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A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by phinehas01: 1:27pm On Mar 05, 2021
The early missionaries that brought the gospel to Nigeria strictly put more effort and salvation of all mankind. They did not make any emphasis about the well being and involvement of Christians in politics.

This issue has brought so many Christians and clergyman to question. Click the link below to know the problems of lack of Christian involvement in politics and the way out.
https://www.genialpeak.com/2021/01/a-call-for-christian-involvement-in.html?m=1
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Kobojunkie: 3:15pm On Mar 05, 2021
phinehas01:
The early missionaries that brought the gospel to Nigeria strictly put more effort and salvation of all mankind. They did not make any emphasis about the well being and involvement of Christians in politics.

This issue has brought so many Christians and clergyman to question. Click the link below to know the problems of lack of Christian involvement in politics and the way out.
https://www.genialpeak.com/2021/01/a-call-for-christian-involvement-in.html?m=1
A call that is directly against Jesus Christ's own commandment that none of His own sit in direct authority over any of their brethren? Pray tell, what does an anti-Christ move such as this one have to do with Jesus Christ and what He commands of His followers? undecided
He warned against the supposed worshipping of God and other gods(politics which is of the world), so how can anyone who truly obeys the commandments of Jesus Christ willingly urge others to engage in such? undecided
What next? Will you call on followers of Jesus Christ to become leaders in the porn, and maybe human trafficking industries as well? undecided
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Dtruthspeaker: 4:31pm On Mar 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
A call that is directly against Jesus Christ's own commandment that none of His own sit in direct authority over any of their brethren? Pray tell, what does an anti-Christ move such as this one have to do with Jesus Christ and what He commands of His followers? undecided
He warned against the supposed worshipping of God and other gods(politics which is of the world), so how can anyone who truly obeys the commandments of Jesus Christ willingly urge others to engage in such? undecided
What next? Will you call on followers of Jesus Christ to become leaders in the porn, and maybe human trafficking industries as well? undecided

The Law is "A Throne is Established in Righteousness/Rightness!"

And, The Law, not fake man+made laws but God's Natural Law, is on The Doing of Good, therefore, it is only a Good Man that can implement and execute A Good Rule.

Not a Wicked man who must implement wickedness and evil!
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Kobojunkie: 4:45pm On Mar 05, 2021
Jesus Christ's statement "There is none good, no not one" is lost on many. undecided
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Dtruthspeaker: 7:03am On Mar 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ's statement "There is none good, no not one" is lost on many. undecided

True, I am aware that by the Standards of Good, None is Good, however by the comparison between a less evil man and an evil man, the less evil man is better if he does not grow his evilness!

Then, I would amend my statement to it is "A Righteous Ruler" who can deliver good things in his Ruler-dom!
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Nobody: 7:57am On Mar 06, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


True, I am aware that by the Standards of Good, None is Good, however by the comparison between a less evil man and an evil man, the less evil man is better if he does not grow his evilness!

Then, I would amend my statement to it is "A Righteous Ruler" who can deliver good things in his Ruler-dom!


Does "My Kingdom is not of this world" ring a bell?
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Dtruthspeaker: 8:56am On Mar 06, 2021
HedwigesMaduro:


Does "My Kingdom is not of this world" ring a bell?

D yep! but there is another statement I am certain you did not observe, to wit-

"..But Now is my kingdom Not from hence." grin
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Kobojunkie: 11:18am On Mar 06, 2021
A "Righteous ruler"? undecided

Whose rules, as pertains righteousness, will this "Righteous ruler" abide by? undecided

We know that God Himself commanded His own never to install themselves as authorities over their fellow men, therefore, your man there would have to disobey God in order to serve people in the capacity of a ruler.

What that in turn means is that your "Righteous ruler" is one who lives in disobedience to God's law. Man's righteousness is filthy rags to God, so said man has nothing to do with God and his righteousness not of God but man.
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Dtruthspeaker: 5:12pm On Mar 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
A "Righteous ruler"? undecided

Whose rules, as pertains righteousness, will this "Righteous ruler" abide by? undecided

By The Laws of Righteousness, As David continually said "Teach me thy Statutes (means Law) and thy Precepts (which means Principles which further means Law)

Kobojunkie:

We know that God Himself commanded His own never to install themselves as authorities over their fellow men, therefore, your man there would have to disobey God in order to serve people in the capacity of a ruler.

What that in turn means is that your "Righteous ruler" is one who lives in disobedience to God's law. Man's righteousness is filthy rags to God, so said man has nothing to do with God and his righteousness not of God but man.

As you said Truly "Install himself"!

