THis is the fact we are loosing and taken away in Nigeria, we are doing one or two thing is trying to make money but no one is ready to lay down some sacrify in other to get the best out for his own fathers land. In this programmers room, Skimma, posted a subject in which is best for us to try and build a CMS work which when the world ask this question? who are does guys that come up with this kind of programm? where do they come from? how much do they invested on it? then the answer will be Nigerians..

Is that not a great name and starting to you all in Nigeria.

Please if you guys are really serious about geting this program done, let me know am willing to sacrify my money and time with you guys and i promise you with the matter of time and patience you will see your names out of the world standing as the heros in Nigeria and the Nigerians will be proud of you guys.

Skima, keep it up and let me know what you need to start this and any one who is interested in this should at least let me know then i will contribute my money and program to it.

Good Luck,
Let make it MADE IN NIGERIA

Why don't you go and put your money and time in Wazobia linux.

What's the govt policy on ICT development?

@joftech, can you please tell me what is ICT and govt policies relating to ICT and wazobialinux?

Omo na wa for you joftech ooo weti you mean? and beside how do you plan to assist Naija with the little you have? make i even ask you, abi all you want is to continue telling people sir and ma and make we no become oga one day.. Omo no be me tufiaqua

@joftech, can you please tell me what is ICT and govt policies relating to ICT and wazobialinux?

@Sbu, i know you know what ICT is. Naija govt policy is wack or better still non-existent. Wazobialinux is a Nigerian Linux distro.

Omo na wa for you joftech ooo weti you mean? and beside how do you plan to assist Nigeria with the little you have? make i even ask you, abi all you want is to continue telling people sir and ma and make we no become oga one day.. Omo no be me tufiaqua

Goog Nigerian, i know you are the one that will bring back naija's lost glory. Why must someone give to a country that find it difficult to give one the basic things of life. You work for the govt no pay, no stable/regular power supply (or do you want to do your free coding on genertator), no access to credit card payment(or don't you know the charges on the alternatives) etc

You see naija is not the kind of country one can die for, if you do have just wasted a resource.

You see naija is not the kind of country one can die for, if you do have just wasted a resource.

That is a very very unfortunate mentality. If all Nigerians think like that joftech we are doomed.

You're not supposed to die for your country. If anything, you are supposed to live for it. Throwing your life away is not what will make the country great.

Yes i understand with you all, i belt you if we are to look into that! we wount have even be here that we are now, as you can see.. you have the access to do you own thing but without any government help or assistant, yes if we are to look into what Nigeria is, huh my brother and sister we will end up being noting but i do belive the great americans went through all this before they can happly stand up now and say i want to die for America.. So let try and make thing change on our own side and we should stop l,ooking on the government face and also face the fact of life.

So guys wake up and see that we are one and we have to build our own home not Nigeria home.. Your father land is still your land and ajooo ko le da bi ile. come back home Naija guys.

You see naija is not the kind of country one can die for, if you do have just wasted a resource.

I agree totally with joftech.

I don't know what it is.  But Nigerians at home don't get it.  I often hear pleas for people abroad to return home.  Return to what?  The reason that somebody abroad is doing well is that basic needs are met.  Such basic needs are beyond a common man's ability to provide.  I'm speaking of: roads, electricity, freedom of trade, hospitals, telecommunication, personal safety, health, law and order, freedom of speech, government funding for R&, etc.  Without these things, a pro abroad cannot apply his knowledge efficiently, if at all.  You cannot get blood out of a stone.

Our government is blessed with easy $1 billion a week oil money.  It all gets stolen.  Yet you expect me to pick up the pieces?  No way jose.  Direct your energy toward eradicating corruption, and you'd soon see people returning home.

I know a doctor (MD) who went home to do feasibility studies.  He returned with no doubt in his mind that he's staying in America.  Why?  Because he was met with a serious culture shock in Nigeria.  The gap is just too wide.  Hospitals barely have beds, let alone sophisticated equipments.  Yes, he could return home, but nobody would be able to afford his services after he spends hundreds of millions of $$ acquiring medical equipments.

Every professional needs tools to work.  Nigeria does not provide those tools.  Therefore, returning home would not have the desired effect.

The same mentality for africa is till applying on Nigerians, but why,i think Nigerians are more advance and explosed.. Why dont you want to build your own home and all you could say is that' the best place for you is your negbours house, why not ask yourself this question that? what if my neighbour one day refuse to allow me into his house, where will i go to..

Let be frank with each other, it is more better to build your home and start feeling at home, and how do you build your own, it is very simple, by you first checking yourself and making sure you are okay before throwning a blame on your sisiter or brother.

Government have tried their own best, then it is ours time to help ourself not even the government. because already government has tried, look a man in Nigeria owns 40 companys and yet there is noting he or she can count to have set out for the marcys, and what do you think Government will do, why not think that if this man, use his means to proimote or help others, huh what a change this life will be for Nigerians, that is how americans become something today my brother ooo. Sacrify your self for your country.
Stop bringing out excusess

Government have tried their own best, then it is ours time to help ourself not even the government.

