Ayetobi92:

China stopped reporting cases

Cases are still being updated on worldometer for China

I believe.... You know what I mean.

As soon as they started vaccination their was an explosion in cases and deaths, when we talk now we get called conspiracy theorists.

AreaFada2:



Remember most vaccines require two doses.

The deaths are not linked to vaccines.

Had India fully vaccinated up to just 350 million adults by now, especially over 45s that make up 80% of deaths in India, the death rate would be far less by now.

I follow your reasoning... see where you're coming from. Let's reason.... there is a definition for vaccines. To be called a vaccine certain requirements must be met. None of the requirements is met by the Pfizer or any other mRNA "vaccine " but .... like wolves in sheep's clothing .... the experts pass them off as vaccines. Why? A true vaccine has some part of a particular virus that is introduced to the body to allow the immune system to recognize it and develop "weapons" to attack and neutralize it should that virus ever enter your body.... the reason most people are given a vaccine only once for life.... you become immune to that virus.... never mind the virus is floating about. E.g... in the US .... Chicken Pox was like a must... almost everyone had to contract it ....but after they finally developed a vaccine it is now a rare disease. Pfizer and other mRNA "vaccines" do not have any part of any virus.... no part of any organism... the reason it will not make you contract COVID-19 even if you have AIDS.... it is not biological... it is very much like a "computer virus" that will manipulate your immune system ... the same way a "virus" manipulates your computer operating system.

The more people got vaccinated in the US... the higher the deaths. So does the vaccine really offer protection against the disease?... if all in India were vaccinated would COVID-19 been rare? It's been rare in China more than a year ago... before any vaccines.

COVID-19 "vaccines" .... do you realize they do not say it prevents you from contracting COVID-19? Listen with both ears.... they say it is safe and effective... what does that really mean? They say it prevents you from serious disease and hospitalization ... does that mean no more malaria?... herpes? ... what does that really mean?

Back to the million Naira question..... are these people really dying of COVID-19? ....remember... Post Mortem on the victims is basically banned.... or are they from repercussions of the "vaccines"? Why are they dying when COVID-19 has a 95% plus survival rate? ... just like SARS... just like MERS.... both corona virus diseases?

Just giving you food to chew on .... hoping it was cooked well enough for you to chew and swallow!

Pls don't let them come to Nigeria. Everybody warned them but they said corona is fake now corona is faking their a s s es.

Originalsly:


I follow your reasoning... see where you're coming from. Let's reason.... there is a definition for vaccines. To be called a vaccine certain requirements must be met. None of the requirements is met by the Pfizer or any other mRNA "vaccine " but .... like wolves in sheep's clothing .... the experts pass them off as vaccines. Why? A true vaccine has some part of a particular virus that is introduced to the body to allow the immune system to recognize it and develop "weapons" to attack and neutralize it should that virus ever enter your body.... the reason most people are given a vaccine only once for life.... you become immune to that virus.... never mind the virus is floating about. E.g... in the US .... Chicken Pox was like a must... almost everyone had to contract it ....but after they finally developed a vaccine it is now a rare disease. Pfizer and other mRNA "vaccines" do not have any part of any virus.... no part of any organism... the reason it will not make you contract COVID-19 even if you have AIDS.... it is not biological... it is very much like a "computer virus" that will manipulate your immune system ... the same way a "virus" manipulates your computer operating system.
COVID-19 "vaccines" .... do you realize they do not say it prevents you from contracting COVID-19? Listen with both ears.... they say it is safe and effective... what does that really mean? They say it prevents you from serious disease and hospitalization ... does that mean no more malaria?... herpes? ... what does that really mean?

Back to the million Naira question..... are these people really dying of COVID-19? ....remember... Post Mortem on the victims is basically banned.... or are they from repercussions of the "vaccines"? Why are they dying when COVID-19 has a 95% plus survival rate? ... just like SARS... just like MERS.... both corona virus diseases?

Just giving you food to chew on .... hoping it was cooked well enough for you to chew and swallow!

What the hell are all these your epistle about? Stop putting people life in danger Convid is real Mr man.

India refused to take the vaccine they claimed its poisonous and against their religion so get your fact right and pls stop confusing people.

UK has vaccinated over 40 million of their citizen and since the vaccination given have you heard again people are dying in thousands even hundreds again in UK?

