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Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by PresidentAtiku(m): 8:31pm On Nov 30, 2020
omenka:
It is terrible. I feel they really can but sabotours within who are profiting immensely from the persistent war are making that impossible. They do so by ensuring soldiers dont get their dues, thereby destroying their morale, and also practically financing the terrorists directly.

This war of attrition might eventually consume this country in its entirety because the economic burden wrought by it is too great.
see them. Zombie commanders... Failures by default. Factory fitted hardship merchants. Recession specialists. SAI BARBER

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Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by ZKOSOSO(m): 8:32pm On Nov 30, 2020
Buhari no go gree as the owner of the Bokoharam company
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Sheriman(m): 8:32pm On Nov 30, 2020
Unfortunately Buhari wouldn't let that possible
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Dantee005(m): 8:33pm On Nov 30, 2020
PhiliptheArab:


There are no saboteurs sabotaging the Boko Haram war.

Unconventional warfare is warfare that is not designed to be won, or lost. It is designed to scare and frighten your enemy so that the enemy gives up. It doesn't matter how many Bokoist die, or how many battles the Nigerian army wins, so long as Boko can outlast the NA, they have won.
Or why do you think it took decades for the British Army to fight the IRA in Northern Ireland? And that war did not end on the field...it ended with a peace treaty.
How about the Americans in Afghanistan and before then Vietnam? The Soviets in Afghanistan too? The US and the Soviets lost out both in Vietnam and Afghanistan not because of sabotuers, or because of 'corruption'..they infact won most major battles, but because the Vietnamese revolutionaries and the Afghan muhajideen were ready to outlast them.It didn't matter how many times they lost..they always came back for more and more...and were ready to play by no rules....

That's how guriella war works. IF YOU DON'T LOSE, YOU WIN.'. Right now across the world in countries from the Phillipines to Colombia, there are insurgenices that have been lasting for over 3-4 decades.

That's why beating Boko is going to take a long time. (and why I am reluctant to bash both this current government and the previous one for 'failing' to beat Boko.Doing so in a way is a failure to understand guriella warfare).

The mercs we used last time against Boko came from South Africa. South Africa under Arphateid had probably the best COIN forces battliing freedom fioghters in Angola, Namibia and South Africa. The Rhodesians had the best counter-insurgency unit of the 1970's (the infamous Selous Scouts) fighting ZANLA troops. And despite that...the SA bush war and the Rhodesian bush war were not ended on the battle field.

We beat Boko when they fought conventionally. It is the old methods of 'strike and run' that are more difficult to beat.



I doff my hat for you.. it's rare to come across a fellow lover of military history like my self... U have said it all many people do not seem to understand the tactics of guerilla warfare especially in a terrain as rough as the north....

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Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by fola044: 8:34pm On Nov 30, 2020
Governor Zulum is the only Northern State governor reasoning positively but which his ideas, visions and missions won't be considered by those earning and making their blood money from the dreaded Boko Haram terrorists.....Allah barka lafia da duniya da Aljannah , mutum grigi
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Nato008(m): 8:35pm On Nov 30, 2020
PhiliptheArab:


There are no saboteurs sabotaging the Boko Haram war.

Unconventional warfare is warfare that is not designed to be won, or lost. It is designed to scare and frighten your enemy so that the enemy gives up. It doesn't matter how many Bokoist die, or how many battles the Nigerian army wins, so long as Boko can outlast the NA, they have won.

Or why do you think it took decades for the British Army to fight the IRA in Northern Ireland? And that war did not end on the field...it ended with a peace treaty.
How about the Americans in Afghanistan and before then Vietnam? The Soviets in Afghanistan too? The US and the Soviets lost out both in Vietnam and Afghanistan not because of sabotuers, or because of 'corruption'..they infact won most major battles, but because the Vietnamese revolutionaries and the Afghan muhajideen were ready to outlast them.It didn't matter how many times they lost..they always came back for more and more...and were ready to play by no rules....

