Wherever you may be, death will reach you even if you are in fortresses built up strong and high. Yet if some good befalls them, they say: “This is from Allah” and if an evil befalls them, they say: “This is from you”. Say: “All is from Allah”. But what is wrong with these people that they fail to understand the word?

Suratul Nisai vs 78

Both evils and goods come from God

I am sorry my friend, even the Bible says that many are called but few are choosen.
Must pastors in Nigeria are fake.

He obviously doesn't understand what faith is.

thorpido:
He obviously doesn't understand what faith is.

If it is by faith, we should not have any disabled left.

Biodun556:


If it is by faith, we should not have any disabled left.

...for all men have not faith.... 2Thess 3:2

same thing also happen in the bible when jesus sees the person doesn't have an iota of faith, he took him away and create him with brand new eye.... I don't know that passage... that is the with no eye

If it's the will of God..it will be done

thorpido:
He obviously doesn't understand what faith is.

Is this sarcasm?

abeniagbon:
same thing also happen in the bible when jesus sees the person doesn't have an iota of faith, he took him away and create him with brand new eye.... I don't know that passage... that is the with no eye

Are you trying to throw Jesus Christ under the bus here is something?

Jesus Christ is recorded to have healed so many, sinners included, so what has "faith" got to do with this?

The bible says with man Nothing is impossible, a Pastor is just a vessel and its God that will determine if its time for him to answer a prayer. When God is ready hell act, God does not work with Human calendar or clock but he does things at his own time. So its no Pastors fault you were not healed. I remembered when I was very sick and I thought I would die I prayed to God and still nothing happened. So I want you to know sometimes God allows some things to happen to teach you patience and resilience.

Kobojunkie:
Is this sarcasm?

No.
The people who have been praying for him were exercising their faith.

If it's the will of God..it will be done

thorpido:
No.
The people who have been praying for him were exercising their faith.

So did Jesus Christ teach us to "exercise" our faith or did He directly command His followers to simply heal the sick?

I take it that by "exercising their faith", you mean something similar to trying their luck as to whether they can heal or not. But when Jesus Christ commanded the sick to be healed, was He in fact healing the sick or "exercising" His faith?

thorpido:
He obviously doesn't understand what faith is.

That physically challenged young man has discovered the theatrics packaged as healing.
Continue DECEIVING yourself.

Janosky:

That physically challenged young man has discovered the theatrics packaged as healing.
Continue DECEIVING yourself.

They want to heal disabled reach man son leaving the poor ones on the street.

Janosky:

That physically challenged young man has discovered the theatrics packaged as healing.
Continue DECEIVING yourself.

The help of God is for those who believe.
You trust your own abilities....so be it for you.

Kobojunkie:
So did Jesus Christ teach us to "exercise" our faith or did He directly command His followers to simply heal the sick?

I take it that by "exercising their faith", you mean something similar to trying their luck as to whether they can heal or not. But when Jesus Christ commanded the sick to be healed, was He in fact healing the sick or "exercising" His faith?

The simple meaning of 'exercise' is to put to use,put into action ,to operate...
If you command someone to heal,it simply means to put to use his faith and heal the sick.
If a man does not have faith in the first place how will the 'command' of Jesus work?
'Exercising your faith' is NOT trying your luck.The Bible does not teach that.

Yes,when Jesus commanded the sick to be healed,He was 'exercising' His faith(putting it to use).
By the way,faith means complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
Yes,when Jesus commanded the sick to be healed,He was 'exercising'(putting to use) His 'faith'(trust and confidence in the Father and in His abilities).

You're just complicating things where there's no need to Kobojunkie

thorpido:
The simple meaning of 'exercise' is to put to use,put into action ,to operate...
If you command someone to heal,it simply means to put to use his faith and heal the sick.
If a man does not have faith in the first place how will the 'command' of Jesus work?
'Exercising your faith' is NOT trying your luck.The Bible does not teach that.

Yes,when Jesus commanded the sick to be healed,He was 'exercising' His faith(putting it to use).
By the way,faith means complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
Yes,when Jesus commanded the sick to be healed,He was 'exercising'(putting to use) His 'faith'(trust and confidence in the Father and in His abilities).

You're just complicating things where there's no need to Kobojunkie

I am afraid all you have done is regurgiate the textbook definitions that have been fed you by your pastors and preachers who themselves are clueless as far as the things of God.

Jesus Christ never asked His followers to "exercise" their faith. In the Gospels, He spoke instead of the HAVING of Faith, the MEASURE of Faith, the IMPACT of little faith, as well as the INCREASING of Faith...but never the exercising of or using it Faith. He never once said anything like "use your faith" or "exercise your faith" -that instead comes from the doctrines and teachings of men who suppose that faith refers to some more mental gymnastics as belief in God is perceived by some.

Kobojunkie:

I am afraid all you have done is regurgiate the textbook definitions that have been fed you by your pastors and preachers who themselves are clueless as far as the things of God.

Jesus Christ never asked His followers to "exercise" their faith. In the Gospels, He spoke instead of the HAVING of Faith, the MEASURE of Faith, the IMPACT of little faith, as well as the INCREASING of Faith...but never the exercising of or using it Faith. He never once said anything like "use your faith" or "exercise your faith" -that instead comes from the doctrines and teachings of men who suppose that faith refers to some more mental gymnastics as belief in God is perceived by some.

So pastors wrote English dictionaries? Your hatred of pastors and churches has got you befuddled.
You said Jesus spoke of HAVING faith.So if you have faith what do you do with it?Keep it,bury it like in the parable of the talents?

thorpido:
The help of God is for those who believe.
You trust your own abilities....so be it for you.

I have neighbors who are physically challenged & is a pastor/deacon in a "miracle working, healing Church."
Bros, charity begins at home.

Biodun556:

If it is by faith, we should not have any disabled left.

So you are now God who knows those who have faith

Janosky:

I have neighbors who are physically challenged & is a pastor/deacon in a "miracle working, healing Church."
Bros, charity begins at home.

Why Jesus didn't save Judas despite working with him for years?

Just as I have a neighbor who are Jehovah witnesses, who fornicate and hate his fellow non JWs neighbors.

Emusan:


So you are now God who knows those who have faith

IF