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Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by kiddkash(m): 9:12am On Apr 20
Whitecoal711:
Football doesn't end on the big teams,it's the intrigue of smaller teams defeating the so called bigger clubs
If you guys destroy this gladiator of our time, prosperity will not forget you
Give the small clubs cash and see if they won't Excel
Football is the surprise defeats not greed for more money
its posterity

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Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Whitecoal711: 9:15am On Apr 20
kiddkash:

its posterity

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Typo
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by valencia25(m): 9:19am On Apr 20
Ijeleigbo:


If lower teams participate in UCL, what happens to Europa league?

I think the Circle goes on... Midtable teams get to play UCL, and Lower teams participate in Europa.

What a terrible sight....lol

Brighton Vs Eibar cheesy cheesy

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Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Gokoyer0(m): 9:22am On Apr 20
It's should be "what an unending issue".
Awon attention seeker gang
MANNABBQGRILLS:
What Unending Issue!


Something must be done about this Super League is.
We want no troubles or problems with our darling football please.
It brings us joy all over the world on a daily and weekly basis.
Football is Life mehn!
kiss


IMPOSSICANT!!!
It cannot happen this season, maybe in the future, but not now!
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by BabaIbo: 9:22am On Apr 20
AlhajiBitcoin:


What again will private citizens do ?

Many of us own businesses that have lost over 80% revenue.

I feel they are a bit selfish. Okay, what will smaller clubs do when Mancity, Man Utd, Liverpool, and Chelsea exit EPL ?

It means EPL will be dead. Drowning the smaller clubs further into debts. They should exercise patience, nobody planned Covid.


At least those businesses are sole businesses that is they don't have anybody on their necks.
If you have any opportunity of taking actions that will direct customers to your business, won't you take the step to save your biz?

Will you tell Salah, Mane, de bruyne and Co that their is no money to pay them and they will laff and hug you?
Do you know most of those players are refusing pay cut?
Fans like you will still push them to sign top players as I'd you all opened a go-fund me account for thwm, with which money will they buy the players?
Someone invested billions of dollars in something and you are expecting to siddon look as the thing is crashing in his or her presence without taking any step?
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Moraler: 9:38am On Apr 20
N2B2:
Florentino Perez has bullishly defended the creation of the European Super League, which was announced on Sunday.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2021/04/20/607e0c7e268e3e5a2a8b45db.html

If ESL formation has undertone, it seems more like protest/revolt against world football governing body. Now they can see importance of fan and some key players over price....

If they ESL club and competition rules are not subject to world football governing body, they have to be squash soonest to avoid damages to original designs rules.....more like ESL becomes sell of gamers....
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by kiddkash(m): 9:40am On Apr 20
Whitecoal711:

Typo
its not a typo. you might have known it, but you didn't present it well.
it was a mistake. own it


not excuses
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by ebuka10box(m): 9:48am On Apr 20
MOTOPARK:
how you take know Sai nah match fixing grin grin
my broda if u watch that game ,u go know say dem fix am draw
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by HopeSpencer: 9:53am On Apr 20
ebuka10box:
this is the reason I gotta stop betting, dem dey use my money for business...see how they fixed arsenal Fulham game

They are going bankrupt...so they are now generating money from betting. Even Leeds vs Liverpool game yesterday was fixed. I told someone Liverpool won't win and they didn't.
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Whitecoal711: 10:12am On Apr 20
kiddkash:

its not a typo. you might have known it, but you didn't present it well.
it was a mistake. own it


not excuses
Lol
Your type like argument
Use am go bank go collect money
See how aggressive you are
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by kiddkash(m): 10:14am On Apr 20
Whitecoal711:

Lol
Your type like argument
Use am go bank go collect money
See how aggressive you are
hahaha don't take it personal. just trying to have expensive fun this morning

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Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Whitecoal711: 10:17am On Apr 20
kiddkash:

hahaha don't take it personal. just trying to have expensive fun this morning
Love your,life is too short for shh..t
Collect any drink of your choice at any bar close by,bill on me
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by IGoComotYaTeeth: 10:19am On Apr 20
SoBright101:
Many people don't understand what these big clubs are going through. Their business has been affected by Covid, players refused pay cut, no fans on stadium plus UEFA greediness.

