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The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Lucifer1419: 3:53pm On Dec 26, 2020
similarities to other stories
unavoidable contradictions
the logical explanation
Similarities to Other Stories
The similarities between the stories and characters in the Bible and those from previous mythologies are both undeniable and well-documented. This would be obvious if it weren’t for early indoctrination of these beliefs into children, which usually makes them unassailable as adults.
In this short piece I’ll attempt to show extraordinary similarities with regard to two of the most important Biblical narratives: the genesis story and the character of jesus christ.

The Book of Genesis’s Flood Story Mirrors The Epic Of Gilgamesh From Hundreds Of Years Earlier

Here are a number of elements that both Gilgamesh and the flood story in Genesis share:

God decided to send a worldwide flood. This would drown men, women, children, babies and infants, as well as eliminate all of the land animals and birds.
God knew of one righteous man, Ut-Napishtim or Noah.
God ordered the hero to build a multi-story wooden ark (called a chest or box in the original Hebrew), and the hero initially complained about the assignment to build the boat.
The ark would have many compartments, a single door, be sealed with pitch and would house two of every animal species.
A great rain covered the land with water.
The ark landed on a mountain in the Middle East.
The first two birds returned to the ark. The third bird apparently found dry land because it did not return.
The hero and his family left the ark, ritually killed an animal, offered it as a sacrifice.
The Babylonian gods seemed genuinely sorry for the genocide that they had created. The God of Noah appears to have regretted his actions as well, because he promised never to do it again.
Keep in mind the level of detail in these similarities. It’s not a matter of just a flood, but specific details: three birds sent out, resisting the call to build the ark, and a single man being chosen by God to build the ark. Then consider that the first story (Gilgamesh) came from Babylon — hundreds of years before the Bible was even written.
Do you honestly think, based on the similarities above, that those who wrote the Genesis story had not heard the Gilgamesh story? And if they had heard it, and they were simply rehashing an old, very popular tale, what does that say about the Bible?

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Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Lucifer1419: 3:55pm On Dec 26, 2020
Jesus’s Story is an Obvious Rehashing Of Numerous Previous Characters

Perhaps even more compelling is the story of Christ himself. As it turns out it’s not even remotely original. It is instead nothing more than a collection of bits and pieces from dozens of other stories that came long before. Here are some examples.

asklepios healed the sick, raised the dead, and was known as the savior and redeemer.
hercules was born of a divine father and mortal mother and was known as the savior of the world.
dionysus was literally the “Son of God”, was born of a woman who had not had sex with a man, and was depicted riding a donkey. He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles, and was killed and resurrected, after which time he became immortal.
osiris did the same things. He was born of a virgin, was considered the first true king of the people, and when he died he rose from the grave and went to heaven.
Osiris’s son, horus, was known as the “light of the world”, “The good shepherd”, and “the lamb”. He was also referred to as, “The way, the truth, and the life.” His symbol was a cross-like symbol.
mithra‘s birthday was celebrated on the 25th of december, his birth was witnessed by local shepherds who brought him gifts, had 12 disciples, and when he was done on earth he had a final meal before going up to heaven. On judgment day he’ll return to pass judgment on the living and the dead. The good will go to heaven, and the evil will die in a giant fire. His holiday is on Sunday (he’s the Sun God). His followers called themselves “brothers”, and their leaders “fathers”. They had baptism and a meal ritual where symbolic flesh and blood were eaten. Heaven was in the sky, and hell was below with demons and sinners.
krishna had a miraculous conception that wise men were able to come to because they were guided by a star. After he was born an area ruler tried to have him found and killed. His parents were warned by a divine messenger, however, and they escaped and was met by shepherds. The boy grew up to be the mediator between God and man.
buddha‘s mother was told by an angel that she’d give birth to a holy child destined to be a savior. As a child he teaches the priests in his temple about religion while his parents look for him. He starts his religious career at roughly 30 years of age and is said to have spoken to 12 disciples on his deathbed. One of the disciples is his favorite, and another is a traitor. He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around speaking in parables and metaphors. He called himself “the son of man” and was referred to as, “prophet”, “master”, and “Lord”. He healed the sick, cured the blind and deaf, and he walked on water. One of his disciples tried to walk on water as well but sunk because his faith wasn’t strong enough.
apollonius of tyana (a contemporary of Jesus) performed countless miracles (healing sick and crippled, restored sight, casted out demons, etc.) His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel. He knew scripture really well as a child. he was crucified, rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples to prove his power before going to heaven to sit at the right hand of the father. He was known as, “The Son of God”.
The problem, of course, is that these previous narratives existed hundreds to thousands of years before Jesus did.