Not when like Moses, Saul, David, He is Appointed by God!
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Kobojunkie: 5:22pm On Mar 06, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:

By The Laws of Righteousness, As David continually said "Teach me thy Statutes (means Law) and thy Precepts (which means Principles which further means Law)

As you said Truly "Install himself"!
Not when like Moses, Saul, David, He is Appointed by God!
So these "Laws of righteousness" exists outside of God since you suggest that those who disobey Him( Jesus Christ) can instead live according to this Law whoch you attribute to David? undecided

Moses, Saul, David? So you expect God will throw Jesus Christ and the commandments He instituted through Him to instead install leaders as He did under His Old Covenant which He made with the Descendants of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob? undecided

You mention Saul and I wonder if you also consider Him an example of your "Righteous ruler"? undecided
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Dtruthspeaker: 5:31pm On Mar 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
So these "Laws of righteousness" exists outside of God since you suggest that those who disobey Him( Jesus Christ) can instead live according to this Law whoch you attribute to David? undecided

Would it be sufficient if I said The Laws of Righteousness are The same as The Laws of God?

Kobojunkie:

You mention Saul and I wonder if you also consider Him an example of your "Righteous ruler"? undecided

I mentioned Saul for the purposes of "Appointment by God" Only and not for righteousness!
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Kobojunkie: 5:38pm On Mar 06, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:

Would it be sufficient if I said The Laws of Righteousness are The same as The Laws of God?
I mentioned Saul for the purposes of "Appointment by God" Only and not for righteousness!
Are the Laws given us through the person of Jesus Christ not the Laws of God - the laws of righteousness? undecided

From the example of Saul, is it then not safe to conclude that "Appointment by God" has nothing to do with Righteousness, and since God has chosen, through Jesus Christ to do away with such appointments, your "Righteous ruler" does not exist as far as God is concerned? undecided
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Dtruthspeaker: 5:55pm On Mar 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Are the Laws given us through the person of Jesus Christ not the Laws of God - the laws of righteousness? undecided

In my opinion, The Laws of God given to Moses AND The Laws which proceeded Out of The Mouth of Christ Jesus, Are the Same, with No variation!

Kobojunkie:

From the example of Saul, is it then not safe to conclude that "Appointment by God" has nothing to do with Righteousness, and since God has chosen, through Jesus Christ to do away with such appointments, your "Righteous ruler" does not exist as far as God is concerned? undecided

No, it would be wrong, For It is Written "ALL The Ways (even Appointments) of The Lord, ARE RIGHTEOUS...!"
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Kobojunkie: 6:00pm On Mar 06, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:

In my opinion, The Laws of God given to Moses AND The Laws which proceeded Out of The Mouth of Christ Jesus, Are the Same, with No variation!

No, it would be wrong, For It is Written "ALL The Ways (even Appointments) of The Lord, ARE RIGHTEOUS...!"
The Laws given through Moses and the Law that is Jesus Christ are the same meaning the promises, seals, and requirements of both covenants are also the same, right? undecided
So why then did those who embraced the Laws of Moses reject Jesus Christ, the New Covenant?

Why did Jesus Christ Himself declare that even the least in the Kingdom of Heaven( the promise given to the righteous under the New Covenant), is greater than John the Baptist(a prophet under the Old Covenant)? undecided

If God's law, which was given to Israel, is same as the New Law(Jesus Christ) then you should have no problem responding to the following. More importantly, why did Jesus Christ command His followers(those who follow His Law) against occupying positions of authority over their brethren? undecided
Re: A Call For Christian Involvement In Politics. by Dtruthspeaker: 6:45pm On Mar 06, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The Laws given through Moses and the Law that is Jesus Christ are the same meaning the promises, seals, and requirements of both covenants are also the same, right? undecided
So why then did those who embraced the Laws of Moses reject Jesus Christ, the New Covenant?


They did not Truly embrace The Laws Moses delivered, Remember, they fought him consistently and regularly such that before his departure he was pleading with them to Keep The Law!

Which you can see that they Consistently Departed from The Law, even when As God Decreed, they shall be punished with and by enemies if they departed from The Law, yet they departed.

Thus, At the Period Christ Arrived, they found A way to "handle" The Law since they could not rid themselves of it.

And what they did was to "alter" it in spirit and in principle and in application.

Which is why The Lord Took on the Keepers of The Law and the Lawyers there on one hand while He Represented and Re-Established The Law Truly Given to Moses.

Kobojunkie:

Why did Jesus Christ Himself declare that even the least in the Kingdom of Heaven( the promise given to the righteous under the New Covenant), is greater than John the Baptist(a prophet under the Old Covenant)? undecided

This Comment was made towards showing us the height, importance and reverence of John the Baptist in the Eyes of Heaven, even though men on earth saw a "mad man" as Nigerians would say!

Kobojunkie:

More importantly, why did Jesus Christ command His followers(those who follow His Law) against occupying positions of authority over their brethren? undecided

Because, Pride Always bringeth Destruction, as you see happen to those who elevated themselves and call themselves pastors, self named Mogs, priests etc

They all fall down.

Thus, without the Appointment of The Lord, it is A place of Destruction!

Permit me leave for I am weary! Thank you! Would look in later!

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