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|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Beverlyjean(f): 4:37pm On Feb 11|
Then it simply shows u that balon dor is crap....it is influenced by higher authorities...if elections can b rugged , then what the hell is balon dor.... messi actually won his 6th one with only la liga to show for it... no CL , no copa de rey , no copa America... Red carded on the semi final of the copa and also was disgraced 4.0 by Liverpool.....
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by paulolee(m): 5:13pm On Feb 11|
Beverlyjean:pls if you are talking about messi being favoured, go back n read the post n see the list of some other players that the higher authorities also helped..
stop making It seems asif its only messi dts enjoying the favour, cant u see dt cr7 won on that ribery year that bayern won all cups and cr7 won just a cup n won it because he took portugal to the world cup..
I knew all wasnt well when uefa announced dt the voting rights have been extended for few weeks a day after cr7 did dt masterclass against sweden, scoring a hat trick to take Portugal to world cup, even cr7 knew dt he robbed ribery on dt award..
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Beverlyjean(f): 5:31pm On Feb 11|
Then let's say messi dint deserve 3.... 2010 sneijder, 2012 Ronaldo, 2019 van dyke... ronaldo was awarded 2013 cos of the mistake they made in awarding the previous year to Messi cos messi won nothing but he scored 91 goals despite ronaldo winning la liga... so ronaldo then scored 78 goals , they had no choice but to also give it to him ... favouring messi messed up the whole system, thx to criminal blatter and platini
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by OJEEMAH(m): 5:58pm On Feb 11|
Beverlyjean:You don't have a case about 2012 & 2019 and even the 2010, Sneijder was not even in the top three.....but If you insists, then Ribery & Neuer were robbed in 2013 & 2014. Ribery won treble in 2013. Neuer did same in 2013 and also went on to win the World Cup with outstanding performances. Just so you know, CR7 didn't win a rubber cup in 2013. The earlier you realize there's no formula for that award, the better for you. Winning trophies is not a guarantee unless it is backed up with brilliant performances. Messi has always done that and it was for this same reason CR7 won in 2013.
Stop dey carry MESSI matter for head like gala.
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by paulolee(m): 6:18pm On Feb 11|
Beverlyjean:lolz...i understand ur point in making messi the catalyst of the whole system but I still think its unfair when u said they were wrong to give messi that 2012 award after scoring a record 91 goals in a calender year...
guy to score 91 goals isnt easy oo....any player except cr7 n messi scoring half of that 91 goals would be tagged favorites for the balloon d or award...
guy try reason am na...91 goals no b beans oo
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Beverlyjean(f): 6:28pm On Feb 11|
Then dont also say the ribery deserved the award that Ronaldo won the following year cos Ronaldo scored 78 goals ...no b beans as well
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Beverlyjean(f): 6:35pm On Feb 11|
U are saying the same thing... if ubsay messi deserved 2012b, then Ronaldo deserved 2013... then for 2010..sneijder was purposely emitted from the list cis he wud have easily won it... messi dint to even b in the top 3... sneijder scored the goal that knocked messi out of the CL ...sneijder was named best player in the CL that season, also won the scudetto and the Italian Cup and was named best player on Italy... took Holland to the final of the world cup that same year and even knocked out Brazil 2.0 with both goals coming from him...but somehow, a messi that cudnt score a single goal in that world cup and was disgraced by Germany 4.0 in the quarters ended up winning it....howwwww?? And u sit there and defend that fraud.... iniesta and xavi even performed better cos they won the world cup....that was the biggest balon dor fraud ever
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by ThierryJay: 7:03pm On Feb 11|
Didn't know your IQ was this abysmal, to the extent that you are calling a difference of opinion lies. That I believe Henry should have won on the basis of his Confed cup win and domestic performance in England over Nedved's UCL and domestic performance IS NOT A LIE but an opinion. On the other hand, you presenting mistruths as facts are bonafide lies viz:
-You said EPL was rated 4th, I prove to you that it was officially 2nd and even above Serie A during the period:
-You said Juve almost won a treble in 2003, when in actual fact they only won the Scudetto:
-You lied that Henry did not win any trophy in 2003
-You backtracked and later said he won with Zidane's help when Zidane was absent at the tournament
When I schooled you properly and exposed your lies, then you move on to another set just to discredit Henry. Mr Lienus, you lack credibility since you are an incorrigible liar. Yet, I will expose your newest set of lies again.