UEFA and clubs involved should sit on round table.
copy and paste! have some shame
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by larryjonze: 10:21am On Apr 20
SoBright101:
Many people don't understand what these big clubs are going through. Their business has been affected by Covid, players refused pay cut, no fans on stadium plus UEFA greediness.

UEFA and clubs involved should sit on round table.


The most feasible way out is pay cut to those players already i strongly believe they are been over paid, if all club management unite to enforce a pay cut nothing those player can do.
whatever covid did to FIFA will still happen with super league because we are talking pandemic here ... to save time, energy and resources the most viable option is a temporary pay cut.
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by alfredilly: 10:24am On Apr 20
SoBright101:
Many people don't understand what these big clubs are going through. Their business has been affected by Covid, players refused pay cut, no fans on stadium plus UEFA greediness.

UEFA and clubs involved should sit on round table.
This plan has been on before the outbreak of covid-19. I remember toward the end of 2018-19 season when debate on it got intensified. Are small club not also affected by covid-19. Is it by excluding the small one that football will be saved. Foolish people.

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Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Athemisia: 10:26am On Apr 20
Whitecoal711:
Football doesn't end on the big teams,it's the intrigue of smaller teams defeating the so called bigger clubs
If you guys destroy this gladiator of our time, prosperity will not forget you
Give the small clubs cash and see if they won't Excel
Football is the surprise defeats not greed for more money
Give the small teams cash?? shey you get money ni?? go and give them cash... awon cash giver..

these clubs owners are protecting their own investment... UEFA is only angry because of their own financial interest in these big clubs too...

Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by alfredilly: 10:27am On Apr 20
larryjonze:



The most feasible way out is pay cut to those players already i strongly believe they are been over paid, if all club management unite to enforce a pay cut nothing those player can do.
whatever covid did to FIFA will still happen with super league because we are talking pandemic here ... to save time, energy and resources the most viable option is a temporary pay cut.

Bro, that covid was a lame excuse. The plan has been on before the pandemic. I in 2018 /19 season when a schedule was fix for it to kickstart.
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by EagleNest(m): 10:32am On Apr 20
sterlingD:


Correct me if l am wrong.The problem started when big money entered European football.l know it's all about the money. There was no regulation to curtail the excessive big money spending in the beginning and if there was it was not effective until it became too late that is financial fair play.

The ESL idea had been floated a while back long before COVID-19 and was vehemently rejected.Now they have come with it with full force and are going ahead with it.What is left to be seen is how UEFA and FIFA will eventually handle it.Will they go ahead with their threats and sanctions?

You made a good point. Where is the interest of fans in all these? What will fans had preferred?
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Nobody: 10:33am On Apr 20
BabaIbo:
Change is inevitable.

Empty stadiums etc have forced these clubs into a lot of debts.
Don't forget they have players they pay large sum of money, if there are no fans to generate money from, where will they get funds to pay the players from? Owners personal money?

They complained that UEFA is paying them little amount compared to what they generate from the competition.

Reason it this way.

A club signs a big name player with many fans, the player follows the club to play in a competition which his fans will probably watch because their fave is playing in the competition.
UEFA generate money through views, TV rights etc, while the club don't because the stadium is empty, the club will be the one to pay the player, foot the transportation, lodging and other bills, pay the domestic staffs, etc

At the end UEFA pays they little amount that can't even pay off the players 1 month or 2 months salary.

UEFA is catching out where they didn't work.

UEFA should either share do one of these...
1. After removing 10 to 20 percent of the total money generated from the competition and also removing the prized money for each stage.
They should share the remaining money among all the participating clubs to help them fight their growing expenses.

2. Allow them have their own way(ESL).

You can't be catching out at the expense of these clubs and their stadiums are empty, thereby making it difficult for them to run the clubs.

Real Madrid was in debt before covid..barca was over a billion in debt before covid...apart from fans going to the make money from sponsorships...tv revenue..ads and none of those stopped
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Nobody: 10:35am On Apr 20
Athemisia:

Give the small teams cash?? shey you get money ni?? go and give them cash... awon cash giver..

these clubs owners are protecting their own investment... UEFA is only angry because of their own financial interest in these big clubs too...

