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Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:04pm On Feb 11
Fixey:




My dear brother in many scenarios around us we can see clearly that it's more of quantity and not quality without over stretching issues


Have you not noticed a shallowness in people who cross your paths and call themselves Christians and behave less than they ought to


Be sincere..
Please don't stress yourself who much with such ones that are not willing and sincere enough with themselves to see where they greatly err, because they don't really care about the interest of God but themselves. You can remember how much the sheep meant to Jesus that He asked Peter three good times if He loved Him? This is the attitude that He was concerned about yet these ones are too blind to see that.

They use such numbers to adjudge such men as successful just as the owner of this thread, that's why when we speak the Truth they're not comfortable with it and have to counter our comments. But as Jesus said, "Wisdom is justified of her children".

God bless.
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by Salt06(m): 12:09pm On Feb 11
Fixey:



Bro


Enjoy
I believe you and the other brother who said I've chosen my path (lol) are into the teaching ministry.
An evangelist main focus for example is bringing in the lost (the lost is out there) via preaching, salvation, miracles, signs and wonders etc which usually draws the crowds eg philip the evangelist in Samaria, Reinhard Bonnie's ministry while some other ministry offices work on establishing them, teaching etc so we must note this too...
Next is to get them established afeer they come in via teaching sound doctrine. We mustn't get these all mixed up and condemn the work of other laborers... We can however admonish not with strive, hatred or envy but with the aim not to draw disciples unto ourselves but to christ.
Different administrations but the same Lord...
We must all play our part so the kingdom profits and like Apostle Paul said build according to pattern like wise Master builders and make them ready for the bridegroom
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:15pm On Feb 11
Collyno82:
Unfortunately it is not in our hands to make perfect what you referred to as quality. Our mandate is to tell people that this same Jesus who died will surely come back again, whatever He makes out of the multitude we gathered for him is not in our place to judge if they are of quality. My take. Good morning n do have a wonderful day ahead.
It's ironic that you would say it's not in our place to judge if they're of quality, yet the same you would find it in your place to jugde using the quantity.

If what the multitude we gather turn into was up to Jesus alone, He wouldn't ask Peter on three different occasions if he loved Him. That proved that the actions of hirelings go a long way to determine the quality of sheep they produce.

You don't have to accept that hard Truth though.

God bless.
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by Fixey: 12:42pm On Feb 11
jesusjnr2020:
It's ironic that you would say it's not in our place to judge if they're of quality, yet the same you would find it in your place to jugde using the quantity.

If what the multitude we gather turn into was up to Jesus alone, He wouldn't ask Peter on three different occasions if he loved Him. That proved that the actions of hirelings go a long way to determine the quality of sheep they produce.

You don't have to accept that hard Truth though.

God bless.



My dear brother. Let no one deceive you. You're on the true path.


I see one tediously multiplying words against me assuming it's higher wisdom


The Christians we see day in day out behaving badly in the society, we're they not spiritually trained by some people. Societal behaviour is the truest indicator and barometer of quality of Gospel.


I'm not too proud of many that cross paths with me or that don't but go about society parading themselves as Christians. I bring no charge against God's children but simply speak to edify

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Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by Collyno82(m): 6:33pm On Feb 11
jesusjnr2020:
It's ironic that you would say it's not in our place to judge if they're of quality, yet the same you would find it in your place to jugde using the quantity.

If what the multitude we gather turn into was up to Jesus alone, He wouldn't ask Peter on three different occasions if he loved Him. That proved that the actions of hirelings go a long way to determine the quality of sheep they produce.

You don't have to accept that hard Truth though.

God bless.
Peter is not among the multitude, rather he is a disciple. I still maintain that we are call to call others, not quality control checks
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:23pm On Feb 11
Collyno82:
Peter is not among the multitude, rather he is a disciple. I still maintain that we are call to call others, not quality control checks
You be whatever you choose to maintain, while i'd be what I believe was expected of me. Thanks.
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by Collyno82(m): 7:53pm On Feb 11
jesusjnr2020:
You be whatever you choose to maintain, while i'd be what I believe was expected of me. Thanks.
noted. But in being whatever that is expected of you, try as much as possible not to be an accusser of brethrens. Curse not blessings are attached to it. Shalom.
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:05pm On Feb 11
Collyno82:
noted. But in being whatever that is expected of you, try as much as possible not to be an accusser of brethrens. Curse not blessings are attached to it. Shalom.
Try and reserve your flesh-inspired threats for those who are blind and ignorant of the Truth, for I'm not one of such just in case you mistook me for one. I know the Truth, and if the speaking the Truth be accusing the brethren to you, It's a great blessing to be such to you.