No. The government hasn't tried its best. I don't see the good roads. I don't see modern hospitals, banks, research institutions, easy import/export policies, good schools, law enforcement, etc. I don't see salaries being paid on time.

Do you seriously believe a mere mortal abroad who returns home can provide himself with these things? Or are those the government's job, which it has failed at?

You're lying to yourself, if you fail to see these things.

Yes guys, thanks God you are out there and i do believe you can tell more than i do over there but the fact till remain this, ask yourself this! are the government over there not corrupt? do they do all needed by the people? and if you can give the answer at 100% then come home and stone your first stone at the government. Listen my fellow guys this is life and this is what me and you have to come and do, number one who where asking me what has government done for your country,now ask me? how many people have the freedom to have cell phone at there hands? now? also how many people has been browsing from thier homes now? See government has provide us with communication.

Secondly, the fight against corruption has it not been a best interest to the foriegn countries now, that Nigerians are getiting ride of scammers at the little they can do for now? Thirdly electricity is getiing more standby now! not like before, at least we can celebrate an half day current in Nigerian, Remember half bread is better than none..

See guys roads can be asign to as a contract, if you are rich you can walk on to the government that sir,could you please allow me build up this road from here to here? fine aint you helping?

Similar topic...
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-6540.0.html

yea yea what ever, i really see to your reason guys and really that is the most important thing a nation will need, such as road, transportation,electri and more.. then should i ask you guys what do you all think is the solution to this in our Naija country? and how do we the people i mean citizen help the nation?

Nice guys..

Thanks sbucareer.  It's encouraging to know there are still people out there who know what is going on.

Everything in any nation revolves around its citizens.  In order to reform Nigeria, we first need to build a comprehensive database of Nigerians.  It's easy to build such a system with cheap commodity computers networked in a server farm.  No need to award another billion dollar contract for that.  LAMP is free.  Get experienced web application programmers to create a good database for this purpose.  It can be done in 6 months to a year.  Once it's online, it would be accessible nationwide via the net.  Everything would be secure, just use https protocol.

With such system in place, record keeping becomes very easy.  You would know who hasn't paid his taxes, who has committed crimes in the past, who deserves government benefits.  Court cases can be stored, government financial transactions can be documented, etc.  The issuing of national ID cards becomes easy and fraud-free.

To further combat fraud, you'd have several levels of overseers.  One level keeping an eye on the other's actions, as far as handling the database is concerned. 

Take America for example, the reason that America works is not because the people are honest.  It's because there are four branches of government, one keeping an eye on the others' actions.  Executive, legislative, judiciary, and the media.  The executive has veto power, elects the judiciary, etc.  The legislature can impeach the executive arm, and also makes laws. The judiciary rules whether laws made by the legislative arm is constitutional or unconstitutional.  Finally, the media keeps an eye on the Executive, legislative, judiciary, the media too.

A system without checks and balances does not work.

I can write a book on things Nigeria should be doing to move the nation forward.  But what is new?  Nigerian leaders do not have any interest in the progress of Nigeria.  Just as sbucareer said: we need a true leader.  That is all we need.  We have the money.  We're blessed with smart people.  We have all the resources.  All we need are leaders who have the interest of the nation at heart, and would like to see it move into the modern age.

It's a seriously flawed thought to think that Nigerians abroad returning home is the nations salvation.  NOOO!  The environment you live in determines how much you can do.  Unfortunately, the Nigerian environment today does not let you do much.

Am so delighted about this, and really i can see we really have talented people in our country Nigeria, yes the simple truth still lies wait, WE NEED A LEADRER that is just it, and more over if we keep on saying this we need a leader for years huh!! how are we going to get one? Ley my brilliant guys help me out on this?

I like making note but note without a key is noting at all, that is to say the same problem that is affecting us in Nigeria now, One state government will set up a program without a back up, now tell what will happen to does programs that need changes. Huh maybe you guys dont get me right this is what i mean.

They are trying to get of fraud and scam in this country, but they havent create any source of employment; that even if the scammers decide to leave scam' what will they now do if there is no employment in other to suvival? this is what i mean a program without back up.

Secondly after the govermnet might have tried to invert a program, they will thrown away maintaines, and if you cant maintain then you will only loss what ever you might have inverted.

So guys i see reason with you all but how do we choose this leaders and where do we start from? you know all what you made mention can not just start in a day but step by step, so how do we do it, where and what can me and you now do in other to start reaching out or spreading this to people out there.

Also do you all agree with me that Nigeria need a change, we are not blessed but more than blessed and givethed.

@geton

I understand your question.  People involved in scams want to quit, but there's nowhere for them to go.  It's a catch22.  You also metioned that we cannot reform Nigeria suddenly.  It must be done gradually. 

It all goes back once again to leadership.  For this to happen, we need a leader with vision.  A leader who has a large capacity for planning.  He/she must be able to think like a computer programmer who creates a huge flowchart that allows him to see the result of his application even before he writes one line of code.  We do have such people, but their chances of getting elected is slim to none.  Our politics is defined not by ability, but by tribal/religious affiliations.

