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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 6:40pm On Apr 09
Empiree:
Guy, don't you get it?. The name of the month is Ramadan and it is the 9th month in the islamic calendar; just like September is the 9th month in Gregorian calendar.


In Islam we called it Ramadan. In Gregorian calendar we called it September. Same goes to every calendar in the world.


Those days in the time of Moses, Jesus, Jeremiah etc they had their names of calendar. But the most important point we want to derive in this conversation is the ninth 9th month. So Ramadan is name of the month and fasting was proclaimed therein in Islam. Similarly, 9th month of the year in the Bible, fasting was proclaimed as proven in the Book of Jeremiah 36:9.



"In the ninth month of the fifth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, a time of fasting before the LORD was proclaimed for all the people in Jerusalem and those who had come from the towns of Judah."


Is this verse not clear to you?. Who are the people mentioned in this verse, were Jews not included?. You can see in this verse entire towns and tribes were obligated to fast. It is you Christians that strayed from Right Path. You are not "Omo leyin Jesu". You are Omo leyin Paulu. Paul changed every doctrine of Jesus and replaced with him own.


"Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity". Hebrew 6:1
Who proclaimed the fast?

And for what purpose?

Was there a command that it should be done every year ?

Was it tied to a moon god called Allah?

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 7:17pm On Apr 09
advocatejare:

Who proclaimed the fast?

And for what purpose?

Was there a command that it should be done every year ?

Was it tied to a moon god called Allah?

is it not clear now that you are in manifest error?. Jeremiah is very clear. Quran is very clear. So keep waxing in ignorance. You are indeed unbridled ignorant.

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 7:22pm On Apr 09
Empiree:
is it not clear now that you are in manifest error?. Jeremiah is very clear. Quran is very clear. So keep waxing in ignorance. You are indeed unbridled ignorant.
Simple question you wont be able to answer, you'll just start crying.


Answer those simple questions but as usual I'll teach you and at the end I'll ask those questions again to find out if you've learnt or to see if your case is irredeemable.


A “fast day,” other than the one associated with the Day of Atonement, was not a part of the regular religious calendar but instead was called in the face of some emergency that required the full religious energies of the people. This was likely based on the arrival of Babylonian forces to destroy the Jews, as God had told Jeremiah beforehand in the preceding verses:
Jer.36.1 - In the fourth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, this word came to Jeremiah from the LORD:
Jer.36.2 - "Take a scroll and write on it all the words I have spoken to you concerning Israel, Judah and all the other nations from the time I began speaking to you in the reign of Josiah till now.
Jer.36.3 - Perhaps when the people of Judah hear about every disaster I plan to inflict on them, each of them will turn from his wicked way; then I will forgive their wickedness and their sin."

Jer.36.4 - So Jeremiah called Baruch son of Neriah, and while Jeremiah dictated all the words the LORD had spoken to him, Baruch wrote them on the scroll.
Jer.36.5 - Then Jeremiah told Baruch, "I am restricted; I cannot go to the LORD's temple.

Jer.36.6 - So you go to the house of the LORD on a day of fasting and read to the people from the scroll the words of the LORD that you wrote as I dictated. Read them to all the people of Judah who come in from their towns.
Jer.36.7 - Perhaps they will bring their petition before the LORD, and each will turn from his wicked ways, for the anger and wrath pronounced against this people by the LORD are great."
Jer.36.8 - Baruch son of Neriah did everything Jeremiah the prophet told him to do; at the LORD's temple he read the words of the LORD from the scroll.
Jer.36.9 - In the ninth month of the fifth year of Jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, a time of fasting before the LORD was proclaimed for all the people in Jerusalem and those who had come from the towns of Judah.


This is similar to Esther's declaration that the Jews should fast when the lives of the Jews were threatened and Esther decided to go and meet the king at a time when it was forbidden to enter the King's chamber. Esther declared fast to seek for mercy.

Esth.4.16 - "Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. Do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. I and my maids will fast as you do. When this is done, I will go to the king, even though it is against the law. And if I perish, I perish."

