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Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 3:46pm On Feb 03
I have a plan to for this year/next year. I wish to build a house lets say a two story building. Each floor would have at least 2units of 2bed room flat. Meaning the house would have 6units of two bed room flat. My target is to collect 6M yearly. in other to have this kind of yearly cash, i would need to invest a minimum of 50-60M. Not that i have this kind of cash, but may be if am determined, i might achieve it. On the other hand, am thinking of going into farming. I think i can get one acre of land for lets say 1M in Ikorodu Lagos State, if this is possible, then i would like to get 10 Acres. if i have 10 Acres, then it would be fenced and used for farming. i plan to do goat rearing. i plan to go far North or far West to get goats, i might buy like 50 goats. may be like 40 females and 10 males. i want to do something that requires less of my presence. before i forget, i have about 12 plots that is fenced with gates, so i want to start with the 12 plots. But on the 10 Acres, my target is for me to have at least 500 goats, its going to be a ranch, but i would not always be there, although my wife and i would be interchanging duties. My target is, instead of looking for 60M to build a house, i can look for like 20M and may be achieve the said target of 6M profit yearly. Now i have read all though Nairaland about all the people rearing goats, i have never seen anybody talking about the technical areas of rearing goats, i have never seen anybody talking about the disadvantages of rearing goats, most of them a keyboard farmers. I need competent people that would really talk about the challenges of rearing goats, not just about the profit, but also the cost of feeding and also how to strategize so that staffs would not steal my goats. Also since i would be having lots of land, what other kind of animal can i pair with the goats, dont forget, i need something that its not easy for workers to steal, i cant do cat fish now because if i have lets say 1000 units of fishes in one pond, if my workers dey sell 2units of fish daily, i would not know because all the fishes are inside the pond, i cant be counting fishes daily.

i await the house to help me with fantastic ideas that can help shape my brain.. i need to cash out this year....


lalalala pls help your gee make my thread hit front page so lots of folks can advice me

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 4:08pm On Feb 03
First you're not straight forward in your expected capital for investment so one can weigh the option of either you going into housing or goat rearing.


Talking about goat rearing what breed of goats do you want to breed. Breeding goats needs space so you can make a ranch so the goats feed intermittently.

I have experience with goats maybe your questions are welcomed. The goat is a good idea
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by BusinessCity: 4:50pm On Feb 03
The catfish issue cracked me up. I laughed hard real good

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 5:01pm On Feb 03
Poorboy:
First you're not straight forward in your expected capital for investment so one can weigh the option of either you going into housing or goat rearing.


Talking about goat rearing what breed of goats do you want to breed. Breeding goats needs space so you can make a ranch so the goats feed intermittently.

I have experience with goats maybe your questions are welcomed. The goat is a good idea


As for the capital, not that i have the money cash, but i can always work towards it. For building first i have to buy lets say a land of 15M to 20M. This is going to be a mud house most times, then i would demolish and build. building might take two to three years. it might even take a year, depends on how baba God take do am for me. building the house would take atleast 40M. as i said, i know keep the money anywhere, but i might be able to work towards it.

For the breeds of goat, i know of this sokoto red goat and the Yoruba dwarf goat. i have also read about one hybrid specie that the pics i would upload, but i would like to buy them later. but i would like to start with the sokoto and the dwarf goat. My target is for the goats to get to the pick when they start giving birth to minimum of three kids per birth and i learnt that, goat birth twice yearly.

in terms of feeding, i intend to feed them cassava pill and cassava shaft and other food i would get my hand across. So please give me real time update on rearing of goats so i can plan.

Cheers.

Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Nezzjnr: 5:37pm On Feb 03
Why will you buy an acre of Farmland for 1 million

Go to Ogun state or Oyo state and get an acre for 100k-400k max
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 5:41pm On Feb 03
Nezzjnr:
Why will you buy an acre of Farmland for 1 million

Go to Ogun state or Oyo state and get an acre for 100k-400k max

I can't operate from those areas. I need where I can access easily. I don't drive at night, there are lots of reasons I don't move at night, also my wife can't be going that far.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Nezzjnr: 5:44pm On Feb 03
okine4real:


I can't operate from those areas. I need where I can access easily. I don't drive at night, there are lots of reasons I don't move at night, also my wife can't be going that far.
Instead of Buying Outrightly

Why don't you get an agreement to lease the lands
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by staga: 5:45pm On Feb 03
okine4real:
I have a plan to for this year/next year. I wish to build a house lets say a two story building. Each floor would have at least 2units of 2bed room flat. Meaning the house would have 6units of two bed room flat. My target is to collect 6M yearly. in other to have this kind of yearly cash, i would need to invest a minimum of 50-60M. Not that i have this kind of cash, but may be if am determined, i might achieve it. On the other hand, am thinking of going into farming. I think i can get one acre of land for lets say 1M in Ikorodu Lagos State, if this is possible, then i would like to get 10 Acres. if i have 10 Acres, then it would be fenced and used for farming. i plan to do goat rearing. i plan to go far North or far West to get goats, i might buy like 50 goats. may be like 40 females and 10 males. i want to do something that requires less of my presence. before i forget, i have about 12 plots that is fenced with gates, so i want to start with the 12 plots. But on the 10 Acres, my target is for me to have at least 500 goats, its going to be a ranch, but i would not always be there, although my wife and i would be interchanging duties. My target is, instead of looking for 60M to build a house, i can look for like 20M and may be achieve the said target of 6M profit yearly. Now i have read all though Nairaland about all the people rearing goats, i have never seen anybody talking about the technical areas of rearing goats, i have never seen anybody talking about the disadvantages of rearing goats, most of them a keyboard farmers. I need competent people that would really talk about the challenges of rearing goats, not just about the profit, but also the cost of feeding and also how to strategize so that staffs would not steal my goats. Also since i would be having lots of land, what other kind of animal can i pair with the goats, dont forget, i need something that its not easy for workers to steal, i cant do cat fish now because if i have lets say 1000 units of fishes in one pond, if my workers dey sell 2units of fish daily, i would not know because all the fishes are inside the pond, i cant be counting fishes daily.

i await the house to help me with fantastic ideas that can help shape my brain.. i need to cash out this year....


lalalala pls help your gee make my thread hit front page so lots of folks can advice me

I was where you are and I am proudly now rearing goats. 1 male can service up to 30 females. These females will produce young for you twice a year. No stories.

But try collecting rent from tenants in this COVID era and see the stress associated with it. With that N60m, you can do wonders in agriculture.

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by BusinessCity: 8:47pm On Feb 03
staga:


I was where you are and I am proudly now rearing goats. 1 male can service up to 30 females. These females will produce young for you twice a year. No stories.

But try collecting rent from tenants in this COVID era and see the stress associated with it. With that N60m, you can do wonders in agriculture.



Pichikom

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 9:21pm On Feb 03
okine4real:



As for the capital, not that i have the money cash, but i can always work towards it. For building first i have to buy lets say a land of 15M to 20M. This is going to be a mud house most times, then i would demolish and build. building might take two to three years. it might even take a year, depends on how baba God take do am for me. building the house would take atleast 40M. as i said, i know keep the money anywhere, but i might be able to work towards it.

For the breeds of goat, i know of this sokoto red goat and the Yoruba dwarf goat. i have also read about one hybrid specie that the pics i would upload, but i would like to buy them later. but i would like to start with the sokoto and the dwarf goat. My target is for the goats to get to the pick when they start giving birth to minimum of three kids per birth and i learnt that, goat birth twice yearly.

in terms of feeding, i intend to feed them cassava pill and cassava shaft and other food i would get my hand across. So please give me real time update on rearing of goats so i can plan.

Cheers.
ok let's start from the land, where is the location. The best way to is to build ranch and plant grasses it will reduce your cost.

The sokoto goat is ok mixed with the dwarf goat. How many goats you intend to start with will determine the space you need.

