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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 12:55pm On Feb 10
Poorboy:
let me start with the previous question, I don't know anyother animal you can pair with goat aside cow. The goats eats the grasses randomly and depending on how many days they graze on a particular spot they can eat the grass to ground level.

And as long as you water the grasses after grazing it will grow again before the next rotation to that particular grazing land.

this is my last question.......
yes, they are more expensive and the meat is smaller to that of the Hausa goat, may be that is while the Hausa goat is more preferred. But my major concern is, since its obvious the dwarf goat would always surpass the Hausa goat, and people dont buy the dwarf goat like that, how do i sell them fast? For Hausa goat, you would see just one Amala joint that buys 5-7 Hausa goat weekly, but i have never seen where the dwarf is used like that, so how do i handle this kind of issue?


is it a must i partitioned the land or i just leave them in the whole land space to graze?
OPTION A
if i partition the land lets say into A B C, its means i would have to make them graze on land A for let me say some days, depends on the size of the land, buy the time they move to land B, the grass on land A would have start going again and the process continues

OPTION B
If they are left on the vast land avail which is fenced, it means they would be moving around, eating whatever available grass they see. some might be in land A, while some might be in LAND C, but as they roam about any area that has been eaten today, would surly grow tomorrow.

Please which of the above option is preferable?
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 1:15pm On Feb 10
okine4real:


this is my last question.......
yes, they are more expensive and the meat is smaller to that of the Hausa goat, may be that is while the Hausa goat is more preferred. But my major concern is, since its obvious the dwarf goat would always surpass the Hausa goat, and people dont buy the dwarf goat like that, how do i sell them fast? For Hausa goat, you would see just one Amala joint that buys 5-7 Hausa goat weekly, but i have never seen where the dwarf is used like that, so how do i handle this kind of issue?


is it a must i partitioned the land or i just leave them in the whole land space to graze?
OPTION A
if i partition the land lets say into A B C, its means i would have to make them graze on land A for let me say some days, depends on the size of the land, buy the time they move to land B, the grass on land A would have start going again and the process continues

OPTION B
If they are left on the vast land avail which is fenced, it means they would be moving around, eating whatever available grass they see. some might be in land A, while some might be in LAND C, but as they roam about any area that has been eaten today, would surly grow tomorrow.

Please which of the above option is preferable?
Option A is better.



For selling the goats the dwarf goat is a special type of goat that is eaten by those that know the difference. So buyers will always come around that's when you will need a marketing strategy.

As business I think you rear both breed of goat's.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 3:34pm On Feb 10
Poorboy:
Option A is better.



For selling the goats the dwarf goat is a special type of goat that is eaten by those that know the difference. So buyers will always come around that's when you will need a marketing strategy.

As business I think you rear both breed of goat's.


what advice do you have regards about grass i quoted before.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 5:05pm On Feb 10
okine4real:


what advice do you have regards about grass i quoted before.
the grasses you quoted above I can't identify them with the names you posted.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 4:19pm On Feb 18
Have been doing research and also putting things in place. Am trying to use this goat business as a side hustle. My land is fenced round already. i have built the room where my worker( Aboki) would stay. Am roofing the place presently. i have borehole on the land already, just to roof self contain, its taking around 250k. The windows taking more than 60k. The thing know easy ohh. I have to buy at least 10 ton of filling sand,i hope the 10 ton would be enough, after that, i would have to do German floor. Aboki go enjoy ohh. Once am done with this, i would check for other things that needs to be put in place, once that is done, i would move to Osun where i would be buying the goats. where i work, a woman doing amala buys hausa goat for 30-35k. i need to study this business, this goat business is going to be my cryptocurrency business.

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 4:56pm On Mar 24
i have started Turkey rearing. My plan is too do Turkey and Goat. today makes it one week my a day old turkey arrived. I would create a new thread for it and paste the link here for you guys too follow.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Kingdemu: 6:52pm On Mar 24
okine4real:
i have started Turkey rearing. My plan is too do Turkey and Goat. today makes it one week my a day old turkey arrived. I would create a new thread for it and paste the link here for you guys too follow.
What's up with goats? Any updates? I'm in the North if you might have any enquires. Good luck
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 1:24pm On Mar 25
Kingdemu:
What's up with goats? Any updates? I'm in the North if you might have any enquires. Good luck

I would start the goat soon. You know my land big small, so am trying too see what and what I can do on the land. So I want to rear Turkey also. Since I would not be there permanently, I would need to higher an Aboki that would be on the land permanently, so am trying to see if I can use profit from Turkey too pay him his salary.

