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Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by Ndipe(m): 9:24am On Jan 09
I have read that the efiks are a subset of the Ibibios. Furthermore, Uruan plays a role when a chief is about to be crowned in efik-land. Irrespective, can we just get along instead of fanning the embers of tribal superiority?

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Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by Puloc(m): 10:25am On Jan 09
nsiba:
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You are only making yourself more and very STUPID, if you don't know what constitute a slave back then you can do well to read books like " The two princes of Calabar " and for who the Aros are to the Ibibios this will help that mushroom brain of yours

http://books.google.com/books?id=ez58Dwpa8JcC&pg=PA137......written by Adeile Afigbo


See complete idoit that don't know anything history.
Is it the George Bush family that can trace their family lineage to English Aristocracy that you say is not pure English?
Almost all the President in America, George Washington for a start are descendants of British Royalty, you are here comparing a society where the family trees and their genealogy can be easily traced out so easily and methodologically to one originally kicked out of their kinsfolk and later got mixed up all with all manners now living in creeks and estuaries trying to feel important.

Who adopted original what?
See this fool that has completely lost is identity, clinking on to slave merchant names from Liverpool, Leeds talking about originality
What is Anglo -Efik names?
You are romancing British names into what, in this century you still suffering from mental and colonial skavery?
Your inferiority complex is very transparent
don't mind the chap talking balderdash. he's got no prestige for his ancestry.
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by Adam09: 10:55am On Jan 09
nsiba:
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How dare you?
What insult, you rebellious and lazy lots kicked out hundred of years ago from the fold, made relevant by Europeans merchants after scavenging the creeks for periwinkles dare to utter such NONSENSE
Even the Obong a village head in any Ibibio land dare not mention such
See a fowl calling himself an Eagle

I will not exchange tribal banter with you. Please do not insult me or my tribe.
WTF is all these? Yes I am Efik and I am an Eagle and there's nothing you can do about it.
Who told you I am lazy? E'bot!
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by powerhouse3(m): 11:06am On Jan 09
Adam09:


Uraun is Efik
and where are is uraun located at?....efik or ibibio?...


when Nmandi Azikiwe leave western politics and come home ,who's the first person he met and in all the ethnic that made up eastern state then ...?


He met Nyong Essien.....and someone is here talking nonsense about ibibio
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by Norwichsailor(m): 11:13am On Jan 09
powerhouse3:
and where are is uraun located at?....efik or ibibio?...


when Nmandi Azikiwe leave western politics and come home ,who's the first person he met and in all the ethnic that made up eastern state then ...?


He met Nyong Essien.....and someone is here talking nonsense about ibibio

I feel it's beachside that created this topic, the lad can't open a thread without typing wrong facts about Akwa ibomites.

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Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by Preshob(m): 12:31pm On Jan 09
ChoCho54:
What fvckery!

So Duke and Wellington and henshaw that oyibo people named the slaves in their house for easy communication is now an elite name and aristocratic?

Go to calabar and see how they worship and adore those names. They don't joke with those names

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Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by nsiba: 12:38pm On Jan 09
Adam09:


I will not exchange tribal banter with you. Please do not insult me or my tribe.
WTF is all these? Yes I am Efik and I am an Eagle and there's nothing you can do about it.
Who told you I am lazy? E'bot!
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Then Sharap your filthy creek mouth when you got nothing to say.
Who cares if you work like a Robot, just don't go running your leak mouth anyhow

Eagle your 4kin periwinkle black ass

Ekpo Unam Ikot!