It was a norm for the Jews to declare fast to seek for mercies when their lives were threatened, never did such become a commandment to be a yearly thing that u want to associate with your pagan practice of fasting to a moon god.


God never proclaimed yearly fasting for the jews


Now it's time to answer my questions:


Who proclaimed the fast?

And for what purpose?

Was there a command that it should be done every year ?

Was it tied to a moon god called Allah?

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by budaatum: 7:25pm On Apr 09
advocatejare:

Who proclaimed the fast?

And for what purpose?

Was there a command that it should be done every year ?

Was it tied to a moon god called Allah?

Did you miss this thread?

budaatum:
The op's comment is not gospel so I don't see why I should go through it again since I discarded his view as due to limited understanding in my very first post. That is not to say mine is gospel either though, do note. You, though, are focused on the rabbits and the eggs, mere teaching tools from traditions and customs and festivities, and would want me to concentrate on the finger and ignore the moon as you do.

Dig deeper here for instance, and see past rabbits and eggs. Then wonder why such ancient traditions survive through the different Gods.

As for how, there's an Easter next year. Remind me and we can explore the process together since two minds are much better than one.

Ramadan starts Monday so we might try that too to fully dispel ourselves of ignorance in the meantime.
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 7:27pm On Apr 09
budaatum:


Did you miss this thread?


Where do you belong, which religion do you practice? Are you a Buddhist?

I need answers before I can engage you. Thanks
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 7:38pm On Apr 09
advocatejare:

Now it's time to answer my questions:


Who proclaimed the fast?

And for what purpose?

Was there a command that it should be done every year ?

Was it tied to a moon god called Allah?
why do you have annual lent?. Why do jew fast yearly till now?

Yom Kippur is similar to annual Ashura in Islam that falls on Muharram 9th and 10th similar to fasting on 10th of Yom Kippur (atonement).

So again, do christians and Jews not fast annually?. I have said before that both religions have been interpolated. Which means your Fast right now is not in harmony with the scriptures.

And you asked, "for what purpose?". All Fastings have to do with atonement one way or the other. Ramadan is a time for atonement as well.
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by budaatum: 7:53pm On Apr 09
advocatejare:

Where do you belong, which religion do you practice? Are you a Buddhist?

I need answers before I can engage you. Thanks

The only reason you ask were I belong is so you can pigeonhole me.

Christ said, "Humans shall not live by bread alone or they shall be malnourished".

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buda feeds on a very very healthy diet, and you must know one by one's fruits.
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 8:01pm On Apr 09
budaatum:


The only reason you ask were I belong is so you can pigeonhole me.
You don't have the power to read people's mind, so you can't second guess me.

I want to know who I'm dealing you.

If you can't tell me your belief and religion, stop mentioning me.

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by budaatum: 8:28pm On Apr 09
advocatejare:

You don't have the power to read people's mind, so you can't second guess me.

I want to know who I'm dealing you.

If you can't tell me your belief and religion, stop mentioning me.

I put it to you that if you are of Christ you would be able to tell who you are dealing with by my fruits just as I can tell of you by your's. For it is written:

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You don't get to order who quotes you or not. If anyone could you would not be quoting in this thread.

You can of course stop posting and you'd find you'd stop being quoted. The choice is entirely your's to depart for a season or remain and be quoted.

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 8:38pm On Apr 09
advocatejare:

Annual lent is not compulsory. God never commanded it, Jesus never commanded it, it's not an obligation.

God never commanded any fast, it's your choice to decide to seek his face with it or not.


Now it's time to answer my questions:


Who proclaimed the fast?

And for what purpose?

Was there a command that it should be done every year ?

Was it tied to a moon god called Allah?
Yum Kippur and Tisha Bav were Commandments by God and imposed on the Jews even though today, they have relatively tainted the rules.


Moses was Commanded to fast 40 days and 40 nights. Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights following footsteps because he did not come to abolish the Law and the prophets brekkie him (Matthew 5:17). Which means Jesus followed footsteps of Moses but their followers are doing exact opposite today.