I bought a day old turkey, today makes it one week I have them at my backyard, so far about 22 has is dead. Only one died of natural cause, the rest died as a result of some technical fault. I would not put the causes here, I would be taking note of my experience and I would put it in a book, I will sell the book for a token, the cost of my dead Turkey must be recovered. I know be scape goat now abi? So far the Turkey dey do well sha, they eat well and drink well. I have all the drugs for them also.

For the goat, soon I will buy them, am rounding off the Aboki house, as am typing, am doing German floor and plastering for the Aboki house. After that may be connecting light too the place would be next. The cost of building house now na die, so make I see if Animal farming has something profitable for me

Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Kingdemu: 1:46pm On Mar 25
okine4real:


I would start the goat soon. You know my land big small, so am trying too see what and what I can do on the land. So I want to rear Turkey also. Since I would not be there permanently, I would need to higher an Aboki that would be on the land permanently, so am trying to see if I can use profit from Turkey too pay him his salary.

I bought a day old turkey, today makes it one week I have them at my backyard, so far about 22 has is dead. Only one died of natural cause, the rest died as a result of some technical fault. I would not put the causes here, I would be taking note of my experience and I would put it in a book, I will sell the book for a token, the cost of my dead Turkey must be recovered. I know be scape goat now abi? So far the Turkey dey do well sha, they eat well and drink well. I have all the drugs for them also.

For the goat, soon I will buy them, am rounding off the Aboki house, as am typing, am doing German floor and plastering for the Aboki house. After that may be connecting light too the place would be next. The cost of building house now na die, so make I see if Animal farming has something profitable for me
I'm sorry for the loss of your chicks. I'm also glad that the rest are doing well. We northerners done suffer for una hands cos e be like this Aboki word don master your mouth....lol.

Well I'm glad you are taking into consideration, having a befitting accommodation for your employee. That shows you are a good man at heart and insha Allah you will go far and well in this your business endeavour.

I wish you the very best of luck.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 4:39pm On Mar 25
Kingdemu:
I'm sorry for the loss of your chicks. I'm also glad that the rest are doing well. We northerners done suffer for una hands cos e be like this Aboki word don master your mouth....lol.

Well I'm glad you are taking into consideration, having a befitting accommodation for your employee. That shows you are a good man at heart and insha Allah you will go far and well in this your business endeavour.

I wish you the very best of luck.


We northerners done suffer for una hands cos e be like this Aboki word don master your mouth....lol. This part really made me laugh out loud. i just dey laugh. you know say we for Lagos, once we won identify any Malam, na Aboki we go call am. The aboki go enjoy, things are so very expensive now, if not for God, na rubbish place the Aboki go dey sleep. Roof alone cost like hell. well all the same, make nairalanders dey prepare for my handout, also know be handout when go carry like one million pages ohh. it might not be up too 10 pages self, but the koko is what would be there. once you do as instructed, na only natural death go most kill anybody Turkey.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 12:07pm On Apr 07
Just need to build the shade where the goats would be staying if there is rain or Sun. Also need to build where the Turkey would be staying. Already, I have 26 Turkeys left and today makes it 2weeks and 6 days. I think am doing well regards to the Turkey. I would be buying additional 100 units of Turkey and may be 10units of Noilers. I might even want to add like 5 Ducks, Anything that would multiply in my ranch, am interested. My goal is after one year, let me see what my investment would have become.

Also if you can supply me Hausa red goats for range of 10-12k each, pls hala me, would be interested in having like 45 females.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Kingdemu: 3:54pm On Apr 07
okine4real:
Just need to build the shade where the goats would be staying if there is rain or Sun. Also need to build where the Turkey would be staying. Already, I have 26 Turkeys left and today makes it 2weeks and 6 days. I think am doing well regards to the Turkey. I would be buying additional 100 units of Turkey and may be 10units of Noilers. I might even want to add like 5 Ducks, Anything that would multiply in my ranch, am interested. My goal is after one year, let me see what my investment would have become.

Also if you can supply me Hausa red goats for range of 10-12k each, pls hala me, would be interested in having like 45 females.
I might get it even cheaper than that in Bauchi but transporting them to Lagos na im be the wahala.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 6:59pm On Apr 07
Kingdemu:
I might get it even cheaper than that in Bauchi but transporting them to Lagos na im be the wahala.

Don't understand your message.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by ibechris(m): 8:07pm On Apr 07
okine4real:
Have been doing research and also putting things in place. Am trying to use this goat business as a side hustle. My land is fenced round already. i have built the room where my worker( Aboki) would stay. Am roofing the place presently. i have borehole on the land already, just to roof self contain, its taking around 250k. The windows taking more than 60k. The thing know easy ohh. I have to buy at least 10 ton of filling sand,i hope the 10 ton would be enough, after that, i would have to do German floor. Aboki go enjoy ohh. Once am done with this, i would check for other things that needs to be put in place, once that is done, i would move to Osun where i would be buying the goats. where i work, a woman doing amala buys hausa goat for 30-35k. i need to study this business, this goat business is going to be my cryptocurrency business.


