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Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by cogsej06(m): 6:35pm On Apr 24, 2011
Very courageous  I must confess, only pray bless n protect him and his family. Only hope other fanatical muslims saw what true ISLAM preaches.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by UNLEASHED(m): 6:48pm On Apr 24, 2011
May God bless him and his household
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Nobody: 6:49pm On Apr 24, 2011
Bologi acted inspite of Islam.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by LadyT(f): 6:57pm On Apr 24, 2011
Shame he is a MINORITY. sad
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Vicjustice: 7:02pm On Apr 24, 2011
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Qur'an:9:123 "Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you."
Muslim:C9B1N31 "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the Messenger and in all that I have brought."  


  With the above quotes, that Muslim who saved a Pastor's life is a traitor Islam, howbeit, a good human.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Vicjustice: 7:09pm On Apr 24, 2011
Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
   
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
   
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."    

Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."    

Ishaq:325 "Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."
   
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."    

Muslim:C9B1N31 "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the Messenger and in all that I have brought."

Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
 
Ishaq:324 "He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"
   
Qur'an:9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."
   
Ishaq:300 "I am fighting in Allah's service. This is piety and a good deed. In Allah's war I do not fear as others should. For this fighting is righteous, true, and good."
   
Ishaq:587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."
   
Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."    

Ishaq:326 "Prophet exhort the believers to fight. If there are twenty good fighters they will defeat two hundred for they are a senseless people. They do not fight with good intentions nor for truth."    

Bukhari:V4B52N63 "A man whose face was covered with an iron mask came to the Prophet and said, 'Allah's Apostle! Shall I fight or embrace Islam first?' The Prophet said, 'Embrace Islam first and then fight.' So he embraced Islam, and was martyred. Allah's Apostle said, 'A Little work, but a great reward.'"    

Bukhari:V4B53N386 "Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah alone or pay us the Jizyah tribute tax in submission. Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says: 'Whoever amongst us is killed as a martyr shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever survives shall become your master.'"    

Muslim:C34B20N4668 "The Messenger said: 'Anybody who equips a warrior going to fight in the Way of Allah is like one who actually fights. And anybody who looks after his family in his absence is also like one who actually fights."    

Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."
   
Qur'an:9:123 "Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you."    

Qur'an:8:72 "Those who accepted Islam and left their homes to fight in Allah's Cause with their possessions and persons, and those who gave (them) asylum, aid, and shelter, those who harbored them - these are allies of one another. You are not responsible for protecting those who embraced Islam but did not leave their homes [to fight] until they do so." [Another translation reads:] "You are only called to protect Muslims who fight."
   

Bukhari:V9B84N59 "Whoever says this will save his property and life from me.'"
   
Qur'an:8:73 "The unbelieving infidels are allies. Unless you (Muslims) aid each other (fighting as one united block to make Allah's religion victorious), there will be confusion and mischief. Those who accepted Islam, left their homes to fight in Allah's Cause (al-Jihad), as well as those who give them asylum, shelter, and aid - these are (all) Believers: for them is pardon and bountiful provision (in Paradise)."
 
Tabari IX:69 "Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah's helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us."    

Qur'an:48:16 "Say (Muhammad) to the wandering desert Arabs who lagged behind: 'You shall be invited to fight against a people given to war with mighty prowess. You shall fight them until they surrender and submit. If you obey, Allah will grant you a reward, but if you turn back, as you did before, He will punish you with a grievous torture."    

Qur'an:48:22 "If the unbelieving infidels fight against you, they will retreat. (Such has been) the practice (approved) of Allah in the past: no change will you find in the ways of Allah."    

Qur'an:47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."    

Qur'an:47:31 "And We shall try you until We know those among you who are the fighters."
   
Tabari VI:138 "Those present at the oath of Aqabah had sworn an allegiance to Muhammad. It was a pledge of war against all men. Allah had permitted fighting."
   
Tabari VI:139 "Allah had given his Messenger permission to fight by revealing the verse 'And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah.'"
   
Qur'an:9:19 "Do you make the giving of drink to pilgrims, or the maintenance of the Mosque, equal to those who fight in the Cause of Allah? They are not comparable in the sight of Allah. Those who believe, and left their homes, striving with might, fighting in Allah's Cause with their goods and their lives, have the highest rank in the sight of Allah."    

Ishaq:550 "The Muslims met them with their swords. They cut through many arms and skulls. Only confused cries and groans could be heard over our battle roars and snarling."    

Qur'an:5:94 "Believers, Allah will make a test for you in the form of a little game in which you reach out for your lances. Any who fails this test will have a grievous punishment."    

