LegendHero:


Let’s see how it goes with the APC register.

One thing I’ve learnt is not to write Bola Tinubu off as a strategist.

But I also don’t like speculations, let’s see how the 2023 game will play out.

Gracias!

Sure, to be honest, Tinubu is the most influential politician from Southern Nigeria and he is also a very shrewd man. However, someone like him can only thrive in SW and parts of North, especially in places that practice monarchy, but such person can't thrive in Igboland because we are republicans by nature whereby everyone believes he is as good as anyone else, so anyone that wants to play god or have emperor status will face mass action or gang up. That was exactly what happened to Rochas when he tried such in Imo State.

The time period in question does not favour Tinubu. Firstly, permutations and every other indices based on fairness and equity favours SE in 2023. Nigeria is grievously tottering on the brink of collapse and that's why the North has no choice but to concede to South regardless of how tempting it may be for them to continue ruling.

Secondly, allowing South to succeed Buhari only for SW to clinch it makes no sense considering that SW has been in the presidency as much as NW since 1999. So, the logical question is, why deny the NW that stands a very good chance an opportunity to succeed Buhari only to hand over to another region that has ruled as much as them?

Thirdly, Tinubu's personality is also a huge liability to him. The North will never support a Southern politician that is crafty and independent minded. They regretted their support for Obasanjo and would never want a repeat of that. So,they will want a personality like Osinbajo or even Fayemi who they can always influence than a Tinubu that will easily outmaneuver them once he wins.

Lastly, Tinubu is a Muslim. Given him the ticket will mean merging him with a Northern Christian. The North has never hidden their disdain for Christianity. And such a person can only come from the Middle belt, a region they don't really see as part of them in the real sense. You may argue that Abiola who was a Muslim equally picked another Muslim from the North as running mate, however you must understand that Nigeria of today is not the same as Nigeria of 1993.

Misterdhee1:

You're swimming in a self-imposed river of ignorance. Umahi would be used and dumped like Akpabio. By 2022, no one would even hear his name anymore because he simply doesn't have any structure outside his small ebonyi state. You can write today's date down. The only southern politician that has the clout and connection to fight those northern cabals back to back is Tinubu. They all understand this and that's the basis for the alleged gang-up. And peradventure they foolishly test their might and give Umahi the ticket (which won't even happen), then swest will be ready to play the spoiler game for apc. Moroever, pdp will easily win against an apc igbo candidate, even in SE. So rather than deceiving yourself and believing an hausa and Yoruba-Muslim party go hand its ticket to an igbo man, you're better off believing the world will expire before 2023.

The problem with you type is that you know next to nothing about politics but instead of you to listen and gain knowledge, you will talking trash based on emotions and wishful thinking. I don't even know where to start in educating you because you're very far gone in ignorance.

I will leave you with these few points to note:
1. In the grand scheme of things, there is really no difference between PDP and APC, those politicians are all friends and they visit each other. APC will not hand over to a Southerner if they know PDP is going to field a Northerner, except the North wants to grab power back. Northern leaders will equally influence their people in PDP to ensure that only a Southerner emerges in PDP and the cabals in Buhari's government will go the extra mile to make sure of that.

2. Tinubu's strength starts from Lagos and ends in Osun. Tinubu can and will be silenced with ease. Why do you think he has kept quiet despite all the ill-treatments they've been meting out on him?

3. The state of a candidate does not matter when it comes to selection of candidates during primaries. Nigeria has 36 states and the FCT, so even if your state has 44 LGAs like Kano, it won't make any significant difference. Umahi may or may not clinch APC ticket but there are other Igbos in APC that would. SW can't play any spoiler. Even if the SW decides to vote for PDP or any other party, it won't make much difference against the 5 other regions. You guys voted for Olu Falae in 1999 but other Nigerians voted for Obasanjo and he won.
APC has two states in the SE and PDP has two, with sentiments against PDP at an all time high in the SE yet you feel Igbos will just vote PDP?

BastardWike:


The problem with you type is that you know next to nothing about politics but instead of you to listen and gain knowledge, you will talking trash based on emotions and wishful thinking. I don't even know where to start in educating you because you're very far gone in ignorance.