Why don't you people also fast 40 days and 40 nights Commanded by God if truly you are followers of Jesus?. Instead you Jewish and Christians invented your own fasting formulas.

So Moses fasted 40 days and 40 nights

Exodus 34:28, Deut 9:9, 9:18


Elijah fasted 40 days and 40 nights 1 king 19:8


Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights Matthew 4:1-2


These were Commandments. Jesus followed footsteps of his salaf (predecessors).


Anobi Muhammad (SAW) fasted 30 days and his followers do the same. O you who believe, fasting is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you, that you may develop God-consciousness." (Quran 2:183).


His 30 days fasting was meant to relieve harsh conditions of former generations because prophet muhammad (SAW) is a mercy to the world You can see it was all in line and muslims followed their prophet's footsteps. Why do Jews and Christians today chose different path?.

It means they have strayed from the Right Path.
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by budaatum: 8:58pm On Apr 09
Empiree:

Why do Jews and Christians today chose different path?.

It means they have strayed from the Right Path.

No it does not mean "they have strayed from the Right Path", for just as it was ministered to that "His 30 days fasting was meant to relieve harsh conditions of former generations because prophet muhammad (SAW) is a mercy to the world", has the Holy Spirit ministered to Christians to fast as they fast, and saying otherwise is like claiming Prophet Muhammad (SAW) invented his own different path and strayed from the Right Path, when the truth is God created us all diversely so we can all learn from one another instead of this constant needless diq measuring to see who's diq is bigger or better!

Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 9:35pm On Apr 09
Empiree:


Moses was Commanded to fast 40 days
Liar, show me where Moses was commanded to fast for 40 days.

Moses was in the presence of God for 40 days and nights, and in the presence of God time become still. Moses was not given any commandment to fast.

Show your proof if you have a contrary opinion.

Jesus fasted 40 days and 40 nights following footsteps because he did not come to abolish the Law and the prophets brekkie him (Matthew 5:17).
Yahweh, Moses, Jesus never commanded us to fast for 40 days and night.


Why don't you people also fast 40 days and 40 nights Commanded by God if truly you are followers of Jesus?.
Where was the commandment given?

I deal with facts not iro jatijati

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 9:53pm On Apr 09
Empiree:

Anobi Muhammad (SAW) fasted 30 days and his followers do the same. O you who believe, fasting is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you, that you may develop God-consciousness." (Quran 2:183).


His 30 days fasting was meant to relieve harsh conditions of former generations because prophet muhammad (SAW) is a mercy to the world You can see it was all in line and muslims followed their prophet's footsteps. Why do Jews and Christians today chose different path?.
If what you're saying is true, that means your anobi Muhammad was a fraud, he should have fasted for 40 days and night first before he will be pardoned to satisfy his gluttony.

At least he prayed 3 times daily prayers towards Jerusalem like the Jews did, before he changed to Zoroastrians mode of prayers when the Jews exposed his fraud. So why didn't he fast for 40 days and night first before being relieved?

Because he couldn't joke with food.

Moses fasted for 40 days and night because he was in the presence of God, jesus did the same and was alone in the presence of God, in the wilderness.


But your Muhammad did fake fasting of eating breakfast and have sex with his wife at night and you're claiming he was a prophet like Moses. What is the similarity between Muhammad and Moses?

God gave Moses the 10 commandment, all of which Muhammad ended up breaking.

Islam clearly goes against the order of God that they should not set up a stone for worship

Lev.26.1 - "'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.

Have you seen now, while Yahweh forbids bowing down to stone, Muslims bow down to the Blackstone to kiss it as part of the religious obligation during hajj.

And we were even told in the Bible how idolaters made sacred stone for Baal

2Kgs.3.2 - He did evil in the eyes of the LORD, but not as his father and mother had done. He got rid of the sacred stone of Baal that his father had made.

