you are right my friend, you seem to have the insight and the knowledge of understanding matters.
for this, i praise you.

African traditinal religion has always been pushed to the backstage and has been degraded and abused by us Afrricans and its the same all ova da world where the old tolerant religions have been dropped becuz of d monotheistic fanatical islam n christianity.

may d Gods and nature bless u, dont lose hope in d religion of your forefathers,

African traditional pagan religions are far more tolerant because they are vastly more spiritually grounded something which is the central quality of all pagan religions anywhere on the planet.

I am a muslim. i do agree that the practitioners of traditional religions are more tolerant in africa relative to practitioners of islam and christianity in nigeria. the reason i think is the case is that where people are minorities for all intense and purposes, the influence is also minimal.

for example, some igbos say they are jews. the jews among them are very tolerant in religiosity, while it is not the same for the jews in america, though a minority, but it is a different grade of minority to what we have even in SE of nigeria. the jews in america are loud, aggressive, vindictive, vigilantes and start a riot at the drop a hat because they know they can shame the christian rights, centrists and even liberal and carry them along to support the agenda. the jews in israel am sure you know that they are not tolerant at all. well you may say therefore it is the the so called Abrahamaic religions that are the problems. no. hold your horses.

the hindu are the majority in india. we know about them already. they are violennnnnnnnnnnt. when ussr had communism and china had socialism as their official religion or lack of religion, those people who had practiced other religions were repressed, marginalized, etc. today, we see north korea as intolerant people to their brothers and sisters in south korea and the west, indeed america. china hates the tibetians with a passion, and cant stand taiwan for a moment. in 2nd ww japan made a ton of chinese women sex slaves.

what you find common in all of the above, are few things; human beings by and large as a group when riled up and cloaked in garb of mob mentality are evil. almost everyone wants to get over somebody.

in defense of islam now, it will be wrong for a man who they brought for his approval before slaughter a healthy calf, but says dont kill it, go get me the run over [last week road kill] dead goat that has been in the gutter, decaying with visible maggot come from it. this is similar to a group of religion or no religion concepts i do not call my religion.

another scenario; a man prefers an animal slaughtered because of ill treatment and obvious sickness over the healthy calf. this is similar to an abrahamic i do not call my religion.


yet the third man prefers the meat left on the kitchen counter for many days that the color is not bright red anymore and it has now began to have a strange smell, though slighty. this is another abramaic religion i do not call my religion.

my religion of islam cared for the animal throughout. never abused it. take it to the field to feed. let it run around, with a long leash, let it loose in a closed range grazing. just before it was slaughtered, gave it cool water to drink. swiftly slaughter it [so it does not fill the pain more than you feel a very short pinch] with a very sharp knife after supplicating The Creator on it. such a freshly slaughtered healthy animal, after the blood is completely drained in about 15 minutes, the meat ill be the best to munch on and head and shoulders above any and all of the above.


but you wanna eat any of the above instead of what i am eating, go right ahead. when you suffer the stomach pains, i may choose to ignore you because i already warned you ahead of time.

@poser; you know what the christian pastors and their supporters say about Islam is not true? i hope you are mature enough to know that even if the christians don't.

Allah is not a god, or a doll or whatever. He is not made, never have been represented by anything by any body. Allah is no father or son or husband of anything, anyone, but He is the Sole Creator while everything is His created being. Allah is Invisible and not subject to anything anyone anywhere is subjected to. He holds sway every Superiority and Capability over everything. He hears all our speeches all at once, if we gathered together to make it in one single shot. He knows what is hidden and what you reveal.

He sees you and you are always within His control. You can not escape Him and His Mercy covers you, while His punishment can reach anyone as He wills it.No one can frustrate Him. His appointed time for you is determined by Him alone. You can't hasten it if you wish to test Him as the ignorants often do. You can't delay it when it arrives, even if you wish thet it does not happen.

You are living as His created human on His created earth, eating and growing strong by what He provides to sustain you. His heavens cover you as to envelope you in layers, one on top of the other until seventh heaven.

Allah's Throne Supreme is above the seventh heaven. This seventh heaven is so small to the Throne in the same way a human finger ringer is small when viewed from the space on the vast desert. The earth is the same size to the first heaven. every heaven is the same to the heaven immediately above it. So the sixth heaven is exactly like this to the seventh heaven.

Allah did not create the Supreme Throne so that He can sit or rest on it. Allah says He is Above it, to mean High above it.