Stop confusing people. Safe life. Be sensitive.

Chimoo...!

At this point we need to stop flight coming in from india

Froshloaded:
Mr Bubu should please prevent Indians from flying in for now.

Specify or signify the Bubu u referring to o. It seems we have different versions

Indian government should step up the fight against covid infection by making sure all their citizens including foreigners in India are vaccinated against the disease.

India have one of the world largest population.

Covid infection in India will threaten global health grossly.

Hong Kong being one of the business hub like Singapore, Guaghzou, Kuala Lumpur etc should also put preventive measure in place to check covid.

China took took the world unawares

Originalsly:
Let me ask..... why the sudden record deaths in India? Did the victims receive the "vaccines"? ... which ones? The more people are "vaccinated" the higher the death rate.... why? Can the deaths be linked to the "vaccines"? They say people are dying of COVID-19... how do they know when post mortem/autopsy is not carried out?... is not allowed to be carried out by WHO? We need to listen with both ears... look with both eyes... and chew very well before we decide if to swallow what they are feeding us.

it's funny the world is now full of less intelligent people, would you have said all this, if the situation in nigeria is same? If they had received vaccines will surely had been reported.. anyways just be grateful..

Originalsly:


I follow your reasoning... see where you're coming from. Let's reason.... there is a definition for vaccines. To be called a vaccine certain requirements must be met. None of the requirements is met by the Pfizer or any other mRNA "vaccine " but .... like wolves in sheep's clothing .... the experts pass them off as vaccines. Why? A true vaccine has some part of a particular virus that is introduced to the body to allow the immune system to recognize it and develop "weapons" to attack and neutralize it should that virus ever enter your body.... the reason most people are given a vaccine only once for life.... you become immune to that virus.... never mind the virus is floating about. E.g... in the US .... Chicken Pox was like a must... almost everyone had to contract it ....but after they finally developed a vaccine it is now a rare disease. Pfizer and other mRNA "vaccines" do not have any part of any virus.... no part of any organism... the reason it will not make you contract COVID-19 even if you have AIDS.... it is not biological... it is very much like a "computer virus" that will manipulate your immune system ... the same way a "virus" manipulates your computer operating system.

The more people got vaccinated in the US... the higher the deaths. So does the vaccine really offer protection against the disease?... if all in India were vaccinated would COVID-19 been rare? It's been rare in China more than a year ago... before any vaccines.

COVID-19 "vaccines" .... do you realize they do not say it prevents you from contracting COVID-19? Listen with both ears.... they say it is safe and effective... what does that really mean? They say it prevents you from serious disease and hospitalization ... does that mean no more malaria?... herpes? ... what does that really mean?

Back to the million Naira question..... are these people really dying of COVID-19? ....remember... Post Mortem on the victims is basically banned.... or are they from repercussions of the "vaccines"? Why are they dying when COVID-19 has a 95% plus survival rate? ... just like SARS... just like MERS.... both corona virus diseases?

Just giving you food to chew on .... hoping it was cooked well enough for you to chew and swallow!

Well, it's good to have Covid-19 and vaccine sceptics but it's good to have good first had experience of vaccinology to publicly assert things. Because such arguments in the beginning in most countries last year cost lives as conspiracy theories spread.
I don't know how you know about virology or vaccinology but the terminologies used are pretty standard. mRNA or serious disease are mean what they mean if you know the the topic. I guess the failure has been that experts relied on their credibility to convince the masses instead trying to explain in layman terms. The world is different now due to social media. Conspiracy theories spread fast and pander to people's suspicion towards the authorities.
Genetic vaccines are not new in development. DNA and rRNA types for different infections were already being developed, DNA was even in clinical trial.
Vaccine development has not remained stagnant since the days of Jenner and Pasteur. It has moved on. Just like you now have iphone instead of telegraph or even recently landline.
Live-attenuated vaccine like MMR wasn't going to cut it. Viral vector vaccine like Ebola vaccine wasn't that effect back then, though fairly quick to produce. Subunit vaccines use for most childhood vaccines like tetanus, meningococcus or diphtheria were also ruled out considering the urgency of it.