Goats are not expensive to maintain and it's return on investment is massive. So you can reach out if you have specific questions I am ready to answer, we have rear goat for about 21 years. Questions are welcomed

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 11:21pm On Feb 03
The land is situated in ikorodu Lagos state. I have to locations I want to use. One part of the land is one and half plots while the other is 11 plots. Both lands are fenced. The 11 plots has cassava on it, the woman that planted on the land said by August, she would harvest the cassava. So am left with the one and half plot. My budget is 500k for now, I should be able to get 50 goats at least. I want to put them one the one and half plot and once the woman harvest her cassava, I would move the goat.

My question is, how many years does it take a female goat to start birthing three kids?

Would the one and half plot too small for the goats for a start?

Is the goat Biz really profitable?

Does disease affect goats very much?

Apart from cow and may be pig, what other animal can I pair with goat?

Cheers.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by SavageResponse(m): 5:13am On Feb 04
okine4real:
I have a plan to for this year/next year. I wish to build a house lets say a two story building. Each floor would have at least 2units of 2bed room flat. Meaning the house would have 6units of two bed room flat. My target is to collect 6M yearly. in other to have this kind of yearly cash, i would need to invest a minimum of 50-60M. Not that i have this kind of cash, but may be if am determined, i might achieve it. On the other hand, am thinking of going into farming. I think i can get one acre of land for lets say 1M in Ikorodu Lagos State, if this is possible, then i would like to get 10 Acres. if i have 10 Acres, then it would be fenced and used for farming. i plan to do goat rearing. i plan to go far North or far West to get goats, i might buy like 50 goats. may be like 40 females and 10 males. i want to do something that requires less of my presence. before i forget, i have about 12 plots that is fenced with gates, so i want to start with the 12 plots. But on the 10 Acres, my target is for me to have at least 500 goats, its going to be a ranch, but i would not always be there, although my wife and i would be interchanging duties. My target is, instead of looking for 60M to build a house, i can look for like 20M and may be achieve the said target of 6M profit yearly. Now i have read all though Nairaland about all the people rearing goats, i have never seen anybody talking about the technical areas of rearing goats, i have never seen anybody talking about the disadvantages of rearing goats, most of them a keyboard farmers. I need competent people that would really talk about the challenges of rearing goats, not just about the profit, but also the cost of feeding and also how to strategize so that staffs would not steal my goats. Also since i would be having lots of land, what other kind of animal can i pair with the goats, dont forget, i need something that its not easy for workers to steal, i cant do cat fish now because if i have lets say 1000 units of fishes in one pond, if my workers dey sell 2units of fish daily, i would not know because all the fishes are inside the pond, i cant be counting fishes daily.

i await the house to help me with fantastic ideas that can help shape my brain.. i need to cash out this year....


lalalala pls help your gee make my thread hit front page so lots of folks can advice me

If you cannot yet make out time to supervise your farm business especially at the initial stage it's better you leave the money in the bank...an average Nigeria employee is wired to steal and they will steal you blind once your attention is diverted from the business!

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 11:27am On Feb 04
SavageResponse:


If you cannot yet make out time to supervise your farm business especially at the initial stage it's better you leave the money in the bank...an average Nigeria employee is wired to steal and they will steal you blind once your attention is diverted from the business!


I know say Nigerian like to thief. This is the reason I don't want to do cat fish. I can be at the farm at least twice a week. Over time I know it would increase to may be three to four days. @poorboy am waiting for you.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 3:15pm On Feb 04
okine4real:
The land is situated in ikorodu Lagos state. I have to locations I want to use. One part of the land is one and half plots while the other is 11 plots. Both lands are fenced. The 11 plots has cassava on it, the woman that planted on the land said by August, she would harvest the cassava. So am left with the one and half plot. My budget is 500k for now, I should be able to get 50 goats at least. I want to put them one the one and half plot and once the woman harvest her cassava, I would move the goat.

My question is, how many years does it take a female goat to start birthing three kids?

Would the one and half plot too small for the goats for a start?

Is the goat Biz really profitable?

Does disease affect goats very much?

Apart from cow and may be pig, what other animal can I pair with goat?

Cheers.
for the birthing a goat usually gives birth to one or two depending on the breed.