I will leave you with these few points to note:
1. In the grand scheme of things, there is really no difference between PDP and APC, those politicians are all friends and they visit each other. APC will not hand over to a Southerner if they know PDP is going to field a Northerner, except the North wants to grab power back. Northern leaders will equally influence their people in PDP to ensure that only a Southerner emerges in PDP and the cabals in Buhari's government will go the extra mile to make sure of that.

2. Tinubu's strength starts from Lagos and ends in Osun. Tinubu can and will be silenced with ease. Why do you think he has kept quiet despite all the ill-treatments they've been meting out on him?

3. The state of a candidate does not matter when it comes to selection of candidates during primaries. Nigeria has 36 states and the FCT, so even if your state has 44 LGAs like Kano, it won't make any significant difference. Umahi may or may not clinch APC ticket but there are other Igbos in APC that would. SW can't play any spoiler. Even if the SW decides to vote for PDP or any other party, it won't make much difference against the 5 other regions. You guys voted for Olu Falae in 1999 but other Nigerians voted for Obasanjo and he won.
APC has two states in the SE and PDP has two, with sentiments against PDP at an all time high in the SE yet you feel Igbos will just vote PDP?

LOL, you know so much yet your tribe hasn't produced even a VP since 1999. Like I said, keep swimming in the river of self-ignorance. The fact that Tinubu's influence starts in Lagos and ends in Osun makes him a force to reckon with. Tell us one igbo politician that has same level of clout and influence even across the igbo region. Outside Buhari, Tinubu is the only politician that commands a wide faithful following. Igbos are pdp faithfuls, I don't expect you to agree with that. You can ask Jonathan for expo though.


In the scale of political discourse, it's NW/SW/NE that matters in Nigeria. So if apc picks an igbo man, SW can easily play the spoiler because an average hausa man would always have a level of distrust towards an igbo man given the politics that played out in the first republic. Moroever, the level of hates igbos have dished out towards fulanis since Buhari came into power makes an igbo presidency an utopia at best. SE will always be used to make up the number - how many una even be? Hausas and yorubas have higher numbers and are by far more organized than your tribe scattered all around. You can argue as you want - but the 5 percenter talk won't go away in a jiffy.

Misterdhee1:

LOL, you know so much yet your tribe hasn't produced even a VP since 1999. Like I said, keep swimming in the river of self-ignorance. The fact that Tinubu's influence starts in Lagos and ends in Osun makes him a force to reckon with. Tell us one igbo politician that has same level of clout and influence even across the igbo region. Outside Buhari, Tinubu is the only politician that commands a wide faithful following. Igbos are pdp faithfuls, I don't expect you to agree with that. You can ask Jonathan for expo though.


In the scale of political discourse, it's NW/SW/NE that matters in Nigeria. So if apc picks an igbo man, SW can easily play the spoiler because an average hausa man would always have a level of distrust towards an igbo man given the politics that played out in the first republic. Moroever, the level of hates igbos have dished out towards fulanis since Buhari came into power makes an igbo presidency an utopia at best. SE will always be used to make up the number - how many una even be? Hausas and yorubas have higher numbers and are by far more organized than your tribe scattered all around. You can argue as you want - but the 5 percenter talk won't go away in a jiffy.

You're too ethnocentric-minded to reason independently without bias. I know your type and it will be totally useless trying to make you reason objectively because your ethnocentrism will always override common sense.

Good bye!

BastardWike:


You're too ethnocentric-minded to reason independently without bias. I know your type and it will be totally useless trying to make you reason objectively because your ethnocentrism will always override common sense.

Good bye!

Lmao. Good riddance

sixtus3606:

You have spoken well. However, I'd like you to pinpoint the mistakes which Zik and the likes made in the early days. Thank you.

Zik was aware of the first coup and did nothing to try to stop it. Instead, he went on an extended trip outside the country. He didn’t warn the other leaders who were targeted for assassination by the coupists. He only cared about saving his own skin. One of the coupists, Ifeajuna, was a ‘cousin’ to Zik and probably warned him.