Unavoidable contradictions
Not only was the Bible taken largely and blatantly from previous stories, but there are contradictions so massive that they defy belief. Here are just a few of them.

Noah’s Ark: The story of the Ark is that a pair of every animal on earth was put on the ship. Forgetting for a second the fact that the story came directly from the Epic of Gilgamesh, keep in mind we’re being asked to believe that two 500-year-old people are caring for tens of thousands of animals. And where did they keep the food? How did they keep the poisonous snakes from biting the other animals? And where did they get the polar bears, alligators, and thousands of other animals that that don’t live in the Middle East?

The Angel’s Message: In Matthew 1:20 it says the Angel spoke to Joseph. In Luke 1:28 he spoke to Mary. Which was it?

Mary’s Virginity: The Hebrew word ‘Almah’, which people took to mean virgin, actually means ‘young woman of marriage age’. And there are plenty of indications that Jesus had brothers and sisters.

The Census: The authors of the Bible are trying so hard to get Jesus born in Bethlehem that they craft a story about a census. They say that Joseph had to travel back to his father’s homeland in order to register for it. Can you seriously imagine—in any period let alone then—asking the entire country to travel back their father’s hometown to register for a census? It’s completely impossible. The author of the story put it in there because they needed Jesus born in that city. Plus, historians note that the Romans kept extraordinary records, and there wasn’t even a census at that time. It’s completely fabricated, and for obvious reasons.

Jesus and the Family: The Bible says honor your father and mother, yet Jesus says you must hate your father, mother, wife, children, and even your own life to be a disciple, and says to call no man on earth your father. (MT 10:35-37, LK 12:51-53, 14:26, MT 23:9)

God and Murder: God says killing is wrong, yet he advocates genocide. (EX 34:11-14, LV 26:7-9)

God and Slavery: We all know slavery to be wrong, yet God openly advocates it. (GN 17:12, EX 12:43, EX: 21:1, EX 21:20, EX 21:32, LV 22:10, LV 25:44, LK 7:2, CL 3:22)

Jesus’s Heritage: There are two different genealogies for Jesus given in the Bible, and they don’t match. One is curiously given through Joseph, which is strange since he’s not Jesus’s father. Why give a genealogy through someone who isn’t related to you?

The Passover: It’s widely understood that God is supposed to be all-seeing and all-knowing. If that’s true, then why did he need people to mark their houses with blood in order to keep from killing their babies inside?

Kill Your Son to Prove You Love Me: God told Abraham to kill his son to prove that he loved God. Abraham raised the knife to him, about to do it, and God called it off—pleased that he would have done it. Does that sound like a moral God to you?

This is just a tiny sample of the inconsistencies and moral problems with the Bible. There are far more linked in the notes. But don’t take my word for any of this. Go to the passages. Read the material. It’s all there.

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Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Lucifer1419: 3:57pm On Dec 26, 2020
Nagging questions
how is jesus’s crucifixion the ultimate sacrifice if he isn’t dead? He has been immortal since the beginning of time, and he’s still alive and immortal today, so where’s the sacrifice?
If Jesus removed our sins with his (see above) “sacrifice”, then how come we still have to avoid sin and accept him as our savior to avoid an eternity in hell? What did it accomplish?
Why does the Bible talk constantly about how to manage slaves, how to kill one’s enemies, and how to avoid making God angry, but there’s not much focus at all on seemingly obvious things like, “Thou Shalt Not Harm a Child”?
I know the Ark was supposed to be large, but the world currently has an estimated 8,700,000 species of life form. And you needed two of each
Forgetting just the numbers problem, how did the species that only exist (and still exist) in South America, and Antartica, and Australia, etc., all make it to the Ark?
What’s the direct, non-hand-waving explanation for the suffering and death of roughly 9 million children per year in a world supposedly ruled by a kind and loving God?
When Wikipedia can be updated by a random human, for billions of people in mere seconds, why has God left his book filled with stories of slavery, rape, and genocide from thousands of years ago?
The logical conclusion
Many are familiar with occam’s razor, which states that, all things being equal, one should not seek complex explanations when more simple ones are available. Few dispute that these other stories predate the Judeo-Christian Bible, or that the Bible is full of massive contradictions, so we really have two main explanations:

God created all these stories and characters thousands of years before the Bible in order to trick people, and then created new stories and characters that were almost exactly the same. But the version that went into the Bible—even with all the contradictions and immoral teachings—is the actual word of God. …OR…
The Bible was created during a time where stories were orally passed down over thousands of years. Stories constantly morphed and changed over time, and the Bible is a collection of these. This is why it has the nearly identical flood story from Gilgamesh, and why Jesus has the same characteristics as Dionysus, Osiris, Horus, Mithra, and Krishna. The contradictions and immorality in the stories are not evidence that God is flawed or evil, but rather that humans invented him, just like the thousands of other gods that we used to but no longer believe in.
If you hadn’t been taught Christianity since you were a young child, which of these two explanations would make the most sense to you?