- In 2003, Henry was the PFA players' player of the year AND the Football Writer's Association player of the season (2 player of the season awards) while Ruud was the FA player of the season. So the assertion that he won nothing noteworthy is FALSE.
- Henry and Arsenal were not dumped out of the group stage of UCL, but at the round of 16 (which was still in group format in 2003). He scored 7 UCL goals and not 6 as you are saying.
- Who are you educating on Confederations cup? Did I not already state it in my previous post that France qualified for it on the basis on their Euro 2000 win? Did France not beat Czech republic in Euro 2000? Did Henry not score against Czech to dump them and Nedved out of the tournament? Why didn't Czech beat France and go on to win Euro 2000 so that they could win the 2003 Confederation's cup? Isn't that a clear evidence that the competition for Euro 2000 was indirectly a competition for the Confed cup? Your inability to acknowledge these facts is symptomatic of an imbalance upstairs in yours truly.
- In Euro 2000, Henry was France's highest goal scorer and best striker with 3 goals. He scored in the semi-final against Portugal and was the man of the match in the final against Italy, despite Trezeguet scoring the winner. So how can you say Trezeguet outshone Henry in the tournament just because he scored the winning goal?? By your logic, did Eder outshine CR7 in Euro 2016? Did Burruchaga outshine Maradona in WC 1986?
Your ignorant self went on to say that was why Juve offloaded Henry and went for Trezeguet. FYI, by Euro 2000, Henry had already been at Arsenal for a year. Would advise you to stop embarrassing yourself with your abysmal knowledge gap. For you to say Henry was not pivotal to France's win in 2000 without considering the facts means I am operating way below my threshold arguing with you.
- I never said Nedved did not contribute to Juve's 2003 league win. I said that Henry's contribution to Arsenal in EPL was more spectacular than Nedved's contribution to Juve's success, but your nomadic sense would not allow you read well. My opinion here is that Henry's 24goals and 20 assists carries more weight than Nedved's 9 goals and 15 assists.
- The 2010 Ballon D'or was voted for by journalists, football captains and coaches and not social media. So, I don't know what you are yapping on about here, where is the lie? If some of the voters were swayed by social media comments, how does that make it less of their decision? Has social media disappeared since 2010 such that ALL the awards from 2011 till date were not also won by social media? Where lies the consistency in thy logic
If you like cancel my comments again due to your inability to grasp intelligence. I have said my own and most people would have learnt a thing or two.
Waiting for your next set of lies.
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|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by OJEEMAH(m): 7:18pm On Feb 11|
Beverlyjean:Make a case for Iniesta not Sneijder please..... In case you have forgotten or deliberately chose to be blind to the truth, Sneijder won Uefa Midfielder of the Year not UEFA Player of the year. It was Milito that won that award by defeating Messi & Rooney. I need not to remind you that Messi won La liga and Copa Del Rey, got to the UCL semis and also went further to win European Golden Boot and Champions League Top Scorer. Sneijder had just 3goals in that champions league...... He wasn't as brilliant as you guys want us to believe. The only reason Iniesta didn't defeat Messi was because he didn't back his performances with goals. Sneijder never deserved the award or maybe he would have been considered if they had won the world cup.
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Beverlyjean(f): 8:11pm On Feb 11|
But u will still open ur mouth and say modric deserved it ahead of ronaldo.... u guys are bunch of unrepentant hypocrites... piers Morgan delisted messi and replaced him with Ronaldo against the nonsense super bowl posted
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by OJEEMAH(m): 8:37pm On Feb 11|
Beverlyjean:We are "Bunch of Unrepentant Hypocrites" simply because you can't put up a defence right? Oga/Madam, have you taken time to evaluate yourself cos you act more like the hypocrite here........Kindly tell us why you are obsess with MESSI.
The stereotype is irrelevant cos some of us are more logical than emotional with our analysis unlike you.