Ishaq:578 "Crushing the heads of the infidels and splitting their skulls with sharp swords, we continually thrust and cut at the enemy. Blood gushed from their deep wounds as the battle wore them down. We conquered bearing the Prophet's fluttering war banner. Our cavalry was submerged in rising dust, and our spears quivered, but by us the Prophet gained victory."    

Tabari IX:22 "The Prophet continued to besiege the town, fighting them bitterly."    

Tabari IX:25 "By Allah, I did not come to fight for nothing. I wanted a victory over Ta'if so that I might obtain a slave girl from them and make her pregnant."
 
Tabari IX:82 "The Messenger sent Khalid with an army of 400 to Harith [a South Arabian tribe] and ordered him to invite them to Islam for three days before he fought them. If they were to respond and submit, he was to teach them the Book of Allah, the Sunnah of His Prophet, and the requirements of Islam. If they should decline, then he was to fight them."    

Tabari IX:88 "Abdallah Azdi came to the Messenger, embraced Islam, and became a good Muslim. Allah's Apostle invested Azdi with the authority over those who had surrendered and ordered him to fight the infidels from the tribes of Yemen. Azdi left with an army by the Messenger's command. The Muslims besieged them for a month. Then they withdrew, setting a trap. When the Yemenites went in pursuit, Azdi was able to inflict a heavy loss on them."
   
Ishaq:530 "Get out of his way, you infidel unbelievers. Every good thing goes with the Apostle. Lord, I believe in his word. We will fight you about its interpretations as we have fought you about its revelation with strokes that will remove heads from shoulders and make enemies of friends."
   
Muslim:C9B1N29 "Command For Fighting Against People So Long As They Do Not Profess That There Is No Ilah (God) But Allah And Muhammad Is His Messenger: When the Messenger breathed his last and Bakr was appointed Caliph, many Arabs chose to become apostates [rejected Islam]. Abu Bakr said: 'I will definitely fight against anyone who stops paying the Zakat tax, for it is an obligation. I will fight against them even to secure the cord used for hobbling the feet of a camel which they used to pay if they withhold it now.' Allah had justified fighting against those who refused to pay Zakat."    

Muslim:C9B1N33 "The Prophet said: 'I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prostration prayer, and pay Zakat. If they do it, their blood and property are protected.'"
   
Muslim:C10B1N176 "Muhammad (may peace be upon him) sent us in a raiding party. We raided Huraqat in the morning. I caught hold of a man and he said: 'There is no god but Allah,' but I attacked him with a spear anyway. It once occurred to me that I should ask the Apostle about this. The Messenger said: 'Did he profess "There is no god but Allah," and even then you killed him?' I said: 'He made a profession out of the fear of the weapon I was threatening him with.' The Prophet said: 'Did you tear out his heart in order to find out whether it had professed truly or not?'"    

Muslim:C20B1N4597 "The Prophet said at the conquest of Mecca: 'There is no migration now, but only Jihad, fighting for the Cause of Islam. When you are asked to set out on a Jihad expedition, you should readily do so.'"    

Muslim:C28B20N4628 "Allah has undertaken to provide for one who leaves his home to fight for His Cause and to affirm the truth of His word; Allah will either admit him to Paradise or will bring him back home with his reward and booty."    

Muslim:C28B20N4629 "The Messenger said: 'One who is wounded in the Way of Allah - and Allah knows best who is wounded in His Way - will appear on the Day of Judgment with his wound still bleeding. The color (of its discharge) will be blood, (but) its smell will be musk.'"
   
Muslim:C34B20N4652-3 "The Merit Of Jihad And Of Keeping Vigilance Over The Enemy: A man came to the Holy Prophet and said: 'Who is the best of men?' He replied: 'A man who fights staking his life and spending his wealth in Allah's Cause.'"    

Muslim:C42B20N4684 "A desert Arab came to the Prophet and said: 'Messenger, one man fights for the spoils of war; another fights that he may be remembered, and one fights that he may see his (high) position (achieved as a result of his valor in fighting). Which of these is fighting in the Cause of Allah?' The Messenger of Allah said: 'Who fights so that the word of Allah is exalted is fighting in the Way of Allah.'"    

Muslim:C53B20N4717 "The Prophet said: 'This religion will continue to exist, and a group of people from the Muslims will continue to fight for its protection until the Hour is established.'"    

Bukhari:V5B59N288 "I witnessed a scene that was dearer to me than anything I had ever seen. Aswad came to the Prophet while Muhammad was urging the Muslims to fight the pagans. He said, 'We shall fight on your right and on your left and in front of you and behind you.' I saw the face of the Prophet getting bright with happiness, for that saying delighted him."    

Bukhari:V5B59N290 "The believers who did not join the Ghazwa [Islamic raid or invasion] and those who fought are not equal in reward."    

Qur'an:2:193 "Fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief) and religion is only for Allah. But if they cease/desist, let there be no hostility except against infidel disbelievers."    