This is just introduction to Who Allah is. There is nothing compared to Him and no eyes have seen Him. But many ears have heard His Voice. His Speech is Unending, yet each Message is clear. Muhammad [as] heard His voice and said there is layers of light without knowing the depth of the layer separating him from His Position. The Best give for the muslims in paradise is the chance to gaze at the Face of the Almighty. The greatest regret of the hypocritical muslims before they are herded to hell to reside with the disbelievers in it is that they will see the Beautiful Face of Allah in the shortest time possible so that it can be etched in their collective individual memory the Greatest loss for being hypocrites. i hope you guys get the gist of what i am writing?

however, what muslims say about christianity is not a lie; can anyone explain how trinity is one, if you will not accept triangle as a straight line? both having 'tri' to say three. how do we say man is God, and say God is not man? how do we say God was killed and say God does not die? you will see that those christians infuse man and God into each other, and we ask who is the Creator of the creature, if the Creator in their own mind is also the creature, while they say creature and Creator are not in the same level at anytime? how did the creature whip, torture and kill by hanging the Creator Who is Superior and able to do all things, just because He wished to stop animal blood letting, but it His own blood as His own son that should be wasted, while He simply could have device a simpler method to accomplish the same object of not killing animal or Himself as His own son?

we in islam say that sincere utterance of repentance from the heart, is enough. You will know that Allah accepts your repentance when you dislike committing the since that used to be your second nature, before you offered repentance. finally, if muslims can provide a simpler than bloodletting process to forgive [human say am sorry to each other and that will be it, if the other says apology accepted and all is forgiven], then muslims have shown that their God is more Merciful than any God or god, while at the same time showing even muslims have superior spiritual knowledge, and mankind in general by the their easy forgiveness of one another with mere utterance, if only that for the moment, while the residual anger and resentment remain in the heart, unable to equal what we expect of God, have demonstrated that they are not as demanding as the christian God who seek blood revenge, yet christians will end up in the lake of fire, since jesus said 'i do not know thee' to those who will say they used to 'in your name caste out devils and perform great miracles'. whosoever Allah accepts his repentance is as if he never committed the sin he tendered repentance on.

I am a muslim. i do agree that the practitioners of traditional religions are more tolerant in africa relative to practitioners of islam and christianity in nigeria. the reason i think is the case is that where people are minorities for all intense and purposes, the influence is also minimal.

for example, some igbos say they are jews. the jews among them are very tolerant in religiosity, while it is not the same for the jews in america, though a minority, but it is a different grade of minority to what we have even in SE of nigeria. the jews in america are loud, aggressive, vindictive, vigilantes and start a riot at the drop a hat because they know they can shame the christian rights, centrists and even liberal and carry them along to support the agenda. the jews in israel am sure you know that they are not tolerant at all. well you may say therefore it is the the so called Abrahamaic religions that are the problems. no. hold your horses.

the hindu are the majority in india. we know about them already. they are violennnnnnnnnnnt. when ussr had communism and china had socialism as their official religion or lack of religion, those people who had practiced other religions were repressed, marginalized, etc. today, we see north korea as intolerant people to their brothers and sisters in south korea and the west, indeed america. china hates the tibetians with a passion, and cant stand taiwan for a moment. in 2nd ww japan made a ton of chinese women sex slaves.

what you find common in all of the above, are few things; human beings by and large as a group when riled up and cloaked in garb of mob mentality are evil. almost everyone wants to get over somebody.

in defense of islam now, it will be wrong for a man who they brought for his approval before slaughter a healthy calf, but says dont kill it, go get me the run over [last week road kill] dead goat that has been in the gutter, decaying with visible maggot come from it. this is similar to a group of religion or no religion concepts i do not call my religion.

another scenario; a man prefers an animal slaughtered because of ill treatment and obvious sickness over the healthy calf. this is similar to an abrahamic i do not call my religion.


yet the third man prefers the meat left on the kitchen counter for many days that the color is not bright red anymore and it has now began to have a strange smell, though slighty. this is another abramaic religion i do not call my religion.

my religion of islam cared for the animal throughout. never abused it. take it to the field to feed. let it run around, with a long leash, let it loose in a closed range grazing. just before it was slaughtered, gave it cool water to drink. swiftly slaughter it [so it does not fill the pain more than you feel a very short pinch] with a very sharp knife after supplicating The Creator on it. such a freshly slaughtered healthy animal, after the blood is completely drained in about 15 minutes, the meat ill be the best to munch on and head and shoulders above any and all of the above.


but you wanna eat any of the above instead of what i am eating, go right ahead. when you suffer the stomach pains, i may choose to ignore you because i already warned you ahead of time.

however, what muslims say about christianity is not a lie; can anyone explain how trinity is one, if you will not accept triangle as a straight line? both having 'tri' to say three. how do we say man is God, and say God is not man? how do we say God was killed and say God does not die? you will see that those christians infuse man and God into each other, and we ask who is the Creator of the creature, if the Creator in their own mind is also the creature, while they say creature and Creator are not in the same level at anytime? how did the creature whip, torture and kill by hanging the Creator Who is Superior and able to do all things, just because He wished to stop animal blood letting, but it His own blood as His own son that should be wasted, while He simply could have device a simpler method to accomplish the same object of not killing animal or Himself as His own son?

