Since extreme religious devotion and democratic temperaments tend to be strange bedfellows, what will be the implications of the Buhari/Bakare presidency for the country’s democratic space? The choice of Bakare as running mate indeed raises fundamental questions about Buhari’s political judgments.

The Buhari/bakare combination is a marriage of two strange bed fellows, two religious bigots of different beliefs. This article by the poster is an eye opener.

naijaking1:

oh really
ibb's wife too was a muslim? One of those conquered christian girls who followed Hausa army go home, and then were forced to convert to Islam.

Buharis wife can be a Christian, though false in this case; but it is a reality that Muslim girls are not permitted to date or marry Christian men its seen as haram, but Muslim men are encouraged to date and marry as many Christian girls as possible ( a case of what is good for the goose not being good for the gander). There was rioting and massacre in Egypt last week because a Muslim girl was dating a coptic christian and her father was shot dead for not bringing her out to be stoned to death like it was planned for that lady Aisha in Zamfara, who was rescued by the US Govt who paid blood money (Diyya) to her captors.

Religion should be separated entirely from state, having Sharia police (Hisba) in some states of Nigeria should be banned.
The abokis rooting for Buhari are doing it out of religious sentiment. What you hear when he is addressing the crowds is shouts of Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar!!
I respect Islam, the way it is practiced among the Yorubas and wish that other Muslims will emulate them. Living in peace and respecting the Ifa worshiper or Christian as they practice their faith and celebrating with each other in good or bad times whether it is Osun Osogbo, Xmas, Sallah, Illeya they are always celebrating their cultural heritage and Yorubaness before religion

@Beaf
All you have quoted are unreliable and contradictory.

Who are all these "respected" authors you quote and what publications were they writing in?

What are these writers' political affiliations?

Many journalist in Nigeria are paid by politician to defame their opposition?

Some of your quotes says that Murtulla Mohamed made the application, and all other leaders before IBB were unable to push it through .

Other quotes say that Buhari submitted the application  WTF    A BIG LIE !!!

Others says that Babaginda did everything. 



[size=28pt]quoting random individuals does not constitute evidence!

You need to provided credible evidence as it is easy for anybody to make any allegation.

IBB was responsible for Nigeria's membership of OIC that is a well known fact, u need to provide credible evidence if you are claiming otherwise

Please stop trying to defame Buhari, it was obvious that Buhari's focus during his short tenure was tackling corruption and the economy.

Finally I still maintain one of Buhari's wives is born again Christian  [/size]

This topic is completely out of point.
Can One person change the religious status of Millions?
propaganda will never ceased.
Was it not ur Obasanjo who carried on the initialization of Full membership of OIC,that never used against him,when he wanted to contest in 2003 & 2007.
Where u people blind and deaf
2003,2007,this issue was never raised,why now,coz Obasanjo who partook in act was contesting then.TRIBALISM OF HIGHEST ORDER.
BUHARI/BAKARE ARE THE PATH OF OUR GREATNESS IN THIS COUNTRY.GOD HAS GIVEN US FREE WILL.USE URS WISELY!

By their names we shall know them. @beaf, there's no need arguing wit som1 who already has his name as GenBuhari, it will just be an exercise in futility and like Dog like master, you can't change their rigid brains!!!

GenBuhari:

@Beaf
All you have quoted are unreliable and contradictory.

Who are all these "respected" authors you quote and what publications were they writing in?

What are these writers' political affiliations?

Many journalist in Nigeria are paid by politician to defame their opposition?

Some of your quotes says that Murtulla Mohamed made the application, and all other leaders before IBB were unable to push it through .

Other quotes say that Buhari submitted the application  WTF    A BIG LIE !!!

Others says that Babaginda did everything.  

quoting random individuals does not constitute evidence!

You need to provided credible evidence as it is easy for anybody to make any allegation.

IBB was responsible for Nigeria's membership of OIC that is a well known fact, u need to provide credible evidence if you are claiming otherwise

Please stop trying to defame Buhari, it was obvious that Buhari's focus during his short tenure was tackling corruption and the economy.

Finally I still maintain one of Buhari's wives is born again Christian

Did you actually read the article and check the sources? You give people a low impression of your abilities when you call accomplished and well known academics, "journalists" and "random individuals."
Your post is extremely ridiculous, but maybe you are very young. Please go find out who those men and the universities quoted are.

assme:

By their names we shall know them. @beaf, there's no need arguing wit som1 who already has his name as GenBuhari, it will just be an exercise in futility and like Dog like master, you can't change their rigid brains!!!

LOL!

I guess you are right.

STUPID PEOPLE IS OIC OUR PROBLEM ??
PEOPLE ARE DYING OF HUNGER AND LACK OF EDUCATION
BASIC INFASTRUCTURES,SCHOOLS,HOSPITALS,
SOME MEN ARE STEALING BILLIONS SUPPOSEDLY
MEANT TO DEVELOP THE COUNTRY,

AND SOME PEOPLE ARE DISCUSSING OIC

I DONT GET IT CAN ALL OF US BE THIS DISILLUSIONED
OUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE, AND YOU ARE COMPLAINING
OF THE RAG WE LEFT IN THE KITCHEN SINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bintus2much:

Beaf is quite idle. He has got nothing to do with his time. Am sure the pay from his OGA Joe is still keeping him going. why are you trying to flog a dead horse? this is no issue as far as Nigeria is concerned. people are not bothered it ok. If you are, you can go ahead and keep barking. Go and ask the common man on the street if OIC is one of their problems. Face Better issues ok. you only bring up issues that will reveal how wrong you judge and evaluate issues,  Sorry but its BB all the way

NO ITS NOT BARKING,LET HIM GO AND CHOP STONE LIKE MY GUY ICEPRINCE WILL SAY.
POEPLE LIKE BEEF ARE MEANT TO BE IN MALI OR CHAD AS FORGOTTEN REBELS

[size=28pt]Being well known academic does not mean that their word is the truth.

You have not mentioned their political affiliations.

There should be documentary evidence of who submitted the OIC membership application?

If you do not have such evidence then you need to stop your lies.[/size]