Nzeogwu was a heartless beast who thought his military training gave him the right to execute the elected leaders of the land and the wisdom to select a better leader for the country. He personally killed three of the security guards at Ahmadu Bello’s house, shot war weapons at the house, setting the roof on fire, shot dead a fellow coupist who hesitated to follow his murderous orders, shot at women and children running away from the house, and shot the Sardauna dead along with his wife. The plan was to arrest the leaders and kill them if they resisted, but Nzeogwu wanted them dead, so he killed them.

When Nzeogwu’s coup “failed”, General Aguiyi-Ironsi immediately conducted his own coup by forcing the civilian leaders who were supposed to take over to hand over power to him instead. Our democracy would have survived if he stood by the government and allowed the democratic leaders next in line to the those murdered to rule, but he did not. He captured the coupists who had murdered numerous leaders but didn’t put them on trial. He then created a decree that would concentrate power in his hands, which infuriated the north.

Igbo have suffered a lot in this country. Thousands of Igbos were killed in the north in 1966, and many more have been killed in religious riots since. 2 million civilians died in the civil war. Sadly, the Igbo men above contributed greatly to their troubles.

I am reluctant to add Ojukwu to this list. With the massive killing of Igbos, their return to the South East, and the failure of Gowon to respect the terms of the Aburi accord, his decision to secede was understandable and popular. However, it was a mistake. Once Ojukwu realized that he could no longer feed his people, he should have negotiated terms of surrender, but he waited until 2 million civilians had died.

Seun:

Zik was aware of the first coup and did nothing to try to stop it. Instead, he went on an extended trip outside the country. He didn’t warn the other leaders who were targeted for assassination by the coupists. He only cared about saving his own skin. One of the coupists, Ifeajuna, was a ‘cousin’ to Zik and probably warned him.

Nzeogwu was a heartless beast who thought his military training gave him the right to execute the elected leaders of the land and the wisdom to select a better leader for the country. He personally killed three of the security guards at Ahmadu Bello’s house, shot war weapons at the house, setting the roof on fire, shot dead a fellow coupist who hesitated to follow his murderous orders, shot at women and children running away from the house, and shot the Sardauna dead along with his wife. The plan was to arrest the leaders and kill them if they resisted, but Nzeogwu wanted them dead, so he killed them.

When Nzeogwu’s coup “failed”, General Aguiyi-Ironsi immediately conducted his own coup by forcing the civilian leaders who were supposed to take over to hand over power to him instead. Our democracy would have survived if he stood by the government and allowed the democratic leaders next in line to the those murdered to rule, but he did not. He captured the coupists who had murdered numerous leaders but didn’t put them on trial. He then created a decree that would concentrate power in his hands, which infuriated the north.

Igbo have suffered a lot in this country. Thousands of Igbos were killed in the north in 1966, and many more have been killed in religious riots since. 2 million civilians died in the civil war. Sadly, the Igbo men above contributed greatly to their troubles.

I am reluctant to add Ojukwu to this list. With the massive killing of Igbos, their return to the South East, and the failure of Gowon to respect the terms of the Aburi accord, his decision to secede was understandable and popular. However, it was a mistake. Once Ojukwu realized that he could no longer feed his people, he should have negotiated terms of surrender, but he waited until 2 million civilians had died.

There are some actions that if given a second chance will remain largely the same. The above is one and I don't like the idea of calling it a mistake. It will repeat if the condition and scenarios leading up to these actions play out again. If you give same set of people the chance to seceded, I am sure the creation of money/currency will be prioritized above maintaining the steady production of what those monies are meant to buy or facilitate their exchange again and before you realize it, another 2 million souls may face starvation to death.

Seun:

Zik was aware of the first coup and did nothing to try to stop it. Instead, he went on an extended trip outside the country. He didn’t warn the other leaders who were targeted for assassination by the coupists. He only cared about saving his own skin. One of the coupists, Ifeajuna, was a ‘cousin’ to Zik and probably warned him.