But every of Muhammad's actions were clearly against what Yahweh commanded.

Exod.20.4 - "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

Exod.20.5 - You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

Muhammad made Blackstone an idol and you all go to mecca to kiss the Blackstone and you pray towards the black cube called the Kaaba.

Exod.20.13 - "You shall not murder."

Muhammad murdered

Exod.20.14 - "You shall not commit adultery.
Exod.20.15 - "You shall not steal.
Exod.20.16 - "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
Exod.20.17 - "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."

Muhammad commited adultery and coveted his adopted son, Zaid's wife

Muhammad stole and encouraged his followers to plunder, he's the role model for Boko Haram

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 9:56pm On Apr 09
advocatejare:

Liar, show me where Moses was commanded to fast for 40 days.

Moses was in the presence of God for 40 days and nights, and in the presence of God time become still. Moses was not given any commandment to fast.

Show your proof of you have a contrary opinion.


Yahweh, Moses, Jesus never commanded us to fast for 40 days and night.


Where was the commandment given?

I deal with facts not iro jatijati
alright....since every proof I brought forth is not Commanded by God, obviously CHRISTIANITY is not Commanded by God. This means you all fake grin cheesy . Your religion is fake then.

You have practically denied your Bible by constantly saying this and that are not Commanded. Lo ba tan grin
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 10:03pm On Apr 09
Empiree:
alright....since every proof I brought forth is not Commanded by God, obviously CHRISTIANITY is not Commanded by God. This means you all fake grin cheesy . Your religion is fake then.

You have practically denied your Bible by constantly saying this and that are not Commanded. Lo ba tan grin
He's about to run away. Show proof now, you can't.

Go back to read, you're not up to the task

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 10:19pm On Apr 09
advocatejare:

He's about to run away. Show proof now, you can't.

Go back to read, you're not up to the task
Don't worry. If I had quoted from your Bible again you would keep saying "there is no Command for christians to fast". But let's
read directly from one of your great pastors in Nigeria who said "fasting was Commanded by God".

Not only that, recall I said yesterday that you fake fasting by drinking water, eating amala without obe egusi cheesy. Now read from your pastor directly in the screenshots. grin grin grin

Start arguing with him cheesy grin cheesy

He said you can drink water if you are dehydrated. Abeg, is that one na fasting? cheesy grin Awe funfun.... Lori iro grin cheesy

I repeat, christians are misguided and are followers of Paul. You have strayed. Where is Adeboye's evidence that worshippers can drink during hours of fasting?.


christians "Fasting" Lori iro grin


Now that you don't believe your Bible when I quoted it, can you now believe your senior pastor lori iro? grin cheesy iropo iropo iropo. Iropoju Adeboye grin


Thank God I am a Muslim

Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 11:15pm On Apr 09
Empiree:
Don't worry. If I had quoted from your Bible again you would keep saying "there is no Command for christians to fast". But let's
read directly from one of your great pastors in Nigeria who said "fasting was Commanded by God".

You're like a drowning man looking for a straw to hold on to.

The Bible remains the standard.


Quote it out where the command to fast was given.





He said you can drink water if you are dehydrated. Abeg, is that one na fasting? cheesy grin Awe funfun.... Lori iro grin cheesy

Look at someone who will eat pounded yam, amala, rice, and all sorts at 5am in the morning and claim to be fasting.

By 1-2pm he will drink water under the guise of doing aluwala

By 4 pm, he will do the same.

And will still be shouting all over the place with his smelly mouth that "Ha awe n gbomi". You're the hypocrites jesus talked about

Oniyeye cheesy

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 11:19pm On Apr 09
Empiree is case you don't know, below is an example of commitments from God :

Exod.20.1 - And God spoke all these words:
Exod.20.2 - "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Exod.20.3 - "You shall have no other gods before me.
Exod.20.4 - "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
Exod.20.5 - You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exod.20.5 - You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exod.20.6 - but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Exod.20.7 - "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
Exod.20.8 - "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
Exod.20.9 - Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
Exod.20.10 - but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates.
...