That's how guriella war works. IF YOU DON'T LOSE, YOU WIN.'. Right now across the world in countries from the Phillipines to Colombia, there are insurgenices that have been lasting for over 3-4 decades.

That's why beating Boko is going to take a long time. (and why I am reluctant to bash both this current government and the previous one for 'failing' to beat Boko.Doing so in a way is a failure to understand guriella warfare).

The mercs we used last time against Boko came from South Africa. South Africa under Arphateid had probably the best COIN forces battliing freedom fioghters in Angola, Namibia and South Africa. The Rhodesians had the best counter-insurgency unit of the 1970's (the infamous Selous Scouts) fighting ZANLA troops. And despite that...the SA bush war and the Rhodesian bush war were not ended on the battle field.

We beat Boko when they fought conventionally. It is the old methods of 'strike and run' that are more difficult to beat.



i agree with u...but intelligence gathering should top that list....the use of drones and other high tech devices....the NA is too backwards...

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Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Judolisco(m): 8:35pm On Nov 30, 2020
D Nigerian army have been going for successful peace keeping missions across Africa why can't we keep peace in our own backyard
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by AwesomeStormy00(m): 8:36pm On Nov 30, 2020
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Angelfrost(m): 8:36pm On Nov 30, 2020
Neddstark:


You are learned.

Not really!!!... He is trying too hard to make Nigeria's insecurity issue seem far more complicated than it truly is. This is irritating and downright annoying.

Some of us just enjoy drawing pointless analogies especially when it comes to justifying incompetence. We should learn to call a spade what it truly is.

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Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by phorget(m): 8:37pm On Nov 30, 2020
I can remember what happened in a place called "Odi", Obasanjo did them shege that year.

How about the government bombing the whole region? They are all terrorists!
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by SavageMaster: 8:38pm On Nov 30, 2020
JeffreyD1:
That clone in aso rock won't listen


I was in a ride with an Army Captain
He told me that buhari has failed
You don't keep service chiefs for 5 years


He is also clueless as to who to replace them with
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by crazycrypto710: 8:38pm On Nov 30, 2020
Funny some elements in the government/military might not want that to happen, it's a cashcow for them amongst other factors, please let us call a spade, a spade.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by phorget(m): 8:38pm On Nov 30, 2020
Judolisco:
D Nigerian army have been going for successful peace keeping missions across Africa why can't we keep peace in our own backyard


"Lantern can't see it underneath"

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Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by blacknp(m): 8:39pm On Nov 30, 2020
dynicks:
Jonathan tried accessing that angle, they referred to him as daft and baptised him with all sort of derogatory names.....Today , they are equally heading back to eat their dungs....

Until people of the north decides to tackle this menace head on, I see no end to its existence...!

Meanwhile buhari won't wanna agree to such suggestion cus he still got pride in himself as the GCFR....
Buhari, always Buhari, this is a democracy we claim we are practicing, where is the National Assembly Of The People? They can override the President if they want to, the people are just mumus, always looking for someone else to blame for their own shortcomings.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Nobody: 8:40pm On Nov 30, 2020
Me I am always moving closer to the Southern Border...
I have already started processing my change of name...
Until we learn to love others instead of thinking with our bigoted minds,the North will continue in this path of self destruct...nonsense.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by 4gunners(m): 8:40pm On Nov 30, 2020
It is difficult when you have a leader who is paranoid with power. He is very intransigent and doesn’t believe any other person has his interest at heart.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by blacknp(m): 8:41pm On Nov 30, 2020
crazycrypto710:
Funny some elements in the government/military might not want that to happen, it's a cashcow for them amongst other factors, please let us call a spade, a spade.
A conspiracy theory, explain how it is a cash cow?
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Agbegbaorogboye: 8:41pm On Nov 30, 2020
Blue3k:


Instead of hiring mercinaries arm and defend yourselves. Demand the FG to loosen up gun laws legalizing semi automatic weapons. The government already allows hunters to assist in the fight with boko haram. There's many better options before hiring mercs. It's funny Jonathan's ideas are being recycled.