Qur'an:2:217 "They question you concerning fighting in the sacred month. Say: 'Fighting therein is a grave (matter); but to prevent access to Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, to expel its members, and polytheism are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they make you renegades from your religion. If any of you turn back and die in unbelief, your works will be lost and you will go to Hell. Surely those who believe and leave their homes to fight in Allah's Cause have the hope of Allah's mercy."    

Qur'an:2:244 "Fight in Allah's Cause, and know that Allah hears and knows all."    

Qur'an:2:246 "He said: 'Would you refrain from fighting if fighting were prescribed for you?' They said: 'How could we refuse to fight in Allah's Cause?'"
   
Ishaq:280 "The Apostle prepared for war in pursuance of Allah's command to fight his enemies and to fight the infidels who Allah commanded him to fight."
   
Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."    

Bukhari:V4B52N61 "Allah's Apostle! We were absent from the first battle you fought against the pagans. If Allah gives us a chance to do battle, no doubt, He will see how bravely we fight."    

Ishaq:398 "Ask them for their help. Thereby make the religion of Islam agreeable to them. And when you are resolved in the matter of religion concerning fighting your enemy you will have the advantage."    

Qur'an:3:146 "How many prophets fought in Allah's Cause? With them (fought) myriads of godly men who were slain. They never lost heart if they met with disaster in Allah's Cause, nor did they weaken nor give in. Allah loves those who are firm and steadfast [warriors]."    

Ishaq:393 "How many prophets has death in battle befallen and how many multitudes with him? They did not show weakness toward their enemies and were not humiliated when they suffered in the fight for Allah and their religion. That is steadfastness. Allah loves the steadfast."
   
Qur'an:3:153 "Behold! You ran off precipitately, climbing up the high hill without even casting a side glance at anyone, while the Messenger in your rear is calling you from your rear, urging you to fight. Allah gave you one distress after another by way of requital, to teach you not to grieve for the booty that had escaped you and for (the ill) that had befallen you."    

Qur'an:3:154 "Say: 'Even if you had remained in your houses, those ordained to be slaughtered would have gone forth to the places where they were to slain."
   
Ishaq:440 "Helped by the Holy Spirit we smited Muhammad's foes. The Apostle sent a message to them with a sharp cutting sword."    

Ishaq:470 "We attacked them fully armed, swords in hand, cutting through heads and skulls."    

Qur'an:61:4 "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His Cause."    

Qur'an:61:11 "Believers, shall I lead you to a bargain or trade that will save you from a painful torment? That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive and fight in Allah's Cause with your property and your lives: That will be best for you!" Qur'an 61:12 "He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens under which rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Eden: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. And another (favor) which you love: help from Allah for a speedy victory over your enemies."
   
Qur'an:8:5 "Your Lord ordered you out of your homes to fight for the true cause, even though some Muslims disliked it, and were averse (to fighting)."
   
Qur'an:24:53 "They swear their strongest oaths saying that if only you would command them. They would leave their homes (and go forth fighting in Allah's Cause). Say: 'Swear not; Obedience is (more) reasonable.'"    

Qur'an:4:74 "Let those who fight in Allah's Cause sell this world's life for the hereafter. To him who fights in Allah's Cause, whether he is slain or victorious, We shall give him a reward."    

Qur'an:4:75 "What reason have you that you should not fight in Allah's Cause?" [Another translation says:] "What is wrong with you that you do not fight for Allah?"    
Qur'an:4:76 "Those who believe fight in the Cause of Allah."
 
Qur'an:4:77 "Have you not seen those to whom it was said: Withhold from fighting, perform the prayer and pay the zakat. But when orders for fighting were issued, a party of them feared men as they ought to have feared Allah. They say: 'Our Lord, why have You ordained fighting for us, why have You made war compulsory?'"
   
Qur'an:4:78 "Wherever you are, death will find you, even if you are in towers strong and high! So what is wrong with these people, that they fail to understand these simple words?"    

Qur'an:4:84 "Then fight (Muhammad) in Allah's Cause. Incite the believers to fight with you."
   
Qur'an:4:94 "Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allah's Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you: 'You are not a believer!' Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils and booty."    

Qur'an:4:95 "Not equal are believers who sit home and receive no hurt and those who fight in Allah's Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has granted a grade higher to those who fight with their possessions and bodies to those who sit home. Those who fight He has distinguished with a special reward."
   
Qur'an:4:100 "He who leaves his home in Allah's Cause finds abundant resources and many a refuge. Should he die as a refugee for Allah and His Messenger His reward becomes due and sure with Allah. When you travel through the earth there is no blame on you if you curtail your worship for fear unbelievers may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are your enemy."    