There was never a time i consider MODRIC a worthy winner. He was simply compensated for his brilliant performances over the years.
No right thinking person will take Piers Morgan seriously.
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Numerouno94(m): 10:30pm On Feb 11|
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Numerouno94(m): 11:10pm On Feb 11|
Ur actually unbiased. U included Ronaldo vs Ribery nd Messi vs Sneidjer. Some biased Ronaldo nd Messi fan boys wuld hv xcluded dat of dia oga frm d list, While criticising d oda.
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Numerouno94(m): 11:42pm On Feb 11|
Bro stop wasting ur tym trying to school dat Oga/Madam. She's a well known Messi's troll on Nairaland. I hv stopped taking her serious.
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Kilishihunter: 2:03am On Feb 12|
Beverlyjean:You really need help Is piers Morgan a sports anchor? A news journalist and presenter is who you are happy about picking Ronaldo Chai Someone who picked Joe Montana ahead of tom Brady as NFL's goat and also picked ayrton Senna ahead of both Michael scheimchel and Lewis Hamilton as Formula one's goat I can as well say one top journalist or presenter decided to choose Messi so it's valid Funny dude
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Kilishihunter: 4:10am On Feb 12|
Beverlyjean:It's like your head is paining you What did Ronaldo do to deserve even coming second in 2012 apart from winning la liga Iniesta would have been given that award if not Messi because of his exploits with the national team later that year If you don't know why Messi won in 2012 then see below Apart from scoring goals he broke tons of records of which most still stand to this day and he also won the copa del rey with his team You'll just pick your phone and start typing crap Abi you think this is Dubai d or
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Kilishihunter: 4:59am On Feb 12|
Beverlyjean:Ronaldo never deserved any 2013 award It's almost the same reason Messi also didn't deserve it in 2010 It's very rare for the best player in a treble winning side not to win Ronaldo won in 2008 Messi in 2011 Lewandowski won in 2020 The only two in the modern era who were denied were Sneidjer and ribery (plus being in the world cup final) then you can say xavi or iniesta due to the world cup win but even if you want to look Trophywise because you are very fond of that Messi won la liga the copa del rey and was knocked out by inter final in the semi finals in 2010 Ronaldo in 2013 didn't win any Major Trophy and was knocked out by Dortmund in the semi finals And pls stop lying Sneidjer only scored one goal against Brazil the first goal was an own goal from Felipe Melo Robben was even the major trouble the Brazilians had that day As long as Messi didn't deserve it in 2010 Ronaldo also did not deserve it in 2013 Stop shifting the goalposts fraudlenty when it gets to your turn
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by OJEEMAH(m): 6:57am On Feb 12|
Numerouno94:You're right bro.
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Beverlyjean(f): 8:09am On Feb 12|
Ronaldo's 2013 was deserved if messis 2012 was deserved... in 2010 sevilla defeated atletico to win the copa de rey...messi only won la liga... in 2012 Ronaldo won la liga , Chelsea won champions league but they still gave it to Messi, sighting that he scored 91 goals...they based the awards on goals....ronaldo was disappointed cos he was top scorer the previous season and was first player in la liga to hit 40 goals and also scored the winner against barca to clinch the copa de rey... but fifa said he dint win the league or champions league tjo he won the European boot , the award was given to Messi... in 2012 ronaldo won the league this time but messi still won it , reason by fifa was that he scored 91 despite not winning any major trophy...ok.... no wahala... in 2013 messi won la liga this time but ronaldo hit 78 goals ...now the world was now waiting to see what fifa wud do...they had no choice but to give ronaldo cos the world of sports wud hv termed it favorism for messi ... u c , blatters favorism for messi destroyed that awards credibility ....
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Kilishihunter: 8:24am On Feb 12|
Beverlyjean:Lol This one you are always knowing what FIFA says or does concerning all these awards I'm still surprised we are here dragging this ballon d or matter
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Beverlyjean(f): 8:24am On Feb 12|
All u posted is crap... fake ...cos it shows favorism... before, goals dint determine winners, but trophies..