So show us where the command to fast was given and stop being melodramatic, stop being deceptive like Allah the Al Makirina, the best of the deceivers

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by budaatum: 11:26pm On Apr 09
advocatejare:


So show us where the command to fast was given and stop being melodramatic,

Here is one you obviously missed.

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 12:17am On Apr 10
I know pastor Adeboye's writeup was a knockout for you. He knocked you off your feet and you couldn't collect yourself back. You had no choice but to come up with loads of irrelevant scriptural epistle.

So let's just say you don't believe in Adeboye too?. I showed you clear evidence from your Bible but you rejected it. I showed you clear statements of your pastor but you rejected it. How else you want me to convince you?.

Mr. Jare, I invite you to Islam.


advocatejare:
Empiree is case you don't know, below is an example of commitments from God :

Exod.20.1 - And God spoke all these words:
Exod.20.2 - "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Exod.20.3 - "You shall have no other gods before me.
Exod.20.4 - "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
Exod.20.5 - You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exod.20.5 - You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exod.20.6 - but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Exod.20.7 - "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
Exod.20.8 - "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
Exod.20.9 - Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
Exod.20.10 - but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates.
...

So show us where the command to fast was given and stop being melodramatic, stop being deceptive like Allah the Al Makirina, the best of the deceivers
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 12:22am On Apr 10
advocatejare:

You're like a drowning man looking for a straw to hold on to.

The Bible remains the standard.


Quote it out where the command to fast was given.






Look at someone who will eat pounded yam, amala, rice, and all sorts at 5am in the morning and claim to be fasting.

By 1-2pm he will drink water under the guise of doing aluwala

By 4 pm, he will do the same.

And will still be shouting all over the place with his smelly mouth that "Ha awe n gbomi". You're the hypocrites jesus talked about

Oniyeye cheesy
You don't know better than Adeboye. Pastor Adeboye knows when God gives Commands but you know not. I know pastor Adeboye's writeup was a knockout for you. He knocked you off your feet and you couldn't collect yourself back. You had no choice but to come up with loads of irrelevant scriptural epistle.

So let's just say you don't believe in Adeboye too?. I showed you clear evidence from your Bible but you rejected it. I showed you clear statements of your pastor but you rejected it. How else you want me to convince you?.

Mr. Jare, I invite you to Islam.
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Zeedarh(f): 3:58am On Apr 10
Jazakumllah kayran

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I have a B.sc in accounting, I’ve completed the mandatory NYSC, would be 25 by July and I have 2 years administrative/customer service experience.


I am trustworthy, diligent and very much trainable (for any role).

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I have a strong belief that there are brothers and sisters who can help here.

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Jazakumllah kayran
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Hespee93: 4:56am On Apr 10
advocatejare:

While you're preparing just remember that Ramadan is a pagan practice.

If you want to know about something, get the factual content of if from real source not internet.

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Hespee93: 4:58am On Apr 10
Empiree:
this means your Bible is also guilty of paganism because fasting was proclaimed in the same 9th month as in Islam.

Guy, why can't you live and let's live?




May Allah preserve us as we approach the glorious month

Many people life has been ruin from internet content
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 6:54am On Apr 10
Hespee93:


If you want to know about something, get the factual content of if from real source not internet.
Where is the real source? The Quran and the hadith! I've checked those two places
Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 11:46am On Apr 10
God willing this is my last reply to you because I know you not gonna hear word.


advocatejare:

I don't follow Adeboye, I follow Jesus, I follow what is written in the scriptures.
To truly follow Jesus you must follow Old Testament because that's what Jesus followed


"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17



If you are convinced by the scriptures adeboye quoted, why can't you write out the content of that scriptures like you always do.
Moses was Commanded to fast 40 days and 40 nights. Jesus followed the same footsteps. But in the New Testament the Law changed suddenly which means New Testament is trojan horse. Paul successfully dismantled Jesus doctrines in the New Testament.