500k will buy you the goats but what about farm house and ranch it might just be plots been divided for the purpose of planting grasses.

It's a profitable business if you do it on a large scale.

Disease doesn't really affect them, most of the diseases can be cured with simple medicine.

Look at it this way if you get 50 goats and 30 gives birth to 2 kid = 30*2= 60 goats .

The remaining 20 gives birth to 1 kid = 20 *1 = 20

After first birth you have atleast 80 additional goats.

Your price maybe 19,000 a mature goat * 80= 1,520000 naira

Goat's gives birth twice a year.


Mostly the best pair for goat is cow. Now that herdsmen are having issues if you add cows you might be the next billionaire.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Pupzzy4: 3:31pm On Feb 04
My company sell farmland
1 acre is 1.5million at Epe Lagos

U can be given a discount

Call or Whatsapp: zero 7 zero 3 eight eight 2 four four 6 eight
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 5:53pm On Feb 04
Poorboy:
for the birthing a goat usually gives birth to one or two depending on the breed.

500k will buy you the goats but what about farm house and ranch it might just be plots been divided for the purpose of planting grasses.

It's a profitable business if you do it on a large scale.

Disease doesn't really affect them, most of the diseases can be cured with simple medicine.

Look at it this way if you get 50 goats and 30 gives birth to 2 kid = 30*2= 60 goats .

The remaining 20 gives birth to 1 kid = 20 *1 = 20

After first birth you have atleast 80 additional goats.

Your price maybe 19,000 a mature goat * 80= 1,520000 naira

Goat's gives birth twice a year.


Mostly the best pair for goat is cow. Now that herdsmen are having issues if you add cows you might be the next billionaire.



Using a rough estimate, what do you think it would cost me to feed 50 goats for six months, if am buying cassava pill, cassava shaft etc
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 5:54pm On Feb 04
Pupzzy4:
My company sell farmland
1 acre is 1.5million at Epe Lagos

U can be given a discount

Call or Whatsapp: zero 7 zero 3 eight eight 2 four four 6 eight

Your land is even more expensive... But even if I want lands, your location is off where I need lands.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 6:51pm On Feb 04
okine4real:



Using a rough estimate, what do you think it would cost me to feed 50 goats for six months, if am buying cassava pill, cassava shaft etc
I don't know because our goats we feed them with grasses. That's the cheapest

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 6:34am On Feb 05
Poorboy:
I don't know because our goats we feed them with grasses. That's the cheapest

If you feed them with grasses, then how many plots are you guys using for the rearing of goats, how many plots are you using for planting of grass? How do you strategize the planting of grass for the grass to be able to feed them all year wound. Also explain in ratio how many goats should be allocated to a plot of planted grass.

Cheers.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 7:44am On Feb 05
okine4real:


If you feed them with grasses, then how many plots are you guys using for the rearing of goats, how many plots are you using for planting of grass? How do you strategize the planting of grass for the grass to be able to feed them all year wound. Also explain in ratio how many goats should be allocated to a plot of planted grass.

Cheers.
you will have a four plot rotation in which you plant the grasses and water it, the goat waste product you use it as fertilizer. Ratio depends on you, because for them to grow fast you need to feed them with alot of food.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Kings331(m): 8:24am On Feb 05
I am enjoying this interaction. I might actually learn one or two. Keep it coming...
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 12:53pm On Feb 05
Poorboy:
you will have a four plot rotation in which you plant the grasses and water it, the goat waste product you use it as fertilizer. Ratio depends on you, because for them to grow fast you need to feed them with alot of food.


Now talking of grass, do I have to plant the grass or you talking about the weeds that grows on the land. If am to plant the grass what kind of grass am I suppose to plant? And where do I get them from?
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 2:49pm On Feb 05
okine4real:


Now talking of grass, do I have to plant the grass or you talking about the weeds that grows on the land. If am to plant the grass what kind of grass am I suppose to plant? And where do I get them from?
you have to plant it, I can't really know the name but I know the grasses goats eat.