Curses are attached to preaching the traditions of men and man-made rules as the Truth or Word of God not blessings. Curses are attached to not speaking the Truth to warn such ones as Christ would if He were here not blessings. Hence i'm not just blessed but a blessing... Thanks.
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by Collyno82(m): 8:52am On Feb 12
jesusjnr2020:
Try and reserve your flesh-inspired threats for those who are blind and ignorant of the Truth, for I'm not one of such just in case you mistook me for one. I know the Truth, and if the speaking the Truth be accusing the brethren to you, It's a great blessing to be such to you.

Curses are attached to preaching the traditions of men and man-made rules as the Truth or Word of God not blessings. Curses are attached to not speaking the Truth to warn such ones as Christ would if He were here not blessings. Hence i'm not just blessed but a blessing... Thanks.
Neither is blessings attached to open castigation of the body of Christ, digging out that the church is a mere gathering of multitude bereft of quality to the admiration of the anti Christ in NL. If you must correct, correct in love, write a letter to the head shepherd of the church like Paul wrote to the churches in the Bible, pointing out what he is not doing well and how you hope it can be done better and not finding faults for we are only complete in him.
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:12am On Feb 12
Collyno82:
Neither is blessings attached to open castigation of the body of Christ, digging out that the church is a mere gathering of multitude bereft of quality to the admiration of the anti Christ in NL. If you must correct, correct in love, write a letter to the head shepherd of the church like Paul wrote to the churches in the Bible, pointing out what he is not doing well and how you hope it can be done better and not finding faults for we are only complete in him.
The last person you should worry about is someone obeying God's instructions and not you who clearly isn't! If speaking the Truth pains you this much, it exposes you as a false believer who is on his way to damnation.

Ezekiel 33:7-9 (KJV)

So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.


This all the prophets did! This John the baptist did! This Jesus did! This the apostles did! So if you have an issue with it, using all sorts of man-made ideas and names to disprove of it, it proves you're not truly of God and need to repent!

So advice yourself instead.

God bless.
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by Collyno82(m): 9:28am On Feb 12
jesusjnr2020:
The last person you should worry about is someone obeying God's instructions and not you who clearly isn't! If speaking the Truth pains you this much, it exposes you as a false believer who is on his way to damnation.

Ezekiel 33:7-9 (KJV)

So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.
When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.


This all the prophets did! This John the baptist did! This Jesus did! This the apostles did! So if you have an issue with it, using all sorts of man-made ideas and names to disprove of it, it proves you're not truly of God and need to repent!

So advice yourself instead.

God bless.
I believe making caricature of the body of Christ is part of the warning. Go ahead but let him that think he stand take heed lest he fall.
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by Fixey: 9:31am On Feb 12
Shallow Christianity would always be shallow. Smh

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Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:33pm On Feb 12
Collyno82:
I believe making caricature of the body of Christ is part of the warning. Go ahead but let him that think he stand take heed lest he fall.
Your choice to believe whatever you want. You've already shown that you're obviously driven by the inclinations of your flesh not the Truth. I wouldn't be surprised that what you believe is making caricature of the body of Christ is what you also do to other respected church leaders you don't believe are truly of God or walking in error as the Catholic pope, Olumba Olumba, etc as some hypocrites here do.

Ezekiel 33:8 (KJV)

When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.


Many anointed ministers would be turned back on the last day because they were workers of iniquity, but thank God none of their blood would be on my hands. I doubt though your hands would not be filled with the blood of such ones. Matthew 7:22-23.

God bless.
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by Kennyfancy(m): 2:53pm On Feb 12
jesusjnr2020:
I don't need to pray to God to have the kind of wisdom which you have. It's common and of this world. I already have that which is not of this world but from above. So thanks but no thanks!
ignorance is bad
Re: Ebenezer 2021: Apostle Suleman's 70k Capacity Church Filled Up by jesusjnr2020(m): 2:56pm On Feb 12
Kennyfancy:
ignorance is bad
Ignorance of one's ignorance is worse.

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