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Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by nsiba: 12:49pm On Jan 09
Norwichsailor:


I feel it's beachside that created this topic, the lad can't open a thread without typing wrong facts about Akwa ibomites.
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That pri-ck must have change his name a million times over

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Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by Norwichsailor(m): 2:04pm On Jan 09
nsiba:
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That pri-ck must have change his name a million times over
Yes. Many times. But his typing pattern hasn't changed
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by sendmeonly(m): 3:34pm On Jan 09
jjhnja44es:
True ,that's why I think Calabar which was one of the major ports in Africa and one of the ancient cities in west Africa with organized system even before colonization deserves so much more than it is today if Nigeria wasn't such a failed state ,it should be like a tourist mecca with millions of visitors each year . AFRICA WONT GROW AND THE BLACK WILL ALWAYS BE AT THE BOTTOM BECAUSE THE BLACK MAN HAS A MAJOR ISSUE RANGING FROM ENVY ,JEALOUS AND SABOTAGE. I KNOW THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT WON'T LET IT BE .
I think the Carnival and the Marina resort which includes the slave museum is a good start and there's more to come to make Calabar the entertainment capital. Also the modern international conference center and Tinapa resort was a great idea. The Cross River park and all that Hills and mountains at Akamkpa . Calabar needs good mega city planning , more international and local events to draw visitors, and housing which can accommodate many who wish to relocate permanently .


I hope to be part of the paradise soon in that nation after the emergence of a great man, I hope the Calabar people take advantage of a rare figure that the whole world is craving to have....Leader Olumba Olumba Obu is a TRUE asset, if they would be willing to let him run the state and by extension make there the capital of Nigeria
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by LondonCool(m): 3:44pm On Jan 09
Attakwu101:
Efiks enslaved and sold mostly Ibibios ,some present day Central Cross river, and Igbos from the hinterland who were captured by Arochukwu and sold to Efiks to be sold to the European Merchants. Some Efiks at the bottom of society were also sold by elite Efiks .
Efik culture was dominant and more influential. whether most of the slaves were Efiks or not, Efik culture and methods survived in the Americas.

I think a good example would be the fact that the English culture survived and thrived in North America even though the English were fewer in number. For example,you would be hard pressed to find a pure English descendant American founder . Most white Americans today are actually German,Dutch ,Irish,Scottish,Italian descendants who adopted English names to fit in , as oppose to the original English whose culture was Dominant though had smaller population. Donald Trump , George Bush, John Kennedy,Hulk Hogan are not English blood like George Washington , Bill Clinton,Abraham Lincoln, or Andrew Jackson.
And in the Akwacross area today you can see the same pattern played out as Ibibio and annang adopted original Efik names and methods .names such as Bassey , Essien, Ekanem,Edet, Inyang, Etim, Edem,Ansa,Ekeng,, etc. They were not allowed to adopt some elite Anglo Efik names such as Ironbar, Duke,Henshaw, Hogan,Yellow-duke,Archibong, Effiom, etc. Those names were maintained in small circles and traced to lineage.


Don't know if you are right, but sounds interesting

He’s right

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Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by LondonCool(m): 4:12pm On Jan 09
DissTroy:

I already stated it and have written on Nsibidi over the course of my time on this forum and on other fora.

The Ekpe cult is typically in Ibiono Ibom LGA of Akwa Ibom State. The Ekpe cult members were and still are the custodians of the Nsibidi form of writing which is similar to Hieroglyphics when analyzed.

One of main headquarters of slavetrade was along the shore of the Ibeno-Ikot Abasi area and Efik slaves along with slaves from the hinterlands where he Annangs and hinterland Ibibios reside.

About Akwa Ibom (chiefly Ibibios) being better than and dominating Cross River (sparsely Efiks) in ways I have mentioned in my preceding post: It's stating the obvious. Culturally and historically, the Ibibios have always dominated the Efiks and her neighbours. It has continued even till this day. Heck! Even the first civilian governor of Cross River State was an Ibibio man (Clement Isong).

The OP trying to hoodwink the reading public with false tales of 'never-was' had to be challenged. And asides ridiculing him here, my earlier dare still stands: We should both compare valid notes, records (including pictorial evidence) about the dominance or not of the Ibibios in the AkwaCross region.

Don't stoke embers of seething hatred with firewood of falsehoods.

If you claim that the Ekpe cult is of Ibiono Ibom origin can you kindly mention how many Ekpe grades the Efe Ekpe ( if any ) at Ibiono Ibom they have and whom they were purchased from?