Nzeogwu was a heartless beast who thought his military training gave him the right to execute the elected leaders of the land and the wisdom to select a better leader for the country. He personally killed three of the security guards at Ahmadu Bello’s house, shot war weapons at the house, setting the roof on fire, shot dead a fellow coupist who hesitated to follow his murderous orders, shot at women and children running away from the house, and shot the Sardauna dead along with his wife. The plan was to arrest the leaders and kill them if they resisted, but Nzeogwu wanted them dead, so he killed them.

When Nzeogwu’s coup “failed”, General Aguiyi-Ironsi immediately conducted his own coup by forcing the civilian leaders who were supposed to take over to hand over power to him instead. Our democracy would have survived if he stood by the government and allowed the democratic leaders next in line to the those murdered to rule, but he did not. He captured the coupists who had murdered numerous leaders but didn’t put them on trial. He then created a decree that would concentrate power in his hands, which infuriated the north.

Igbo have suffered a lot in this country. Thousands of Igbos were killed in the north in 1966, and many more have been killed in religious riots since. 2 million civilians died in the civil war. Sadly, the Igbo men above contributed greatly to their troubles.

I am reluctant to add Ojukwu to this list. With the massive killing of Igbos, their return to the South East, and the failure of Gowon to respect the terms of the Aburi accord, his decision to secede was understandable and popular. However, it was a mistake. Once Ojukwu realized that he could no longer feed his people, he should have negotiated terms of surrender, but he waited until 2 million civilians had died.

Might I ask where you get this information from?

Adewale Ademoyega who was one of the coup plotters gave a different narration from this.

joseph1832:
Might I ask where you get this information from?

Adewale Ademoyega who was one of the coup plotters gave a different narration from this.

I’ll try to find his account and read it and see how it differs.

This report is my main source:

Major Nzeogwu, who was armed with a sterling SMG, ordered the constables to face the wall. Attah complied with this order but the three others refused. Without further ado, Major Nzeogwu immediately opened fire on them with his SMG killing all three on the spot.

146. Immediately after the killing of the policemen, Major Nzeogwu ordered the two men with the guns and the 3 NMTC Sergeants to follow him into the compound, bringing with them the Carl Gustav guns and the projectiles for these weapons.

147. Immediately inside the compound, Major Nzeogwu stationed the Carl Gustavs some 10 yards apart facing the lodge. The gunners were Sgts. Oyegeke and Manga, whilst Sgt. Adebiyi acted as ammunition number. As soon as both guns had been loaded, Major Nzeogwu ordered the NCOs to open fire at the Lodge. Both fired their projectiles bursting inside the ground floor rooms of the building. Sgt. Adebiyi stated that he then ran towards Sgt. Manga to help this NCO reload.

Whilst he was with Manga he heard Major Nzeogwu shouting repeatedly "Fire you bastard, fire". Immediately after this both Manga and Adebiyi heard a burst of SMG fire. They turned round and observed Sgt. Oyegoke slumped on the ground bleeding from multiple wounds. It was clear to both that their colleague had been killed by Major Nzeogwu either for refusing to obey or because he attempted to run away.

143. After the killing of Oyegeke, Major Nzeogwu ordered Sgt. Adebiyi to take over Oyegeke's gun and to continue firing at the house. Both Adebiyi and Manga, frightened by Oyegoke's killing, continued to fire as ordered. They used a total of 5 projectiles. As a result the building caught fire

149. Whilst all this was happening, 2/Lst. Waribor and Omeruah had arrived with the men from 3rd BN who were rapidly deployed around the outer perimeter wall of the lodge. Although these men heard the bursting of the Carl Gustav projectiles, the SMG and SLR fire and the screaming of women and children inside the compound, they were in no position to observe what was happening.