Compare the guns hunters and bandits are armed with and ask does it make sense? Why should we be sheep waiting to be slaughtered. These criminals arent brave a few brave men to will send them running for their lives. They like easy targets who dont shoot back. I'll leave yall with nice Machiavelli quotes.
Machiavelli's words are not gospel. He was talking about fighting to defend a kingdom (The Prince) not ending an insurgency (internal war) anyway so the context is different.
Moreso the same Machiavelli was defeated by mercenaries so I don't think whatever he said about them should be taken seriously
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Sterope(f): 8:43pm On Nov 30, 2020
They could use that money to buy proper arms and gear for our military.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by blacknp(m): 8:43pm On Nov 30, 2020
Baawahala:
Me I am always moving closer to the Southern Border...
I have already started processing my change of name...
Until we learn to love others instead of thinking with our bigoted minds,the North will continue in this path of self destruct...nonsense.
People like you are the problems of Nigeria, you have nothing to offer.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Willie2015: 8:44pm On Nov 30, 2020
Blue3k:


Instead of hiring mercinaries arm and defend yourselves. Demand the FG to loosen up gun laws legalizing semi automatic weapons. The government already allows hunters to assist in the fight with boko haram. There's many better options before hiring mercs. It's funny Jonathan's ideas are being recycled.

Compare the guns hunters and bandits are armed with and ask does it make sense? Why should we be sheep waiting to be slaughtered. These criminals arent brave a few brave men to will send them running for their lives. They like easy targets who dont shoot back. I'll leave yall with nice Machiavelli quotes.

You know nothing...
Go and read about those mercenaries...
They trained the Nig 72 Mobile Strike Force .....
On modern terrorist and guerilla warfare.....
Highly effective and battle hardened.....
Came with their own guns, helicopters....& Modern weapons..
They fight in the day and at nite ......
No difference...
With the concept of relentless pursuit by Eeben Barlow....
Hunters for where ...Haba

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Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by chaloskyx: 8:44pm On Nov 30, 2020
THEN THOSE MECENERIES WOULD TAKE ARMS AND TURN AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT RIGHT? THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER TERRORIST ORGANISATION YOU PEOPLE ARE MAD WHAT HAPPENED WITH RECRUTING PPL INTO THE NIGERIAN ARMY OR MAKE UP A SPECIAL ANTITERRORIST ARMY UNIT EHEN TELL ME?
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Okuda(m): 8:46pm On Nov 30, 2020
the only thing that can kill ideology is vision. The Nigeria Government does not have Vision.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Agbegbaorogboye: 8:49pm On Nov 30, 2020
Dantee005:
I doff my hat for you.. it's rare to come across a fellow lover of military history like my self... U have said it all many people do not seem to understand the tactics of guerilla warfare especially in a terrain as rough as the north....
That excuse of rough terrain is lame. Borno is largely lowland and plain though massive but not the most massive. Niger is. And Niger is much rougher so if our army complains of Borno what will they say of Niger.
The problem is more political than strategic. The old man at the helm is not so keen on killing off everything boko. The Nigerian army is not so skilled in containment tactics. The end result is one step forward to steps back. If the actors want BH to end it will.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by samdunzo: 8:49pm On Nov 30, 2020
backbone503:


Apart from the fight largely been political and a huge source of income to some, the major underlining reason it has lingered is because of immense sabotage on the part of the military.

See, no plan for any tactical manoeuvre survives contact with the opponent. BH is always in the know. The military and intelligence officers don't know who/which Intel to trust. BH has infiltrated real deep into the fabrics of the north.

Going forward, Mercenaries will be a far better option. Though, those feeding fat from this protracted war will never allow this.

Exactly. Everyone should know that BH, which actually was quite peaceful when it started, was hijacked by northern politicians who wanted to stay relevant. Now, its coming back to bite them big time
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Pharaoh4rin(m): 8:52pm On Nov 30, 2020
PhiliptheArab:


There are no saboteurs sabotaging the Boko Haram war.