Qur'an:4:102 "When you (Prophet) lead them in prayer, let some stand with you, taking their arms with them. When they finish their prostrations, let them take positions in the rear. And let others who have not yet prayed come - taking all precaution, and bearing arms. The Infidels wish, if you were negligent of your arms, to assault you in a rush. But there is no blame on you if you put away your arms because of the inconvenience of rain or because you are ill; but take precaution. For the Unbelieving Infidels Allah hath prepared a humiliating punishment."
   
Qur'an:4:104 "And do not relent in pursuing the enemy."
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Basseti: 7:11pm On Apr 24, 2011
^^^^^

Not to derail the thread, but I have always wanted a muslim to respond to the above sayings in Holy Koran (and some other sayings that encourages jihadist movements) with respect to the violence rightly or wrongly associated with Islam. We all hear the mantra "that Islam is a religion of peace" but its kinda hard to believe that when u see passages like this in the koran , especially in the light of people carrying out babaric acts in the name of Allah.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by kevd2: 7:19pm On Apr 24, 2011
This psot is designed by sum muslim/northerner to make appease Christians because we are to sympathetic.

every year they say the same thing and the slaughter still continues are christians /southerners this gullible.

TALK IS CHEAP.ITS NOT WHAT YOU SAY ITS WHAT YOU DO.


Stop being weak and stupid.They will continue this slaughter no matter what they say.

START FIGHTING FOR THE DISSOLUTION OF NIGERIA NOW.ARM YOURSELVES

GENERAL MAO SAID' POWER IS OBTAINED THROUGH THE BARREL OF THE GUN


YOU CAN CALL GOD ALL YOU WANT BUT IF YOU DONT OPEN YOUR EYES AND FIGHT THIS MADNESS WILL CONTINUE
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Nobody: 7:25pm On Apr 24, 2011
Qur'an:3:154 "Say: 'Even if you had remained in your houses, those ordained to be slaughtered would have gone forth to the places where they were to slain."

A prophet of God actualy used the word slaughtered?
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by tyson55(m): 7:29pm On Apr 24, 2011
@vicjustice - who permitted you to post this garbage here? On the side note; has anyone read a book by Salman Rushedi called the Satanic verses?
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by tyson55(m): 7:35pm On Apr 24, 2011
@kev-d - Thank u God bless you. You couldn't have said it better. Our people are so gullible. Smh.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by JomoGbomo2(m): 7:44pm On Apr 24, 2011
@dem_people

Regarding your questions above, I will try to answer them just in the same sequence it was posted.

1. The reason is simple, every other religion/belief has been diluted with the conventional life style (a.k.a civilization), Islam is the only way of life that has tried and still trying to keep its pristine nature. As you have rightly noted the Islamic ruling of someone denouncing his faith is hard punishment and sometimes death, Sincerely, I can't remember anywhere in the Quran where the law said the person should be killed but[b] i know the rules and laws in the Quran are meant for an Islamic state[/b] and for our personal lives. Another part of the Quran actually categorically say "There is no compulsion in religion" which means we can do ours and you can do yours.  The question is who are we (muslims) that we want to go against the Quran teachings, if the Quran say you should do something and then you have to do it as long as you are a muslim.

2. There are no churches in Saudi Arabia and that simply because of their laws, i can't tell you what to allow in your own house, but remember there are no mosques too in the vatican city, it is also a country. (There are mosques in Rome but not the vatican)

3. Concerning the marriage, The Islamic law is that a female Muslim is discouraged from marrying outside the religion, but the male is permitted to marry a Christan or Jew, this is also frowned at but allowed legally. This is the ruling and we are bound to abide by it.

4. We are not obliged to fight for God, but we are commanded to go against tyranny, oppressors and all forms of evils. in the Quran, there was a particular set of people that wanted to demolish mecca but God himself fought them and not the people. Most muslims today try to fight for God because of martydom, i personally believe a lot of them got it wrong (it is against the teaching os islam to kill innocent/civillians of any community irrespective of the rationale). Also the supposedly muslim leaders today are the tyrant and oppressors but thats not the teaching.
A short story here, Ali (one of the Prophet disciples) was fighting during war, with another man, after he has disarmed the man and was on him,  the man spat on him. he stood up and told the man he couldn't kill him because if he had done so, it would have been because of the man's spitting on him.

5. Why Martydom, It is part of the teaching of Islam that if someone dies as a martyr, he wont be questioned about  how he spent his live on this earth. so people tend to translate this as a short cut to heaven. I personally think this belief has been turned upside down, because the people the Prophet actually told this are people that are already upright and keep to the teachings of the Quran, these days we see people that hardly say their 5 daily prayers but want the short cut to heaven, so they do anything any sweet tongue (so-called) imam tell them to do.