You know goats don't eat all grasses.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 3:43pm On Feb 05
Pls its important you help me get the name of the grass, pls very important.

Also if a female goat is given birth too by Jan, how many months would the goat stay before it get pregnant?
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by tolajay: 5:44pm On Feb 05
Interesting conversation.

I will you go and understudy someone already doing this to better understand.

You can even book a session with an experienced consultant on this.

Don't just stumble through scattered information on a public forum. Invest in yourself before you start the business.

Best!

okine4real:
Pls its important you help me get the name of the grass, pls very important.

Also if a female goat is given birth too by Jan, how many months would the goat stay before it get pregnant?

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 3:28pm On Feb 09
@poorboy, i have come to realize that, every corner where they sell Amala, its the Hausa red goat they buy, i have never seen where they kill the dwarf goat for the purpose of selling Amala. now i have come to realize that, the Hausa red goat gives birth to maximum of two kids while the dwarf births 3-4. From my calculation, even if i have 20units of dwarf and 20 units of Hausa red goat, the dwarf would always out number the Hausa red goat. so if i have lots of dwarf goat, so do i dispose them quickly if i must sell?
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by ezugegere(m): 3:48pm On Feb 09
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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 4:26pm On Feb 09
okine4real:
@poorboy, i have come to realize that, every corner where they sell Amala, its the Hausa red goat they buy, i have never seen where they kill the dwarf goat for the purpose of selling Amala. now i have come to realize that, the Hausa red goat gives birth to maximum of two kids while the dwarf births 3-4. From my calculation, even if i have 20units of dwarf and 20 units of Hausa red goat, the dwarf would always out number the Hausa red goat. so if i have lots of dwarf goat, so do i dispose them quickly if i must sell?
dwarf goat I more expensive than Hausa goats.

Have you priced them recently in your location, price them and let me know.

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Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 4:59pm On Feb 09
yes, they are more expensive and the meat is smaller to that of the Hausa got, so may be that is while the Hausa goat is more preferred. But my major concern is, since its obvious the dwarf goat would always surpass the Hausa goat, and people dont buy the dwarf goat like that, how do i sell them fast? For Hausa goat, you would see just one Amala joint that buys 5-7 Hausa goat weekly, but i have never seen where the dwarf is used like that, so how doi handle this kind of issue?
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by mrsage(m): 5:02pm On Feb 09
I'm learning....
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by okine4real: 10:42am On Feb 10
@poorboy, i have been combing the internet, every since you said, feeding goats with grass is more cheaper. Today i have come across about three different kind of grass

1. Brachiaria Grass
2. Napier Grass(Elephant Grass
3. Alfalfa Grass

So i would like to know what experience do you have with any of this grass. Also would also like to know, if the goats or cow eats the grass even to the ground level, would the grass still grow again, i have a mini vast land, i know that feeding consumes money, so i would be very interested in doing that which would reduce my cost of feeding the goats.

Also you have not answered by previous question.

Also apart from cow, Ram and pig what other animal do you think i can pair with the goats, since i have a mini land, am thinking rearing more animals on the land.
Re: Building A House Or Starting A Farm by Poorboy: 11:19am On Feb 10
okine4real:
@poorboy, i have been combing the internet, every since you said, feeding goats with grass is more cheaper. Today i have come across about three different kind of grass

1. Brachiaria Grass
2. Napier Grass(Elephant Grass
3. Alfalfa Grass

So i would like to know what experience do you have with any of this grass. Also would also like to know, if the goats or cow eats the grass even to the ground level, would the grass still grow again, i have a mini vast land, i know that feeding consumes money, so i would be very interested in doing that which would reduce my cost of feeding the goats.

Also you have not answered by previous question.

Also apart from cow, Ram and pig what other animal do you think i can pair with the goats, since i have a mini land, am thinking rearing more animals on the land.
let me start with the previous question, I don't know anyother animal you can pair with goat aside cow. The goats eats the grasses randomly and depending on how many days they graze on a particular spot they can eat the grass to ground level.

And as long as you water the grasses after grazing it will grow again before the next rotation to that particular grazing land.

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