The only Ekpe lodge in Akwa Ibom is at Ekpe Efe Ekomo at Uyo, at Itu and at Oron. This can be confirmed from the recent UNESCO field work study into the curation of the Ekpe institution in the Cross River region and Cameroon.

The Efiks are much fewer in number than the Ibibio’s ( by even a ratio of 1:12) but by fortitude of their location by the River side came into contact with the British traders/Supercargoes who established trading relationships with the Efik chiefs during the slave trade era.

Most of the slaves taken away were Ibibio’s and Igbo’s (and Efik indigenes who were being punished). As a result of the trading relationship the Efik culture and language became the dominant language in the area.

The orthography for Efik language was written in 1876. The orthography for Ibibio was written in 1982 by Prof Okon Esien. Until now in Akwa Ibom the Bible being used in churches there is the Efik Bible. Even Prophesy in Akwa Ibom churches is done in Efik language. This is the result of long lasting influence of cultural assimilation of the Efik by the Ibibio’s.

Can you kindly mention one single cultural and historical influence Ibibio’s have on the Efik?

You copied and assimilated our Efik names, dance, wedding costumes, food and language.

Historically, what is the oldest secondary school or hospital or building in Akwa Ibom State? When did you start having Christian churches in Akwa Ibom?

You mentioned Gov Clement Isong, he’s got nothing to do with the discussion. I’m sure you were not old enough to see him or even Gov U.J.Esuene.

Ibibio's are much more in numerical strength than the Efik, that had always been the case since the first general election in Nigeria in 1923 when they were only 4 Federal Legislative Seats in Nigeria. 3 Seats were allocated to Lagos and 1 was given to Calabar under the 1922 Cliffords constitution.

Let’s move on and not distort history or try to claim ethnic superiority over each other. If you are in doubt read up on history books by E.U.Aye, Rev Hugh Goldie, Dr K.K. Nair, A.T.H. Latham, Percy Talbot, Prof Monday Noah, Prof Abasiattai, Prof Okon Uya, Prof Afigbo, et al

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Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by Puloc(m): 10:52pm On Jan 09
LondonCool:


If you claim that the Ekpe cult is of Ibiono Ibom origin can you kindly mention how many Ekpe grades the Efe Ekpe ( if any ) at Ibiono Ibom they have and whom they were purchased from?

The only Ekpe lodge in Akwa Ibom is at Ekpe Efe Ekomo at Uyo, at Itu and at Oron. This can be confirmed from the recent UNESCO field work study into the curation of the Ekpe institution in the Cross River region and Cameroon.

The Efiks are much fewer in number than the Ibibio’s ( by even a ratio of 1:12) but by fortitude of their location by the River side came into contact with the British traders/Supercargoes who established trading relationships with the Efik chiefs during the slave trade era.

Most of the slaves taken away were Ibibio’s and Igbo’s (and Efik indigenes who were being punished). As a result of the trading relationship the Efik culture and language became the dominant language in the area.

The orthography for Efik language was written in 1876. The orthography for Ibibio was written in 1982 by Prof Okon Esien. Until now in Akwa Ibom the Bible being used in churches there is the Efik Bible. Even Prophesy in Akwa Ibom churches is done in Efik language. This is the result of long lasting influence of cultural assimilation of the Efik by the Ibibio’s.

Can you kindly mention one single cultural and historical influence Ibibio’s have on the Efik?

You copied and assimilated our Efik names, dance, wedding costumes, food and language.

Historically, what is the oldest secondary school or hospital or building in Akwa Ibom State? When did you start having Christian churches in Akwa Ibom?

You mentioned Gov Clement Isong, he’s got nothing to do with the discussion. I’m sure you were not old enough to see him or even Gov U.J.Esuene.

Ibibio's are much more in numerical strength than the Efik, that had always been the case since the first general election in Nigeria in 1923 when they were only 4 Federal Legislative Seats in Nigeria. 3 Seats were allocated to Lagos and 1 was given to Calabar under the 1922 Cliffords constitution.