The truth is that today:

1. Islam is totally different from muslims, but the unfortunate thing is that Islam will continue to be judged by the actions of muslims.
2. Islam can't be practice without knowledge, today's muslims don't even know the basics of their religion.
3. Islam is against Monarchical system but all supposedly islamis states are using the system.
4. Islam is the only way of life that is struggling to keep its pristine belief just the way it was 1400 years ago, because of this it has gotten all form assaults from the west, it will continue because we believe that God's teaching are not suppose to change with time, we believe that those teachings are still relevant to our present issues and we must continue to folow them.

The challenge is that the Muslims must find a better way handling the situations rather than bombing and violence. I can't see this happening as long as the love for money is in the equation.  

@dem_people lets not digress from this thread we can meet in the religion section to talk more.
 
Regarding what the Hausa's are doing, they are not fighting for God or Islam, they are just another set of ignorant, jobless and uneducated set of youth. product of our visionless leaders and victims of their regional local teachers/society.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Cyborg2011: 7:47pm On Apr 24, 2011
JomoGbomo2:

@dem_people

Regarding your questions above, I will try to answer them just in the same sequence it was posted.

1. The reason is simple, every other religion/belief has been diluted with the conventional life style (a.k.a civilization), Islam is the only way of life that has tried and still trying to keep its pristine nature. As you have rightly noted the Islamic ruling of someone denouncing his faith is hard punishment and sometimes death, Sincerely, I can't remember anywhere in the Quran where the law said the person should be killed but[b] i know the rules and laws in the Quran are meant for an Islamic state[/b] and for our personal lives. Another part of the Quran actually categorically say "There is no compulsion in religion" which means we can do ours and you can do yours.  The question is who are we (muslims) that we want to go against the Quran teachings, if the Quran say you should do something and then you have to do it as long as you are a muslim.

2. There are no churches in Saudi Arabia and that simply because of their laws, i can't tell you what to allow in your own house, but remember there are no mosques too in the vatican city, it is also a country. (There are mosques in Rome but not the vatican)

3. Concerning the marriage, The Islamic law is that a female Muslim is discouraged from marrying outside the religion, but the male is permitted to marry a Christan or Jew, this is also frowned at but allowed legally. This is the ruling and we are bound to abide by it.

4. We are not obliged to fight for God, but we are commanded to go against tyranny, oppressors and all forms of evils. in the Quran, there was a particular set of people that wanted to demolish mecca but God himself fought them and not the people. Most muslims today try to fight for God because of martydom, i personally believe a lot of them got it wrong (it is against the teaching os islam to kill innocent/civillians of any community irrespective of the rationale). Also the supposedly muslim leaders today are the tyrant and oppressors but thats not the teaching.
A short story here, Ali (one of the Prophet disciples) was fighting during war, with another man, after he has disarmed the man and was on him,  the man spat on him. he stood up and told the man he couldn't kill him because if he had done so, it would have been because of the man's spitting on him.

5. Why Martydom, It is part of the teaching of Islam that if someone dies as a martyr, he wont be questioned about  how he spent his live on this earth. so people tend to translate this as a short cut to heaven. I personally think this belief has been turned upside down, because the people the Prophet actually told this are people that are already upright and keep to the teachings of the Quran, these days we see people that hardly say their 5 daily prayers but want the short cut to heaven, so they do anything any sweet tongue (so-called) imam tell them to do.


The truth is that today:

1. Islam is totally different from muslims, but the unfortunate thing is that Islam will continue to be judged by the actions of muslims.
2. Islam can't be practice without knowledge, today's muslims don't even know the basics of their religion.
3. Islam is against Monarchical system but all supposedly islamis states are using the system.
4. Islam is the only way of life that is struggling to keep its pristine belief just the way it was 1400 years ago, because of this it has gotten all form assaults from the west, it will continue because we believe that God's teaching are not suppose to change with time, we believe that those teachings are still relevant to our present issues and we must continue to folow them.

The challenge is that the Muslims must find a better way handling the situations rather than bombing and violence. I can't see this happening as long as the love for money is in the equation.  

@dem_people lets not digress from this thread we can meet in the religion section to talk more.
 
Regarding what the Hausa's are doing, they are not fighting for God or Islam, they are just another set of ignorant, jobless and uneducated set of youth. product of our visionless leaders and victims of their regional local teachers/society.