If u want to buy the goat,pls try and go to the north yourself...I can assure u,u will get one goat matured ones for 7k each even in Suleja,u may get them for 9k each or less but the female might cost u more like 1k to 2k difference.

Wish u best of luck.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Kingdemu: 9:45pm On Apr 07
okine4real:


Don't understand your message.
I mean I can get female goats to supply you for less than the amount you quoted from Bauchi State but I don't have an idea how to transport them to Lagos from there
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 11:54pm On Apr 07
Kingdemu:
I mean I can get female goats to supply you for less than the amount you quoted from Bauchi State but I don't have an idea how to transport them to Lagos from there

My friend just confirmed too me say na 8k be goat or 9k, transport to Lagos na 500 Nairalper goat, drop point Agege.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 10:33am On Apr 28
Still working on building a safe house for the goats and Turkey. Building materials done cost. I need too make sure I build a good house for the goats, so that I can decide too tell my Abiki too lock the goats if I want to come for counting of my goats. Also I have heard of a particular insects that goats and ram eat, I was told that this insects come out in the night/strok early in the morning, they normally pech on the grass and if the goats/Ram eats these insects, in matter of days dey would die. So my plan is too instruct my Aboki too release the goats/Ram around 11am daily. From my Intel, those insects don't like Sun, so once its sunny, they move back inside the ground. Also another strategy for the insects, is to have lots of Turkey and chicken on the field, they would be responsible in eating all insects on the field. E know easy ohh. But steady I would get there.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Kingdemu: 4:18pm On Apr 28
okine4real:
Still working on building a safe house for the goats and Turkey. Building materials done cost. I need too make sure I build a good house for the goats, so that I can decide too tell my Abiki too lock the goats if I want to come for counting of my goats. Also I have heard of a particular insects that goats and ram eat, I was told that this insects come out in the night/strok early in the morning, they normally pech on the grass and if the goats/Ram eats these insects, in matter of days dey would die. So my plan is too instruct my Aboki too release the goats/Ram around 11am daily. From my Intel, those insects don't like Sun, so once its sunny, they move back inside the ground. Also another strategy for the insects, is to have lots of Turkey and chicken on the field, they would be responsible in eating all insects on the field. E know easy ohh. But steady I would get there.
I wish you luck my man. Keep keeping us posted

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 1:21pm On May 13
The block work for the goat and Turkey house is done, but na the zinc I dey fine. My plan is too buy fairly use zinc, new zinc are expensive. The room for the goat is approximately 10 feet by 15 feet, and I constructed 4 units, so I need lots of zinc, this is the reason am looking for used zinc. My Turkeys are approaching two months, so far I have 23 units left. The person putting me through for the Turkey messed me up, he wanted to wicked me, so he never came to administer them there vaccine, because of this, three Turkey died, but as a smart guy and also say I sabi use Internet, I did some research and investigation, so I have started giving them the vaccine myself. Tomorrow I would give them the third vaccine. My Turkeys are doing well, am still practising sha, I dey give them left over food very well and the Turkey dey do justise to the left over. Turkey stubborn and them like to fly.

I want to ask a question and I would like all my readers to pls contribute

Now, my desire is too buy minimum of 50-100 goats, but am also setting aside, another 100k for Turkey. My question is, I can buy a day old Turkey for 850 Naira each 100units would be 85k, then buy let's say 20units of Nuila chicks, let's say all amount too 100k.
If I rear this Turkey for a year and half. I believe I should be able too sell each for a minimum of 18k. The Turkey would be reared via feeding them and leaving them to roam in the compound. I have a very big space for them to roam about. Also don't forget, the females would be laying eggs and I would be taking them too hatchery. So it means I would be having lots of day old chicks to sale.

ANOTHER ANGLE!!

I would uses the 100k to buy goat. I can get goats for 15k each in Osun State. All 7 goats should be female. Goats gives birth twice a year, and let's say each goats gives birth to one goat the first time and another one goat the second time, means am getting 14 additional goats. Rearing this goats for a year and half ,I should be able too sell each goat for 20k.

Now the major point is, let's say am not ready too sell the goats and turkey the first year and half. Now remember I now have 21 goats and might have got lots of Turkey. Now let's say out of the 14 new born goats, let's say 10 is female, but this time the first 7 female goats would give birth to 2 kids the first time and another 2 goats the second time. So this time the first 7 goats would give me 4kid goats X7 =28kid goats. While the other ten previously new born would birth one goat per birth. Don't forget they would birth twice a year so this time it would be 2kids per goats X 10 Mama goats= 20kid goats. So by the second and half year, I would have 7goats+14goats+24goats+20goats.