Election campaigns in Nigeria is a circus.  In the developed world, every little dirt about a person is dug up.  They have records about every action you've ever taken in your life.  If you've ever beat up your wife, it's on record.  Which is why we need to have a database of Nigerians as I've already suggested.  Now, if a candidate has demonstrated a pattern of good leadership in the past, it's very likely he'd do well as our president.

This whole question falls to votes.  Will Nigeria ever have a population that would vote based on merits, rather than tribe/religion?  Can millions of muslims vote for a christian candidate?  Can Yorubas and Hausas vote overwhelmingly for an Igbo candidate, even when there is a Yoruba and Hausa contestant?  If you say yes, then we have a chance.  If you say no, then we have a long way to go. 

We came close one time.  Murtala Muhammad would have done so much for Nigeria, but they killed him after only 6 months.  What does that say about the fact that Nigeria doesn't like progress?

The bottomline is, Nigerian leaders are generally selfish.  Until that changes, nothing is going to change.  We'd simply keep going round in circles of leader after leader.  Now and then people abroad will return home and do their part.  But a few men can only do so much in the presence of overwhelming opposition to progress.  The only way to move the nation forward is for the leaders to start adopting positive policies.

@oasis,

Thanks really i see reason to your point, this can come to end if only those point are taken and also guys this is very fine comment and points, but tell me guys do we create a database for people to read such articles and post more, like trying to point out there comment and if we are to do this, we will try to emback it on the citizen coos if the citizen can understand thier right then i think progress will start from there. Like if they know that choosen a leadership is not just on mere words or tribes either religion, then they will know how to vote for the right person,

See guys but i still believe that Nigeria can be helped by providing free things to them in other to generate and draw there attension to you demand.

Am really feeling too bad for my country Naija the way things are going, it really making me feel as if, is this country going to change for the best? i belt i stll havent fine an answer to this, but only one thing that keeps on hiting me; is that if only we citizen can stand for our right and let fight it together we will win and see it through.

Do agree with me that Nigeria is a country that when something happens all they will say is that " We go manage am now, All we they pray is for God to answer our prayer" guys do you believe this statement or not? i think if we stand and say no " we no go greee" and we protest against that thing and we'll see that changes will occurs.

Tell me guys what you think about my comment.

true talk. I think if we can start doing someting right from where we are then there will surely be a change!

There's chronic and acute apathy in all Nigerians, so don expect any miracle. Things will continue to roll like they used to for years to come until there's no more money in oil.

Can anyone tell me the ideology Nigeria is following, in my opinion it's non. People get to power only to enrich themselves.

You are all talking about universities, what do the graduates know?

You will be suprised if you ask a graduate

Yea i agreee with you, if we can get across this forum to the university across this nation then i think that is a starting point and @subca that is true talk we cant because a fish is died and we stop drinking water, we all most note that we need a change, so guys let keep it up now, how do we start?
1. if you have a website, place an advert over it to direct viewer to a page where you will at least explain a little bit and they drive them back to nairaland.com to completely join and see more.
2. By spreading it face to face and mouth to mouth
3. you have working in a media company give him or her an articles to place on the daily papers.
4. If you can draw cartoons draw and send out to paper companys to set it up.
e.t.c.

I think this can help spread this forum out to people and i think from there we all can start reaching out to our people to understand the main thing we all want in this country and also as you all will agree with me that communication is to key to reach out to people so, guys let do something and i belive God will bless us all, just sacrify a time and some money and energy for your country is a glory to you if we can do this,

I will help place to my own website and direct people to this forum and i will email this to some unviersity and also i will try and reach with CNN.com to do something like announcing it out.

Do your best for your country okay.

Insightful, simply insightful. In my view, Nigeria is the most complex country to lead. The only way we can move forward is when we decide that we want a change, a few of us do - most of us don't.

We need a overhaul, a complete change in the mentality - you got to have people to think right. Most Nigerians have accepted Nigeria as it is - we know Nigeria is a country where anyone can do anything, take laws into their hands, NEPA takes light anytime, when you give them money, they bring it back.

I support the central dbase system, it will really help us.

joftech:

There's chronic and acute apathy in all Nigerians, so don expect any miracle. Things will continue to roll like they used to for years to come until there's no more money in oil.

Can anyone tell me the ideology Nigeria is following, in my opinion it's non. People get to power only to enrich themselves.

In addition to the nice suggestions you all made, joftech hit the jackpot: OIL. We export crude oil in exchange to foreign currency. But as soon as the money hit Nigerian shore, it tends to evaporate into thin air. Who are stealing the money? What are they doing with it? Absolutely Nothing! Any President that will have the balls to put a hold on any/all kinds of oil exportation, at least for 4 years, will be the best President Nigeria will ever have. If there is no money coming in, there won't be any to steal. At least, there will be enough for the masses to use within the country. I think there should be other ways the government can generate money.

I'd rather do some standalone projects than delve into making a nationwide project. Things of this nature such as programming for Nigerians, or making a programming base evolved around Nigeria would be nice, but it'll take _alot_ of programmers to start up, we should look into making projects made in Nigeria, used widely that way we get recognition, hence the community I wanted to start up that nobody really cared to take notice of.