But because you've checked and you've realized that what is in the quoted scriptures is different from what you and adeboye inferred, you are ashamed to write it out.
it is very simply bro. I repeat, Jesus followed Moses practices. Why did Christians today follow Paul instead of Jesus?. Here again Jesus confirmed Old Testament must be followed


This is Jesus speaking in the New Testament.



“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)



“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)



You may argue that Jesus is speaking to the Jews and this is Old Law. Very well then. If it is Old Law why did you abandon all Old Laws and you even have nothing to do with Old Testament except when you want to support Israel and when you want to collect Tithe?. It is only when it comes to tithe you go back to the Old Law. Tithing is in the oldy Testament. Why don't you abandon tithes as well?. Because it is more comfortable, abi?





Only a fool will leave the path of life to follow the path of destruction
ofcourse, like Paul did by abandoning Jesus teachings. Read screenshots





He broke all the laws of God. He was the false Prophet that Jesus talked about.
you should have directed this to Paul who changed Jesus teachings. Paul was a deceiver and a liar. He's chameleon. Bible confirms that if Paul was with thieves he called himself thief. If Paul was with the Jews he's also Jewish. He kept changing and disguising.


◄ 1 Corinthians 9:20 ►


When I was with the Jews, I lived like a Jew to bring the Jews to Christ. When I was with those who follow the Jewish law, I too lived under that law. Even though I am not subject to the law, I did this so I could bring to Christ those who are under the law.



The above verse is where christians learned etekete (tricks) they used for non Christians today. For example when I was in primary school teachers would tell us during morning devotion and breakfast that we would pray in the name of muhammad to provide us food with our eyes opened. And we prayed but no food came. Thereafter they told us to close our eyes to pray in Jesus name and we did. While we closed our eyes the teachers and janitors put food on our desks and they asked us to open our eyes and we saw food on our desks.

Principal would say "you see, you prayed in the name of muhammad but muhammad didn't bring you food because he was a false prophet and doesn't have power. But when you prayed in the name of Jesus you have food and drinks. Which of the two should you follow?". Entire class screamed "Jesus".

This is how CHRISTIANITY works. It is tricky religion. Religion of deception.

Furthermore, Paul confessed and admitted to lying and fraud. Paul, in his zealot exaltation, admits and justifies, on Jesuitical principles, the preaching of falsehood, and feels really aggrieved that honest men should take exceptions to such mendacious propaganda:

"For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?" (Rom. 3.7)



Though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved. But be it so: ... nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile(deceits)." (2 Cor. 12.15-16)



Paul admits to fraud. And he admits to the church of Corinth: "I robbed other churches ... to do you service" (2 Cor. 11.cool.




Finally, in the Book of Romans 3:7, Paul further exposed himself he's a liar indeed.


"But if through my lie God’s truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?".


This means Paul's teachings are deception. This is exactly what he did when he said,



Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God. ◄ Hebrews 6:1 ►


Now let me show you and our reading audience the difference between me and you. You have been attacking Allaah (God) and His messanger Muhammad's personality. But I did not attack God and Jesus and his personality. This show amount of hatred you guys are taught in church.

From now you can talk to the wall.
Have a good day

Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 12:47pm On Apr 10
Empiree:
God willing this is my last reply to you because I know you not gonna hear word.
Don't run away o, I'm enjoying how I'm enjoying your ignorance for the whole world to see.




Moses was Commanded to fast 40 days and 40 nights. Jesus followed the same footsteps
Where was Moses commanded to fast for 40 days and night? I've asked you this question several times and you couldn't answer.

Muhammad lied that he was a prophet like Moses, I'm happy now that you've exposed that Moses was referring to Jesus as Jesus also fasted for 40 days and night like Moses did when he was in the presence of God.