Jazakallahu Khairan bi Ahsana Minal Jazah,

Well said.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by AjanleKoko: 7:57pm On Apr 24, 2011
This is a good positive story. The Bologi dude is a brave man, and an example to everyone, not just Moslems.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by glorex(m): 7:59pm On Apr 24, 2011
wow, it is a good thing to do because GOD said you should love your neighbor as yourself. so, may GOD bless the Muslim man that did that act.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by prince0(m): 8:04pm On Apr 24, 2011
The almagamation of the northern and southern protectorates in 1914 by lord luggard is the cause of all these problems confronting us. the only solution is to revert to the way it was before 1914. to help ur understanding get to read d history of nigeria.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by White007(m): 8:24pm On Apr 24, 2011
Hey @tyson55 i 've heard about the book you talked about "the satanic verses" what is it about? Just being curious.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by hackney(m): 8:26pm On Apr 24, 2011
The man's commendable action was based on the kind of person he is and not on religion.
The same applies to the ones that riot and kill.
(it actually applies to everything )

God will bless him,wherever he comes from.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by dempeople(m): 8:27pm On Apr 24, 2011
JomoGbomo2:

@dem_people

Regarding your questions above, I will try to answer them just in the same sequence it was posted.

1. The reason is simple, every other religion/belief has been diluted with the conventional life style (a.k.a civilization), Islam is the only way of life that has tried and still trying to keep its pristine nature. As you have rightly noted the Islamic ruling of someone denouncing his faith is hard punishment and sometimes death, Sincerely, I can't remember anywhere in the Quran where the law said the person should be killed but[b] i know the rules and laws in the Quran are meant for an Islamic state[/b] and for our personal lives. Another part of the Quran actually categorically say "There is no compulsion in religion" which means we can do ours and you can do yours.  The question is who are we (muslims) that we want to go against the Quran teachings, if the Quran say you should do something and then you have to do it as long as you are a muslim.

2. There are no churches in Saudi Arabia and that simply because of their laws, i can't tell you what to allow in your own house, but remember there are no mosques too in the vatican city, it is also a country. (There are mosques in Rome but not the vatican)

3. Concerning the marriage, The Islamic law is that a female Muslim is discouraged from marrying outside the religion, but the male is permitted to marry a Christan or Jew, this is also frowned at but allowed legally. This is the ruling and we are bound to abide by it.

4. We are not obliged to fight for God, but we are commanded to go against tyranny, oppressors and all forms of evils. in the Quran, there was a particular set of people that wanted to demolish mecca but God himself fought them and not the people. Most muslims today try to fight for God because of martydom, i personally believe a lot of them got it wrong (it is against the teaching os islam to kill innocent/civillians of any community irrespective of the rationale). Also the supposedly muslim leaders today are the tyrant and oppressors but thats not the teaching.
A short story here, Ali (one of the Prophet disciples) was fighting during war, with another man, after he has disarmed the man and was on him,  the man spat on him. he stood up and told the man he couldn't kill him because if he had done so, it would have been because of the man's spitting on him.

5. Why Martydom, It is part of the teaching of Islam that if someone dies as a martyr, he wont be questioned about  how he spent his live on this earth. so people tend to translate this as a short cut to heaven. I personally think this belief has been turned upside down, because the people the Prophet actually told this are people that are already upright and keep to the teachings of the Quran, these days we see people that hardly say their 5 daily prayers but want the short cut to heaven, so they do anything any sweet tongue (so-called) imam tell them to do.


The truth is that today:

1. Islam is totally different from muslims, but the unfortunate thing is that Islam will continue to be judged by the actions of muslims.
2. Islam can't be practice without knowledge, today's muslims don't even know the basics of their religion.
3. Islam is against Monarchical system but all supposedly islamis states are using the system.
4. Islam is the only way of life that is struggling to keep its pristine belief just the way it was 1400 years ago, because of this it has gotten all form assaults from the west, it will continue because we believe that God's teaching are not suppose to change with time, we believe that those teachings are still relevant to our present issues and we must continue to folow them.

The challenge is that the Muslims must find a better way handling the situations rather than bombing and violence. I can't see this happening as long as the love for money is in the equation.  

@dem_people lets not digress from this thread we can meet in the religion section to talk more.
 
Regarding what the Hausa's are doing, they are not fighting for God or Islam, they are just another set of ignorant, jobless and uneducated set of youth. product of our visionless leaders and victims of their regional local teachers/society.



First of all, I must sincerely commend you for the calm attitude in which you responded to me. It shows you're a sort of modern-day progressive muslim with whom I can reason with without you enraging yourself to the extent of busting through my laptop screen to give me a head butt.

I don't rightly agree with all you've said though I admire the way you presented your points. I'll be in the religious section from time to time but its not quite the sort of place I hang out. My homebase is the politics section.

Kudos for taking time to explain your points.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Cyborg2011: 8:37pm On Apr 24, 2011
Untold Story.

For some of you who really have close relatives in Kaduna, and whom will not hide things to you, please ask them about the untold and never reported massacre killing of Muslims in Southern Kaduna in the recent crisis.

They fact is that over 500 Muslims have been killed in those towns, they also killed large number of passengers coming back from the south trying to pass through kaduna.