Notes
The goal of this page is not to say God is evil or bad. The point is to show that he is imaginary, created by humans, and to use the blatant reproductions, inconsistencies, and immoral teachings of the Bible to show that the Bible is false, and was written by man. God is not at fault here; there is no reason to believe anything like God exists at all. We simply made it all up because 1) we are afraid of death and, 2) we can use such beliefs to control people.
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Lucifer1419: 4:01pm On Dec 26, 2020
Don't judge me on this, am not the Author of the bible, you can read your bible and fined the false flag, am not saying God is not real, but if God said we where created in the image of him, then why are we afraid of our fellow human being, example our government, we believe and accept every they tell us to do.

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Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by faithfuldon7(m): 4:27pm On Dec 26, 2020
Op Your name dey fear me....
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Lucifer1419: 5:14pm On Dec 26, 2020
faithfuldon7:
Op Your name dey fear me....
. Brother no fear, na just name, na the thing way I they talk be this, fear, na waiting humanity they fear for, fear of death, fear of government, fear of war, fear of evil, but no fear of God.
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by kingxsamz(m): 5:59pm On Dec 26, 2020
grin grin grin
Is it people who believe that the universe was created in 6days that you're telling this one?
It is either what's in their bible or nothing.
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:18pm On Dec 26, 2020
I remember there were so many textbooks on physics back in school, science students throughout the world were studying physics with mathematics.
No matter how complicated physicists and mathematicians do sound back then, the result of their study is out today so anyone doubting the efficacy of those subjects back then can't do so again today.

The Bible introduced and explained itself to mankind with a promise that only those who are able to fully understand it's message will see the benefits. Of course many people picked up the book and after reading there emerges so many contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines on the same book.

But today the result is out!

The promises fulfilled but misinformed people are anticipating the wrong results.
The Bible says A time of trouble will come on this planet when politics and racism will led to intense hatred amongst the inhabitants of the earth, but at the same time individuals from different races (including most racist nations) will come together and form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} they will settle all their differences, they will destroy all weapons of war by vowing never to make use of it, they will have love amongst themselves {John 13:34-35} they will have one line of thought {John 17:20--23} but all others will hate them intensely! Matthew 10:22

Everything was fulfilled accurately on JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES today, so let those still doubting the book (Bible) continue with their unbelieve the result is out, it's those who don't understand that are dispassed in abroad and confused {Luke 11:23; Daniel 12:10} God has gotten a people for his name! Isaiah 65:15 smiley
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by orunto27: 9:38am On Dec 27, 2020
SEEING IS BELIEVING. ANYTHING YOU DON'T SEE IS FICTION. BUT THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN CHRIST JESUS ARE BEARING WITNESSES THAT WE HAVE SEEN AND HEARD HIM SPEAK TO US.
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Image123(m): 7:07pm On Dec 28, 2020
Anything from Lucifer is luciferous

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Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Image123(m): 1:07am On Dec 29, 2020
BTW, the insignificance and worthlessness of the thousand other gods is too glaring to ignore. It's like comparing monopoly money and possession to real money and possession. They have similarities but don't be a fooled baby. Satan is a master deceiver so if you were a smart deceiver, would you do less? Would you not make many similar counterfeits and pathways? Ever heard of clones? Use your God given brains for once, why allow satan to play pingpong with it eternally?

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Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by ANTIlSLAM(m): 1:35am On Dec 29, 2020
Lucifer1419 May God heal your suffering, can you say Amen?
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by AntiChristian: 7:33am On Dec 29, 2020
ANTIlSLAM:
Lucifer1419 May God heal your suffering, can you say Amen?

When you are doing just like him on Islamic threads....what goes around...
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Nobody: 8:21am On Dec 29, 2020
kingxsamz:
grin grin grin
Is it people who believe that the universe was created in 6days that you're telling this one?
It is either what's in their bible or nothing.