But cos its messi , they shifted goal post... when ronaldo decided to do same , they had no choice
2009 ...messi, reason... he won the treble...but forlan won European golden boot
2010... messi, reason ... he won European golden boot and la liga but Sneidjer won the treble and reached world cup final
2011 ...messi , reason ... he won champions league and la liga, but Ronaldo won copa de rey and European golden boot ( 1st to score 40 in la liga)
2012.... messi, reason...he won European golden boot and copa de rey , he scored 91 goals , but Ronaldo won la liga...
2013....ronaldo reason ...he won European golden boot and scored 78 but y , cos that's the same reason we gave it to messi the previous season and it will seem like we had been favoring him ....ribery will have to fall for it
Then u guys were saying he deserved it in 2012 due to individual brilliance ...so if he won it based on that , then Ronaldo also deserved it based on individual brilliance
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by OJEEMAH(m): 9:15am On Feb 12|
Beverlyjean:CR7 scored 78 goals in 2013 You are a blatant liar. You better stop misleading people with your wrong stats. it was 69 goals he scored for both club and country.
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by ojaysam25(m): 9:19am On Feb 12|
This is how the balor d hor should have look like from 2007...my opinion tho.
2011- mess I
2012- messi 91 goals give it to him best individual year
2015- mess I
2019- van dyke
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Kilishihunter: 9:21am On Feb 12|
Beverlyjean:Stop lying Ronaldo scored 69 goals in 2013. Liar
Why didn't you also put ribery won the treble, the European player of the year and the most effective player in Europe that year See you typing 'Ribery would have to fall for it' making you to even confirm the award was not deservingly his I showed you earlier the tons of records Messi broke alongside the 91 goal one that had been held for decades Which record did Ronaldo played break? Somebody scored 91 another one scored 69 goals and you are here comparing the both of them At least 2012 Messi still won the copa del rey Ronaldo didn't even win a major spoon with his goals and you are telling me he deserved it to ribery that was a treble winner and European player of the year If 2010 was injustice to Sneidjer 2013 was also an injustice to Ribery And lemme also school you Ballon d or was given to the player that had the best impact that season In 2012 Messi scored 91 goals and broke over 5 different long standing records minus that one and won the copa del rey 2013 Ronaldo scored 69 goals and only bypassed Pauleta as the Portuguese's highest goal scorer with it compared to Ribery who had a massive impact in the treble winning side
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by OJEEMAH(m): 9:32am On Feb 12|
ojaysam25:Messi deserved 2019.....He was UCL Top Scorer & also won European Golden boot along side his La Lisa title. Should we now forget all these achievements and give to Van Dyke simply because they won the Champions League??
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Kilishihunter: 9:36am On Feb 12|
OJEEMAH:He would still come and say they are all fake and lies I almost fully believed him too until I saw your post and had to check Google I posted pictures of Messi's record breaking 2012 season and as usual he switched the table I seriously wonder where that guy gets his biased opinions from How would you say Ronaldo deserved the 2013 ballon d or over ribery Abi he thinks it's the Dubai d or crappy Nonsense
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Kilishihunter: 9:39am On Feb 12|
OJEEMAH:He said it's his opinion na It simply doesn't matter Those who regulate it have already given the awards
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by OJEEMAH(m): 9:43am On Feb 12|
Kilishihunter:He lies too much..... I have caught and exposed him severally. Messi matter be like gala for him head.
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by Kilishihunter: 10:08am On Feb 12|
OJEEMAH:Don't mind him Let him keep on fooling himself while his lies are exposed Messi no dey pay rent for living inside him head
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by OJEEMAH(m): 10:12am On Feb 12|
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by InvestingExpert(m): 10:14am On Feb 12|
OJEEMAH:lol is that mockery or laughter
|Re: Five Balloons D'or That Went To The Wrong Player by ojaysam25(m): 11:27am On Feb 12|
OJEEMAH:Van dijk was both UCL and EPL best player...he was also solid for his country em route to nation league final..his Liverpool team stage one of the biggest comeback in UCL history. Messi scores lots of goals but this awards seems to favor only attackers, this was the year I think a defender should have won it. My opinion tho.
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