Let’s move on and not distort history or try to claim ethnic superiority over each other. If you are in doubt read up on history books by E.U.Aye, Rev Hugh Goldie, Dr K.K. Nair, A.T.H. Latham, Percy Talbot, Prof Monday Noah, Prof Abasiattai, Prof Okon Uya, Prof Afigbo, et al
I didn't know u Efik people have such a wrong view of things. U were neither born in those days as I but I'll assure u that efik had its prestige in Calabar being a Colonial town and a port town. as for culture and traditions, the ibibio is far more overwhelming as it includes even u Efik and other sub groups even to the arochukwu I'm abia state. u cannot compare a small sub group to a larger subgroup of influences. don't be tied to write view. history teaches us to admit d obvious. anyway wat u need is to develop Calabar else it keeps dwindling into Oblivion.
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by nsiba: 12:13am On Jan 10
LondonCool:


If you claim that the Ekpe cult is of Ibiono Ibom origin can you kindly mention how many Ekpe grades the Efe Ekpe ( if any ) at Ibiono Ibom they have and whom they were purchased from?

The only Ekpe lodge in Akwa Ibom is at Ekpe Efe Ekomo at Uyo, at Itu and at Oron. This can be confirmed from the recent UNESCO field work study into the curation of the Ekpe institution in the Cross River region and Cameroon.

The Efiks are much fewer in number than the Ibibio’s ( by even a ratio of 1:12) but by fortitude of their location by the River side came into contact with the British traders/Supercargoes who established trading relationships with the Efik chiefs during the slave trade era.

Most of the slaves taken away were Ibibio’s and Igbo’s (and Efik indigenes who were being punished). As a result of the trading relationship the Efik culture and language became the dominant language in the area.

The orthography for Efik language was written in 1876. The orthography for Ibibio was written in 1982 by Prof Okon Esien. Until now in Akwa Ibom the Bible being used in churches there is the Efik Bible. Even Prophesy in Akwa Ibom churches is done in Efik language. This is the result of long lasting influence of cultural assimilation of the Efik by the Ibibio’s.

Can you kindly mention one single cultural and historical influence Ibibio’s have on the Efik?

You copied and assimilated our Efik names, dance, wedding costumes, food and language.

Historically, what is the oldest secondary school or hospital or building in Akwa Ibom State? When did you start having Christian churches in Akwa Ibom?

You mentioned Gov Clement Isong, he’s got nothing to do with the discussion. I’m sure you were not old enough to see him or even Gov U.J.Esuene.

Ibibio's are much more in numerical strength than the Efik, that had always been the case since the first general election in Nigeria in 1923 when they were only 4 Federal Legislative Seats in Nigeria. 3 Seats were allocated to Lagos and 1 was given to Calabar under the 1922 Cliffords constitution.

Let’s move on and not distort history or try to claim ethnic superiority over each other. If you are in doubt read up on history books by E.U.Aye, Rev Hugh Goldie, Dr K.K. Nair, A.T.H. Latham, Percy Talbot, Prof Monday Noah, Prof Abasiattai, Prof Okon Uya, Prof Afigbo, et al



Let me go bottom up,

Is it Prof. Okon Uya that gave a public apology to the Ibibios about his fallacious and unprofessional works you dare recommend to who?
You should have added E N Amaku and his useless books too.

In his book " Mission to Calabar ", Rev. Goldie vividly describe who the people that called themselves Efik who they are.
Randy L Sparks in " The two prince of Calabar", sheds more light I will recommend you read books like that on others and not the above names you mentioned.

How does the Bible transmission into Efik aid the assimilation?
I wonder how you lot reason, even the the Urauan and the Oku iboku stock of the early settlers that settled into what is now called Efiks took with with them the oral tradition of where they came out from, is it the merchants ways of life from Bristol, Liverpool that has eroded you present lots that has influence the CORE mainland.
Do you see us answering Ironbar, Hogan, Yellow Duke? How many people can read the Bible if they aren't taught on how to read in Efik instead of their native tongue

People that lives in the creek are now the once that influenced the ones that plants food on land?
You taught em how to dance, names cook and their ways of life. The Uraun marriage rite is now your custom? What insolence

where in anywhere is the Obong of Calabar revered in Ibibios soil and rivers?

