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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by MIKOLOWISKA: 5:53am On Apr 11, 2021
Aconomist:


All of this information is in Dangote's financial report. He sells cement at double his cost of production in Nigeria (60% EBITDA margin) compared to a 22% EBITDA margin in other African countries.
nobody is forcing you to buy from him o. Lafarge, Bua, and a shaka full grand
Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Mkibosho: 2:53pm On Apr 11, 2021
Hahaha few years ago dangote cement here in Tanzania was sold at 1500N per bag that is 10000TZS, by the year of 2015 to 2017 the Tanzania govenment interven with Tax, the company seized as cost of production was not equivalent to tax. guys I'm Tanzanian to nairaland. my English isn't good guys.

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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by AlphaSoul: 11:17am On Apr 12, 2021
Lucrativress:

The truth is Nigeria won't disintegrate,cause at the back of our minds we know we can't stand alone..
We think each Tribe has one mind within themselves but the truth is na lie,we are soo divided even amongst ourselves
If Nigeria should dare disintegrate, the gap between the Rich and the Poor would seem like the distance between Heaven and hell
@lucrativress.

I have a contrarian view to yours.
My knowledge of advanced world geo-political history will come in
handy here because history repeats
itself, and we live in a world of social and economic cycles.


The indices of a country that will
disintegrate have already manifested and if the members of the National Assembly of that country called
Nigeria do not begin the moves
to decentralise governance now...
Then the inefficiencies in the
geo-political make up will lead
to a spontaneous Civil War and disintegration into a minimum of 12 countries because of the dangerous, overcentralised unitary system of
government first introduced in
1966 by the military under the
watch of Gen. Aguiyi Ironsi, and sustained by the military and their incidious civilian collaborators.


A Yoruba country or Odua Republic for example (with or without the Itsekiris of Delta State who have direct Ijebu, Ilaje and Ife ancestries... and links with the Bini ancestry in the Olu of Warri Monarchy), will be over 100,000 square kilometers. Slightly bigger than Sierra Leone in land mass...and with an indigenous population of over 50 million estimated as of 2021.

From Jebba town on the banks of river Niger in Kwara, to the Okuns in Kogi, down to the Aworis/Ijebus/Ilajes/Itsekiris of the oil and
gas-rich Ugborodo (formerly called
Escravos) and elsewhere among the
Yoruboid people on the southern lagoons and Atlantic coastlines.


With a confederate system consisting of State Governors, and a huge Yoruba Diaspora pool of technocrats in the U.S., UK, Canada, etc, the new country with huge gas reserves, the 2nd largest bitumen reserves in the world after Canada, arable farm lands, access to the
sea for international trade, and a booming tech space, will be economically and militarily powerful, and will be ready for even space exploration!

Yoruba and English would be the main official languages with the promotion of French (for global employment in UN organisations) and regional Yoruba linguistic dialects such as Ilaje, Itsekiri, Ekiti, Owo, Awori, Egba, Ijebu, Igbomina, Okun, etc.


The former countries of the
Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia,
Yugoslavia, Sudan, Ethiopia, and even the old India (now Continental India, Pakistan, Bangladesh) are
countries that had to split up
or outrighly disintegrate so as
to bring about more clarity and
efficiency in governance and
resource management.


Last but not least, let me school
you some more.

Did you know that a lot of politicians and savvy business people in Nigeria already have dual citizenship in anticipation of an impending war/split of the country?

The so-called End SARS spontaneous violence has even
speeded up the process of acquiring second citizenships by Nigerians who can afford it.


'Femi Gbajabiamila is a
Nigerian-American who read and practiced Law in the U.S. before returning to Nigeria along with his mentor Asiwaju 'Bola Tinubu and others from exile in the US and the UK as a result of the struggles to revalidate the annuled June 12, 1993 Presidential elections.