Unconventional warfare is warfare that is not designed to be won, or lost. It is designed to scare and frighten your enemy so that the enemy gives up. It doesn't matter how many Bokoist die, or how many battles the Nigerian army wins, so long as Boko can outlast the NA, they have won.

Or why do you think it took decades for the British Army to fight the IRA in Northern Ireland? And that war did not end on the field...it ended with a peace treaty.
How about the Americans in Afghanistan and before then Vietnam? The Soviets in Afghanistan too? The US and the Soviets lost out both in Vietnam and Afghanistan not because of sabotuers, or because of 'corruption'..they infact won most major battles, but because the Vietnamese revolutionaries and the Afghan muhajideen were ready to outlast them.It didn't matter how many times they lost..they always came back for more and more...and were ready to play by no rules....

That's how guriella war works. IF YOU DON'T LOSE, YOU WIN.'. Right now across the world in countries from the Phillipines to Colombia, there are insurgenices that have been lasting for over 3-4 decades.

That's why beating Boko is going to take a long time. (and why I am reluctant to bash both this current government and the previous one for 'failing' to beat Boko.Doing so in a way is a failure to understand guriella warfare).

The mercs we used last time against Boko came from South Africa. South Africa under Arphateid had probably the best COIN forces battliing freedom fioghters in Angola, Namibia and South Africa. The Rhodesians had the best counter-insurgency unit of the 1970's (the infamous Selous Scouts) fighting ZANLA troops. And despite that...the SA bush war and the Rhodesian bush war were not ended on the battle field.

We beat Boko when they fought conventionally. It is the old methods of 'strike and run' that are more difficult to beat.



Nice one bro. That's quite a deep analysis you have there.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by samdunzo: 8:52pm On Nov 30, 2020
phorget:
I can remember what happened in a place called "Odi", Obasanjo did them shege that year.

How about the government bombing the whole region? They are all terrorists!

"An attack on BH is an attack on the North." That's your answer. Honestly, many of the northern masses sympathize with what BH stands for, just that they became too violent.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Neddstark: 8:54pm On Nov 30, 2020
Angelfrost:


Not really!!!... He is trying too hard to make Nigeria's insecurity issue seem far more complicated than it truly is. This is irritating and downright annoying.

Some of us just enjoying drawing pointless analogies especially when it comes to justifying incompetence. We should learn to call a spade what it truly is.


As much as corruption and some other vices are preventing Nigeria from winning this war, you need not to make the first mistake of under estimating the enemy. One on one, Boko Haram cannot fight the Nigerian army. That is why they resort to guerilla warfare and ambushes. When the heat is on, these guys go into hibernation then come out when defenses are relaxed. That has been their strategy. Seems working so far.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Nobody: 8:56pm On Nov 30, 2020
blacknp:
People like you are the problems of Nigeria, you have nothing to offer.
Nah,what should I offer when we have people like you who are very stupid and unreasonable,almost in every household,making the right thinking minds like me feel choked by your erratic deposition.
Of course I know I will catch you in the web,which attracts demented minds like yours.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Sufisunni: 8:58pm On Nov 30, 2020
One of our recommendations as possible solutions to end the insurgency is the immediate recruitment of our youths into military and paramilitary services to complement the efforts of the Nigerian forces,” he said.

“Our second recommendation is to engage the services of our immediate neighbours, especially the government of Chad, Cameroon and Niger Republic, in clearing the remnants of Boko Haram hiding in the shores of the Lake Chad.

“Our third recommendation is for him to engage the services of the mercenaries to clear the entire Sambisa forest.

“Our fourth recommendation is for him to provide the police and the military, with armed resistant armoured personnel carriers and other related equipment.
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by Kokaine(m): 9:01pm On Nov 30, 2020
Re: Governor Zulum Recommends the Use of Mercenaries to Defeat Boko Haram. by bigiyaro(m): 9:02pm On Nov 30, 2020
Mr governor, pls take it easy o, you are toying with some ruthless criminals in govt o

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