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Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by kjsixtynine: 10:19am On Nov 17, 2020 |
Neither has Messi or any top player in world footballing history, save for a minuscule few. Throughout history, the best players more often than not usually play for the top teams. Your premise is quite faulty and your conclusion holds no water. Angelfrost: |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by Angelfrost(m): 10:33am On Nov 17, 2020 |
kjsixtynine: What premise are you on about??! How exactly does my conclusion not stand firmly??!... I never compared Messi and Ronaldo (I have no time for such absurdity)... I merely poked holes in Fergie's argument. Simple as that!!! You cannot call a player better than another based on an assumption (no better word) that he will do far better than another in smaller clubs when he has never played in one... You simply stick to comparing them solely on what they do or have done in their respective top clubs. That is my premise, and how or where I stand. |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by Earlystar698(m): 10:33am On Nov 17, 2020 |
ItzWilly: lol |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by IgweBUIKE1(m): 10:40am On Nov 17, 2020 |
FuckThaMod:lol pls show me a video proof and i will give you 10 |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ezechi24(m): 11:00am On Nov 17, 2020 |
talking trash against a player that messed u up in two consecutive finals....hahahahah |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by FuckThaMod: 11:06am On Nov 17, 2020 |
IgweBUIKE1:Why just 10? Shebi it's all other coaches and pundits? You first show me all of them. Troll. https://mobile.twitter.com/goal/status/1270844473950515203?lang=en |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ledaman: 11:22am On Nov 17, 2020 |
Cr7 he is a trained product while Messi is naturally gifted so Messi all the way. |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by mentored: 11:54am On Nov 17, 2020 |
michealdeco: Tarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr He moved from Lower teams to Man U. ATLEAST HE MOVED LET MESSI MOVE Too Ejoooorrrrrrrrrrr 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ogbonti: 12:19pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
tfash96: Mr Common Sense, I know you are an emotional Messi supporter but facts are a stubborn thing. The facts are not on Messi's side and the facts Supports Ronaldo If you ever played football at team level, you will understand that skills or talent alone doesn’t guarantee you success or makes you an excellent footballer - you ability to blend those skills with different coaching techniques and instructions from your managers and the cultures of different clubs and your national team coupled with your unique ability to inspire success within the team (especially when you are the captain) is the attribute of a complete player This is the reason history never remember great players who did not play the senior world cup. Go ask George Weah, he is the first and only African to win the European best player, African beat player and world best player all in one year (1995) based on his exploits at PSG and AC Milan - (club level achievement) but won nothing with the Lone Stars of Liberia- Not even the African Cup of Nations. He didn’t play the world cup and that is his biggest regret in football. So why should Weah have any regret in football ? Because he was not successful with his national team and that cast doubts on his ability to lead and inspire success when he is removed from the sophistication of European football. This is why the adjective “world cup winner” is crested proudly on certain players like Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldo Nazario de Lima, Iniesta and Mueller. Or at least win the continental trophy of your country just like players who never won the world cup but were fortunate to win these tournaments, like Mitchel Platini of France in 1984, Ruud Gullit and Marco Van Basten of Netherlands in 1988 and Cristiano Ronaldo of Portugal in 2016 Messi is indeed a great player no doubt, but he has not proven he can succeed outside Barca like Ronaldo proved in Man U, Real Madrid, Juventus and with the Portuguese National Team- so understand the difference And lastly, a player and captain who gets easily deflated when things don’t go his way can not be described as the GREATEST OF ALL TIMES! That’s an insult to players like Franz Beckenbaur, Lothar Matheus, Cafu and even CR7 - look at how lost and confused Messi was when he played Bayern and Barca got pummeled 8-2 Diego Maradona, the Argentine legend in all his career was never seen in that depressing state. Even when Cameroon defeated Argentina at the opening game of Italia’90 - he left the field with his head held up high and inspired the team to reach the finals only to lose narrowly to Germany So- Messi is great no doubt but Ronaldo, according to Sir Alex is greater because Ronaldo has proven to be successful with different teams! 4 Likes |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by IgweBUIKE1(m): 12:31pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
ogbonti:smiles analysis of a premier league fan... technical messi is better even in argentina messi is the highest goal scorer and the best player of the world same ronaldo played in... last time i checked a team consist of 11player on the pitch. if ronaldo is that good he should have won the best of the tournament.. ronaldo is like out regular player but players like zidane ronaldinhi and messi are players you see once in a decade.. i respect yaya of man city than penaldo 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ogbonti: 12:37pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
IgweBUIKE1: even yaya of Man City will advise you check into rehab if he reads what you wrote right now- peace on your soul CR7 hater - hope Messi pays for your megabytes u waste on nairaland - i dey go work, bye bye 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ogbonti: 12:40pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
Adeolabency: Olympics is not a standard tournament that’s why there are no trophies but just medals and it is age limit tournament - Under 23 and 3 overaged, not a senior team tournament like Confederations cup OR senior world cup OR Copa America 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ogbonti: 12:41pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
Adeolabency: no one remembers runner up as no one remembers vice presidents or deputy governors 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by Helpfromabove1(m): 1:25pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
emmyw: Sorry for the pains, it just the reality Anybody who doesn't believe this should inquire about what happened to Ronaldinho after he left barca. Fortunate enough Messi plays for his national team and we could barely see him on pitch. But Ronaldo would always be everywhere. CR7 for life 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by Xpress24(m): 2:06pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
Osezzua:u are ignorant he coached and won trophies with another team before taking the man u job |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by drezo(m): 2:21pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