The current Senate President too has dual citizenship of one of the smaller
countries. So they will bolt out of
Nigeria if things go south as can
be seen from the proliferation of
light weapons coming from the
lawless Sahelian countries, increase
in kidnappings, killings by
Fulani herdsmen of innocent
people in all regions of
Nigeria, etc.


It is what it is!

Ciao.

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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by garfield1: 10:07pm On Apr 12, 2021
Xisnin:

This is like saying the sky is blue. The price of any product depends on supply and demand.
You have to look beyond the basics to understand the issue.
Despite the topic, my submission was about economic realities and not specifically Dangote.
So, this issue can only be solved from an economic and legal perspective, any other approach
will have no effect.


Nigeria used to import more than half its cement until OBJ decided it was a bad idea.
You don't hoard limestone just like investors don't hoard oil wells. You either own one
or you don't. It is not something you share.
BTW, do you support blanket allowance for the importation of any product into the country?


BUA is playing a psychology game as all capitalists do. The only thing wrong from the perspective of BUA is that
Dangote cornered the largest part of the market. If the roles were switched, Dangote will be playing the same game.
It is never about right and wrong for a capitalist. It is always about profit and outmaneuvering the competition.
Which is also the beauty of capitalism. If Dangote lowers his price tomorrow, BUA will follow suit despite the "scarcity" excuse.



I actually read this article then. Rabiu isn't calling for more competitions in the real sense.
He is calling for "liberalization" which is different because that would weaken his competitor but
it isn't because he is some angel. Rabiu won't call for or work towards liberalization of any industry he dominates.

I still maintain that there is no specific law preventing new cement companies from starting up.
One thing Rabiu could do is rally his own politician investors and introduce a new bill into the national assembly
to correct any specific problem with the current policy. That would give Nigerians a real view of the industry.
Just blaming "policy" is not enough.

Guy,you are too much
Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by BluDesk: 11:53am On Apr 13, 2021
Xisnin:

This is like saying the sky is blue. The price of any product depends on supply and demand.
You have to look beyond the basics to understand the issue.
Despite the topic, my submission was about economic realities and not specifically Dangote.
So, this issue can only be solved from an economic and legal perspective, any other approach
will have no effect.


Nigeria used to import more than half its cement until OBJ decided it was a bad idea.
You don't hoard limestone just like investors don't hoard oil wells. You either own one
or you don't. It is not something you share.
BTW, do you support blanket allowance for the importation of any product into the country?


BUA is playing a psychology game as all capitalists do. The only thing wrong from the perspective of BUA is that
Dangote cornered the largest part of the market. If the roles were switched, Dangote will be playing the same game.
It is never about right and wrong for a capitalist. It is always about profit and outmaneuvering the competition.
Which is also the beauty of capitalism. If Dangote lowers his price tomorrow, BUA will follow suit despite the "scarcity" excuse.



I actually read this article then. Rabiu isn't calling for more competitions in the real sense.
He is calling for "liberalization" which is different because that would weaken his competitor but
it isn't because he is some angel. Rabiu won't call for or work towards liberalization of any industry he dominates.

I still maintain that there is no specific law preventing new cement companies from starting up.
One thing Rabiu could do is rally his own politician investors and introduce a new bill into the national assembly
to correct any specific problem with the current policy. That would give Nigerians a real view of the industry.
Just blaming "policy" is not enough.



You shot yourself in the foot


In street, you say Rabin is calling for help to weaken it's competitor, but that's the essence of liberalising the economy. To make it have free access to more players so prices and conditions and productivity can never be controlled by a single party



Are you aware if Dangote was doing what it is in Nigeria in China and Europe, it has breached antiMonopoly rules and would be severely sanctioned..


Are you?


The economy must truly be open. And not what it appears to be with Oliganomics.
Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Nobody: 1:19pm On Apr 15, 2021
Aconomist:
That seems to be the situation.