QUA IBOE church founded and rooted on this soil, despite your childish "first this, first that" talk, name me one Christian church solely dedicated to Calabar or has it roots in Calabar?
I won't go further on any first rubbish!

On Slaves trade, let me refresh that brain of yours"......from Rev. Hugh Goldie".....
This compulsory migration seems
to have occurred in the seventeenth or more probably in
the beginning of the eighteenth century. They obtained
land from the Qua, the Okoyong, and the Ibibio tribes on
which to form their settlements. They report that their
fathers, when they came down the river, found ships carry-
ing on the slave trade, and, locating themselves nearer
to the coast, they shut off those behind them from com-
munication. with the European shipping"....So, is it those that already knew the trade they now traded on?

And if you care to read the other book, you will know Princes, Wives of Chiefs can be slaves and Slaves can be king. Like King Eyo Honesty who was an Ettebom( head of Canoes)

As for the AROs, they are Ibos and Ibibio mixtures who usurped their Ibibio chief

The leopard cult society is not a standardized practice in the entire region, it varies from clans to clans, there is no CENTRAL leader.
In AkwaIbom, from time immemorial Uyo is a child play to the Old Itu division which Ibiono Ibom and Itu makes up, no UNESCO recognition will take that from our history like you present mixtures of so called Efiks do as a signature to your lost heritage.


There is no supremacy battle here, but a subset can NEVER influence the SET
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by Blueoceantrips(m): 12:38am On Jan 10
Explain further lease
etrouble:


Na everybody dey praise himself? What about the Jesus of Calabar that you transported to Jerusalem and now renamed Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Nonsense without ingredients.
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by donnie(m): 4:25am On Jan 10
nsiba:
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While some say it is Burutu in Ijaw land, some say Ghanians, another claim Ethiopian falashuas and you are here claiming that charcoal burnt black ass of yours Israelites.
Inferiority complex has not only washed out what is left in that brain of yours but also pathetic wannabe Jews.


donnie you don start this your MADNESS again

Will you shut up your mouth! Yes some Efiks migrated to Ghana as well, so what? But it is inferiority complex and thorough brainwashing you received from your white slavemasters that makes it hard for you to believe that the people of the book were actually black people and not whites.

The land you call ISREAL today is fake. Even the name is fake (ISRAEL = ISIS, RA and EL) alluding to pagan deities. The people there are decendants of EDOM who mixed with alien blood, hence their leprous color. They are not bloodline decendants of YAKUBI who are the Bantus/Negroes below the Sarah-Haran (Sahara) desert.

Now you can take your sorry bewitched arse back to where you crawled out from.

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Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by nsiba: 5:45am On Jan 10
donnie:


Will you shut up your mouth! Yes some Efiks migrated to Ghana as well, so what? But it is inferiority complex and thorough brainwashing you received from your white slavemasters that makes it hard for you to believe that the people of the book were actually black people and not whites.

The land you call ISREAL today is fake. Even the name is fake (ISRAEL = ISIS, RA and EL) alluding to pagan deities. The people there are decendants of EDOM who mixed with alien blood, hence their leprous color. They are not bloodline decendants of YAKUBI who are the Bantus/Negroes below the Sarah-Haran (Sahara) desert.

Now you can take your sorry bewitched arse to where you crawled out from.
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Here comes the KING of Cracked brain himself...the JEW wannabe #1 himself, a very worthless nonentity

https://www.nairaland.com/6099559/ibibio-jews-nigeria-barry-floyd.

In the above foolishness you wrote in 2020 I ask you to explain your stupidity theory of
* How the Europeans that you claimed were educated by us, had us expelled to Spain and Portugal, came over to Spain and Portugal and expelled us back to Africa and finally came back to Africa and for the 3rd time, expelled us again but this time around as slave to the Americas.

This is 2021, you this good for nothing Scallywag and scattered brain you are yet to answer me instead you go upandan the entire NAIRALAND if not wailing Ibibios are Jews it is one useless thing or the other

This is 2021 I vow to make your JEW forsaken miserable life more miserable than anything....