As against those that believed the universe was created by an explosion?
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by petra1(m): 8:38am On Dec 29, 2020
Lucifer1419:
similarities to other stories
unavoidable contradictions
the logical explanation
Similarities to Other Stories
The similarities between the stories and characters in the Bible and those from previous mythologies are both undeniable and well-documented. This would be obvious if it weren’t for early indoctrination of these beliefs into children, which usually makes them unassailable as adults.
In this short piece I’ll attempt to show extraordinary similarities with regard to two of the most important Biblical narratives: the genesis story and the character of jesus christ.

The Book of Genesis’s Flood Story Mirrors The Epic Of Gilgamesh From Hundreds Of Years Earlier

Here are a number of elements that both Gilgamesh and the flood story in Genesis share:

God decided to send a worldwide flood. This would drown men, women, children, babies and infants, as well as eliminate all of the land animals and birds.
God knew of one righteous man, Ut-Napishtim or Noah.
God ordered the hero to build a multi-story wooden ark (called a chest or box in the original Hebrew), and the hero initially complained about the assignment to build the boat.
The ark would have many compartments, a single door, be sealed with pitch and would house two of every animal species.
A great rain covered the land with water.
The ark landed on a mountain in the Middle East.
The first two birds returned to the ark. The third bird apparently found dry land because it did not return.
The hero and his family left the ark, ritually killed an animal, offered it as a sacrifice.
The Babylonian gods seemed genuinely sorry for the genocide that they had created. The God of Noah appears to have regretted his actions as well, because he promised never to do it again.
Keep in mind the level of detail in these similarities. It’s not a matter of just a flood, but specific details: three birds sent out, resisting the call to build the ark, and a single man being chosen by God to build the ark. Then consider that the first story (Gilgamesh) came from Babylon — hundreds of years before the Bible was even written.
Do you honestly think, based on the similarities above, that those who wrote the Genesis story had not heard the Gilgamesh story? And if they had heard it, and they were simply rehashing an old, very popular tale, what does that say about the Bible?


How come the predictions of the bible are coming to pass even in modern days . Its a book of prophecy

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Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Lucifer1419: 9:03am On Dec 29, 2020
petra1:



How come the predictions of the bible are coming to pass even in modern days . Its a book of prophecy
. Nobody doubted it, all am saying is not all bible verse are � truth, and if is not � truthful, it's not writing by God, because God is � pure and truthful, I just gave you some examples of Jesus Christ in the bible, and other similar Gods has the same character like jesus christ, even before christ, jesus was a man made name, not the name of God, that's why I posted this topic for people to carefully read there bible, we are not educated for nothing, why can't we ask questions for what we don't understand.
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Abohboy: 10:17am On Dec 29, 2020
petra1:



How come the predictions of the bible are coming to pass even in modern days . Its a book of prophecy

Like what the predictions of the ifa divination have consistently come true last year in June they did an odu ifa for the coming year and it read coming tragedy caused by our negative social environment and that of our enemies, guess what struck the following year a pandemic a sudden tragedy which was caused by the negative social environment of people that being eating bats.

Odu ifa also predicted the victory of Buhari, added to that the yoruba creation myth makes a lot more sense then any other creation myth, and in the creation myth it talks about how the Orishas created over beings before us humans came into being, these beings were said to be human like but stronger and more spiritual, our ancestors oike homo erectus, homo nakedi were all human like and stronger if they were more spiritual we wouldn’t know

In the creation myth it also talks about how at the start there was an endless cosmos till an otherworldly being brought the gases together to collide and create the first stars. The Yoruba creation myth goes in line with the Big Bang and expansion of universes theories showing how it correlates well with science

The Yoruba religion is the most accurate religion in terms of when it’s in line with science and it accurately depicts things proven by science unlike Christianity
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Abohboy: 10:20am On Dec 29, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


As against those that believed the universe was created by an explosion?
If you look at space today you’d understand why this makes sense, how the gases came to being is unknown and how this “higher being” came to being and started the process is also unknown but by simple science it is clear that gases are constantly colliding creating stars and new solar systems over billions of years and that old starts die and give out they’re energy to create new starts one again in line with the Yoruba creation myth, where Akamura appointed an irunmole to make sure that there were cycles in the processes and that whenever an old star dies a new one is formed by that same energy, as it said in the ese
Let the dew burst out continuously
Let the dew burst out continuously
Let the dew burst across the cosmos
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by sonmvayina(m): 10:23am On Dec 29, 2020
The Torah details the beliefs of the jewish people. It was written by Ezra as he is the one who created judaism as the national religion of the jews.