Here is Rabiu: https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/02/09/bua-advocates-liberalisation-of-cement-policy-to-crash-price/

The BUA chairman said there are many other companies that have the capacity and access to funding to be able to compete in the industry in Nigeria, adding that the entire country is sitting on limestone. Anywhere you go, there is limestone in Nigeria,” he emphasised and explained: “And the cost of production is probably the lowest in Africa.” Rabiu urged the federal government to open up the cement industry for more competition.

Here is David Iweta: https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/movie/54550/real-reasons-cement-price-is-high-iweta.html

But, ahead of this latest policy summersault, the same cabal had already gone around Ogun State, had gone round the whole of Cross Rivers State, gone to Obajana, and surveyed in their name anywhere there was limestone deposits that will last for over 250 years, thus depriving other people access to the basic raw material which is lime stone quarry.

Hmmmm welldone Aconomist, And someone would come to me and open his/her useless mouth that the world Is a fair place.......
Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Nobody: 1:24pm On Apr 15, 2021
BluDesk:




You've obviously not understood the inner linings of the Nigerian system. The entire policy management and federal agencies are entirely rigged internally.


Fact check. All top positions of all federal agencies are all northerners that the oligarchs can summon to meet them in mosques, hold their evil meetings, plan and scheme. How do you break out. East or West when the federal manages everything in its firm grip?

How?

Absolute Absolutely True.......
Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by BluDesk: 1:25pm On Apr 15, 2021
Evolutionlove:


Absolute Absolutely True.......


Southerners are in delusion
Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Godisgreatest1: 4:46pm On Apr 15, 2021
You don't have to be greedy to be a 'billionaire'.
Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Krismas(m): 1:03am On Apr 17, 2021
BluDesk:



Southerners are in delusion
cool I'd like u to understand this issue is beyond Dangote. Its surprising really no one here is bashing the governmental system that connive to make all these thrive. Its not only cement, every other aspect.The system thrives by under developing its own citizens. Placing myriads of limitations before aspirations, the believe that a pauperized citizenry is more manageable. The fear that citizens could turn their capabilities against the government.

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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Nobody: 11:01pm On Apr 19, 2021
Xisnin:

This is like saying the sky is blue. The price of any product depends on supply and demand.
You have to look beyond the basics to understand the issue.
Despite the topic, my submission was about economic realities and not specifically Dangote.
So, this issue can only be solved from an economic and legal perspective, any other approach
will have no effect.


Nigeria used to import more than half its cement until OBJ decided it was a bad idea.
You don't hoard limestone just like investors don't hoard oil wells. You either own one
or you don't. It is not something you share.
BTW, do you support blanket allowance for the importation of any product into the country?


BUA is playing a psychology game as all capitalists do. The only thing wrong from the perspective of BUA is that
Dangote cornered the largest part of the market. If the roles were switched, Dangote will be playing the same game.
It is never about right and wrong for a capitalist. It is always about profit and outmaneuvering the competition.
Which is also the beauty of capitalism. If Dangote lowers his price tomorrow, BUA will follow suit despite the "scarcity" excuse.



I actually read this article then. Rabiu isn't calling for more competitions in the real sense.
He is calling for "liberalization" which is different because that would weaken his competitor but
it isn't because he is some angel. Rabiu won't call for or work towards liberalization of any industry he dominates.

I still maintain that there is no specific law preventing new cement companies from starting up.
One thing Rabiu could do is rally his own politician investors and introduce a new bill into the national assembly
to correct any specific problem with the current policy. That would give Nigerians a real view of the industry.
Just blaming "policy" is not enough.

OBJ decided to use his wickedness n greed to end cement imports so that only Dangote will import cement needed by over 150 million people so that he will share the profits with Dangote
Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by FEGEITOK: 12:02am On Apr 20, 2021
Krismas:
cool I'd like u to understand this issue is beyond Dangote. Its surprising really no one here is bashing the governmental system that connive to make all these thrive. Its not only cement, every other aspect.The system thrives by under developing its own citizens. Placing myriads of limitations before aspirations, the believe that a pauperized citizenry is more manageable. The fear that citizens could turn their capabilities against the government.

