This is commendable, more power to your elbow.

CheGuevara101:


He deserves an accolade even if na one day treatment. Show appreciation for once. If all the wealthy and influential people in Nigeria would show some love in their various community even if for one day by now this country would be a better place.

You rise a very good point there, my argument was not questioning his humanity and good deed but from the point of his believe. What is his justification.

Amotolongbo:
See ignoramus.
Who argues with you that Christianity has no corelation with spread of civilization?
Same thing Islam does.

The major things which has helped brought civilization to the entire world has alleged by Enenche is economics and politics.

To the understanding of the knowledgeable men, Christianity hasn’t and is not allowed in some countries, but they still have their politics and economics connected in one form or the other connected to the outside world(s)

Your problem is not reading but not being able to assimilate. The pastor opined that Christianity was responsible for the spread of civilization to the entire world and you faulted him by talking about the origin of civilization. Are you ok? These are two different statements.There is a discernible difference between knowledge and wisdom. Memorizing facts lends knowledge, but wisdom is so much more. Wisdom allows us to blend knowledge with intuition in a way that enables us to live in the most intentional way. It is the key to a mindful and magical life. Our life should revolve around books. We should forever be reading, researching, highlighting, scribbling, and annotating.

Starzo:

na everything una go criticize...even the good ones sef. it's completely hopeless

you to are criticizing others for not believing on what others believe.

CamusMidas:

You rise a very good point there, my argument was not questioning his humanity and good deed but from the point of his believe. What is his justification.

This is his justification; Jesus said “whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”

Is it gonna be free for his church members at least?

Church is a blessing to Nigeria
More hospital
More school
More market and mall
More skill acquisition centers
People should pay money to maintain this facility low and affordable

CheGuevara101:


This is his justification; Jesus said “whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”

Yeah, but he is gonna get paid don't you get it. It is not free. I don't think you honestly believe that's what that chapter is referring to.

When will a mosque commission something at least

Great!

I hope Church haters and critics will be silenced for now.

The Church is marching on.

Hallelujah!

Praise the Lord!

May God help me. I hope to do something like this in the nearest future. Amen.

CamusMidas:

Yeah, but he is gonna get paid don't you get it. It is not free. I don't think you honestly believe that's what that chapter is referring to.

If his intention was to get paid there wouldn't be need in setting up that edifice in the rural area. The motive for setting up that hospital was to provide quality healthcare at a subsidized and affordable rate.

CheGuevara101:

If his intention was to get paid there wouldn't be need in setting up that edifice in the rural area. The motive for setting up that hospital was to provide quality healthcare at a subsidized and affordable rate.

Let's agree to disagree because from the look of things we would just be going in circle and that's fruitless.

The alleged pastor who made a video to curse freezer

Amotolongbo:
argumentum ad ignorantium.

Civilization had started far back, a very long time before Christianity.

Where in the Bible did Jesus Christ or the apostle told Christians to bring civilization to the world

Uselessness

Ekakamba:

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A good one.

Make e dey affordable for commoners sha.

Why are you dribbling back

All the schools they have build which is affordable

This can't be tooo

CamusMidas:

Let's agree to disagree because from the look of things we would just be going in circle and that's fruitless.

Since time immemorial the church has been in the business of providing quality healthcare at affordable rates. Take the Catholic church for instance, they have Catholic hospitals spread accross the geographic region of Nigeria and these hospitals are very affordable. There's one situated at Kirikiri, in Lagos here, it's operated by Saint Joseph's parish and I can tell you that people irrespecrive of tribe and religion troop into the hospital on a daily basis.

Denique:
Freeze has to condemn this act before I start taking him seriously.

Wait for him to REACT tomorrow, hahaha!

When churches begin to build hospitals I begin to wonder whether they no longer do miracle healing services. *pensive

P.S I am a Christian o but if decide to mention me without using sense, I'll be waiting for you.

GoshenNLA:
Haters won’t see this, Na when he buys private jet for himself hypocrites will be saying rubbish,
Davido has a private jet, but capable ministers of God should be queuing in airports for ticket??
Nice one Pastor jare, more exploits

Ignorant is worst thing that can happen to a man, when you think you know yet you know nothing.......

Dangote and saveral rich Nigerian entrepreneur have products they produce as well giving back to the society......... they became rich by solving problems with their products.......
A con man will rather than build factory/products that will benefit the society, build one million capacity church with the people's money then build one hospital out of the billions and ooooo, the brainwashed followers will start worshipping/singing his praise........ why won't Nigeria be this stagnant with such mindset.....

owukpa:
The Senior Pastor, Dunamis International Gospel Centre Abuja, Pastor Paul Enenche, commissioned the multi-million Naira Messiah Medical Centre Jos, the Plateau State capital, on Saturday, saying Christianity brought civilization to the entire world, IDOMA VOICE reports.

Speaking as a Guest Speaker during the dedication/commissioning of the Messiah Medical Centre of Church of Eternal Life (COEL) Jos at the weekend, Enenche said most of the best universities in the world today came into existence as a result of Christian missionary activities.

According to him, anywhere one sees a Church, beside it, there must be a school or hospital building, adding that Christianity is the hallmark of civilization and knowledge.