It was written between 530-570BC after they left the babylonian exile. He was intructed to write it and take in along to teach his people. Most of the stories where drawn from Babylonian epics. The bible is still about the two brothers Enki and Enlil and their sons and daughters. Enki belongs to the right hand side (That would be jacob ) while Enlil the left hand side that would be Esau.

So much of what you have in the torah is drawn or where incorperated into their belief system from Babylonia.
Just as people go to America now for financial security and prosperity, people back then go to babylon to learn spirituality as it was the centre of religious learning..

The enuma elish says that When Marduk has finished creating the universe that the gods gathered round him and he informed them that he has created earth as a mirror of heaven and he was going down ro establish a human settlement in babylon. So him and his father Enki created humans. And Marduk used his own blood to do so(which only means that man is a divine being).
As man began to mutiply and expand, he made the other gods the kings and queens of those other kingdom, but he choose the jewish people as his own..(so they say, i know it is all propaganda ).

When they were messing up and worshipping the gods and goddess of the surrounding town, he (Marduk) sent Nebochadnezer his annointed servant to go and bring all of them to Babylon. Basically to know and learn about him. It was after the exile , when God(Marduk) also used Cyrus another of his annointed servant to free them , he instructed Ezra to write the Torah and take it along to teach his people...so as you will have it,most of the bible stories are drawn from babylonian epics..


The story of jesus, like i always maintained for those who will be sincere to look comes from ancient tales about Marduk. Marduk was the son of Enki and at the same time the creator of the universe. It was at the council of nicea that Athanasius said he was both god and man. And a human history was forged for him..possibly by Eusebius..Not many people liked the new religion created . They voted to either go with it or switch to Mithraism. They voted to go with christianity...

And constantines command was whosoever refused to believe in the new religion should be "Anathema" meaning as good as dead...
In other to keep thia charade on the road and moving..christianity was as deadly as islam now..killing and maining innocent souls...

If islam has killed 1000 christianity has killed 100000.
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Nobody: 1:16pm On Dec 29, 2020
Abohboy:

If you look at space today you’d understand why this makes sense, how the gases came to being is unknown and how this “higher being” came to being and started the process is also unknown but by simple science it is clear that gases are constantly colliding creating stars and new solar systems over billions of years and that old starts die and give out they’re energy to create new starts one again in line with the Yoruba creation myth, where Akamura appointed an irunmole to make sure that there were cycles in the processes and that whenever an old star dies a new one is formed by that same energy, as it said in the ese
Let the dew burst out continuously
Let the dew burst out continuously
Let the dew burst across the cosmos

What way do you think the skyscrapers in Japan came about: by people creating those buildings or by Japan being nuked? Which do you think is more likely?
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Abohboy: 2:31pm On Dec 29, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


What way do you think the skyscrapers in Japan came about: by people creating those buildings or by Japan being nuked? Which do you think is more likely?

What does this have to do with anything I said, Japan being nuked helped in part because America had to pay funds for the recovery of Japan which they used to rebuild their cities, but keeping to their culture helped them quite a lot
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Nobody: 4:35pm On Dec 29, 2020
Abohboy:


What does this have to do with anything I said, Japan being nuked helped in part because America had to pay funds for the recovery of Japan which they used to rebuild their cities, but keeping to their culture helped them quite a lot

Ok. America poured the funds in the ruins and those fragments started realigning to form those buildings? Ok. Got your point.
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by ANTIlSLAM(m): 8:29pm On Dec 29, 2020
AntiChristian:


When you are doing just like him on Islamic threads....what goes around...

As you're doing just like him on Christianity threads, so don't be pained when revealing the secrets about allah, late messenger Muhammad and islam
Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:42pm On Dec 29, 2020
When i told ATHEISTS that Atheism is another form of religion, they were all arguing profusely!

© Engaging people to twist their thoughts.
© Zealous (preaching) to carry others along.
© Condemning other sources of information.
© Promising converts a happier satisfying life.
© Gathering people to instruct them.

Atheists are doing all of these so who says Atheism is not a religion on its own? cheesy

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Re: The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence by Nobody: 7:08pm On Jan 17, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
When i told ATHEISTS that Atheism is another form of religion, they were all arguing profusely!

© Engaging people to twist their thoughts.
© Zealous (preaching) to carry others along.
© Condemning other sources of information.
© Promising converts a happier satisfying life.
© Gathering people to instruct them.

Atheists are doing all of these so who says Atheism is not a religion on its own? cheesy
Atheists and freethinkers worship Satan unknowingly.

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