IDAD!
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by donnie(m): 7:57am On Jan 10
nsiba:
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Here comes the KING of Cracked brain himself...the JEW wannabe #1 himself, a very worthless nonentity

https://www.nairaland.com/6099559/ibibio-jews-nigeria-barry-floyd.

In the above foolishness you wrote in 2020 I ask you to explain your stupidity theory of
* How the Europeans that you claimed were educated by us, had us expelled to Spain and Portugal, came over to Spain and Portugal and expelled us back to Africa and finally came back to Africa and for the 3rd time, expelled us again but this time around as slave to the Americas.

This is 2021, you this good for nothing Scallywag and scattered brain you are yet to answer me instead you go upandan the entire NAIRALAND if not wailing Ibibios are Jews it is one useless thing or the other

This is 2021 I vow to make your JEW forsaken miserable life more miserable than anything....

IDAD!


The Israelites have been in captivity obviously more times than your watery brain can analyse.

From Egypt, to Assyria, to Babylon to Persia, to Greece, to Rome, to Europe (France, Spain, Portugal etc) to United States and even via colonialism and neo-colonialism.

Ancient Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians were black Africans. Israelites were held captive in the region today known as the Sahel, stretching from South Sudan to Mali.

The Greek and Roman captivities took place from East to Southern Africa. The Israelites who Conquered Spain and Portugal (in the year 711) along with the MOORS were Bantus who migrated from the continent that is today called Africa. They were later expelled by King John III in 1492 to the West coast of Africa during the Inquisition.

The whole bible took place in what is today called Africa, something your black idiotic mind finds hard to phatom.

Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by nsiba: 10:58am On Jan 10
donnie:
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The Israelites have been in captivity obviously more times than your watery brain can analyse.

From Egypt, to Assyria, to Babylon to Persia, to Greece, to Rome, to Europe (France, Spain, Portugal etc) to United States and even via colonialism and neo-colonialism.

Ancient Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians were black Africans. Israelites were held captive in the region today known as the Sahel, stretching from South Sudan to Mali.

The Greek and Roman captivities took place from East to Southern Africa. The Israelites who Conquered Spain and Portugal (in the year 711) along with the MOORS were Bantus who migrated from the continent that is today called Africa. They were later expelled by King John III in 1492 to the West coast of Africa during the Inquisition.

The whole bible took place in what is today called Africa, something your black idiotic mind finds hard to phatom.
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Maggot infested brain of the highest order, so Moors who are Muslims worked side by with Jews to ransack Spain and Portugal, then in 1492 this so called Moors and Bantus later got expelled back to their origin by the people they lord over while already my ancestors have been in the West Coast long before your 1492 mad man Calendar date.
Then the so called Portuguese after expelling them, still came down to trade with them both in materials and slaves? Are you sure you ain't supposed to be locked up in an ASSYLUM, you irredeemable lunatic...

So in 1492 you think the Ibibios, Binis, Yorubas and others haven't been living in their present abode long before then?
The blackness of your brain can kill an elephant, you are beyond USELESS
The whole bible event not only took place in Africa, but inside your fathers bedroom.....
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by donnie(m): 11:16am On Jan 10
You're an idiot... Unable to comprehend simple things. Did I say all negroes or Bantus migrated into Spain and Portugal? Olodo.
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by donnie(m): 11:16am On Jan 10
nsiba:
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Maggot infested brain of the highest order, so Moors who are Muslims worked side by with Jews to ransack Spain and Portugal, then in 1492 this so called Moors and Bantus later got expelled back to their origin by the people they lord over while already my ancestors have been in the West Coast long before your ,1492 mad man Calendar date.
Then the so called Portuguese after expelling them, still came down to trade with them both in materials and slaves? Are you sure you ain't supposed to be locked up in an ASSYLUM your irredeemable lunatic...

So in 1492 you think the Ibibios, Binis, Yorubas and others haven't been living in their present abode long before then?
The blackness of your brain can kill an elephant, you are beyond USELESS
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The idiot in you will not allow you to see that not every single Bantu left the continent. Bantu migrants left North Africa and migrated into Spain and Portugal through Morocco.