150. 2/Lt. Waribor, whilst deploying his men, instructed them to shoot anyone they observed attempting to leave the compound. A number of civilians, including women, however, were seen running and crying and Major Nzeogwu firing at them with his SMG

151. NA 502342 Cpl. Yakubu Kaje of 3rd BN NA reports that, at a given moment, he observed a civilian coming out of the Lodge armed with a sword. The corporal and the men with him stopped the civilian and ordered him to drop the sword. At this moment, according to the corporal, Major Nzeogwu arrived on the scene and asked the civilian, in Hausa, for the whereabouts of the "master of the house". The man replied that he did not know, whereupon Major Nzeogwu threatened to kill him unless he led him to his master. The man then agreed and led Major Nzeogwu to the back of the building. A shortwhile afterwards, the corporal states, he heard a number of shots fired. Assuming that Kaje is telling the truth, it is probable that the Sardauna of Sokoto died at that moment.

152. Cpl. Kaje has further reported that when the firing ceased, Major Nzeogwu came from the compound and was met at the gate by 2/Lt. Waribor, who asked the Major: "Did you get the man?", to which Nzeogwu answered, "Yes". When Major Nzeogwu left the compound he stated for all to hear, exultantly, "I have been successful, he is dead".

153. It has not been possible to establish the circumstances in which the senior wife of the deceased Premier was killed. The same applies to the death of one Zaruni, the Premier's personal body-guard. It is presumed that they died at the same time as the Premier.

Source: www.waado.org/nigerdelta/Nigeria_Facts/MilitaryRule/Omoigui/1966Coup-Part1.html

Here’s Nzeogwu’s proud description which convinced me that he’s a monster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ2pcLO9HSc

Seun:
I’ll try to find his account and read it and see how it differs.

This report is my main source:
Source: www.waado.org/nigerdelta/Nigeria_Facts/MilitaryRule/Omoigui/1966Coup-Part1.html

Here’s Nzeogwu’s proud description which convinced me that he’s a monster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ2pcLO9HSc

now from this video and the post you shared can't you see there's a difference?

Please kindly look for Adewale Ademoyega's book: Why We Struck and read it. You'll understand better.

You called Nzeogwu a monster I wonder what you'll call the politicians of those days.

joseph1832:
now from this video and the post you shared can't you see there's a difference?

The significant difference I’ve noticed is that I stated as fact some things that were very strongly implied by the report. Also, out of context, I made it seem as if Nzeogwu was the sole mastermind of the coup.

Please kindly look for Adewale Ademoyega's book: Why We Struck and read it. You'll understand better.

What are the key facts you learned from that book, which you want me to learn when I read it?

You called Nzeogwu a monster I wonder what you'll call the politicians of those days.

What kind of person orders soldiers to shoot anti-tank weapons at a governor’s house and then executes one of them on the spot for being reluctant to comply? What kind of person shoots at a group of civilians including women and children? What kind of person executes an unarmed leader who is beloved by his people, and his senior wife, instead of just arresting him?

Seun:

The significant difference I’ve noticed is that I stated as fact some things that were very strongly implied by the report. Also, out of context, I made it seem as if Nzeogwu was the sole mastermind of the coup.

those things are wrong. Very wrong and Nzeogwu wasn't the sole mastermind of the coup.

They were 5 majors who planned and carried out the coup:

Major Kaduna Nzwegwo
Major Emmanuel Ifeajuna
Major Timothy Onwatuegbu
Major Chris Anuforo
Major Adewale Ademoyega

What are the key facts you learned from that book, which you want me to learn when I read it?

that Nzeogwu wasn't a monster as you painted him to be. That he's a revolutionary, one Nigeria needed at that time. That the politicians of that era are as corrupt as the ones we have now. That this present politicians learnt the art (yes art) of corruption from the politicians of the 1st Republic etc.

What kind of person orders soldiers to shoot anti-tank weapons at a governor’s house and then executes one of them on the spot for being reluctant to comply? What kind of person shoots at a group of civilians including women and children? What kind of person executes an unarmed leader who is beloved by his people, and his senior wife, instead of just arresting him?

Dude you seem not to understand who a soldier is. A soldier is a trained killer. Probably someone who has license to kill when ordered. (Depends on the situation)

It seem you're not familiar with military rules and tactics that if and when a soldier refuse to carry out an order, he or she can be shot on the spot.

As for shooting unarmed civilians, the video you posted earlier, I didn't hear Nzeogwu attesting that he shot unarmed civilians. That one sided report you posted is what attested to that.

