Bkayyy:

I'm not taking sides yet in you two misunderstanding but I want to affirm your point that there is no way you can claim to be an Igbo man and be against Biafra as a nation. That is treason. It's like saying that you are Hausa-Fulani and against Arewa.
You can only be against MNK as a person and IPOB as an Organization but Biafra is the hallmark of Igboness as it appears as the only thing visible as an Igbo nation except you are pro Alaigbo country like me which I think supercedes Biafra notion.
Thank you. Now let's go back to how to draft the Petition

Eastlink:
Ok, thanks for the correction. What was Governor Mbakwe’s standing argument that made the Supreme court allow Rivers state win. Was ethnicity a factor in the argument or just boundary adjustment?

Eastlink:
The divided Germany were once a united country before the war. So their unity was expected, but we shouldn't forget the role the US played in that unity. The case of the Austrians, Swiss and German Hungarian is quite different as each of them had always fell under separate country from the old Prussian Germany.

Rugaria:


Onitsha is not totally a good comparison per se. Zik, the leader of the igbos at a time, was from Onitsha. So the identity crises shouldn't have risen in the first place
. I don't understand how somebody leading will be confused about his identity or be wondering if he really belongs... Let's look at Asaba.. Imediately after the war, Asaba was part of the cities that showed this type of attitude. Infact, it used to be the case in in Asaba during the 70s and 80s. The only reason it subsided in Asaba is because of the presence of intelligent people like the Asagba of Asaba and folks like Chief Sony Odogwu and the fact that Onitsha businesses that migrated to Asaba after the creation of Delta State, did so with little confrontations.

Portharcort has not been lucky with such farsighted individuals. So what happened?? It's because we lost a war and the "Victor's" took time to mutilate our borders and hand over many parts to different groups that supported them. Maybe the majority of ikwerres hate Igbo, if that is the case, then let them go. There are other communities with historical Igbo ties that shouldn't be antagonized because they have noisy leaders good at taunting igbos. Personally, I'm not bothered by the empty rants of the likes Wike and co. I'm not that simple minded. You don't biuld a state by being so temperamental. There used to be a time when Obigbo had this sort of acrimonious relationship with the rest of the Igbo states. Today, they are the ones being massacred for an Igbo cause!

Are we also going to throw away Obigbo? After all until recently, they were showing similar nonchalant attitude towards the Igbo cause.. What led to the epiphany that changed them from nonchalant Igbos to foundamentalist Igbos? Isn't it better to focus on those positives than to twaddle with triffles? If this discussion happened twenty years back, Obigbo will be part of those receiving ultimatums to "declare" or "disappear". Isn't it obvious that instead of engaging in all these petty fights, we should be more concerned with improving the Igbo man's political clout so these minorities can see the GAINS in alligning with us? After all the last time they alligned with us, they were massacred! And we couldn't save them!

Eastlink:
I’m not pro-Biafra, I’ve never been and will never be. I supposed you are surprised.

Ojiofor:


Somebody posted the supreme court ruling in this platform recently,you can search for it and read it.
Obigbo,Egbema etc...was in East Central and Imo state from 1967/76 until Mamman Nasir boundary adjustment commission ceded it to Rivers state in 1976.People of then Imo state saw it as an unfair decision and the reason it was challenged in court by the people's governor.

Igboid:
Its no longer news that Ohanaeze Ndiigbo is one the most vocal voices in calling for restructuring of Nigeria. While this is a good call, judgement however must start from home. Ohanaeze must first put It's house in order before it can start wading into national issues. Not doing so is akin to a man whose house is on fire chasing a rat.

Ohanaeze replaced Igbo Union after the civil war and simply continued from where the later stopped like nothing changed, when in truth the definition of who is Igbo and who wasn't had changed post 1970.
Ohanaeze currently recognize groups such as Ikwerre, Ogba,Ndokwa,Ika, Ekpeye who has since distanced themselves from the Igbo tag since post civil, as Igbo. What this means is that Ohanaeze Ndiigbo is an organization living in the past and who are not up to date with modern realties.

The fall out of this is that dubious persons from the above mentioned groups can claim Igbo and take slots reserved for Igbos in national politics while denying Igbo when doing so portends being left with a short end of the stick.

It also lead to national embarrassment and present Ndiigbo as a spoilt brand or land grabbers when members from the above mentioned groups go on to denounce their Igbo tag, leaving Ndiigbo with eggs on our faces and presenting us as a people desperate for forced association with these groups who in reality have nothing to offer us as a people.

Bkayyy:
Bikonu ka anyị tụọ aro dị ndụ ọbụrọ ị nachiya na nkata nwụrụ anwụ

Muna4real:

Nsukka people had to bear the full force of Igbo invasion from the North. You don't see them asking for special favours or denying Igbos.
This bullshit where by some Igbos outside SE try to the picture of being special because they feel they suffered more than us in Biafra is nonsense. No such thing happened. Every one suffered.
Anyone denying Igbo is doing it of their own volition. No excuse they can put forward which those of us in SE can't too.


Exactly!

Igboid:
Eastlink

You lack perspective. Biafra was supposed to be an Eastern region thing, that's why Ojukwu couldn't bring Western Igbo along lest he be accused of annexing the region. All he could do was create a republic of Benin for them at the interim. I'm sure had Biafra won, we would have redrawn the map to include Anioma.

But we all know that in the end, when the dust settled, Igbos were left to bear the albatross of Biafra and the suffering therefore defined and United us as people and separated us from chameleonic Bini Igboids who wanted no part of the suffering. On the Anioma suffering. Cut the thrash already. Every one suffered. Nsukka people had to bear the full force of Igbo invasion from the North. You don't see them asking for special favours or denying Igbos. This bullshit where by some Igbos outside SE try to the picture of being special because they feel they suffered more than us in Biafra is nonsense. No such thing happened. Every one suffered.