What interest.....what exactly is cheksea protecting..during the pandemic,Chelsea remained buoyant due to their business model....know what you talk about
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by EagleNest(m): 10:36am On Apr 20
rockyh:
can you compare the financial implication of barcelona to real zaragoza as regards players salaries.leo Messi's salary is enough to clear up half the whole team players own

My point is that the money paid to these stars are excessive. Yes, they generate money for the club but their salary and perks are abnormal. I doubt if the likes of Diego Maradona with all their magical prowess were paid this mad money.
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Nobody: 10:37am On Apr 20
alfredilly:


Bro, that covid was a lame excuse. The plan has been on before the pandemic. I in 2018 /19 season when a schedule was fix for it to kickstart.


Perez..Berlusconi and angelli floated this idea 20 years ago which led to the new champions league formatt that was later put in place by the uefa president, johanssen
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Nobody: 10:37am On Apr 20
BabaIbo:


First of all, the clubs are not asking for their stadiums to be opened.
So, that settles your opening of stadium question.

Secondly, what they are requesting for is a form of palliative to help them run their business smoothly. At least, you know governments all over gave palliative(bailout) to their citizens and businesses to help them cope with covid effect.

Thirdly, most players refused to cut their pay. The recent one is Sergio Ramos, he even threaten to leave rather than cut his pay. Do you know how much Messi takes yearly?
Over there,they are bound to respect a contract until it runs out if the other party(that is the player refuse their offer of pay cut).
Kindly tell me how they will do that please. A club with monthly spending(running cost/expenses) of 50 million dollars is generating 5 million dollars, abeg which magic dem go use do am.

Those that are shouting "greed" are just ignorant of the situations. I know money is involved, Yes. Who will invest bilions of dollars on an investment and watch it not generate money for him/her and will fold his or her arms.
Do you expect them to take Liam for that or use money from their other businesses to run this one? Is that a wise business decision?

Do you know the total prized money of UCL is 100 - 120 m dollars or so?
Can that money when get a world class player this moment?
And that is just for the winner, at the end of the day UEFA will pocket the remaining money generated via the completion and the teams will now be the one to look for ways to sort the players and other staffs wages.

Since UEFA is not doing anything concerning their plea, they decided to help themselves by creating ESL, where top teams will play eachother severally in a year and that will help them generate a lot of income because they will get the returns directly, irrespective of your position in the competition.

Think of it this way,
You said you don't follow football but sometimes you watch football, right?
And those matches you do watch are big clubs matches e.g Liverpool vs Man U, Man city vs Chelsea, Tottenham vs Arsenal, Barça vs Madrid, Juventus vs Inter/AC Milan etc.

ESL will afford viewers the opportunity to watch those top matches and they will be able to get the TV rights directly to the teams.

Response to your second point: are they asking for palliatives to keep paying exorbitant fees or are they asking for palliatives like every other tax payers that got half of what they deserved? ( I asked because I am not privy to their demands and from your response I can only infer that they want money to keep receiving fat cheques while the rest of the world are cutting down for the greater good)

To your third point: yes contractual agreement is nothing to renege on, you will face a swift push back with all sort of litigations. But let me tell you, last year a friend of mine works full time when the COVID hit, he still collects his full time pay but he discussed with his landlord that he had to work from home and was on technical unemployment ( which wasn't the case because he can do his job 100 per from home). His landlord set aside his contract and asked him to per 75per of the rent for three months. The point of this is that most contract can be renegotiated in good faith. Maybe we need to know the inner working of the club, this will give us an idea on why the player threatened to leave. Maybe management want to cut other people's pay without adjusting theirs. Have you considered that could be the case? If I have the power personally I would not give up a cent of my salary if management refused to adjust theirs as well.

How are you certain that UEFA isn't doing anything about it? I have been opportuned to be in the inner working of an organization. A times that an agreement has not been reach on how to move forward does not mean something isn't being done. I also can not say for sure whether UEFA is being unfair until we are privy to details of those close doors meetings.

My argument with you steams from closing of stadium or not which we have agreed upon.
That aside, why I think the ESL is a bad idea is that it will give exclusive access to big teams. This will not only kill talents but will affect talents from poor countries the most. Majority of the talents from poor countries started off from small team that had the opportunity to play on big stage. If the big stage becomes restricted to only the haves what happens to the future of the have-nots?

Even in business a times you have to put the overall objectives and long term gain into consideration.