Last I heard from bbc, one muslim described that he witnessed the burial of over 200 Muslims in a mass grave (mostly passengers and Muslims living Christian cities around southern kaduna.

Its pity, mind you muslims heard this all over the North, it really happened, it was quite unfortunate, I personally do not and will never support killing of innocent people be it Christians or Muslims, but found this forum quite disappointing, all you can read from this forum is lies and exaggerated stories everywhere, bashing and abusive and some time misquoting religious verses to support ones selfish interest, and believe me some of these words somebody can never say it on you face to face.

The fact is that, so much people have been killed in the north during this crisis, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, if you can get all the number of the victims, the majority are Muslims, which I know some of the ignorant here in Nairaland would find it difficult to believe simple because they either hate Muslims 200%, or are not even living in Nigeria, or they simply hate anything Islam, hausa/fulani etc.

Hoping to find some honest people around southern kaduna who can really tell you how they slaughter  Muslim womens and children and throw them into the well.

Many eye witness have confirmed this, so as long as Nigeria will be one, the killing from both side must be stop, else as some suggest it will be better to split it leaving south with Americans who will definitely install a puppet president or else instigate tribal war, infact I proved to the world they can stop at nothing when it comes to oil.

As some of you might know, real northerners wouldn't mind splitting simply because they are presently surviving without benefiting from it, all we know is that some few elites/politicians from north benefits from the budget with some few project for the states here and there.

Countless countries are surviving without oil simply importing it to their country, which I believe the north can afford that.

Nevertheless, Muslims in the north will never forget the history of massacres of Muslims in: Zangon Kataf, Kafanchan, Jos etc.

The worse case scenario is that if the politicians will keep on telling people lies, and the youth will never get educated, wandering around without anything to do, expect more of these to come, that's the fact, because majority of these un-educated youths in the north have reached the level of not even ready to listen to anybody, I repeat anybody, whoever tell you there is a single body controlling these youths, he is deceiving you and it is a lie, they abuse, burn down houses of imams and malams supporting pdp, (ask people in kaduna to confirm), emirs's place (kano), many were killed while in the process of burning down the emir of Zaria's place, we already know some key pdp politicians who will never ever try to visit their home own or their community may be except with extreme security cover.

All I know is that some of these uncontrolled youths use this opportunity of course to cause mayhem brutal killing of innocent Christians, corpers, and burn churches, its quite unfortunate, there is no a single honest educated and God fearing Northerner supporting this, am not saying you have to be believe me on this, if you don't to hell with you, i don't care, I just have to tell the facts on the ground being a person who really know how these youth think based on what is on the ground and what is going on in the Northern Nigerian politics.

Cheers.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by lastpage: 8:40pm On Apr 24, 2011
Its worth CELEBRATING!
One single GOOD MAN, in the midst of a mindless, blood-orgy!

BTW: Does anyone agree that based on all the quoted Surah of the Quaran(where-in all it prescribes is violent murder), the Book itself needs and deserve a very WIDE REFORM?

You cant be "cramming all that wicked violence against Strangers" into the head of impressionable young minds (Almanjeris) and expect them to grow up into decent adults?

GARBAGE-IN, GARBAGE-OUT, right?

Still in a daze, Walahi!
And all some really idiotic Muslims can do is come here to "defend" these insanity!
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by tyson55(m): 8:45pm On Apr 24, 2011
@white007 - just to water down your curiosity about the book "the satanic verses" among other things, it consist of a frame narrative using elements of magical realism, interlaced with a series of sub-plots that are narrated as dream visions experienced by one of the protagonists. In which the prophet mohamed first proclaims a revelation in favor of the old polytheistic deities, but later renounces this as an error induced by satan. The book also talks about 2 opponents of the messenger: a demonic heathen priestess, and an irreverent skeptic and satirical poet, Baal. But i recomend you read the book to understand it better.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Limaoscar: 8:57pm On Apr 24, 2011
There is a real Muslim.




Yeah rite! sad angry

This was one individual whom God has used as an Angel of compassion. May the Lord cover him and His too in Jesus name, AMEN!!
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Limaoscar: 8:59pm On Apr 24, 2011
Bologi acted inspite of Islam.


Spot on. Top quality post!
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Sarahluv(f): 9:02pm On Apr 24, 2011
Good. The man said he turned out the way he did because he had parents to guide him. Almajiris up North are rejected children with no parental guidance. They are actually taught how to murder and cause mayhem. They are indoctrinated from their tender age. Control the way parents dump their children up north, and you would have started solving the problem. Then we would have more people like this wonderful muslim man.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Dsense(m): 9:13pm On Apr 24, 2011
@Topic,
Yep.This is the king of man we need/expect in the society. . . .A man of honor!
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by geosegun(m): 9:15pm On Apr 24, 2011
What a brave man. He will be rewarded by God and his soul save from Hell fire.
The name Bologi is Nupe(Tapa) not Hausas.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by OAM4J: 9:24pm On Apr 24, 2011
Interesting story, may God bless Balogi.
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by aljharem(m): 9:39pm On Apr 24, 2011
Cyborg2011:

Untold Story.

