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Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by weyreypey: 9:20pm On Nov 21
rowland545:
lols...r u sure u r a lecturer or a motto park agboro?

For me I'm sure its d latter

Go to the universities and see what is happening there..... You people like fooling yourselves...teach kor research ni

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Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by MozB: 9:44pm On Nov 21
It doesn't seem like this strike is going to end anytime soon.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by Danny50: 10:08pm On Nov 21
As calabar boy wey i be... Could you imagine this shameles people.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by tunize(m): 10:54pm On Nov 21
Yenefer:
Good. ASUU are just corrupt union after there own pocket and interest. If not Buhari is soft on citizens and converted democrat. i would have recommend he starts using gestapo style on ASUU leadership.
You very correct cos with the Federal government scheme of payment majority of the loop holes of the lecturers receiving double pay is going to be blown to the air. ASUU is so corrupt making it seem like they're fighting for for the welfare of quality education, while at the long-run they're fighting on their own personal interest. Las Las na students i dey pity for shall

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Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by Digiflex(m): 11:03pm On Nov 21
JONSYN7154:
This Ngige of a person is a clown.
It seems you dont have respect for your Elders.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by obstead200(m): 1:48am On Nov 22
Nwadiuto247:


Stop sounding like an empty head.

ASUU is fighting over an agreement they had with government since 2009. Thats eleven years ago and you are here disgracing yourself.

Why has FG not taken them to court since how many times they have gone on strike over these years?

FG knows that the 2009 agreement and the memorandum of understanding they had with ASUU in 2013 and 2017, together with the memorandum of action of 2019 are all on paper and duely signed by both parties.

With such documents how can FG win them?

instead of you to blame the government for failing to keep the various agreements they entered into with ASUU you are here messing yourself up.

you think they go to have beer palour discussion with FG. Park one corner pls.
Without denying the fact that our politicians are very corrupt, I will categorically state that most agreements they enter with ASUU was done without due consultation and with self serving objectives. They usually rush into such agreements to hide their own corruption while boosting Thier political prospects. Now ASUU understands this fact about our useless politicians hence they capitalise on it to make ridiculous and bogus demands, which they would subsequently hold the govt to and start armtwisting them to get make a point. This is equally and specifically a very corrupt and unpatriotic thing to do. 2 wrongs do not make a right.
zikter:
If only you can channel this your zealous energy in fighting your politicians that corruptly enriched themselves, are still enriching themselves and wii continue enriching themselves in billions of dollars of Nigerian money, Nigeria will be better. How much is budgeted for the whole education sector in the first place? And what project do you think lecturers undertake that they embezzle money? Or how much do you think they get from students compare to your senator that even refused to let you know how much he collects? Moreso what is the useless government doing about the alleged corrupt lecturers, considering that government owns EFCC, ICPC, NUC etc?
Read the above to get my perspective. The summary is that ASUU corruption is not the type where u can charge them to court since their is no provision for such in the criminal code. It is more moral than criminal. (It is like a lawyer's corruption. He is corrupt in such a way that his actions can cause grievious harm to his opponent and others, yet he is, strictly speaking, still operating within the ambits of the law.) This is just as bad as criminal corruption, in my opinion.
When I say ASUU is corrupt, I am not even referring to their dealings with students. That one is another matter altogether.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by frog12: 4:56am On Nov 22
really CONFUSED government. take one position and stay with it. enroll in IPPIS or go to the highway. this hybrid platform is where they will siphon money off.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by OtunbaDayo: 6:02am On Nov 22
Yenefer:
Good. ASUU are just corrupt union after there own pocket and interest. If not Buhari is soft on citizens and converted democrat. i would have recommend he starts using gestapo style on ASUU leadership.