You said REAL MADRID was a top big team blah blah blah, when Ronaldo left what could they do? The whole world watched small teams trash them mercilessly, even now they're just hanging on, yes Ronaldo couldn't win champions with juve because he is getting old OBVIOUSLY... If you miss his performance in his 20's well sorry you will miss it forever because the dude is growing older and weaker by nature, that guy had agility, speed, skills even Messi confessed Ronaldo is better than him so calm down bro. There is a video I shared with someone here where he talked exclusively on Ronaldo, what other type of goals has Messi scored Does he even use his head at all Do you even know what it means to be a complete player Messi intends to leave Barcelona now that he's almost useless... When he has used most of useful years to play in one club using his influence as equal to the president... to secure several trophys, when Ronaldo was in ENGLAND Man U did he not perform and contend ballondor?? Didn't he do the same in SPAIN real Madrid? Is it now he is growing older you want him to run like a 20 yrs old, go and sit down you no sabi joor.. michealdeco: 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by IgweBUIKE1(m): 2:32pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
ogbonti:lol no be to go work be the koko. na to bring money come house bro, no hating messi sabi play football pass Ronaldo no dispute. yaya sabi play ball pass ronaldo no dispute |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by Xpress24(m): 2:39pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
IgweBUIKE1:if that would make u feel better |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ogbonti: 4:01pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
IgweBUIKE1: it is now about money, no longer about the facts and stats ? - so let’s talk about money, is Messi richer than CR7? before you start arguing blindly, use google to check forbes I am done arguing with you because your emotions are gettin on your way to reason well |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by schurley(m): 4:05pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
Angelfrost: You started well till you mention playing in 3 different country and league as the same as playing in one club for your whole career, that statement is as ridiculous as anything ever, you could make a case for Messi replicating his inspiring form in all those league, but belittling Cr7 adapting mentality to adjust to different country, Club, culture, language, playing style and pattern and all his very ridiculous, so many players have change clubs and becoming flops not to say leagues. Cr7 ability to adapt to different league, and clubs shouldn't be belittled in the vein to praise or acknowledge Messi's greatness. P.s Playing in one club do not however take anything away from Messi stature and achievements, Pele too played in the Brazil for his entire career, and his getting a goat shout. 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by schurley(m): 4:10pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
teejaymoremoney: Do you realise Cr7 began playing as Midfielder in a 442 earlier in his career at Manchester united, before playing as right wing then playing as a center forward in his latter years of his career, Note in won his first Ballon d'or as a midfielder. 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by Angelfrost(m): 4:20pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
schurley: I am not quite sure you fully grasp the meaning of the term "Belittling"! Cos, I never did such... I merely stated a simple and obvious fact. No one compelled Ronaldo to go hopping from league to league, neither is there a basis for ascribing or alluding to such as an achievement... We judge players based on their performances in top clubs, not in how many leagues they have waltzed into... This comes into consideration solely if the said player downgraded from a top club to a lower one with average players and still keeps soaring, which happens to be the issue under discourse here. I have never praised Messi by ridiculing or downgrading Ronaldo's achievements... Honestly, I am a fan of neither player, so I can easily afford to be objective and neutral... It is a player's personal choice to jump from club to club or league to league, but that should never give him added points!!! This is as objective as it gets sir. |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by schurley(m): 4:33pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
mystical109: Scoring and assisting in in his local league is as easy as guguru and chinchin, were the real test comes is the Champions league werw he and his team as being humiliated, flogged and chased out 5 times in a roll. 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by schurley(m): 5:23pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
Angelfrost: "Playing for Manchester United (Greatest club in England), Juventus (Clear leader in a farmers' league), and Real Madrid (I need not say more) is really no different from playing solely in an equally high flying club all through one's career!!!" This statement of yours is a bias opinio, of course i have no problem with your choice of whom you see fit of being better (Cr7 and Messi), it was simply borne out of an attempt to jettison his continuous strife to replicate such form and performance in entirely different climates (league). Nuff said, do you know the numbers of players whose career's has been recked from moving to one club/league to another_which you claim says otherwise? Players like Robinho, Kaka, Torres, Shevchenko, Keane, Coutinho, Deco, Falcoa among others, as flopped basically as a result of a change in team/league. But according to you, changing team/league doesn't directly or indirectly have any effect on footballers output and productivity.....Amazing!!! 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by Beverlyjean(f): 5:53pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
ogbonti: U nailed it completely without mercy 1 Like |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by Angelfrost(m): 6:10pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
schurley: Sigh... How you deliberately or in-deliberately continue to miss the thrust or crux of my submission bewilders me in all honesty. A player can succeed or fail when he moves from one club to the other or from one league to another... In the same way, players can equally keep soaring all through their careers in a single club or league, while others spend the same length of time in one club with steadily diminishing results. This is simple and basic logic of football... Of life actually... We need not major on non-issues. I believe Messi and certain other players' choice to remain in a single club has nothing to do with the fear of the unknown but largely due to having all they require in their solo clubs... On the other hand, certain other players choose not to stay put in one club for varying reasons which suit them personally... One is not superior nor inferior to the other on that basis. |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ogbonti: 9:33pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
Beverlyjean: yes ooo some emotional Messi supporters need to be reminded that Messi is a Barca great NOT the G.O.A.T!!!! |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by Beverlyjean(f): 10:25pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
ogbonti: Messi will end up on the same level with players kike cruyff and di Stefano |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ogbonti: 12:10am On Nov 18, 2020 |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by tfash96(m): 7:05am On Nov 18, 2020 |
ogbonti:na me you write all diz epistle to.. Make I no lie u na 1st and last paragraph I read |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ogbonti: 11:10am On Nov 18, 2020 |
tfash96: because you be olodo!!!! |
Re: Messi Vs Ronaldo: Alex Ferguson Gives Verdict On Greater Player by ojaysam25(m): 9:36pm On Nov 18, 2020 |
Afam4eva: What of the Argentine maradona and Diego Simone |
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