We all know why Asaba massacre happened. It happened because the Northern soldiers believed they were avenging Saraduna death on Nzeogwu people. Its bad it happened, but let's not pretend we don't know why.

Anyone denying Igbo is doing it of their own volition. No excuse they can put forward which those of us in SE can't too.

Don't get it twisted. Ojukwu knew Biafra with SS minorities is impossible. He saw it all. My uncle died in the swamps of Ijawland, almost all his troop members were sinked there. Those who escaped told stories of how those minorities joined ranks with the FG and massacred our troops down there. The hate and resentment was real!

Notice Ojukwu focused his messages post civil on Igbos only. He never preached for Union between us and those minorities. He practically concerned himself with just Ndiigbo.

And he never asked us to forgo Biafra. He was wise enough to know that we can't go at it again through war, so we have to pursue it through political process, like Catalonia is doing. Build a strong pro Biafra political party, improve the economy of Igboland and improve the living standard of Igbos in Igbo land.

Push for a degree of autonomy from Nigeria, and take it on from there. This was what Ojukwu was on for. This is what sensible Igbos thought that IPOB was bringing. Little did we know they were bereft of practical ideas.

Biafra will always remain the rallying point for Ndiigbo.
Pushing for Biafra will not cost us anything if we set our home right.

Catalonia remain the richest region in Spain yet the fact that Catalonians on the majority want out of Spain is not lost on Spaniards.
Catalonia just folded their sleeves and worked on their land.
Its that simple. If we get our shit right. With or without FG. Our share of monthly allocations and our human resources if well harnessed and managed and not left in the hands of T.A orji and Ikpeazu while Nnamdi Kanu waste the time of Abia youths with stupid talks of Atiku Cameroon origin or Jubril being Buhari clone, would be enough to start an industrial revolution in Igboland.

Bkayyy:

Please let's discuss about our petition and leave going round how some people with mouth and fingers refused to protest the ceding of them and their land to an Igbo phobic state.
Just look at the past scenario, it has always been the SE people like the then Imo State Governor fighting on their behalf while they relax like imbeciles waiting for the winner to take them.

Ojiofor:


The winner has taken them already and it is left for them to agitate to join us if they wish.
We need to visit Ohanaeze secretariat in Enugu after the petition.
It seems those guys enjoy it when Igbos kisses their asses while they insult them.

Muna4real:
This issue of identity crisis has really gone to far. It's so annoying. You can't be claiming two tribes at once. You can't be igbo when you desire any right of nndigbo and become igbophobic just to please some people. Sometimes, I wonder what they gain by being igbophobic.

By the way, Eastlink and ojiofor are not igbos. I wonder they are deceiving themselves on this thread

Muna4real:
This issue of identity crisis has really gone to far. It's so annoying. You can't be claiming two tribes at once. You can't be igbo when you desire any right of nndigbo and become igbophobic just to please some people. Sometimes, I wonder what they gain by being igbophobic.

By the way, Eastlink and ojiofor are not igbos. I wonder they are deceiving themselves on this thread

Ojiofor:


I am from Bende LGA Abia state,where are you from?
Brainwashed IPOB zombie .

Bkayyy:

These people are not being igbophobic to please some imaginary people like that senseless MNK made some people to believe. These people don't actually like us at all. They hate us more than boko haram. I believe you have never met any of them in real life.
The worst is that they won't wait a second to show you how they hate you and wish that your ethnicity cease to exist

Muna4real:

My Wonder is what they gain from this stupidity

Muna4real:


You have just revealed your identity.

Please all nndigbo on this thread should stop quoting these people.[b] From the way I see it, they are just spies who want to know our every move and decisions as nndigbo by asking us questions. [/b]Please ignore them.

Bkayyy:


It is not stupidity. They don't just like Igbo simple

Muna4real:


It becomes stupidity when they try to bring in ridiculous accusations like oil and land theft.

I hope Ohaneze nndigbo will get this message but I doubt if they will carry out any action. How will they take actions when these same people are in Key positions in Ohaneze . It just looks like an impossible task. Nwodo himself behaves like a zombie. If he can't defend nndigbo nationally, then why do we think that he can protect our identity.

Ojiofor:


We don't want brain dead IPOB zombies in this thread.Please keep off.Don't contaminate this topic with your stupidity.

Igboid:
Eastlink.
Work on your reply so that I can provide proper rebuttal.
Your presentation is poor.

Dalu.

Muna4real:


I have seen your stupidity on many posts here but I choose not to point it out and give it the right tag. I didn't insult you so please stay your lane. Calling me an ipob zombie sells you out.

Bkayyy:

Way to go. But first thing is the drafting of the petition and getting reasonable number of signatories which I believe won't be a problem once the people understand that some group of inconsequential people take us as fools to scam. Every living thing outside Igbo land that wishes to join Ohaneze after the petition must undergo due and strenuous process like what the foolish and Ignorant self hating Igbo that thinks they are Jews are passing through now in the hands of Israel

Ojiofor:


That is exactly what you are don't even deny it.
You didn't insult me,are you serious?
How did you conclude that I am not Igbo even when I told you my LGA?
You better remain in your lane or get crushed!

Muna4real:


I'm not a new member of nairaland my dear. I've marked out your moniker a very long time ago. Telling me your local government or picking a local government of your choice in the south east dosen't make you igbo. And yes, I didn't insult you.

Ojiofor:


We don't want brain dead IPOB zombies in this thread.Please keep off.Don't contaminate this topic with your stupidity.