As for Muhammad, he couldn't even fast for one day and night as he was a glutton that couldn't live a whole day without food and sex, no wonder he died during sex and was after he was poisoned from atenuje

Atenuje lo pa Muhammad

"Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
-Bukhari 5:59:713

"...He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta."
- Sunan Abu Dawood 39:4495-4498

"That during his fatal ailment, Allah's Apostle, used to ask his wives, "Where shall I stay tomorrow? Where shall I stay tomorrow?" He was looking forward to 'Aisha's turn. So all his wives allowed him to stay where he wished, and he stayed at 'Aisha's house till he died there. 'Aisha added: He died on the day of my usual turn at my house. Allah took him unto Him while his head was between my chest and my neck and his saliva was mixed with my saliva.
-Bukhari 7:62:144"

To make the matter worse, muhammad was left unburied for 3 days which was against the norm for Muslim corpse and they bathed him with his clothes on which was also against the Muslim tradition.



Moses fasted for 40 days and night because he was in the presence of God, jesus did the same and was alone in the presence of God, in the wilderness.


But your Muhammad did fake fasting of eating breakfast and have sex with his wife at night and you're claiming he was a prophet like Moses. What is the similarity between Muhammad and Moses?

God gave Moses the 10 commandment, all of which Muhammad ended up breaking.

Islam clearly goes against the order of God that they should not set up a stone for worship

Lev.26.1 - "'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.

Have you seen now, while Yahweh forbids bowing down to stone, Muslims bow down to the Blackstone to kiss it as part of the religious obligation during hajj.

And we were even told in the Bible how idolaters made sacred stone for Baal

2Kgs.3.2 - He did evil in the eyes of the LORD, but not as his father and mother had done. He got rid of the sacred stone of Baal that his father had made.

But every of Muhammad's actions were clearly against what Yahweh commanded.

Exod.20.4 - "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

Exod.20.5 - You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

Muhammad made Blackstone an idol and you all go to mecca to kiss the Blackstone and you pray towards the black cube called the Kaaba.

Exod.20.13 - "You shall not murder."

Muhammad murdered

Exod.20.14 - "You shall not commit adultery.
Exod.20.15 - "You shall not steal.
Exod.20.16 - "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
Exod.20.17 - "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."

Muhammad commited adultery and coveted his adopted son, Zaid's wife

Muhammad stole and encouraged his followers to plunder, he's the role model for Boko Haram



you should have directed this to Paul who changed Jesus teachings.
Paul was greater than Muhammad, the beginning of Paul's ministry was witnessed by eye witnesses, Muhammad on the other hand was possessed by a jinn in the cave of Hira and there was no witness to the account that account.

Muhammad rushed home like a coward to go and meet his wife Khadija who took him to waraqa. Khadija and waraqa were the ones who proclaimed muhammad as a Prophet.

Paul performed many miracles, Muhammad couldn't perform any.


Paul could not be hurt by poisonous snake, muhammad died from poisoned food

Paul followed the laws of Yahweh and the teachings of Christ, Muhammad broke all the laws. He gave u another god called Allah, he asked you to bow down to the Blackstone and the direction of Kaaba, he killed, stole, fornicated, coveted his neighbor's wife etc


Even your Quran acknowledged Paul as a messenger but the ignorant you hate Paul because his prophecy of 500 years before Muhammad was born exposed Muhammad as the false Prophet and Antichrist

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Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 2:23pm On Apr 10
grin cheesy

Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by advocatejare(m): 12:35pm On Apr 11

Re: Ramadan 2021 Preparation by Empiree: 1:53pm On Apr 11
A layman does not understand difference between honey and sugar.

Merely looking at honey and sugar, he says there is no difference in their tastes grin shocked.

A knowledgeable and practically experienced man tells him that honey tastes different and better than sugar but layman doesn't understand. Experienced man says to layman, "you can not understand how great and better honey taste unless and until you (layman) taste it."

Instead of layman to proceed and taste honey, he sits there and looking at himself dumbfounded trying to figure out how in the world honey tastes better and different from sugar. He's still sitting there for donkey years still trying to figure things out while the world already moved on. No one has time for layman.


Moral Of The Lesson


A layman does not understand appearance and reality are opposite of each other.

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