Like I said in one of my previous responses, I am not a football fan I am only using common sense here. But if you are able to explain to be how ESL will not be disadvantaged to mostly talents from poor countries like African I will appreciate it.
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Nobody: 10:39am On Apr 20
EagleNest:


My point is that the money paid to these stars are excessive. Yes, they generate money for the club but their salary and perks are abnormal. I doubt if the likes of Diego Maradona with all their magical prowess were paid this mad money.

Who made it excessive...the same clubs thst demanded and paid for it..you don't see dortmund going about saying fir the good of the game,let's sell Haaland for 5 mil..nope...Madrid will come and bid 100 mil..just like chelsea..utd and barca but yea let's blame others
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Nobody: 10:40am On Apr 20
Also....do you think of enjoy watching my stupid denver Broncos team participate in tournaments,be bad with no consequences....get that NBA,NFL concept out of football
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by BabaIbo: 10:56am On Apr 20
slachtoffers:


Response to your second point: are they asking for palliatives to keep paying exorbitant fees or are they asking for palliatives like every other tax payers that got half of what they deserved? ( I asked because I am not privy to their demands and from your response I can only infer that they want money to keep receiving fat cheques while the rest of the world are cutting down for the greater good)

To your third point: yes contractual agreement is nothing to renege on, you will face a swift push back with all sort of litigations. But let me tell you, last year a friend of mine works full time when the COVID hit, he still collects his full time pay but he discussed with his landlord that he had to work from home and was on technical unemployment ( which wasn't the case because he can do his job 100 per from home). His landlord set aside his contract and asked him to per 75per of the rent for three months. The point of this is that most contract can be renegotiated in good faith. Maybe we need to know the inner working of the club, this will give us an idea on why the player threatened to leave. Maybe management want to cut other people's pay without adjusting theirs. Have you considered that could be the case? If I have the power personally I would not give up a cent of my salary if management refused to adjust theirs as well.

How are you certain that UEFA isn't doing anything about it? I have been opportuned to be in the inner working of an organization. A times that an agreement has not been reach on how to move forward does not mean something isn't being done. I also can not say for sure whether UEFA is being unfair until we are privy to details of those close doors meetings.

My argument with you steams from closing of stadium or not which we have agreed upon.
That aside, why I think the ESL is a bad idea is that it will give exclusive access to big teams. This will not only kill talents but will affect talents from poor countries the most. Majority of the talents from poor countries started off from small team that had the opportunity to play on big stage. If the big stage becomes restricted to only the haves what happens to the future of the have-nots?

Even in business a times you have to put the overall objectives and long term gain into consideration.

Like I said in one of my previous responses, I am not a football fan I am only using common sense here. But if you are able to explain to be how ESL will not be disadvantaged to mostly talents from poor countries like African I will appreciate it.


From your first two paragraphs, I think you should let the clubs be and focus more on the players.

If the clubs want to cut but the players don't want pay cut, what will you do? Force them, I guess you would not want to try that.

If UEFA took necessary steps, there is no way you won't read about it in the news, because they will surely use it as excuse in order to make those clubs look bad and also win public sympathy.

I'm not the one you are arguing with over stadium closure, I only responded to your response to the guy that mentioned closed stadium, simply because you tried using covid as reasons while these clubs should continue running despite their challenges and you're still against their actions(ESL) to help themselves out of that challenges.
Maybe you should read on how that body against them is formed or some other football competitions, you will understand better.

Again, every industry has their working principles, there are things you don't just decide to use common sense on.

I have worked in organizations in the past, and I know what I'm saying.
Infact, I stopped working for others as a result of payment issue.
The owner called us(the top earners) for a meeting and he told us he can no longer afford to pay us since the company is not making enough money to cater for that, he said he has been running it with his own personal money, that he can no longer do that, he paid us off and everyone went their ways.

Can you use such style in football? Call the clubs top earners(who are probably the main stars), pay them off and tell them to go. Which players will they play with? Feeders team? grin

It may work in banking industry but it won't work in oil industry.

Banks can cut their labour size and operate from few branches, but oil companies can't sack their expatriates, it is either they replace them or they meet the agreed terms. I don't know maybe you get the point I am trying to make using day to day lives.