I am telling you my brother
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by zikter(m): 7:12am On Nov 22
obstead200:

Without denying the fact that our politicians are very corrupt, I will categorically state that most agreements they enter with ASUU was done without due consultation and with self serving objectives. They usually rush into such agreements to hide their own corruption while boosting Thier political prospects. Now ASUU understands this fact about our useless politicians hence they capitalise on it to make ridiculous and bogus demands, which they would subsequently hold the govt to and start armtwisting them to get make a point. This is equally and specifically a very corrupt and unpatriotic thing to do. 2 wrongs do not make a right.

Read the above to get my perspective. The summary is that ASUU corruption is not the type where u can charge them to court since their is no provision for such in the criminal code. It is more moral than criminal. (It is like a lawyer's corruption. He is corrupt in such a way that his actions can cause grievious harm to his opponent and others, yet he is, strictly speaking, still operating within the ambits of the law.) This is just as bad as criminal corruption, in my opinion.
When I say ASUU is corrupt, I am not even referring to their dealings with students. That one is another matter altogether.
You are still not making a clear and coherent point here. What is morally wrong about revitalisation fund for universities when we all know they are grossly underfunded? What is wrong about visitation panels to universities to assess their decayed infrastructures and other needs? What is wrong in trying to correct the proliferation of state universities while the established ones are not faring better than advance secondary schools? What about earned allowances? What is wrong about paying you your allowances you earned? Is not as if government is denying they earned it, they are outrightly owing them the allowances. Many times, people are bias towards ASUU for no just cause. You are accusing them of moral corruption but you cannot exactly fault them correctly on all there demands to government. Let us be objective here for once

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Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by Premiumwriter: 7:44am On Nov 22
Yenefer:
Good. ASUU are just corrupt union after there own pocket and interest. If not Buhari is soft on citizens and converted democrat. i would have recommend he starts using gestapo style on ASUU leadership.
stop saying rubbish
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by Updating9JA: 8:50am On Nov 22
slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
Isoright.....
We know the story
TD Jakes Sermons
Las last ehnn
Them go tell ASUU say UTAS platform which ASUU want make government take dey pay them fail integrity test and cyber security test

Nigerian Government get better tools and formats to scam people
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by EAKeffective: 10:11am On Nov 22
Why this back and forth in this negotiations? Both ASUU and government are not considerate to the plight of students, this unnecessary delays should not deny student of their right to NYSC
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by obstead200(m): 10:52am On Nov 22
zikter:
You are still not making a clear and coherent point here. What is morally wrong about revitalisation fund for universities when we all know they are grossly underfunded? What is wrong about visitation panels to universities to assess their decayed infrastructures and other needs? What is wrong in trying to correct the proliferation of state universities while the established ones are not faring better than advance secondary schools? What about earned allowances? What is wrong about paying you your allowances you earned? Is not as if government is denying they earned it, they are outrightly owing them the allowances. Many times, people are bias towards ASUU for no just cause. You are accusing them of moral corruption but you cannot exactly fault them correctly on all there demands to government. Let us be objective here for once
oga, quote me anywhere. 80% of whatever revitalisation funds released by the govt will end directly in the pockets of the lecturers. They will blackmail, harass and arm twist the VCs and the bursar's until this is done.

I have seen it happen several times.

Forget stories ASUU uses to screen their true intentions. The only thing they ALWAYS want is more money for Thier own pockets. Every other thing does not count for them.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by obstead200(m): 12:10pm On Nov 22
weyreypey:

We're going to get our dues as lecturers. If you want good quality education... fight for it.
oga, am sorry to tell u this.
But with people like u, quality education is a mirage, even if u are to be given 5 times Ur present salary. We know ur type, always running after union politics and the perks that come with it, rather than conscentrate on your job. We know Ur type, always seeking for one juicy appointment or the other in the institution, none of which u have the capacity to discharge the duties properly. Always seeking for appointment
as a part time/adjunct lecturer in 100 universities, most of which u won't even be able to visit 2 times in a whole semester. Ur type sees everything as an avenue for enriching urself and playing out Ur political fantasies.
I have a lot of them in my organisation, when the time for appraisal comes, they will start running around looking for lecturers who will add them as co-authors to their journals. They will start looking for other people's research work to craftily plagiarise as their own. They are never able to produce a quality research paper.
It is your type that will blackmail the VC and governing council until they give u a promotion u don't deserve, u will use the union and the threat of strike to force them into doing Ur bidding of u can
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by weyreypey: 12:55pm On Nov 22
obstead200:
oga, am sorry to tell u this.
But with people like u, quality education is a mirage, even if u are to be given 5 times Ur present salary. We know ur type, always running after union politics and the perks that come with it, rather than conscentrate on your job. We know Ur type, always seeking for one juicy appointment or the other in the institution, none of which u have the capacity to discharge the duties properly. Always seeking for appointment
as a part time/adjunct lecturer in 100 universities, most of which u won't even be able to visit 2 times in a whole semester. Ur type sees everything as an avenue for enriching urself and playing out Ur political fantasies.
I have a lot of them in my organisation, when the time for appraisal comes, they will start running around looking for lecturers who will add them as co-authors to their journals. They will start looking for other people's research work to craftily plagiarise as their own. They are never able to produce a quality research paper.
It is your type that will blackmail the VC and governing council until they give u a promotion u don't deserve, u will use the union and the threat of strike to force them into doing Ur bidding of u can
Interesting read. Your university deserves to be locked up.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by zikter(m): 4:33pm On Nov 22
obstead200:
oga, quote me anywhere. 80% of whatever revitalisation funds released by the govt will end directly in the pockets of the lecturers. They will blackmail, harass and arm twist the VCs and the bursar's until this is done.

I have seen it happen several times.

Forget stories ASUU uses to screen their true intentions. The only thing they ALWAYS want is more money for Thier own pockets. Every other thing does not count for them.
I don't agree with you on this. I did a five year course in a public University and I understand what goes on. Lecturers will not harass the bursar or VC on anything. Mostly, the administrative staff comprising the VC and Bursar are the ones implicated in corruption cases. That aside, if ASUU harasses them on anything, don't they have channels to report it. For crying out loud, the NUC, ICPC and EFCC are there. How will the money get to ASUU? How much does ASUU get from, example TETFUND that has done at least some infrastructures on the campuses? If an incompetent VC is not capable of managing the funds given to his university, he should take the blame himself. Nobody should use ASUU as a scapegoat. And if the government cannot monitor these funds through their numerous anti corruption bodies, then government itself should not blame any one. As far as I am concerned, everything stops on the government table. Let them properly fund the universities, built infrastructures, pay lecturers well and stop grandstanding. Look at the countries you make reference to even in Africa and compared their education sponsorship with ours and you will understand.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by obstead200(m): 5:59am On Nov 23
zikter:
I don't agree with you on this. I did a five year course in a public University and I understand what goes on. Lecturers will not harass the bursar or VC on anything. Mostly, the administrative staff comprising the VC and Bursar are the ones implicated in corruption cases. That aside, if ASUU harasses them on anything, don't they have channels to report it. For crying out loud, the NUC, ICPC and EFCC are there. How will the money get to ASUU? How much does ASUU get from, example TETFUND that has done at least some infrastructures on the campuses? If an incompetent VC is not capable of managing the funds given to his university, he should take the blame himself. Nobody should use ASUU as a scapegoat. And if the government cannot monitor these funds through their numerous anti corruption bodies, then government itself should not blame any one. As far as I am concerned, everything stops on the government table. Let them properly fund the universities, built infrastructures, pay lecturers well and stop grandstanding. Look at the countries you make reference to even in Africa and compared their education sponsorship with ours and you will understand.
u did a 5 years course....as a student.

I have worked in the system, in a very strategic position that placed me very close to the school management. I think I should know better.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by zikter(m): 9:47am On Nov 23
obstead200:
u did a 5 years course....as a student.