You asked what kind of person execute an unarmed leader. Well I'll tell you The Punisher kind of person.

Cc: Naptu2.

joseph1832:
those things are wrong. Very wrong and Nzeogwu wasn't the sole mastermind of the coup.

They were 5 majors who planned and carried out the coup:

Major Kaduna Nzwegwo
Major Emmanuel Ifeajuna
Major Timothy Onwatuegbu
Major Chris Anuforo
Major Adewale Ademoyega

that Nzeogwu wasn't a monster as you painted him to be. That he's a revolutionary, one Nigeria needed at that time. That the politicians of that era are as corrupt as the ones we have now. That this present politicians learnt the art (yes art) of corruption from the politicians of the 1st Republic etc.

Dude you seem not to understand who a soldier is. A soldier is a trained killer. Probably someone who has license to kill when ordered. (Depends on the situation)

It seem you're not familiar with military rules and tactics that if and when a soldier refuse to carry out an order, he or she can be shot on the spot.

As for shooting unarmed civilians, the video you posted earlier, I didn't hear Nzeogwu attesting that he shot unarmed civilians. That one sided report you posted is what attested to that.

You asked what kind of person execute an unarmed leader. Well I'll tell you The Punisher kind of person.

Cc: Naptu2.

Nzeogwu wasn't the leader of the coup. He didn't even know much of what was going on. He was only brought into the plot because they needed troops in Kaduna and he was in command of troops in Kaduna. The leader of the coup was Ifeajuna and the coup was the brain child of Ifeajuna and Captain Oji.

The only reason that people think of Nzeogwu as the leader is because the coup failed in Lagos, so there was no broadcast from Lagos. Nzeogwu waited for a broadcast from Lagos, but when he didn't hear any, he went ahead and made his own broadcast.


That coup was the biggest mistake in Nigeria's history.

Seun:

Zik was aware of the first coup and did nothing to try to stop it. Instead, he went on an extended trip outside the country. He didn’t warn the other leaders who were targeted for assassination by the coupists. He only cared about saving his own skin. One of the coupists, Ifeajuna, was a ‘cousin’ to Zik and probably warned him.

Nzeogwu was a heartless beast who thought his military training gave him the right to execute the elected leaders of the land and the wisdom to select a better leader for the country. He personally killed three of the security guards at Ahmadu Bello’s house, shot war weapons at the house, setting the roof on fire, shot dead a fellow coupist who hesitated to follow his murderous orders, shot at women and children running away from the house, and shot the Sardauna dead along with his wife. The plan was to arrest the leaders and kill them if they resisted, but Nzeogwu wanted them dead, so he killed them.

When Nzeogwu’s coup “failed”, General Aguiyi-Ironsi immediately conducted his own coup by forcing the civilian leaders who were supposed to take over to hand over power to him instead. Our democracy would have survived if he stood by the government and allowed the democratic leaders next in line to the those murdered to rule, but he did not. He captured the coupists who had murdered numerous leaders but didn’t put them on trial. He then created a decree that would concentrate power in his hands, which infuriated the north.

Igbo have suffered a lot in this country. Thousands of Igbos were killed in the north in 1966, and many more have been killed in religious riots since. 2 million civilians died in the civil war. Sadly, the Igbo men above contributed greatly to their troubles.

I am reluctant to add Ojukwu to this list. With the massive killing of Igbos, their return to the South East, and the failure of Gowon to respect the terms of the Aburi accord, his decision to secede was understandable and popular. However, it was a mistake. Once Ojukwu realized that he could no longer feed his people, he should have negotiated terms of surrender, but he waited until 2 million civilians had died.

So in your opinion, 2 million civilians died as a result of hunger not because of aerial bombardments from the Nigerian Air force? If 2 million died because of hunger, how many Biafrans died from gunshots and bombs? Seun, this your agenda is dead on arrival. Don't blame Ojukwu, blame Awolowo that advised the Federal Government to use hunger and starvation as a weapon of warfare. It was inhumane!

naptu2:

Nzeogwu wasn't the leader of the coup. He didn't even know much of what was going on. He was only brought into the plot because they needed troops in Kaduna and he was in command of troops in Kaduna. The leader of the coup was Ifeajuna and the coup was the brain child of Ifeajuna and Captain Oji.