Note: By Oil companies, I mean those that do exploration not petrol stations.
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by larryjonze: 11:05am On Apr 20
alfredilly:


Bro, that covid was a lame excuse. The plan has been on before the pandemic. I in 2018 /19 season when a schedule was fix for it to kickstart.


whether the covid excuse is lame or not the reality on ground is football clubs are running @ loss and if the situation is not address on time most clubs will not be able to meet the financial obligations.
Therefore, i expect Fifa to sit with these clubs and come up policy thats will cuisine the effect of pandemic,like i said there best option for now is pay cut. even under a norm economy €350k per week is insane & outrageous
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Classickj(m): 11:11am On Apr 20
Addme:

Even if UEFA does not ban them,the ESL is to be played midweek which is almost the same time Champions League matches are played. So it's almost impossible for these big teams to play their domestic leagues during weekends, play ESL in midweek and also play UCL midweek, so in other words,there won't be UCL for them again. They actually planned this to rival UCL.
The ESL is here to replace the ucl for the big team... So no more ucl for the big team... The money in ESL is much compare to the money in ucl
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by BabaIbo: 11:12am On Apr 20
milehigh06:


Real Madrid was in debt before covid..barca was over a billion in debt before covid...apart from fans going to the make money from sponsorships...tv revenue..ads and none of those stopped


They are in such debt in normal situation, now imagine what their debt will be like during and after covid, considering the fact that their strength of servicing the debt would have reduced due to empty stadiums etc.
When you have a business and you're running into debt, do you sit down and watch expecting the situation to change so that you can clear it and if it doesn't change you allow it to pile up or you take steps on clearing the debt.

You funny, so those companies sponsoring them are on a charity mission, right?
Or you think they receive TV rights revenue directly?
Read more on how the TV right revenue is shared abeg, before assuming the money enters their accounts directly.

It's simple, the demand to spend is increasing and the income is reducing. So, they need something that can can give them such money.

Those clubs are people's businesses or investments, they have shareholders, hope you know?

Why do you think dangote is taking his time before bidding for Arsenal? If it is easy he would have done it straight-up na.
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by DAVE5(m): 11:16am On Apr 20
Tmlivesport:
AND IT HAS COME TO STAY

By 2024 Almost all the big club will be dead because of lack of fund due to the effect of pandemic



The thing that’s killing club revenues are price of players and weekly wages, but it’s those same big clubs that escalated the prices of the so called players to the point where they themselves can’t cope

What do I know sef abeg?
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by udemzyudex(m): 11:17am On Apr 20
slachtoffers:


Why you mumu like this?

COVID 19 regulations are made by countries. Each country has its rule on gathering it is a law that is way beyond the pay grade of football Council.

Secondly, do you guys have any idea how bad Covid is in Europe? Just to please some over paid entertainers you want to open the stadium, do you know what shit show that will be?

COVID is no joke health care system has been stretched, small businesses are taking losses and they do it quietly for the greater good, why not the big businesses.


You daft I swear.

people no dey go market?

people no dey go mosque or church?

Dem don dey hold party, if na politics you go see people dey gather for campaign but e reach football now covid dey abi?

See your life for outside.
Re: Florentino Perez: We Made The Super League To Save Football by Nobody: 11:20am On Apr 20
BabaIbo:


They are in such debt in normal situation, now imagine what their debt will be like during and after covid, considering the fact that their strength of servicing the debt would have reduced due to empty stadiums etc.
When you have a business and you're running into debt, do you sit down and watch expecting the situation to change so that you can clear it and if it doesn't change you allow it to pile up or you take steps on clearing the debt.

You funny, so those companies sponsoring them are on a charity mission, right?
Or you think they receive TV rights revenue directly?
Read more on how the TV right revenue is shared abeg, before assuming the money enters their accounts directly.

It's simple, the demand to spend is increasing and the income is reducing. So, they need something that can can give them such money.

Those clubs are people's businesses or investments, they have shareholders, hope you know?

Why do you think dangote is taking his time before bidding for Arsenal? If it is easy he would have done it straight-up na.


Wtf are you talking about..who created the level of crazy spending...I don't see Westhampton spending crazy money on players..Madrid..chrlsea..utd and city continously spend recklessly on stupid transfer fees but yea let's Blane their lack of foresight on others

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