He commended Christian organisations saying that apart from striving for the upliftment of the spiritual life of their congregation also go extra mile to build hospitals to cater for the medical needs of members of their immediate community.

Governor Simon Lalong of Plateau State, who was represented at the occasion by the Commissioner for Special Duties and Inter-governmental Affairs, Hon. Irmiya Sauni Werre, in his remark, appreciated the effort of Reverend Sunday O. Academe, Senior Pastor of COEL, complementing the effort of the state government to provide quality health care service to the people of the state.

Earlier in his opening address, Rev Academe said the Messiah Medical Centre is a vision from God to render medical service to the needy with Christ-like hospitality.

According to him, the hospital is to give first class treatment to people medically challenged at a minimal cost and will be open 24 hours a day for medical services stressing that the centre will commence with a One week free medical treatment in the area.

He pointed out that the hospital is a complex of Three floor building comprising of all amenities and equipped with modern medical facilities in all department.

According to him, the medical center is affiliated to other top hospitals and medical personnel both within and outside the country.
Video and pictures below...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SlJ9mD737E

SOURCE>>>https://www.idomavoice.com/2020/11/pastor-enenche-commissions-multi-million-naira-messiah-medical-centre-in-jos.html

So miracles have officially given way for medicine. Yet na Pastor go still collect tithe after members get healed by the doctors who burst their asses off...

This life no balance truetrue...

EmekaBlue:
All these new generation Churches are rich.

They ask you to pray for money but collect money from you. Why don't they pray for the money to fall from heaven?!

If i hear say enough revenue for them no go dey come from this medical center just like winners and their covenant university

The owner and hin wife sef ma Medical Doctors. I just see this as the doctor opening his own private hospital...the guy don ise church members hammer...

This naija ehn, na gullible people full am. See me for Ado now, no single shop don open, everybody dey church. Even beer parlor sef no open cos of church, and dem go return come open beer parlor after 2pm...

This country, na to japa sure pass walahi!!!

Ozimama:
using offering money to build it is good sha
kudos to you

Is it your money, or did they point a gun to anyone's head to pay offering? You guys will see good things and not appreciate and go.

PaulH07:


The owner and hin wife sef ma Medical Doctors. I just see this as the doctor opening his own private hospital...the guy don ise church members hammer...

This naija ehn, na gullible people full am. See me for Ado now, no single shop don open, everybody dey church. Even beer parlor sef no open cos of church, and dem go return come open beer parlor after 2pm...

This country, na to japa sure pass walahi!!!

Amotolongbo:
argumentum ad ignorantium.

Civilization had started far back, a very long time before Christianity.

No, you are ignorant rather.
In context of Nigeria, Christianity brought western education and was the beginning if development in Nigeria and Africa as a whole.

CheGuevara101:


Since time immemorial the church has been in the business of providing quality healthcare at affordable rates. Take the Catholic church for instance, they have Catholic hospitals spread accross the geographic region of Nigeria and these hospitals are very affordable. There's one situated at Kirikiri, in Lagos here, it's operated by Saint Joseph's parish and I can tell you that people irrespecrive of tribe and religion troop into the hospital on a daily basis.

People troop in also from the one in my location, but you and I know that they are not cheap. The troop in because of the suppose quality health care and for because of affordability.

And as stated earlier, that's not where my argument is going from. If I believe in government so much and every Sunday I heal people from various diseases, why would I use that resources to set up a hospital; where people would have to pay to get the same healings you give people for free?

Ibadansun1:
He forgot western civilization which people mistake for Christian civilization is a stolen one.

They stole Architecture from the East

Stole Music and rythem from Africa

Stole Food and spices from far east etc.

And they stopped the East and Africans from progressing or making improvement after copying their models?

CamusMidas:

People troop in also from the one in my location, but you and I know that they are not cheap. The troop in because of the suppose quality health care and for because of affordability.

And as stated earlier, that's not where my argument is going from. If I believe in government so much and every Sunday I heal people from various diseases, why would I use that resources to set up a hospital; where people would have to pay to get the same healings you give people for free?

Sincerely, I don't think you understand what you're saying. Go back and read your comments over and over again then come back and tell me if it makes sense.

CheGuevara101:

Sincerely, I don't think you understand what you're saying. Go back and read your comments over and over again then come back and tell me if it makes sense.

If I believe in *God not government.

Amotolongbo:
argumentum ad ignorantium.

Civilization had started far back, a very long time before Christianity.

Idiots on the pulpit and their illiterate followers do not know this. Civilization started from Egypt and China followed. Where was Christianity then.

Giving back to the world that gave you. This is the way it should be.

CheGuevara101:


You're an ignoramus, he said Christianity brought civilization to the entire world. There's a difference between where civilization started and how it was spread accross the whole world.

it wasn't even Christianity that spread civilization to the world. Asian countries are developed was it Christianity that made that possible, African nations are some of the most religious how civilized is it?

Amotolongbo:
argumentum ad ignorantium.

Civilization had started far back, a very long time before Christianity.

Egypt the very Cradle of Civilization, with discovrry of writting