For some of you who really have close relatives in Kaduna, and whom will not hide things to you, please ask them about the untold and never reported massacre killing of Muslims in Southern Kaduna in the recent crisis.

They fact is that over 500 Muslims have been killed in those towns, they also killed large number of passengers coming back from the south trying to pass through kaduna.

Last I heard from bbc, one muslim described that he witnessed the burial of over 200 Muslims in a mass grave (mostly passengers and Muslims living Christian cities around southern kaduna.

Its pity, mind you muslims heard this all over the North, it really happened, it was quite unfortunate, I personally do not and will never support killing of innocent people be it Christians or Muslims, but found this forum quite disappointing, all you can read from this forum is lies and exaggerated stories everywhere, bashing and abusive and some time misquoting religious verses to support ones selfish interest, and believe me some of these words somebody can never say it on you face to face.

The fact is that, so much people have been killed in the north during this crisis, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, if you can get all the number of the victims, the majority are Muslims, which I know some of the ignorant here in Nairaland would find it difficult to believe simple because they either hate Muslims 200%, or are not even living in Nigeria, or they simply hate anything Islam, hausa/fulani etc.

Hoping to find some honest people around southern kaduna who can really tell you how they slaughter  Muslim womens and children and throw them into the well.

Many eye witness have confirmed this, so as long as Nigeria will be one, the killing from both side must be stop, else as some suggest it will be better to split it leaving south with Americans who will definitely install a puppet president or else instigate tribal war, infact I proved to the world they can stop at nothing when it comes to oil.

As some of you might know, real northerners wouldn't mind splitting simply because they are presently surviving without benefiting from it, all we know is that some few elites/politicians from north benefits from the budget with some few project for the states here and there.

Countless countries are surviving without oil simply importing it to their country, which I believe the north can afford that.

Nevertheless, Muslims in the north will never forget the history of massacres of Muslims in: Zangon Kataf, Kafanchan, Jos etc.

The worse case scenario is that if the politicians will keep on telling people lies, and the youth will never get educated, wandering around without anything to do, expect more of these to come, that's the fact, because majority of these un-educated youths in the north have reached the level of not even ready to listen to anybody, I repeat anybody, whoever tell you there is a single body controlling these youths, he is deceiving you and it is a lie, they abuse, burn down houses of imams and malams supporting pdp, (ask people in kaduna to confirm), emirs's place (kano), many were killed while in the process of burning down the emir of Zaria's place, we already know some key pdp politicians who will never ever try to visit their home own or their community may be except with extreme security cover.

All I know is that some of these uncontrolled youths use this opportunity of course to cause mayhem brutal killing of innocent Christians, corpers, and burn churches, its quite unfortunate, there is no a single honest educated and God fearing Northerner supporting this, am not saying you have to be believe me on this, if you don't to hell with you, i don't care, I just have to tell the facts on the ground being a person who really know how these youth think based on what is on the ground and what is going on in the Northern Nigerian politics.

Cheers.

well said my brother
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by dempeople(m): 9:52pm On Apr 24, 2011
Dayokanu

I am baffled by the way some people reason.

The longest ruling presidents in Nigeria are from the SW, NC

OBJ - 11yrs (SW)

Gowon- 9yrs (NC)

IBB - 8yrs (NC)

The same NC you are portraying as one of the victims has rules Nigeria the longest for 18yrs while the NE you are lampooning has only ruled for 6yrs of Balewa


Just cos we have opposing views doesn't mean I'm talking trash. After a paradigm shift in voting patterns, we're now talking about a new type of electioneering in 9ja.

Your mind is stalk in Old Nigerian Voting Patterns. Let talk about the new dawn. Good morning. cool
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by CapnCrunch: 10:01pm On Apr 24, 2011
I applaud this Gentleman for his bravery
Re: A Muslim Who Risk All To Save His Xtian Neighbours by Thatdave(m): 10:12pm On Apr 24, 2011
and everyone is commending a virtual man (bologi) . And no one questioned the veracity of the story. AND everyone never recalled that according to the confirmed story published on vanguard website the pastor was beaten to koma then woke up in a hospital. which looks more real. than this framed up bologi story where bologi met the pastor comming back down the street by himself alone and a bandagd hand! u guys just have to rewrite the koran and not to frame up heroic stories. Jesus already rewrote ours. Thats why we cant get permision frm the bible to maim u back and burn ur houser.

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