The buffoon that you are cannot see that it was The Moors/Arabs and Fulanis who later sold Bantus/Negroes/ISOLELE for slaves, first during the Arab slave trade and later during the transatlantic slave trade. They came on horses and kidnapped our people in the forests and sold to the portugese at the shores. The Portuguese knew exactly who they took for slaves because they put the children of YAHUNDE (JUDAH) there. They knew they were taking JUDAH into captivity. At this time also, there were already ISOLELE (Isrealites) of the Northern kingdom in West Africa as well and also of the Southern Kingdom from Nigeria/Cameroon boarder to KONGO and down to southern Africa.

Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by nsiba: 2:07pm On Jan 10
donnie:



The idiot in you will not allow you to see that not every single Bantu left the continent. Bantu migrants left North Africa and migrated into Spain and Portugal through Morocco.

The buffoon that you are cannot see that it was The Moors/Arabs and Fulanis who later sold Bantus/Negroes/ISOLELE for slaves, first during the Arab slave trade and later during the transatlantic slave trade. They came on horses and kidnapped our people in the forests and sold to the portugese at the shores. The Portuguese knew exactly who they took for slaves because they put the children of YAHUNDE (JUDAH) there. They knew they were taking JUDAH into captivity. At this time also, there were already ISOLELE (Isrealites) of the Northern kingdom in West Africa as well and also of the Southern Kingdom from Nigeria/Cameroon boarder to KONGO and down to southern Africa.
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God punish you worthless rooster sucking wandering miserable vagabond, I can see the lunancy in you is introducing "some" and Arab shey
Lemme get to my destination first and better get ready that demonic hideous brain of yours cause that is where you will be injected....... 1492 Jew wannabe lunatic
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by nsiba: 4:48pm On Jan 10
donnie,
So the expelled Bantus that taught the Spanish/Portuguese civilization and how to brush there teeth according to your Lunacy theorem, underestimated their students who later came to expelled them?

What time did the Portuguese put the YA HUNDE( God help me with this lunacy names of yours) there?

What happened to the expelled inquisition Bantus that was expelled to the West Coast of Africa and the ISOLELE in Nigeria down to Congo, what brought them to where your lunacy theorem say they were?
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by donnie(m): 5:50pm On Jan 10
nsiba:
donnie,
So the expelled Bantus that taught the Spanish/Portuguese civilization and how to brush there teeth according to your Lunacy theorem, underestimated their students who later came to expelled them?

What time did the Portuguese put the YA HUNDE( God help me with this lunacy names of yours) there?

What happened to the expelled inquisition Bantus that was expelled to the West Coast of Africa and the ISOLELE in Nigeria down to Congo, what brought them to where your lunacy theorem say they were?

The bolded is exactly what happened. We are naturally a kind people. We let those white devils into our culture, our worship, our military etc. And we also accepted their pagan customs and traditions resulting in judgement from YAH.

The INQUISITION began with an edict from the pope, and a decree to forcefully convert all Bantus (Isrealites) to Christianity. They had the option of conversion, slavery or death. Children were seperated from their parents and forcefully baptised. This played into the 1500s and even 1600s, even up till this day. The slave trade was a direct result, and accompanied by the Pope's blessing. Even colonialism and neo-colonialism are the result of this movement to overturn and destroy every trace of black dominion, civilization or history.

They began rewriting the scriptures, and history. Even art works were changed with the RENNEISANCE. It's at this point (1500s) that white Jesus and white ISRAEL were cooked up. The people of the book had always been known to be black. The entire bible story happened in Africa. There are several lost cities and kingdoms buried under dust in the Sarah-Haran (Sahara) desert which is actually the TRUE region of Mesopotamia. There are government restructions in certain locations of Southern Africa, including the location of the ancient city and temple of Jerusalem. Edomites (white people) have refused to let go of the region.

Paintings and artwork in Egypt and Ethiopia where Christianity began show MESSIAH as a black man. Ancient history books and maps support the truth about black domination and rulership of this world.