@Sweetnecta


your way of relating to things and people surprises and angers me. Your words exemplify in a way that muslims r da most clean and good people in the world. I dont think i need ta remind you of the fact that whereva there is violence, its always muslims who stir it up. Me, i am Pagan Maguzawa and Hausa. How can u say tha my fellow Pagan Hindu brothers on the other side of the world are all violent In fact they are the most peaceful people in the world but its because muslims like u try to provoke & convert them and make them abandon there culture which in turn makes some of them them violent at times. And how can u say u muslims dont abuse the animal, huh isnt tying it to a leash abusive Dont u remember how our enslaved people were ""tied"" in the same way and shipped to d americas how do you know that slaughtering the animal with a ver sharp knife doesnt hurt it d only way to knoe is to try it out yaself which i doubt u will,
and i am Pagan so im nuetral and wud personaly not like ta interfer in this christian vs muslim argument but the way u speak about them shows your selfish nature and your proudness. even there r 1000s of wrong stuff in your religion. can u explain d how can d entire population on this planet be descended from just 2 people, i.e., adam n eve WHAT A LIE! we humans r not bacteria. only bacteria and other viruses can multiply from one or 2 individulas into such vast numbers. humans can certainly not interbreed amongst themselves since by doing so, we may all become diseased or handicapped. ALSO, scientists have already proved that we have descended from early apes and we have skeletons and DNA of apemen as PROOF!!!! also your prophet used to marry so many wives which shows how sexually oreinted he was and how unholy tha makes him not to mention d fact that one of his wives was ""barely"" a child,

Cant believe this thread died just like that!

BUMP!

souldust: i have listened to so many islamic and christian clergy men preach
and it is so annoying what you hear them say of the other religions
no wonder we continue to see so many sectarian violence here in nigeria
the clergy continue to induce into the congregation deep and intense hatred for the
other religion
you hear Christian pastors say something like "The Muslims worship a god Allah" (a small god and not the God in heaven) and so they would not use the word Allah in worship they prefer
the word yesu. They tell their congregation that Muslims are children of Ishmael the "rejected child"
on the other hand, the Muslims say degrading things about christians
the only religion hat do not induce hatred of other people into its adherents is the traditional religion.
i would like to hear what you have to say. your opinion.

If you're talking about tolerance towards other religions ATR's are certainly more tolerant. That is to say people who practice ATR's don't mind who your are worshiping in your house. For the most part they will not try to convert you or make you feel bad. However if you're speaking of tolerance towards socially deviant behavior I think Christianity is most tolerant. I have seen a good deal of ATR's and Islam persecuting individuals who don't fit in. Christians do this as well but I feel they do it less.

MamiWata:

If you're talking about tolerance towards other religions ATR's are certainly more tolerant. That is to say people who practice ATR's don't mind who your are worshiping in your house. For the most part they will not try to convert you or make you feel bad. However if you're speaking of tolerance towards socially deviant behavior I think Christianity is most tolerant. I have seen a good deal of ATR's and Islam persecuting individuals who don't fit in. Christians do this as well but I feel they do it less.

Agreed

African paganism most certainly takes the cake on this. It's not intolerant at all. It's almost like atheism. It's either you practice it or you don't. Nobody will force it down your throat like in the case of Islam.

Doesn't mean it's recommendable though.

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What is the role of morality in our Christian walk?
This post will clarify your doubts about what the true morality is.
Be blessed in the name of our lord Jesus Christ.

African Traditional Religion is the most tolerant because it is the oldest and true religion of Africans.

Isese lagba!!

Jenwitemi:
African traditional pagan religions are far more tolerant because they are vastly more spiritually grounded something which is the central quality of all pagan religions anywhere on the planet.

Eventhou I agree with the spirit of your contribution, African spirituality isn't a pagan religion, our spiritual is where the concept of religion in itself was adopted, based on the Eurocentric definition of paganism, it's the foreign extremist ideologies that are pagan, as they are directly connected to ideologies that belong in such category.

Furthermore, those foreign extremist ideologies and their commentators don't qualify to define our spirituality, they are simply unqualified by every stretch of ones imagination.

The only true narrative regarding African intellectual properties are the one's determined by the African, by default, all other narratives are wrong and invalid.

Tolerance shouldn't be misconstrued with Permissiveness!

The traditional religions are worse than the once that came with books having what is written that everyone can read and understand on their own.

The traditionalists will set out at night to hunt for strangers who may be unfortunate to have enter their premises unknowingly that they're hunting for a sacrificial lamb to SLAUGHTER for their deities.
Whether a king dies, they need atonement or the deities demand blood Sacrifices innocent humans will be slaughtered for sacrifice!
Sorry all you guys don't really know what you're talking about. If you wish to know humbly ask and you will know what is happening in religion.

For your information, there are many spirits claiming God today and what all of them want is human blood, the only God that values life is the Creator. The other spirits (Gods) don't bloody care what happens as long as they have brainwashed adherents who keeps sacrificing their fellowman these spirits are OK.

What most of you don't know is those spirits are now disguising as angels of light to impersonate the true God today so that gullible ones like you will blame him for the atrocities they are commiting in his name. That's why God's only begotten son taught all his followers to always pray for the SANCTIFICATION of his father's Holy name {Matthew 6:9} which has been profaned by the worshipers of DEMONS claiming worshipers of God! 2Corinthians 11:14

True Christianity tolerates all forms of religions but we won't worship with them!

Christianity and Islam are the worst ideologies ever to set foot on African soil.

Africans invented the concepts of literacy and numeracy.