The only reason that people think of Nzeogwu as the leader is because the coup failed in Lagos, so there was no broadcast from Lagos. Nzeogwu waited for a broadcast from Lagos, but when he didn't hear any, he went ahead and made his own broadcast.

That coup was the biggest mistake in Nigeria's history.

Wow. Never knew this. From what I was taught back in University (Pre-Independence Nigeria Government and Politics and Post Independence Nigeria Government and Politics) Never was it ever said that the coup was a mistake.

Can I ask why you think/believe/know that the January 1966 coup was the biggest mistake in Nigeria's history?

Syphax:

So in your opinion, 2 million civilians died as a result of hunger not because of aerial bombardments from the Nigerian Air force? If 2 million died because of hunger, how many Biafrans died from gunshots and bombs? Seun, this your agenda is dead on arrival. Don't blame Ojukwu, blame Awolowo that advised the Federal Government to use hunger and starvation as a weapon of warfare. It was inhumane!

there's a saying: "all is fair in love and war". I guess with this kind of reasoning of yours you'll say blame the U.S for dropping nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

joseph1832:
there's a saying: "all is fair in love and war". I guess with this kind of reasoning of yours you'll say blame the U.S for dropping nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

What the US did is inhumane, that's why The UN UN developed a charter on use of Nuclear weapon by countries. Any country that uses a nuclear weapon right now will face sanctions. According to ICC, use of starvation as a weapon of warfare is a criminal act and anybody that does it will be brought to book.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v1_rul_rule53

Syphax:

So in your opinion, 2 million civilians died as a result of hunger not because of aerial bombardments from the Nigerian Air force? If 2 million died because of hunger, how many Biafrans died from gunshots and bombs? Seun, this your agenda is dead on arrival. Don't blame Ojukwu, blame Awolowo that advised the Federal Government to use hunger and starvation as a weapon of warfare. It was inhumane!

I am not sure that the Nigerian government had a choice. No country can remain stable if states can unilaterally leave the union, taking valuable resources away with them. If they allowed Biafra to secede, other states with resources would have tried to do the same thing later. It’s a slippery slope. If Biafra had been successful, Ojukwu would have done whatever he had to do to prevent the South South from leaving Biafra with their oil.

Many Igbos felt that Ojukwu’s decision to secede was premature and unwise, though they still had to fight for Biafra to protect their kinsmen. Ojukwu did it at that particular time because Gowon tried to break the Eastern region that he controlled into multiple states, which would have taken away his control of the region. So there was an element of selfishness there.

On 27 May 1967, Gowon proclaimed the division of Nigeria into twelve states. This decree carved the Eastern Region in three parts: South Eastern State, Rivers State, and East Central State. Now the Igbos, concentrated in the East Central State, would lose control over most of the petroleum, located in the other two areas.

On 30 May 1967, Ojukwu declared independence of the Republic of Biafra.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War

Seun:

I am not sure that the Nigerian government had a choice. No country can remain stable if states can unilaterally leave the union, taking valuable resources away with them. If they allowed Biafra to secede, other states with resources would have tried to do the same thing later. It’s a slippery slope. If Biafra had been successful, Ojukwu would have done whatever he had to do to prevent the South South from leaving Biafra with their oil.

Many Igbos felt that Ojukwu’s decision to secede was premature and unwise, though they still had to fight for Biafra to protect their kinsmen. Ojukwu did it at that particular time because Gowon tried to break the Eastern region that he controlled into multiple states, which would have taken away his control of the region. So there was an element of selfishness there.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War

No, Igbos supported Ojukwu's declaration of Biafra wholeheartedly. In fact, Ojukwu didn't just declare Biafra unilaterally, he was forced to declare it by the Eastern elders. The Eastern Region Consultative Assembly forced him to do so. Ojukwu declared it because it was his responsibility as the military administrator of the east. If Igbos were truly against him, we would have sabotaged his war efforts.

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