But unfortunately, we still have black devils like you who relish in idiocy and the lies, witchcraft and confusion of white man.

So I am not trying to encourage your stupidity. I only reply because I know many are reading and learning their TRUE history.
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by nsiba: 7:55pm On Jan 10
donnie:


The bolded is exactly what happened. We are naturally a kind people. We let those white devils into our culture, our worship, our military etc. And we also accepted their pagan customs and traditions resulting in judgement from YAH.

The INQUISITION began with an edict from the pope, and a decree to forcefully convert all Bantus (Isrealites) to Christianity. They had the option of conversion, slavery or death. Children were seperated from their parents and forcefully baptised. This played into the 1500s and even 1600s, even up till this day. The slave trade was a direct result, and accompanied by the Pope's blessing. Even colonialism and neo-colonialism are the result of this movement to overturn and destroy every trace of black dominion, civilization or history.

They began rewriting the scriptures, and history. Even art works were changed with the RENNEISANCE. It's at this point (1500s) that white Jesus and white ISRAEL were cooked up. The people of the book had always been known to be black. The entire bible story happened in Africa. There are several lost cities and kingdoms buried under dust in the Sarah-Haran (Sahara) desert which is actually the TRUE region of Mesopotamia. There are government restructions in certain locations of Southern Africa, including the location of the ancient city and temple of Jerusalem. Edomites (white people) have refused to let go of the region.

Paintings and artwork in Egypt and Ethiopia where Christianity began show MESSIAH as a black man. Ancient history books and maps support the truth about black domination and rulership of this world.

But unfortunately, we still have black devils like you who relish in idiocy and the lies, witchcraft and confusion of white man.

So I am not trying to encourage your stupidity. I only reply because I know many are reading and learning their TRUE history.
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Wonderful!


** As the Inquisition was going on in Spain/Portugal so the entire Europe ( England, France, Germany etc) were all busy re- writing history 1492 and at the same time sending down missionaries down here teaching us Jesus is White?

So the Protestant Churches that broked away from the Catholic church all came together to deceive Africa?

So before 1500 black Jesus wasnt cooked up?
When did the Lutheran Church break away from the Catholic fold?
When did Anglican, Presbyterian and others broke out, were they teaching BLACK JESUS?

What manner of LUNACY run inside that maggot brain of yours
Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by donnie(m): 9:04am On Jan 11
nsiba:
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Wonderful!

** As the Inquisition was going on in Spain/Portugal so the entire Europe ( England, France, Germany etc) were all busy re- writing history 1492 and at the same time sending down missionaries down here teaching us Jesus is White?

So the Protestant Churches that broked away from the Catholic church all came together to deceive Africa?

So before 1500 black Jesus wasnt cooked up?
When did the Lutheran Church break away from the Catholic fold?
When did Anglican, Presbyterian and others broke out, were they teaching BLACK JESUS?

What manner of LUNACY run inside that maggot brain of yours



It's a global conspiracy dummy. Not against Africa but against the children of ISOLELE (Isreal) below the Sarah-Haran (Sahara) desert.

Psalms 83:2-8
[2]For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
[3]They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
[4]They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
[5]For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

[6]The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
[7]Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
[8]Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

Re: How Carnival, Efik Calabar Culture Was Transported To Caribbean by nsiba: 5:11pm On Jan 11
donnie:
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It's a global conspiracy dummy. Not against Africa but against the children of ISOLELE (Isreal) below the Sarah-Haran (Sahara) desert.

Psalms 83:2-8
[2]For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
[3]They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
[4]They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
[5]For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

[6]The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
[7]Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
[8]Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
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Who gives a Bleep about the POPE
So you mean WHITE Jesus was introduced because of sub Saharan Africans?
Asians, Native Americans and Arabs weren't taken into the considerations?

* But all this Gibberish you are spewing, you mean to tell me that you very well know more than the Ethopian Christians, Coptics and the long suffering Christians in the Middle east that?

donnie, do you know the Jews, Romans and Christianity more than the Ethiopians?

Crack head, where are you cooking all this from?

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