I have worked in the system, in a very strategic position that placed me very close to the school management. I think I should know better.
But there is no evidence to that. How many lecturers has been dragged by anti corruption agencies for mismanagement of University funds? These funds are never under their direct control hence you cannot hold them responsible. That is the more reason why what you are saying here is at the best in the realm of speculation and can hardly be substantiated. The revitalisation funds will never come under the control of ASUU so I wonder how they will corner it

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Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by Boxer007(m): 11:38pm On Nov 23
tunize:

You very correct cos with the Federal government scheme of payment majority of the loop holes of the lecturers receiving double pay is going to be blown to the air. ASUU is so corrupt making it seem like they're fighting for for the welfare of quality education, while at the long-run they're fighting on their own personal interest. Las Las na students i dey pity for shall

hello beautiful man, you look tired. Do u fancy a massage?
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by tunize(m): 11:43pm On Nov 23
Boxer007:


hello beautiful man, you look tired. Do u fancy a massage?
Orishirishi something bros which now shuu?
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by Boxer007(m): 11:58pm On Nov 23
tunize:

Orishirishi something bros which now shuu?

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Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by tunize(m): 7:12am On Nov 24
Boxer007:


darlin you have beautiful lip, beaitiful eye, beautiful nose, beautiful mouth. can you kiss good and where are u located? I want come get you so we play
Bros respect urself shuuu. I'd appreciate it if you stop sending nessages i'm not interested in your whatever you want i hope we good? Thank you! As i respect your opinion bros abeg respect my own make we nor get issue.
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by Boxer007(m): 11:02am On Nov 24
tunize:

Bros respect urself shuuu. I'd appreciate it if you stop sending nessages i'm not interested in your whatever you want i hope we good? Thank you! As i respect your opinion bros abeg respect my own make we nor get issue.

Darlin I apologise. Did I say something wrong? I simply wanted to get to know you. Can we go out for a drink today and discuss your anger? Am a gentle being my dear. How are you today and do u fancy a drink? Darlin Do you like beer?
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by Boxer007(m): 11:03am On Nov 24
tunize:

Bros respect urself shuuu. I'd appreciate it if you stop sending nessages i'm not interested in your whatever you want i hope we good? Thank you! As i respect your opinion bros abeg respect my own make we nor get issue.

If I may ask, darlin whatvdo u mean by my what ever? Please clarify, dear?
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by tunize(m): 11:27am On Nov 24
Boxer007:


If I may ask, darlin whatvdo u mean by my what ever? Please clarify, dear?
Bros being gay or whatever is your own personal decision and i respect it so much no shaking but you writing jargons to me dey vex me! I believe i don talk to you calmly you nor wan rest abi? If it was to be in reality after i must have warned you bros i for don burst your head since because you nor wan hear word. Please i would appreciate it so much if you stop writing me cheers!!!

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Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by obstead200(m): 12:26pm On Nov 24
zikter:
But there is no evidence to that. How many lecturers has been dragged by anti corruption agencies for mismanagement of University funds? These funds are never under their direct control hence you cannot hold them responsible. That is the more reason why what you are saying here is at the best in the realm of speculation and can hardly be substantiated. The revitalisation funds will never come under the control of ASUU so I wonder how they will corner it
it's clear u still don't understand me. Make we just leave the matter
Re: Strike: We Haven’t Exempted ASUU From IPPIS – FG by Boxer007(m): 12:41pm On Nov 24
tunize:

Bros being gay or whatever is your own personal decision and i respect it so much no shaking but you writing jargons to me dey vex me! I believe i don talk to you calmly you nor wan rest abi? If it was to be in reality after i must have warned you bros i for don burst your head since because you nor wan hear word. Please i would appreciate it so much if you stop writing me cheers!!!

my brother, i want u as my babe simply because i believe you will look good in red lipstick & a dress. I want borisky jelous of you darlin. you will not burst my head because u not a voilent man my dear, u will not even hurt a fly. darlin women are useless creatures and we do not need them. what women can do, darlin u can do better: missionary, doggy, standing, basooka, I really want us to meet up for a drink & i will like u to wear a nice pink dress. Can we link as gentlemen and darlin, could u do that for me? please?

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