Now my question is, which will you prefer I do, I should stick too only goats or I should invest the 100k into the Turkey business because the Turkey would be more profitable than the goats. Pls gives reasonable and explanatory reasons, I believe lots of people would be reading so they would be here to learn.

Regards.

Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 1:25pm On May 13
Turkey pics.

Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 1:19pm On May 17
how come nobody is answering my question?
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 4:12pm On Jun 16
The thread is quite. Just to give you guys update. My goats would be arriving very very soon. I believe before the weekend. Already i have purchased three pregnant goats already but yet to take possession. i would upload the pics here also. All three goats are pregnant. total goats i will be purchasing would be 60-70units. either i buy 50 or 60 females, and 10 males. My desire is, at least 40 females should be pregnant at point of purchase. i have been able to construct were the goats would stay. Light is been worked on and also for my aboki to use light. My desire is, one day, i would like to have at least1000 female goats giving birth yearly in my Ranch.

I have already planted Ugwu worth of 20,000 Naira, on a plot and half. I have also planted about 100 suckers of plantain on the same one and half plot of land. I tend to feed my goats with the Ugwu and feed the goats with the plantain leaves. Am also working on planting Brachiaria grass and about two additional different kind of legumes. from what i observed, since the goats would be confined, i need to make available lots of grass and legumes for grazing. This is while, if you must do this business, make sure you have a vast area of land.

Also i have 21units of Turkey left, right now am battling with chicken Pox, my Turkey has Chicken Pox.

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 4:15pm On Jun 16
Pics

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Kingdemu: 6:51pm On Jun 16
Kudos man.... Kudos!
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by SEYIKP(m): 9:31pm On Jun 16
You are doing well. Keep it up.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 12:52pm On Jun 18
I wish to bring this to you guys notice. The rate at which people are buying goats now is very very high. I scouts have not been able to buy up to 20 goats for me. He is suppose to buy 60-70 goats for me. As am trying lots of people are going to the remote areas in the western states to buy 35units of goat, 20 units of goats, very soon goat for finish ohh. Its true there would be food shortage very soon. Its even on Nairaland front page today. I think in some western states, there is know cow to kill, so what they sell in the market here now is goat meat. As they sell goat meat also lots of people are going there to buy herds of goats to rear. Guys dont be caught unawares, i think this food crises would or might hit us hard next year.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 5:07pm On Jun 26
My goats has arrived.

Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Tobloc(m): 2:51am On Jun 27
okine4real:
My goats has arrived.

Nice.
Well done.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Kingdemu: 9:25am On Jun 27
okine4real:
My goats has arrived.
Nice
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by SHEYOR(m): 10:59am On Jun 27
Nice one bro.... following you keenly


okine4real:
My goats has arrived.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by xammax(m): 11:24am On Jun 27
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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 6:11pm On Jun 29
I have successfully moved my goats to my supposed Ranch as i call it. Immediately i move them to the field, they started eating lots of Grass and vegetables, they where even eating leaves i even thought was weed. When i saw them eating those leaves i thought was weed, immediately i know say these goats go soon start to dey fat. I bought 45 goats, the people that bought the goats for me eat my money. Them chop my money know be small, but the truth is, since i cant go there with them because of my work, choping my money was bound to happen. I think some of the goats are pregnant, so i believe before Dec 2021, i should have started seeing kidds.

My main reason for opening the thread is to see the difference between building a house of rearing goats. Am a very practical person. So i want to see which is more profitable. Now back then exactly two years ago, if you are to build a 2bed room flats of 6units, it would cost roughly 45M and the land would cost 18M. Am using Jibowu Lagos as a case study. Rent for 2 bed room is 1M, so a landlord would get 6M yearly for rent. Now my calculation is, now lets take 45M + 18M=63M. Remember we have 6 flats so lets divide 63M by 6 flats, that would give us 10.5M. So it means it would cost 10.5M to build and buy a land just for 1unit of two bed room. So lets invest that 10.5M on goats or any animal husbandry and lets see if we can make more then the 1M the two bed room rent is suppose to give us yearly. In these case i have spend lets say 800k, those boys chop my money ohh, but even if you building a house, the people you would send to buy materials would also chop your money, so all of them na the same thing. i would try and add more goats to round up my expenses to 1M. Donot forget i need to be sure these goat business would fetch me minimum of 1M profit.

Also am trying to teach people to know that, you dont need to be going to lekki every morning for job hunting. These goats business i believe is a very lucrative one, all you need is proper planning. I would update you guys later.

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