Nucleic acid vaccine/DNA/mRNA is clearly the right approach. Here, only a tiny part of the genetic material needed to be copied and used to make the vaccine. The spike protein has proved ideal once the viral genome was very quickly sequenced by the Chinese and put online for scientist
Ds to access.
The terms used are clinical: disease means the pathology/illness resulting from infection/virus' activity (and body's reaction to it) inside the body. If mild, moderate or severe/serious. Hospitalisation: if the disease/illness needs hospital admission (meaning probably moderate or severe). Effective means how good is it at preventing at doing the job, as in if you vaccinate 100 people, how many will as a result not fall ill or die. If 75% or above you may say it's effective. It depends. Of course if 95% or above, even better.

In the USA, vaccine use during Trump time was low. Governors complained of no PPE, no vaccines. Only since Biden did the vaccination hit 100m and now 200m. Biden actually promised 100m within 100 days and 200m to have been vaccinated within 200 days in office. He achieved 200m even earlier.
Remember, if you caught covid-19 two days ago and get vaccinated today, the vaccine won't work yet. So the person if vulnerable may still get very ill or die. Trump denying supporters and Trump were not helpful to Covid fight.
Many old vaccines need boosters after 10 years in many cases. Flu vaccine in Europe/America is taken yearly because the virus mutates quickly. A slightly new vaccine is needed. No vaccine is 100% effective, so don't expect Covid-19 to be. Even flu jab taken yearly is not 100%.

AreaFada2:


Well, it's good to have Covid-19 and vaccine sceptics but it's good to have good first had experience of vaccinology to publicly assert things. Because such arguments in the beginning in most countries last year cost lives as conspiracy theories spread.
I don't know how you know about virology or vaccinology but the terminologies used are pretty standard. mRNA or serious disease are mean what they mean if you know the the topic. I guess the failure has been that experts relied on their credibility to convince the masses instead trying to explain in layman terms. The world is different now due to social media. Conspiracy theories spread fast and pander to people's suspicion towards the authorities.
Genetic vaccines are not new in development. DNA and rRNA types for different infections were already being developed, DNA was even in clinical trial.
Vaccine development has not remained stagnant since the days of Jenner and Pasteur. It has moved on. Just like you now have iphone instead of telegraph or even recently landline.
Live-attenuated vaccine like MMR wasn't going to cut it. Viral vector vaccine like Ebola vaccine wasn't that effect back then, though fairly quick to produce. Subunit vaccines use for most childhood vaccines like tetanus, meningococcus or diphtheria were also ruled out considering the urgency of it.

Nucleic acid vaccine/DNA/mRNA is clearly the right approach. Here, only a tiny part of the genetic material needed to be copied and used to make the vaccine. The spike protein has proved ideal once the viral genome was very quickly sequenced by the Chinese and put online for scientists to access.

Fair enough. When information counters the official information it is labeled conspiracy theory. Those who were claiming soldiers opened fire at protesters at Lekki Toll Gate were conspiracy theorists because the official information was soldiers were not there.
No doubt... there are conspiracy theorists.....and many online who do not know what they are talking about. I am not a virologist... nor vaccinologist... but have been listening to some of the world's most distinguished virologist ... ones who have been making vaccines and know how they work. They have been desperately giving warnings for us not to take mRNA vaccines. Of all you said.... below is a brief on how mRNA vaccines basically work. Sounds fine... but let me ask.... when the mRNA vaccine instructs the cells to make the spikes for that specific virus.... what will instruct the cells to stop making the spikes? See if you can find an answer to this..... because they will not tell you. This is basically the hijacking of your immune response and system. From what I learned... naturally... your immune system has a response system.... like a captain directing the cells to produce antibodies and launch an attack on the virus. When the virus is neutralized there is another command to stop production of the antibodies and ehmmm..... all attacking cells to return to barracks. The mRNA vaccines give instructions to produce but there is no counter instruction in place to stop production. Spike proteins is produced whether there is a threat or not. What will happen in the long run.... the vaccine makers are observing you to find out.... takers are basically Guinea pigs. Listen with both ears.... COVID-19 vaccines were developed to counter a particular strain.... but now they are saying it works for other strains... the science is changing conveniently. Note... I am not saying COVID-19 is not real.... I've been hit hard with it before it was declared a pandemic.

They have started ' sharing' the virus all over again.

Abi....

We dey watch!

Restrictions are really necessary. Especially for the United States and Europe, the United States and Europe are very likely to be the true birthplace of the new crown.