Smart thinking

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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Xisnin(m): 4:11pm On Apr 26, 2021
BluDesk:




You shot yourself in the foot


In street, you say Rabin is calling for help to weaken it's competitor, but that's the essence of liberalising the economy. To make it have free access to more players so prices and conditions and productivity can never be controlled by a single party



Are you aware if Dangote was doing what it is in Nigeria in China and Europe, it has breached antiMonopoly rules and would be severely sanctioned..


Are you?


The economy must truly be open. And not what it appears to be with Oliganomics.
The anti-monopoly rule does not exist for any country and it is even meaningless in this context.
Always make research before contributing to complex topics.
Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Aconomist: 12:02pm On Apr 27, 2021
Xisnin:

The anti-monopoly rule does not exist for any country and it is even meaningless in this context.
Always make research before contributing to complex topics.

Anti-monopoly rules exist in every developed country. China even fined Alibaba $3 billion for monopoly. And in India, cement companies are raided like criminals if they are suspected of anti-competitive behavior. Nigeria is the only country where criminals like Dangote have free reign to exploit an entire nation.

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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Xisnin(m): 5:37pm On May 09, 2021
Aconomist:
Anti-monopoly rules exist in every developed country.
It doesn't exist. If you still disagree, cite specific portions of those laws banning monopoly.


China even fined Alibaba $3 billion for monopoly.
No, they didn't. Go back and read the exact reason they were fined. That says a lot even when a procommunist country have several monopolies.
Is Alibab still a monopoly? Of course.


And in India, cement companies are raided like criminals if they are suspected of anti-competitive behavior.
It seems you are starting to understand the real issue. Anti-competitive behaviour and monopolies are not the same thing.
India never ever raid any company for being a monopoly. In fact, there are several big monopolies in India.

In case you genuinely don't know why some companies run into problem. It is not because they are a monopoly, it is when they use products in one industry to try to bully other companies in different industry.
Consider a tire manufacture who divest into vehicle assembly. If it starts limiting tire supplies to other vehicle manufacture. That is illegal not whether they are the biggest or only one.



Nigeria is the only country where criminals like Dangote have free reign to exploit an entire nation.
This is funny. Every single developed countries have monopolies. Some of them are aggressively supported with government money e.g US propping up Tesla and China backing Huawei monopoly in order to dominate their space.

I see you are very emotional, that is probably why you think monopoly is a crime which it isn't.
When government make laws or policies and some companies excel more than others, it is not criminal, it is just business.

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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Aconomist: 2:58am On May 10, 2021
I'm not interested in arguing about the semantics of monopolies. What Dangote is doing would not be allowed in any modern country.

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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by omohayek: 8:51am On May 10, 2021
Aconomist:
I'm not interested in arguing about the semantics of monopolies. What Dangote is doing would not be allowed in any modern country.
The sophistical lengths to which all the Dangote sycophants will go to defend his monopolistic practices makes me wonder if he's paying them by the word or something, because otherwise it's hard to understand why anyone would exert so much energy defending some rapacious individual exploiting them, their families, their friends and everyone else who lives in Nigeria, all with government backing. Or maybe some people are just born bootlickers and slaves.

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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Aconomist: 9:49am On May 11, 2021
omohayek:

The sophistical lengths to which all the Dangote sycophants will go to defend his monopolistic practices makes me wonder if he's paying them by the word or something, because otherwise it's hard to understand why anyone would exert so much energy defending some rapacious individual exploiting them, their families, their friends and everyone else who lives in Nigeria, all with government backing. Or maybe some people are just born bootlickers and slaves.
Don't you know most Nigerians are just talking monkeys? They love slavery.

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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by warrenweste(m): 7:19am On Sep 07, 2021
Krismas:
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Re: Dangote Is Selling Cement For 1,150 Naira In Zambia by Krismas(m): 8:46am On Sep 08, 2021
warrenweste:


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